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Time to move on to the next thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/460943-2014-2015-football-thread
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 20:16:28
October 06 2013 19:51 GMT
#6021
Ah, Football Manager... in 2011 version, I made it to Serie A in 6 seasons with C2 team L'Aquila.

I remember it because in 2014 World Cup Final, Belarus beat Croatia 2-0.
Also, it Euro 2012 final, Switzerland edged out Ireland 3-2.

And Barcelona eventually signed Giorgio Chiellini for 51 millions £. Good times...

EDIT: WTF LOL, Giovinco scores, then ball hits the net and leaves it! Fortunately, the goal stands.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
October 06 2013 22:05 GMT
#6022
Due to David Villa's injury, Michu has been called up to replace him for Spain. : D
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
3point14
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany890 Posts
October 06 2013 22:11 GMT
#6023
On October 07 2013 02:47 Pads wrote:
FM14 coming out 31st of this month, think I've gotten my money's worth out of 13..
[image loading]

Can't wait


im kinda interested in playing a football manager. does it have good game mechanics or is it more a feelgood game where decisions dont matter so much?
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
October 07 2013 02:08 GMT
#6024
On October 07 2013 07:11 3point14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 02:47 Pads wrote:
FM14 coming out 31st of this month, think I've gotten my money's worth out of 13..
[image loading]

Can't wait


im kinda interested in playing a football manager. does it have good game mechanics or is it more a feelgood game where decisions dont matter so much?


Tactics matter a lot, i personally don't think it's hard to make decent to good tactics but don't necessarily expect to destroy everything by picking Barca/Bayern/Man U or City etc.

Other people can tell you more if you're really interested but it's by no means a shallow game at all.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
October 07 2013 02:09 GMT
#6025
Vancouver vs Portland was the game of the year in MLS. What an incredible second half. Balls out for 45 minutes with the playoffs, Cascadia Cup on the line. Camillo was insane, Reo Coker was insane, Rickets was insane. Bonkers.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 03:03:46
October 07 2013 02:40 GMT
#6026
On October 07 2013 11:08 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 07:11 3point14 wrote:
On October 07 2013 02:47 Pads wrote:
FM14 coming out 31st of this month, think I've gotten my money's worth out of 13..
[image loading]

Can't wait


im kinda interested in playing a football manager. does it have good game mechanics or is it more a feelgood game where decisions dont matter so much?


Tactics matter a lot, i personally don't think it's hard to make decent to good tactics but don't necessarily expect to destroy everything by picking Barca/Bayern/Man U or City etc.

Other people can tell you more if you're really interested but it's by no means a shallow game at all.


And if you preorder it, you get access to the beta, meaning that you can play the game two weeks early!

Don't know if I want to get FM14 yet though, because I'm still having fun with a long term save in FM13.

On October 07 2013 11:09 tree.hugger wrote:
Vancouver vs Portland was the game of the year in MLS. What an incredible second half. Balls out for 45 minutes with the playoffs, Cascadia Cup on the line. Camillo was insane, Reo Coker was insane, Rickets was insane. Bonkers.


You weren't kidding.

@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 03:56:45
October 07 2013 03:54 GMT
#6027
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


NYRB clinch playoff spot:

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
October 07 2013 07:22 GMT
#6028
Oh you guys need to see this:

http://vimeo.com/76069786#

This is almost perfect football
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 07 2013 07:45 GMT
#6029
On October 07 2013 11:09 tree.hugger wrote:
Vancouver vs Portland was the game of the year in MLS. What an incredible second half. Balls out for 45 minutes with the playoffs, Cascadia Cup on the line. Camillo was insane, Reo Coker was insane, Rickets was insane. Bonkers.


Nice! My mate from the office went to Canada on Wednesday and booked some tickets online to go to that MLS game! I told him the timbers have been a pretty good team this year and have alot of good fans.
Im glad he has gone to watch a good game
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
October 07 2013 08:27 GMT
#6030
On October 07 2013 16:22 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Oh you guys need to see this:

http://vimeo.com/76069786#

This is almost perfect football


Hehe, Barca#2.

Wonder how long it takes before certain people are gonna call it boring.
Moderator
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 08:39:46
October 07 2013 08:34 GMT
#6031
I'm guessing if its a vimeo link its that counterpress guy from twitter...

edit: oh its not, why what you know is playing over that clip is beyond me though..

honestly when I saw that stretch during the game the most impressive part was Lahms tackle.

One of if not the best judge of a tackle in the game in the past 6-7 years tbh..
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
October 07 2013 08:48 GMT
#6032
On October 07 2013 17:27 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 16:22 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Oh you guys need to see this:

http://vimeo.com/76069786#

This is almost perfect football


Hehe, Barca#2.

Wonder how long it takes before certain people are gonna call it boring.

They just need to win one more CL and people are going to get mad because they win everything
Imo Bayern players aren't as technically gifted as the Barça players, so this tiki-taka is a bit less fluid, but it's still very very impressive... And they also have qualities that Barça players don't have/don't have anymore (physical aspect, more impact with Ribery/Robben, size for headers, longshots...) , so it's very scary :D
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 07 2013 08:52 GMT
#6033
It's interesting that Barcelona are playing "less" passes now though. If you read Guillem Ballague interviews or reports, he is suggesting that Barcelona are being told to play less passes under the new manager.
Be interesting like Twisted says before it becomes a point where it could be deemed "pointless" passing. Of course everyone to their own, but when you start drawing games and not winning questions start to be asked, even if you dominate thus game and fail to win (ala vs Bayer Leverkusen i believe?)
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 07 2013 08:56 GMT
#6034
Yes the Barça style is changing a bit, but it's by choice not because of bad results. Hell this is the best Liga start by Barça ever.

Passing the opponent to death must be a weapon of choice, not a forced strategy for every game. It's pretty good when ahead to force the turtling opponent to press further and open spaces behind them, to exploit it with a long pass + fast player. Just check some of the last goals to see it :D

Revolutionist fan
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
October 07 2013 09:10 GMT
#6035
On October 07 2013 17:56 Salteador Neo wrote:
Yes the Barça style is changing a bit, but it's by choice not because of bad results. Hell this is the best Liga start by Barça ever.

Passing the opponent to death must be a weapon of choice, not a forced strategy for every game. It's pretty good when ahead to force the turtling opponent to press further and open spaces behind them, to exploit it with a long pass + fast player. Just check some of the last goals to see it :D



Yea I think the bottom line is no matter how good you are being one dimensional has its limitations. And to be honest people can criticize and say stuff like "theyve been figured out now" and so on but lets be honest, There was never anything to figure out. Everyone knew what they needed to do to beat Barcelona they just couldnt execute effectively enough till they had some rungs at it. Additionally not every team has the ability to manage that period.

This Munich team hasnt lost anything with Guardiola, they still play with power and pace like they used to but now they have more weapons like that clip up there.

Very scary team tbh..
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4015 Posts
October 07 2013 09:19 GMT
#6036
It's already boring to me now...passing it around midfield while there is no pressure from City isn't an impressive feat imo.
City will immediately react whenever the ball goes forward, which you can see the 2 times they actually do that. Bayern doesn't have the tika-taka skill of Barça, so going through the center won't work, so they rely on (short) crosses. I think a lot of their depth and speed is lost when they play this way. You can see at 2:30 in that video that there's a lot more space when they attack from the back instead of pressing first. And I'm not surprised teams are countering this by putting a few strong/big CB's at the back who kick the ball up the field and hope for a counterattack.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 09:44:37
October 07 2013 09:43 GMT
#6037
On October 07 2013 17:27 Twisted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 16:22 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Oh you guys need to see this:

http://vimeo.com/76069786#

This is almost perfect football


Hehe, Barca#2.

Wonder how long it takes before certain people are gonna call it boring.


That's some powerful stuff. God damn, Man City were raped. When they attack they look way better than Barca too, much more focused and incisive. The fact that Bayern take so many shots and threaten so often makes watching them play much more fun than watching Barcelona.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
October 07 2013 09:44 GMT
#6038
On October 07 2013 18:19 aseq wrote:
It's already boring to me now...passing it around midfield while there is no pressure from City isn't an impressive feat imo.
City will immediately react whenever the ball goes forward, which you can see the 2 times they actually do that. Bayern doesn't have the tika-taka skill of Barça, so going through the center won't work, so they rely on (short) crosses. I think a lot of their depth and speed is lost when they play this way. You can see at 2:30 in that video that there's a lot more space when they attack from the back instead of pressing first. And I'm not surprised teams are countering this by putting a few strong/big CB's at the back who kick the ball up the field and hope for a counterattack.

This. Bayern got to three consecutive Champions League finals playing different (better) football than this, why fix what isn't broken? The only thing they get by playing this way is pass statistic for bandwagoners to circle-jerk over, just hope it doesn't spread to other German clubs.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
October 07 2013 09:49 GMT
#6039
See the way Arsenal do it to me is the right way. They pass it so fast when they are on it and its impossible to play against, but they never have the 70+% possession. The way Barca used to do it (can't speak for this season as i have only watched about 20minutes of them) they just always played at the same pace, never speeding the ball up, just retaining possession and waiting for the opponent to make a gap for a through ball or a quick 1-2. All be it that is genius and hard work, watching Arsenal pass the ball 1 touch and very quick premier league pace is the best for it. I guess the closet i have seen to that is the way Dortmund play and i guess Bayern too. Get the ball, pass it around but then inject the pace and within 4-5 good 1 touch passes they are inside the box or on the edge of it having a shot. Much more flair about that for me.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
October 07 2013 09:50 GMT
#6040
On October 07 2013 11:40 Ferrose wrote:

You weren't kidding.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlwmerKFgAU


That's a sensational goal.
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