• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:32
CET 05:32
KST 13:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.173Evil Geniuses - shutting down19ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League91
StarCraft 2
General
Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
2026 KungFu Cup Announcement RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Do we even care about balance? Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. SCHNAIL now supports Remastered BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [BSL23] RO24 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9254 users

NBA Offseason 2013 - Page 82

Forum Index > Sports
Post a Reply
Prev 1 80 81 82 83 84 90 Next
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 04 2013 15:43 GMT
#1621
Pistons held a Fan Photoshoot Day where lucky fans off the street could put on a uniform and pretend to be a Piston for an afternoon.

[image loading]


Oh wait no, that's our backup center.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 16:03:29
October 04 2013 16:03 GMT
#1622
well on the positive side, more minutes for monroe!
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 04 2013 16:44 GMT
#1623
On October 04 2013 20:09 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
I actually think there haven't been as many real contenders as this year in a long time. I could see a lot of teams making it to the finals.

Yeah it's cause this offseason a lot of mid-tier teams decided to full out tank rather than compete, and many lower tier teams decided not to improve. Thinking Celtics and 6ers in particular.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
October 05 2013 06:05 GMT
#1624
On October 04 2013 19:01 Doctor Who wrote:
Bullshit! Houston has the same problems the Clippers have. Houston can make it into the Top5 in the west, but thats the end. I doubt they will win a playoff series.
The championship this year is between Indiana and the Heat. OKC and the Spurs just don't have it anymore.


What problems do the Rockets share with the Clippers? Very generally I guess you could say both teams need to improve their defense and integrate new player(s), but that's oversimplifying it. The Rockets are looking to make the jump from bottom seed to championship contender on the back of an Allstar Center who is trying to bounce back from a debilitating back injury, who may or may not mess with the great offense they had last season. The Clippers are looking to make the jump from regular season elite to championship contender based on a new coach (and thus entirely new system on offense and defense) and improved perimeter shooting, while having issues with frontcourt depth and uncertainty as to whether their starting Center can anchor a good defense. Seems pretty different to me.

I agree that OKC took a significant step back by losing KMart and now having to rely on Jackson and Lamb to step up in his place, and the injury to Westbrook only makes things more cloudy for them. I don't see why the Spurs should be considered any less dangerous this season as last season. Any decline in Duncan and Manu will arguably be mitigated by the continued development and improvement of Kawhi, Green, and Splitter.

The Pacers still need to see continued improvement from George and Stephenson, Hibbert to build on last season, and for the new bench to play significantly better than last season's. I think there's a good chance that these things happen, but there are no guarantees. The Heat will have key players another year older and past their primes (i.e. Wade, Battier, Ray), which may result in declines in production and more injuries. It also remains to be seen if their offseason acquisitions (Oden and Beasley) will be able to contribute anything. Beyond the Pacers and Heat, the Bulls and Nets are likely to be significantly better this season and could pose a serious challenge if they can stay healthy.
Moderator
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
October 05 2013 06:09 GMT
#1625
On October 04 2013 21:00 Doctor Who wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2013 19:30 Argoth. wrote:
Looks like Kobe could miss the start of the season. Just headed to Germany for knee treatment.


Obviously he won't make it until December. If I were him I would not play this year at all. Even with Kobe at 100% they won't make the playoffs.


Reports are that the trip to Germany was a planned part of his recovery that will only help him get healthy faster. While I have my doubts about Kobe coming back within the first two months of the season, I don't think anyone considers it "obvious" considering this is Kobe and he'll be itching to come back before December just to prove he can.

I think the Lakers have a shot at the playoffs if Kobe comes back 100% and some other things go right (Nash and Pau avoid significant injury, the role players perform their roles, and everyone buys into D'Antoni's system). However, I agree in that I would prefer that Kobe simply sit the season out (or at least most of it) and have the Lakers be a fun, up-and-down team who loses a bunch of games to get a nice draft pick for next year. This season is lost anyway because no one cares about anything but getting back to contender status.
Moderator
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 05 2013 06:40 GMT
#1626
While I agree that the prospect of some of these teams is exciting, I don't think it's as wide open as that. The top 4 teams last year were OKC, SA, Grizz and LAC. OKC got worse and Grizz seem to have topped out. LAC got 'better' vis a vis coaching but I don't think that will fully manifest itself this year. I could easily see them making the WCF but I don't think they would win. Houston and GSW certainly should improve, but I don't think they were top half to begin with so while they may be able to bust into the top half (still a tall order), I don't think they are that the level just yet. That's what I meant by it seems like everyone moved towards the middle. So, yes, it might be competitive, but has the number of teams that can challenge the Spurs, assuming they keep the momentum going, gone up or down? I think it's gone down, but of course we didn't know how good the Spurs were going to be until the playoffs.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
October 05 2013 12:52 GMT
#1627
Is Rose playing pre-season tonight vs Indy?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-05 13:02:04
October 05 2013 13:01 GMT
#1628
The number of teams that can challenge the spurs have definitely gone up. There was basically only OKC and the Spurs in the west last year and then OKC lost Westbrook. I never thought the Clippers or Grizzlies were any threat for the west or the title. Some could have hoped for the Grizzlies but the Clippers weren't even close. I think a lot of teams can win the west this year though.

Don't agree with your Clippers assesment this year. They got waaay better. Having Dudley, Reddick, Barnes and Crawford in the backcourt / on the wings is pretty damn good. Mullens and Jamison to back-up Griffin and add some midrange is decent as well. They have a year more experience and an upgrade from Vinny to Doc is as big as it can get for the coaching position. From worst to possibly best overall coach in the league. His championship experience and the respect he gets from players alone can make a huge difference. I can definitely see them winning the west with Doc.

I also think Houston could possibly beat the Spurs. Probably too early to tell but on paper it's definitely possible. People keep writing off Dwight cuz of one mediocre season with a crippled Lakers roster. This Houston team is way better than what he ever had in Orlando! It might not be this year but If they get it together they can definitely go very far.

GSW could make a splash after that breakout season. They are a very young team with a year more experience for the players and the coach, a healthy Bogut in his contract year and they added freakin Iggy. Their frontcourt is damn good, their backcourt is one of the best in the league. They took the Spurs to 6 games last year. I don't see them getting worse this year. They definitely have a shot if they keep it going.

The Spurs are still the favourites but I can see 3-4 teams that could legitimately dethrone them and some teams that have an outside shot. Health is also an issue for the spurs every year. If they aren't 100% (which is not unlikely) pretty much 8 teams in the west can knock them out.

www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
Doctor Who
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany21 Posts
October 05 2013 13:15 GMT
#1629
I think the Lakers have a shot at the playoffs if Kobe comes back 100%


You need to point out your sarcasm better or people will think you really mean it.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 05 2013 13:31 GMT
#1630
Excited and Nervous for the warriors this season, they will be really great to watch and could do something special, but you know Curry and Bogut could go down at any moment, and they happen to be their 2 most important players.
Clippers to get top seed in the west, but not neccesarily make the finals!
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 05 2013 15:07 GMT
#1631
I can't believe I'm watching a live stream of the Pistons stretching. I think we may have reached the point of too much exposure.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
October 05 2013 17:14 GMT
#1632
Lakers have a shot at making the playoffs imo. Unfortunately. They prob have a better shot without Kobe b/c they can actually run DAntoni's offense, which is good at making mediocre players look good. They just don't play any D. Hopefully they can then shop them around.

And the knee procedure for Kobe is due to his knee issue being a chronic condition, so once his achilles heals up he will also have to get his knee back in shape. Dr. Klapper also said that he's heard Kobe is going to have to strengthen his core and whole body pretty much again to be in basketball shape. He still has a lot of work left just to be able to play...
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
October 05 2013 17:20 GMT
#1633
On October 05 2013 21:52 RowdierBob wrote:
Is Rose playing pre-season tonight vs Indy?

Yep thats what nba.com says.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 05 2013 17:34 GMT
#1634
On October 05 2013 21:52 RowdierBob wrote:
Is Rose playing pre-season tonight vs Indy?

Yeah he is a go. As is Granger, who will be coming off the bench tonight at least.

I've never been so excited for a preseason game.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 05 2013 17:51 GMT
#1635
On October 06 2013 02:20 scaban84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 21:52 RowdierBob wrote:
Is Rose playing pre-season tonight vs Indy?

Yep thats what nba.com says.


ill believe it when i see it
starleague forever
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 05 2013 18:31 GMT
#1636
hahaha
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
October 06 2013 00:13 GMT
#1637
No talk about preseason Rose?
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Devil Trigger
Profile Joined March 2011
United States107 Posts
October 06 2013 00:21 GMT
#1638
To be honest, I'm not happy with what the Spurs done in the offseason. They needed some help on offense off the bench, backup point guard, and someone to guard the basket when Duncan is out. I don't think they accomplish any of that.

In my opinion, Pop should try and make Patty Mills the backup for Parker. Based on his Trail Blazers days, Mills shown more offensive potential than both Corey Joseph and Nando de Colo, but he's worse on defense.

The past two years whenever Duncan went to the bench, I felt the floodgates was opened. Teams would start their run and then Pop would insert Duncan back in to stop the bleeding, but it was too late. Splitter is a good defender in the post, but he's not a shot-blocker.

As for teams that could challenge the Spurs, Golden State,Houston, and Oklahoma would be my top three picks. Clippers has a new coach albeit Doc is better than Vinny, but I have to see how their offense plays out. Also need to see how much Griffin and Jordan improve. I think Grizzles are going to be worse with a new coach. What it comes down to is being able to shoot the ball effectively from the perimeter verse the Spurs.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
October 06 2013 00:31 GMT
#1639
Offense isn't the Clippers problem.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
October 06 2013 00:32 GMT
#1640
Rose doing good. At least still going full speed without fear of being hurt again. The mental part is probably the biggest thing, and no hesitation from him so far.
Woo Jung Ho
Prev 1 80 81 82 83 84 90 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 206
ViBE129
Nina 98
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 2518
ProTech157
Snow 106
Aegong 35
yabsab 17
Force[name] 3
Icarus 1
Dota 2
monkeys_forever826
NeuroSwarm224
League of Legends
Doublelift4274
JimRising 673
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1237
taco 410
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox519
Other Games
summit1g9213
C9.Mang0254
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1092
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 16
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo828
• Rush637
Other Games
• Shiphtur458
Upcoming Events
KCM Race Survival
5h 28m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
6h 28m
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
OSC
17h 28m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 7h
GSL
1d 7h
Epic.LAN
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
[ Show More ]
Yamato Cup
3 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
5 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.