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On July 01 2013 06:10 DystopiaX wrote:
So the Pelicans are interested in signing Iggy. I don't know how close they are to it, if at all, but if they do sign him the Holiday-Gordon-Iggy-Anderson-Davis lineup would be interesting at least.
while this makes my dangly parts rigid, I'm pretty sure other teams can afford to pay Iggy more than the Pels can, considering cap space. Unless the Pelicans trade off Lopez's contract.
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Rockets want all their guys to be able to shoot 3s if possible.
@dude who wants Smith over Howard, wtf are you smoking?
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Bargnani's deal was rejected by the NBA?
WHY DOES THE NBA FIND NEW WAYS TO SCREW THE RAPTORS OVER? WTF...
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On July 01 2013 11:39 DystopiaX wrote:
Rockets want all their guys to be able to shoot 3s if possible.
@dude who wants Smith over Howard, wtf are you smoking?
personal opinion. nothing wrong with that
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well that opinion is wrong
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I wouldn't want either, attitude problems. Unless I had an amazing coach
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On July 01 2013 11:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
I wouldn't want either, attitude problems. Unless I had an amazing coach
not like dwight doesn't have ego issues
On July 01 2013 11:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
well that opinion is wrong
great thanks
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So the Celtics are stuck with some terrible, terrible Nets contracts (Gerald Wallace for 3 more years at 10m per!) and they're trying to rebuild, but Rondo's performance and recovery time are still an unknown. I know Ainge said he's not listening to trades for Rondo, but how else are you going move guys like Wallace, Lee or Humphries? What do the Pistons have to do to get him, and should they?
I know Detroit fans somehow fell in love with Calderon within a month (I think because they haven't seen a real PG in years) but he's not a great fit for this team and he's 31, so he'll be fairly old when Monroe and Drummond begin peaking. I think (healthy) Rondo would be a fantastic fit for this team. Our defense with Rondo, KCP, Drummond and Monroe would suddenly become pretty good. There's no way we give up the big guys, but giving up Stuckey or Knight seems perfectly stomachable. I'm sure we'd have to take Gerald Wallace but that'd be fine, since Buckets isn't exactly a strong point.
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2013/6/29/4477970/rajon-rondo-trade-pistons-rajon-rondo-gerald-wallace-brandon-knight-rodney-stuckey
If Detroit sent the expiring deals of Rodney Stuckey and Charlie Villanueva along with Brandon Knight in exchange for Rondo, Wallace and Lee, who says no?
seems like a dream scenario. Not sure Celtics would even entertain it, but again, how can they go into rebuilding mode with those terrible, longterm contracts?
And I really hope Joe doesn't try to give Iggy a max deal.
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On July 01 2013 11:45 LighT. wrote:
Bargnani's deal was rejected by the NBA?
WHY DOES THE NBA FIND NEW WAYS TO SCREW THE RAPTORS OVER? WTF...
It's not a basketball reasons type thing, the deal actually isn't possible under the new cap rules for next season.
Most likely the Knicks will have to sign and trade another player for the minimum (since the salary difference between Bargs and the Knicks players is so high) so either Prigioni or Martin. Apparently the Knicks are ok with doing this, making them even crazier and Masai Ujiri even more of a genius.
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On July 01 2013 12:17 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 11:45 LighT. wrote:
Bargnani's deal was rejected by the NBA?
WHY DOES THE NBA FIND NEW WAYS TO SCREW THE RAPTORS OVER? WTF... It's not a basketball reasons type thing, the deal actually isn't possible under the new cap rules for next season. Most likely the Knicks will have to sign and trade another player for the minimum (since the salary difference between Bargs and the Knicks players is so high) so either Prigioni or Martin. Apparently the Knicks are ok with doing this, making them even crazier and Masai Ujiri even more of a genius.
I still can't really fathom trading for Bargs as NYK, but apparently they still want to go for it. It's almost outright theft by Ujiri.
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On July 01 2013 12:05 Jibba wrote:So the Celtics are stuck with some terrible, terrible Nets contracts (Gerald Wallace for 3 more years at 10m per!) and they're trying to rebuild, but Rondo's performance and recovery time are still an unknown. I know Ainge said he's not listening to trades for Rondo, but how else are you going move guys like Wallace, Lee or Humphries? What do the Pistons have to do to get him, and should they? I know Detroit fans somehow fell in love with Calderon within a month (I think because they haven't seen a real PG in years) but he's not a great fit for this team and he's 31, so he'll be fairly old when Monroe and Drummond begin peaking. I think (healthy) Rondo would be a fantastic fit for this team. Our defense with Rondo, KCP, Drummond and Monroe would suddenly become pretty good. There's no way we give up the big guys, but giving up Stuckey or Knight seems perfectly stomachable. I'm sure we'd have to take Gerald Wallace but that'd be fine, since Buckets isn't exactly a strong point. http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2013/6/29/4477970/rajon-rondo-trade-pistons-rajon-rondo-gerald-wallace-brandon-knight-rodney-stuckeyShow nested quote +If Detroit sent the expiring deals of Rodney Stuckey and Charlie Villanueva along with Brandon Knight in exchange for Rondo, Wallace and Lee, who says no? seems like a dream scenario. Not sure Celtics would even entertain it, but again, how can they go into rebuilding mode with those terrible, longterm contracts? And I really hope Joe doesn't try to give Iggy a max deal.
It's not ideal but it's not too much of an issue. There is a cap floor so Wallace's albatross will at least help them achieve that goal whilst helping them lose games (which is what they want).
This isn't a one year rebuild for the Celts so by the time they're ready to start making some noise again Wallace's expiring could be an asset. I think Rondo will be flipped for picks next year.
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On July 01 2013 10:31 RowdierBob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 09:55 Doraemon wrote:
The Rockets have traded Thomas Robinson to the Blazers in exchange for two future second-round picks and the draft rights to Kostas Papanikolau and Marko Todorovic
jesus..what a poopoo platter lol...also...worst place to go for a big man as well...not looking good for T-Rob Houston's looking really solid to land Dwight. Morey isn't doing this on the off chance he signs there. I'd say it's 90%+ that Dwight goes to Houston.
I wouldn't be surprised if Morey is doing all this based solely off of the potential that Dwight signs. He amnestied Scola, who would definitely have returned value in a trade, in an attempt to land Dwight the last time they had a chance to get him and obviously didn't have confirmation that time. Morey knows that you have to go all-in for big time FAs like Dwight when the opportunity arises, and he's doing that now. Plus, Lin and Asik don't seem like the type of players to hold it against management if they don't get Dwight and they end up still playing in HOU next season.
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Plus Morey has that "superstars or bust" attitude anyway. Don't land Dwight but get picks and MORE cap room? All good, 2014 FA is loaded as well. Even though the Rockets made the playoffs I don't think Morey or their ownership views the team making the playoffs again a huge priority, if they suck next season because they failed it's fine as long as their moves put them in good position to land a huge FA in the future, not necessarily even this year (not to mention that having tons of draft picks is a good thing). Unlike the Robinson trade, which was pretty clearly a get whatever we can in order to clear cap space type of move, I don't think Morey pulls the trigger on a trade for either player unless he's getting good value for them.
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On July 01 2013 12:38 XaI)CyRiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 10:31 RowdierBob wrote:On July 01 2013 09:55 Doraemon wrote:
The Rockets have traded Thomas Robinson to the Blazers in exchange for two future second-round picks and the draft rights to Kostas Papanikolau and Marko Todorovic
jesus..what a poopoo platter lol...also...worst place to go for a big man as well...not looking good for T-Rob Houston's looking really solid to land Dwight. Morey isn't doing this on the off chance he signs there. I'd say it's 90%+ that Dwight goes to Houston. I wouldn't be surprised if Morey is doing all this based solely off of the potential that Dwight signs. He amnestied Scola, who would definitely have returned value in a trade, in an attempt to land Dwight the last time they had a chance to get him and obviously didn't have confirmation that time. Morey knows that you have to go all-in for big time FAs like Dwight when the opportunity arises, and he's doing that now. Plus, Lin and Asik don't seem like the type of players to hold it against management if they don't get Dwight and they end up still playing in HOU next season.
not sure about asik, but i can see lin holding it against management if he's being shopped around. the guy is kind of a douche
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On July 01 2013 12:05 Jibba wrote:
And I really hope Joe doesn't try to give Iggy a max deal.
yeah, the pistons shouldn't really go for iggy, not because he wouldnt fit, but because it would make them better, lowering the chance of hitting the wiggins jackpot next year, and even if they dont get wiggins the 2014 is fucking good so you dont really want to start getting good before next years draft.
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On July 01 2013 13:21 TheMusiC wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 12:38 XaI)CyRiC wrote:On July 01 2013 10:31 RowdierBob wrote:On July 01 2013 09:55 Doraemon wrote:
The Rockets have traded Thomas Robinson to the Blazers in exchange for two future second-round picks and the draft rights to Kostas Papanikolau and Marko Todorovic
jesus..what a poopoo platter lol...also...worst place to go for a big man as well...not looking good for T-Rob Houston's looking really solid to land Dwight. Morey isn't doing this on the off chance he signs there. I'd say it's 90%+ that Dwight goes to Houston. I wouldn't be surprised if Morey is doing all this based solely off of the potential that Dwight signs. He amnestied Scola, who would definitely have returned value in a trade, in an attempt to land Dwight the last time they had a chance to get him and obviously didn't have confirmation that time. Morey knows that you have to go all-in for big time FAs like Dwight when the opportunity arises, and he's doing that now. Plus, Lin and Asik don't seem like the type of players to hold it against management if they don't get Dwight and they end up still playing in HOU next season. not sure about asik, but i can see lin holding it against management if he's being shopped around. the guy is kind of a douche
I agree, the way he took that money from Houston when he was supposed to re-sign for peanuts because all his fame was due to playing in NY. What a douchetard.
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On July 01 2013 13:39 N1k0 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 12:05 Jibba wrote:
And I really hope Joe doesn't try to give Iggy a max deal. yeah, the pistons shouldn't really go for iggy, not because he wouldnt fit, but because it would make them better, lowering the chance of hitting the wiggins jackpot next year, and even if they dont get wiggins the 2014 is fucking good so you dont really want to start getting good before next years draft.
They shouldn't get him because 1) he's getting older and his game will rapidly decline with age 2) even if he doesn't lose athleticism, he's not worth the money he's demanding. Maybe for a team on the verge, but not on a young, rebuilding team.
Plus the Pistons would be like the worst perimeter shooting team in the league.
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Iggy's only 29 -__-
I'm not sure what his asking price is. I've heard 4/50 types which is reasonable for mine. But I've heard 5/75 also which is too much for a third option type guy. He's a huge plus for many teams though because of what he brings on and off the court. He's an absolute team guy in the locker room and his passing and D are elite for his position.
He's a prime candidate for a lot of teams at the right price. I'd agree he's a wrong fit for the Pistons. That teams needs as much time and touches for the young guys--Knight, Monroe and Drummond--as it can possibly milk. Pistons need to keep their discipline of building through the draft and Iggy doesn't help that. He'd turn them from a high to low lotto type team which, at this stage, is a terrible result for the Pistons.
I think he'd look great on a lot of the bubble teams he has been linked to like Houston, NOP, GSW.
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On July 01 2013 12:27 RowdierBob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 12:05 Jibba wrote:So the Celtics are stuck with some terrible, terrible Nets contracts (Gerald Wallace for 3 more years at 10m per!) and they're trying to rebuild, but Rondo's performance and recovery time are still an unknown. I know Ainge said he's not listening to trades for Rondo, but how else are you going move guys like Wallace, Lee or Humphries? What do the Pistons have to do to get him, and should they? I know Detroit fans somehow fell in love with Calderon within a month (I think because they haven't seen a real PG in years) but he's not a great fit for this team and he's 31, so he'll be fairly old when Monroe and Drummond begin peaking. I think (healthy) Rondo would be a fantastic fit for this team. Our defense with Rondo, KCP, Drummond and Monroe would suddenly become pretty good. There's no way we give up the big guys, but giving up Stuckey or Knight seems perfectly stomachable. I'm sure we'd have to take Gerald Wallace but that'd be fine, since Buckets isn't exactly a strong point. http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2013/6/29/4477970/rajon-rondo-trade-pistons-rajon-rondo-gerald-wallace-brandon-knight-rodney-stuckeyIf Detroit sent the expiring deals of Rodney Stuckey and Charlie Villanueva along with Brandon Knight in exchange for Rondo, Wallace and Lee, who says no? seems like a dream scenario. Not sure Celtics would even entertain it, but again, how can they go into rebuilding mode with those terrible, longterm contracts? And I really hope Joe doesn't try to give Iggy a max deal. It's not ideal but it's not too much of an issue. There is a cap floor so Wallace's albatross will at least help them achieve that goal whilst helping them lose games (which is what they want). This isn't a one year rebuild for the Celts so by the time they're ready to start making some noise again Wallace's expiring could be an asset. I think Rondo will be flipped for picks next year.
I completely agree on the Rondo point. I never had the sense that Ainge would move Rondo this year, coming off an injury like that. Let him play, prove healthy, then move him if you want to get some picks or see what you can get packaging some picks together for some other stuff.
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On July 01 2013 13:46 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2013 13:39 N1k0 wrote:On July 01 2013 12:05 Jibba wrote:
And I really hope Joe doesn't try to give Iggy a max deal. yeah, the pistons shouldn't really go for iggy, not because he wouldnt fit, but because it would make them better, lowering the chance of hitting the wiggins jackpot next year, and even if they dont get wiggins the 2014 is fucking good so you dont really want to start getting good before next years draft. They shouldn't get him because 1) he's getting older and his game will rapidly decline with age 2) even if he doesn't lose athleticism, he's not worth the money he's demanding. Maybe for a team on the verge, but not on a young, rebuilding team. Plus the Pistons would be like the worst perimeter shooting team in the league.
Well we already are pretty much, so there wouldn't be much of a difference. Iggy would make us better, but probably not worth it as much for the money we would give up.
Hes right tho, We loose our pick if we aren't in the bottom 8 teams this year. and the next Draft is suppose to be great.
Twitter right now is blowing up with rumors about Josh Smith and the Pistons. Seems odd as hes more of a PF. Idk i really can't think of an appropriate way to spend the pistons money this season. We know Joe will not sit on it...im not sure how easy that is to do.
Other than just signing really trash players.
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