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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
June 30 2013 16:30 GMT
#2601
On July 01 2013 01:13 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2013 07:58 Sub40APM wrote:
LOL. Gillis is now contemplating trading Scneider because no one is dumb enough to offer him a first rounder, a prospect and a roster player for Luongo. What a clown. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426586


I'm not surprised by that at all. You either buy the man out or you do the latter. It goes way beyond what he wants in return. The contract and money is stupid especially when the cap is going down. A lot of teams are trying to unload salary not take on big chunks of it. lol

I am not at all surprised by people not wanting Lu, but that doesn't mean you turn around and trade the guy who is more or less as good it seems, but about 7 years younger. and doesnt have a stupid ass contract

i am more interested in other goalies like miller or hiller and seeing where they go
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 16:59:01
June 30 2013 16:58 GMT
#2602
this draft is so stacked, in the 2nd round alone theres at least 7-8 defensemen that have the potential to become sick players
mccoshen/bowie/bigras/santini/dickinson/theodore/heatherington/vannelli
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
June 30 2013 17:07 GMT
#2603
i really wanna see if seth jones is half as good as people think. unfortunately, we dont get juniors down here

supposedly cbj is shopping bobsv after he asked for $6m, and phoenix is going to blwo money it doesnt have on locking up Mike Fucking Smith for about $6m over 6 years

'That puts Smith among the top-10 highest-paid goalies as he’ll make slightly more than Detroit’s Jimmy Howard and the New York Rangers’ Henrik Lundqvist but less than Nashville’s Pekka Rinne and Los Angeles’ Jonathan Quick.'

Which is to say that this is an absolutely laughable contract. dude's got exactly one good year played behind a super defensive team.

Bobs is a little high too. He's a little green, but unlike smith, his body of work is muuuuch better. outside of last year, where any goalie would have trouble behind that awful flyers d, he has been very good for his age. his price is inflated because of the vezina and the fact the khl is all over him
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
June 30 2013 17:11 GMT
#2604
yea smith's contract is ridiculously atrocious, both term and money-wise. especially for how old he is t_t
wonder how long it'll take before they buy him out
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 17:25:13
June 30 2013 17:19 GMT
#2605
i just still can't wrap my head around the fact that people think he is good. it's a guy who has been somewhere between awful and ok his whole career, all the sudden posting on outlier season under one of the best defensive coaches in the league. it's exactly how brian elliot looked decent last year

e: LOL think how much rask is getting if fucking mike smith gets just under 6 for 6 yrs.
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 17:36:50
June 30 2013 17:26 GMT
#2606
yea hes a prototypical system goalie, he fits well with phoenix but only for a certain amount of $. i wouldn't give him a penny more than 4M

and the knock against jones right now is pretty much this: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1450495
that being said when u look at his skillset and size i dont think we can categorize him amongst the majority of those d-men, kid oozes with talent. hes a multi-dimensional player unlike alot of those picks

edit: according to mckenzie rask should get around 7M
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1456863&highlight=rask

Hart (forwards only):
1. Alex Ovechkin - 1st overall
2. Sidney Crosby - 1st overall
3. John Tavares - 1st overall
4. Jonathan Toews - 3rd overall
6. Patrick Kane - 1st overall

Norris:
1. P.K. Subban - 43rd overall
2. Ryan Suter - 7th overall
3. Kris Letang - 62nd overall
4. Francois Beauchemin - 75th overall
5. Zdeno Chara - 56th overall
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 17:38:35
June 30 2013 17:30 GMT
#2607
btw if anyone missed it heres mckenzie's consensus draft rankings
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=9423

edit: Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 1m

Said one NHL team exec on the draft floor: "I bet you we see 10 trades today at least."

O_________O
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 17:45:44
June 30 2013 17:43 GMT
#2608
yeah I would have to imagine he's getting 6-7, mike smith's shit deal not withstanding. rask has fantastic numbers, even if that defense rules. two of his full seasons rank up there in terms of all time highest sv%

as far as jones, yeah, history is nice on all that, but at a certain point you gotta look at the player. i dont know him well enough to really comment, but i do know that if col isnt taking jones at 1, they better be trading down and getting another defensemen or they're retarded
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Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
June 30 2013 17:46 GMT
#2609
For those in Canada, do you know if they stream the draft online?
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 30 2013 17:46 GMT
#2610
You guys already know my thoughts on those contracts so no need for me to say more. :V
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
June 30 2013 17:48 GMT
#2611
what do you think about bobs?? smith's pretty clear cut. bobs is a different story. supposedly he was asking 6m or so, 2 or 4 years. I think that is very fair based on the term, esp the first. Gives him money for a stud season, but he must prove it for the long term
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-30 18:54:29
June 30 2013 17:53 GMT
#2612
yea im fine with that, mostly because hes still really young.. if i was CLB i would give him a short-term deal at like 5.5M-6M for 2-3 years so he can prove his worth. giving someone a long term deal based off of 38 games isnt really smart
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 30 2013 18:45 GMT
#2613
Damn lots of players getting over paid today. Smith, Letang and now Bob wants 6 million a year. Which I guess is fair if the KHL is offering him 10 but still, he realizes he needs players in front of him to win something right?
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
June 30 2013 18:57 GMT
#2614
cbj has 15m in cap space atm. and he's asking for either 2 or 4 years at that price range. 2 is really fair bordering on theft considering what he could get from the K. 4 is much more in his favor but not really that outlandish.

letang, i think the price and term were a bit high. he is elite at his position, but i dont think he is top 5 elite. he just isnt good enough in his own end, period.
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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 30 2013 19:01 GMT
#2615
Columbus isnt Detroit, their internal cap is probably at 5-10 million above the league floor, so yes I think in the context of two bids where one pays him 10m and one 6m, the 6 m is fair but the question is why does he want to stay in the NHL for 2-4 years, just to get paid 6 million and get bounced pre-playoffs? 'Cuz if he isnt in it for the money he needs to think about what kind of team he plays for, a team without a number 1 center or defender. Just a hodgepodge of crap.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32161 Posts
June 30 2013 19:05 GMT
#2616
eh, tbh, i really like how cbj looked at the end of this year. theyve got some parts. supposedly their gm is pretty sharp. i think 2 years, while not the security of 4 years or a mega KHL deal, allows him to see if cbj is on the cusp of being competitive without hamstringing him there longterm
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
June 30 2013 19:07 GMT
#2617
This guy is easily the most hated commissioner in sports.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 30 2013 19:12 GMT
#2618
On July 01 2013 04:05 QuanticHawk wrote:
eh, tbh, i really like how cbj looked at the end of this year. theyve got some parts. supposedly their gm is pretty sharp. i think 2 years, while not the security of 4 years or a mega KHL deal, allows him to see if cbj is on the cusp of being competitive without hamstringing him there longterm

http://www.capgeek.com/bluejackets/

this looks like a bunch of spare parts, and they are 11 million away from the cap without resigning Bob or a bunch of forwards.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
June 30 2013 19:14 GMT
#2619
On July 01 2013 02:26 TT1 wrote:
yea hes a prototypical system goalie, he fits well with phoenix but only for a certain amount of $. i wouldn't give him a penny more than 4M

and the knock against jones right now is pretty much this: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1450495
that being said when u look at his skillset and size i dont think we can categorize him amongst the majority of those d-men, kid oozes with talent. hes a multi-dimensional player unlike alot of those picks

edit: according to mckenzie rask should get around 7M
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1456863&highlight=rask

Hart (forwards only):
1. Alex Ovechkin - 1st overall
2. Sidney Crosby - 1st overall
3. John Tavares - 1st overall
4. Jonathan Toews - 3rd overall
6. Patrick Kane - 1st overall

Norris:
1. P.K. Subban - 43rd overall
2. Ryan Suter - 7th overall
3. Kris Letang - 62nd overall
4. Francois Beauchemin - 75th overall
5. Zdeno Chara - 56th overall


Have to agree, top defenders are a lot harder to identify than top forwards. Look at Hedman, 2nd overall, and he is just a mediocre d man. Of course you could say that part of the problem is that crap teams get to draft first, which puts defenders on teams with crappy goaltending and a porous defense. Forwards can always score goals in this league, so even a god awful total piece of crap team like the Oilers will let their kids score 20-30 goals. Dguys though get ruined after years on a team like the Bolts, never capable of reaching their potential.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10104 Posts
June 30 2013 19:38 GMT
#2620
On July 01 2013 04:14 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 02:26 TT1 wrote:
yea hes a prototypical system goalie, he fits well with phoenix but only for a certain amount of $. i wouldn't give him a penny more than 4M

and the knock against jones right now is pretty much this: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1450495
that being said when u look at his skillset and size i dont think we can categorize him amongst the majority of those d-men, kid oozes with talent. hes a multi-dimensional player unlike alot of those picks

edit: according to mckenzie rask should get around 7M
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1456863&highlight=rask

Hart (forwards only):
1. Alex Ovechkin - 1st overall
2. Sidney Crosby - 1st overall
3. John Tavares - 1st overall
4. Jonathan Toews - 3rd overall
6. Patrick Kane - 1st overall

Norris:
1. P.K. Subban - 43rd overall
2. Ryan Suter - 7th overall
3. Kris Letang - 62nd overall
4. Francois Beauchemin - 75th overall
5. Zdeno Chara - 56th overall


Have to agree, top defenders are a lot harder to identify than top forwards. Look at Hedman, 2nd overall, and he is just a mediocre d man. Of course you could say that part of the problem is that crap teams get to draft first, which puts defenders on teams with crappy goaltending and a porous defense. Forwards can always score goals in this league, so even a god awful total piece of crap team like the Oilers will let their kids score 20-30 goals. Dguys though get ruined after years on a team like the Bolts, never capable of reaching their potential.


i think hedman still has alot of potential but then u have someone like eric johnson whos just a huge.. (facepalm)
guess thats why jones fell to no4
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