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On June 28 2013 12:06 Kyuukyuu wrote:
why would you suspect that?
it's unfounded to believe that one person would make multiple accounts to agree with himself
that said, i agree with all of his points
Just thought that his posts looked similar at first, but didn't really think a whole lot of it. Then I looked at his post history, and literally every single time he posted it in a thread, it was either shortly before or shortly after Jimmy started posting in it. I'd accept a few times as being a coincidence, but it's literally EVERY SINGLE TIME. I can only find three exceptions: two which are shortly before or after Lamprey starts posting, and one where he mentions Jimmy.
So, either he's stalking him, or they're the same person.
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youre right guys, there must be two canadian dudes who love the maple leafs, hate goalie stats, write like a mildly retarded 12 year old and love conspiricy theories
carry on!
![[image loading]](http://movies.infinitecoolness.com/06/conspiracy10.jpg)
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Plus because of the pixels.
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On June 28 2013 13:44 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2013 13:36 sharkeyanti wrote:
Report says Letang turns down 8 years at $7M per. He must not want to stay in PIT or something, because the best deal he'll get can't be for much more than that. 6.85M, and yes he can. you must not know about the UFA world.. grandpa streit just got 5.25M for 4 years i really hope we sign vinny, if we do plekanec becomes expendable and we might be able to trade him for a winger like stewart or bobby ryan(would need to add a 2nd or something for ryan)
Weber and Suter make north of 7M, Campbell has that dumb contract at 7.1M, and Doughty makes 7M.
That's it. Letang is basically holding out for an extra $8M max. That's a fair amount of money, but I don't think he'd turn down the Pens offer unless there were other factors at work as well.
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PLek owns, why would they trade him???
also I agree, $8m is too much for letang
http://capgeek.com/leaders/?season=2013&type=CAP_HIT&position=D&limit=25
look at the top 5 salaries there. outside of campbell, every one of those dudes is as good in his own end as he is on offense. Letang is probably the best offensively out of that group, but short of campbell, he's probably also the weakest in his own end. Not that Letang can't play defense, but he's an offensive defensmen, his defensive game is a little above average not anything particularly special. He's way better than Mike Green ever was, but Karlsson is much more of a complete player than letang.
I think 7m or so is totally fair for him. anything north of that and it starts to get ridiculous.
at any rate, if thing lingers, he's still on for next year and they will keep him on til the trade deadline at the very least
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I don't know what Payam is talking about either. If you don't want Plekanec we'll take him. I wouldn't consider Vincent Lecavalier an upgrade from Tomas. As for Letang, even 7 million would raise a lot of concerns for me when I'm bringing him into a new dressing room. The Leafs need more shut down guys rather than an offensive weapon. As much as I like Letang, I'd avoid him at the price tag he's asking for.
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On June 29 2013 00:46 StarStruck wrote:
I don't know what Payam is talking about either. If you don't want Plekanec we'll take him. I wouldn't consider Vincent Lecavalier an upgrade from Tomas. As for Letang, even 7 million would raise a lot of concerns for me when I'm bringing him into a new dressing room. The Leafs need more shut down guys rather than an offensive weapon. As much as I like Letang, I'd avoid him at the price tag he's asking for.
vinny isnt an upgrade but hes a worthy replacement(and hes a ufa so your obv not giving up any assets for him), montreal wont be a contender for another 2-3 years and by then plekanec is going to be 33 and wont have much value left. vinny would just be buying us time until galchenyuk is ready to become our no1 C. imo we should move him now and acquire a big/talented winger while he has peak value. someone like stewart or ryan would add so much depth to our team, theyre both 25 so by the time all our young players develop they'll be in their prime
i'd only do this if we manage to get vinny tho, and if we do we'd have vinny, plek, eller, desharnais, galchenyuk, 4th line C as our centers.. plekanec would become expandable. i love him as a player but hes of no use to us if we can't win a cup in the next 3 years, and because of our team makeup i dont see that happening
and i agree that letang's value is 6.5M-7M but that doesnt mean hes not gonna get more than that on the UFA market. bickell's value is around 3M and hes probably gonna end up getting 4M+
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On June 29 2013 03:32 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 00:46 StarStruck wrote:
I don't know what Payam is talking about either. If you don't want Plekanec we'll take him. I wouldn't consider Vincent Lecavalier an upgrade from Tomas. As for Letang, even 7 million would raise a lot of concerns for me when I'm bringing him into a new dressing room. The Leafs need more shut down guys rather than an offensive weapon. As much as I like Letang, I'd avoid him at the price tag he's asking for. vinny isnt an upgrade but hes a worthy replacement(and hes a ufa so your obv not giving up any assets for him), montreal wont be a contender for another 2-3 years and by then plekanec is going to be 33 and wont have much value left. imo we should move him now and acquire a big/talented winger while he has peak value. someone like stewart or ryan would add so much depth to our team, theyre both 25 so by the time all our young players develop they'll be in their prime
I don't know man. I've seen some crazy things happen. I'd like to see the Habs get more size & grit. Prust isn't enough. So if you were to trade Tomas... I certainly wouldn't make this type of a switch. Sure the fans will be overjoyed to have him because they always wanted to see Vinny in a Habs jersey just like Lindros always wanted to play for the Leafs which he did at the end of the road. We all know that story and look how that turned out. Of course he was way out of his prime and all those injuries & concussions didn't help. It's more like a swan song. Vinny doesn't really address any of the Habs real needs. The other guys you mentioned on the other hand would be a good start.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone paid Bickell five. NHL economics pff.
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On June 29 2013 03:42 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 03:32 TT1 wrote:On June 29 2013 00:46 StarStruck wrote:
I don't know what Payam is talking about either. If you don't want Plekanec we'll take him. I wouldn't consider Vincent Lecavalier an upgrade from Tomas. As for Letang, even 7 million would raise a lot of concerns for me when I'm bringing him into a new dressing room. The Leafs need more shut down guys rather than an offensive weapon. As much as I like Letang, I'd avoid him at the price tag he's asking for. vinny isnt an upgrade but hes a worthy replacement(and hes a ufa so your obv not giving up any assets for him), montreal wont be a contender for another 2-3 years and by then plekanec is going to be 33 and wont have much value left. imo we should move him now and acquire a big/talented winger while he has peak value. someone like stewart or ryan would add so much depth to our team, theyre both 25 so by the time all our young players develop they'll be in their prime I don't know man. I've seen some crazy things happen. I'd like to see the Habs get more size & grit. Prust isn't enough. So if you were to trade Tomas... I certainly wouldn't make this type of a switch. Sure the fans will be overjoyed to have him because they always wanted to see Vinny in a Habs jersey just like Lindros always wanted to play for the Leafs which he did at the end of the road. We all know that story and look how that turned out. Of course he was way out of his prime and all those injuries & concussions didn't help. It's more like a swan song. Vinny doesn't really address any of the Habs real needs. The other guys you mentioned on the other hand would be a good start. I wouldn't be surprised if someone paid Bickell five.
vinny has averaged more than .80 PPG over the past 5 seasons.. thats more than anyone on MTL. sure we'd be giving up our best PKer + 2-way player but those are easy aspects to replace, we could bring back lappy(excellent 4th line C and PKer) or sign boyd gordon (one of the best 2-way forwards in the league). in return we get a big winger(who would be apart of our core for several more years to come) and we also get bigger down the middle w/ vinny. i see it as a win/win for us tbh, not only is this a good move for our future but i feel like our roster would be much stronger with someone like b. ryan + vinny rather than plek + vinny. we desperately need big top 6 wingers
3-4 years ago gainy offered price + 1st + pacioretty + subban/mcdo for vinny (facepalm), and now no1 would ever give him that type of package. obviously plekanec isnt worth nearly as much but if we dont move him now he'll end up losing ALOT of value, i'd rather we control our own destiny by building a solid team then to keep him around for another 3+ years of failed cup runs
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On June 29 2013 03:42 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 03:32 TT1 wrote:On June 29 2013 00:46 StarStruck wrote:
I don't know what Payam is talking about either. If you don't want Plekanec we'll take him. I wouldn't consider Vincent Lecavalier an upgrade from Tomas. As for Letang, even 7 million would raise a lot of concerns for me when I'm bringing him into a new dressing room. The Leafs need more shut down guys rather than an offensive weapon. As much as I like Letang, I'd avoid him at the price tag he's asking for. vinny isnt an upgrade but hes a worthy replacement(and hes a ufa so your obv not giving up any assets for him), montreal wont be a contender for another 2-3 years and by then plekanec is going to be 33 and wont have much value left. imo we should move him now and acquire a big/talented winger while he has peak value. someone like stewart or ryan would add so much depth to our team, theyre both 25 so by the time all our young players develop they'll be in their prime I don't know man. I've seen some crazy things happen. I'd like to see the Habs get more size & grit. Prust isn't enough. So if you were to trade Tomas... I certainly wouldn't make this type of a switch. Sure the fans will be overjoyed to have him because they always wanted to see Vinny in a Habs jersey just like Lindros always wanted to play for the Leafs which he did at the end of the road. We all know that story and look how that turned out. Of course he was way out of his prime and all those injuries & concussions didn't help. It's more like a swan song. Vinny doesn't really address any of the Habs real needs. The other guys you mentioned on the other hand would be a good start. I wouldn't be surprised if someone paid Bickell five. NHL economics pff.
no one is gonna pay a 30 point 3rd line winger 5M. bickell is 27 so the odds of him improving his offencive game at this point in his career are very low.. chicago didnt even want to extend his contract for 2.5M a year in the middle of the season. hes most likely just gonna end up being another: http://www.capgeek.com/player/1046
hes gonna get a nice payday but i would be shocked if its more than 4M
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On June 29 2013 04:03 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 03:42 StarStruck wrote:On June 29 2013 03:32 TT1 wrote:On June 29 2013 00:46 StarStruck wrote:
I don't know what Payam is talking about either. If you don't want Plekanec we'll take him. I wouldn't consider Vincent Lecavalier an upgrade from Tomas. As for Letang, even 7 million would raise a lot of concerns for me when I'm bringing him into a new dressing room. The Leafs need more shut down guys rather than an offensive weapon. As much as I like Letang, I'd avoid him at the price tag he's asking for. vinny isnt an upgrade but hes a worthy replacement(and hes a ufa so your obv not giving up any assets for him), montreal wont be a contender for another 2-3 years and by then plekanec is going to be 33 and wont have much value left. imo we should move him now and acquire a big/talented winger while he has peak value. someone like stewart or ryan would add so much depth to our team, theyre both 25 so by the time all our young players develop they'll be in their prime I don't know man. I've seen some crazy things happen. I'd like to see the Habs get more size & grit. Prust isn't enough. So if you were to trade Tomas... I certainly wouldn't make this type of a switch. Sure the fans will be overjoyed to have him because they always wanted to see Vinny in a Habs jersey just like Lindros always wanted to play for the Leafs which he did at the end of the road. We all know that story and look how that turned out. Of course he was way out of his prime and all those injuries & concussions didn't help. It's more like a swan song. Vinny doesn't really address any of the Habs real needs. The other guys you mentioned on the other hand would be a good start. I wouldn't be surprised if someone paid Bickell five. NHL economics pff. no one is gonna pay a 30 point 3rd line winger 5M. bickell is 27 so the odds of him improving his offencive game at this point in his career are very low.. chicago didnt even want to extend his contract for 2.5M a year in the middle of the season. hes most likely just gonna end up being another: http://www.capgeek.com/player/1046hes gonna get a nice payday but i would be shocked if its more than 4M
Watch someone do it Payam. :V I really hate how almost every player is getting overpaid.
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On June 29 2013 04:10 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 04:03 TT1 wrote:On June 29 2013 03:42 StarStruck wrote:On June 29 2013 03:32 TT1 wrote:On June 29 2013 00:46 StarStruck wrote:
I don't know what Payam is talking about either. If you don't want Plekanec we'll take him. I wouldn't consider Vincent Lecavalier an upgrade from Tomas. As for Letang, even 7 million would raise a lot of concerns for me when I'm bringing him into a new dressing room. The Leafs need more shut down guys rather than an offensive weapon. As much as I like Letang, I'd avoid him at the price tag he's asking for. vinny isnt an upgrade but hes a worthy replacement(and hes a ufa so your obv not giving up any assets for him), montreal wont be a contender for another 2-3 years and by then plekanec is going to be 33 and wont have much value left. imo we should move him now and acquire a big/talented winger while he has peak value. someone like stewart or ryan would add so much depth to our team, theyre both 25 so by the time all our young players develop they'll be in their prime I don't know man. I've seen some crazy things happen. I'd like to see the Habs get more size & grit. Prust isn't enough. So if you were to trade Tomas... I certainly wouldn't make this type of a switch. Sure the fans will be overjoyed to have him because they always wanted to see Vinny in a Habs jersey just like Lindros always wanted to play for the Leafs which he did at the end of the road. We all know that story and look how that turned out. Of course he was way out of his prime and all those injuries & concussions didn't help. It's more like a swan song. Vinny doesn't really address any of the Habs real needs. The other guys you mentioned on the other hand would be a good start. I wouldn't be surprised if someone paid Bickell five. NHL economics pff. no one is gonna pay a 30 point 3rd line winger 5M. bickell is 27 so the odds of him improving his offencive game at this point in his career are very low.. chicago didnt even want to extend his contract for 2.5M a year in the middle of the season. hes most likely just gonna end up being another: http://www.capgeek.com/player/1046hes gonna get a nice payday but i would be shocked if its more than 4M Watch someone do it Payam. :V I really hate how almost every player is getting overpaid.
probably feaster
HEY DOES ANYONE WANT TO DO A MOCK DRAFT O.O(we'd need 30 posters tho :[)? we could do one for the first 3 rounds
btw i just saw this: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1456075 :D
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On June 29 2013 04:11 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2013 04:10 StarStruck wrote:On June 29 2013 04:03 TT1 wrote:On June 29 2013 03:42 StarStruck wrote:On June 29 2013 03:32 TT1 wrote:On June 29 2013 00:46 StarStruck wrote:
I don't know what Payam is talking about either. If you don't want Plekanec we'll take him. I wouldn't consider Vincent Lecavalier an upgrade from Tomas. As for Letang, even 7 million would raise a lot of concerns for me when I'm bringing him into a new dressing room. The Leafs need more shut down guys rather than an offensive weapon. As much as I like Letang, I'd avoid him at the price tag he's asking for. vinny isnt an upgrade but hes a worthy replacement(and hes a ufa so your obv not giving up any assets for him), montreal wont be a contender for another 2-3 years and by then plekanec is going to be 33 and wont have much value left. imo we should move him now and acquire a big/talented winger while he has peak value. someone like stewart or ryan would add so much depth to our team, theyre both 25 so by the time all our young players develop they'll be in their prime I don't know man. I've seen some crazy things happen. I'd like to see the Habs get more size & grit. Prust isn't enough. So if you were to trade Tomas... I certainly wouldn't make this type of a switch. Sure the fans will be overjoyed to have him because they always wanted to see Vinny in a Habs jersey just like Lindros always wanted to play for the Leafs which he did at the end of the road. We all know that story and look how that turned out. Of course he was way out of his prime and all those injuries & concussions didn't help. It's more like a swan song. Vinny doesn't really address any of the Habs real needs. The other guys you mentioned on the other hand would be a good start. I wouldn't be surprised if someone paid Bickell five. NHL economics pff. no one is gonna pay a 30 point 3rd line winger 5M. bickell is 27 so the odds of him improving his offencive game at this point in his career are very low.. chicago didnt even want to extend his contract for 2.5M a year in the middle of the season. hes most likely just gonna end up being another: http://www.capgeek.com/player/1046hes gonna get a nice payday but i would be shocked if its more than 4M Watch someone do it Payam. :V I really hate how almost every player is getting overpaid. probably feaster HEY DOES ANYONE WANT TO DO A MOCK DRAFT O.O(we'd need 30 posters tho :[)? we could do one for the first 3 rounds btw i just saw this: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1456075 :D
lol dat thread. I'd do it but do we even have more than 30 posters who post in this thread regularly? Might have to call DKnight.
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hf forum = greatest thing ever, its my new TL replacement
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On June 29 2013 04:41 TT1 wrote:
hf forum = greatest thing ever, its my new TL replacement
Looks way more fun than the constant whine on these boards that's for sure. Alfie is coming back. That didn't take long and I expected him to be back as well.
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Here's hoping the NHL draft is as fun as the NBA draft last night. Though I guess it'd have to be Seth Jones dropping to five or something, and then the Flyers trade Couturier, the 11th, and next years first for him. Something like that. I don't think we could even approximate the Nets/Celtics trade, though.
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See in left part of foreground near the poster/sign, that's me :D
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On June 29 2013 07:30 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:See in left part of foreground near the poster/sign, that's me :D
Ow my eyes. Where's Waldo? D:
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On June 28 2013 22:16 QuanticHawk wrote:
youre right guys, there must be two canadian dudes who love the maple leafs, hate goalie stats, write like a mildly retarded 12 year old and love conspiricy theories
carry on!
Hardly any Canadians love the Maple Leafs, great job narrowing this down.
Also, I think steroids are rampant in MLB and tampering is rampant in the NHL ... so I love conspiracy theories as well.
Can you figure out if i'm Canadian or not?
Can you figure out if i'm a "dude"?
No? I bet you can figure out my "tone" tho, eh?
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