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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 18 2013 03:51 GMT
#1821
I don't have access to any special equipment/machines so I'll go for planks. Think I planked for 60 secs with a 45lb plate last time. Was pretty challenging though! Maybe I can hack a glute ham raise-ish workout with my safety pin and bench?
Official Entusman #21
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 18 2013 14:27 GMT
#1822
Zhangkong bars are iwf certified, and they were used for the olympics in china. I havent ever used one, but they shoupd be right up there with werksan, eleiko etc on the list of awesome bars, provided theyre well taken care of.

@Infinity, glenn pendlay has a video about how people do back extensions that are really hip extensions. Search that up on youtube and try some of those.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
July 18 2013 15:07 GMT
#1823
nice gym decaf, can you makes us a little tour next time? that place looks amazing!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 16:43:55
July 18 2013 16:42 GMT
#1824
Has anyone heard of HRV (heart rate variability) monitoring? It measures your heart rate to see how well recovered you are each day.

While most of us can probably go by feel and figure out when we need to back off, this might be a more scientific approach to plan your program. I want to try it, but hopefully someone is more knowledgeable on this here.


link to website: http://www.bioforcehrv.com/
robb wolf's podcast with the creator Joel Jameson: http://robbwolf.com/2012/03/06/joel-jamieson-heart-rate-variability-paleo-solution-podcast-122/
John kiefer's podcast with Joel Jameson: https://soundcloud.com/dh-kiefer/biojacked-radio-24-joel
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 18 2013 18:07 GMT
#1825
On July 18 2013 08:49 GoTuNk! wrote:
I want to own a gym like that sometime, hopefully I can find someone who wants to run it :p. There is not a single one like that in Chile other than a few crossfit ones that are either terribly located or too small (and have rogue bars at best)

BTW, would love feedback on taishan/zhang khong barbells as I'm planning to import soon (will weight against prize)



I've actually had my Zhang Kong less than a week. If you want to ask any questions or want any pictures in particular just ask.

I can confirm the spin is fantastic, spins forever, so decaf must've had one that'd been abused. The knurling has a crazy high number of lines, which means it's quite soft but with chalk or dry hands it's very grippy. If you have sweaty hands though the result is it's not as grippy because the cuts in the bar aren't as wide or deep, kind of like with car tyres where the cuts allow water to escape from under the tyre but in dry conditions there's less surface area. The bar has a crazy amount of whip to it.

Overall it's my favourite bar to have done olympic lifting with, on par with the old Eleikos. I tried a lot of bars before getting this one, but your preferences may differ.
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
July 18 2013 18:50 GMT
#1826
On July 19 2013 03:07 Deadeight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 08:49 GoTuNk! wrote:
I want to own a gym like that sometime, hopefully I can find someone who wants to run it :p. There is not a single one like that in Chile other than a few crossfit ones that are either terribly located or too small (and have rogue bars at best)

BTW, would love feedback on taishan/zhang khong barbells as I'm planning to import soon (will weight against prize)



I've actually had my Zhang Kong less than a week. If you want to ask any questions or want any pictures in particular just ask.

I can confirm the spin is fantastic, spins forever, so decaf must've had one that'd been abused. The knurling has a crazy high number of lines, which means it's quite soft but with chalk or dry hands it's very grippy. If you have sweaty hands though the result is it's not as grippy because the cuts in the bar aren't as wide or deep, kind of like with car tyres where the cuts allow water to escape from under the tyre but in dry conditions there's less surface area. The bar has a crazy amount of whip to it.

Overall it's my favourite bar to have done olympic lifting with, on par with the old Eleikos. I tried a lot of bars before getting this one, but your preferences may differ.


Is there a go-to choice for a budget Oly bar? I'm starting to get the "build a home gym" bug again, and I want to get a Texas Power Bar and a decent but not super expensive Oly bar, like maybe a Rogue or something.

This looks doable and not too expensive:
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I deadlift for Aiur
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 18 2013 19:37 GMT
#1827
I'm UK. If you lived here I could recommend an awesome budget bar by some guys in Scotland, they started out doing strongman equipment and have expanded, everyone loves them. But they're only UK.

I don't know about what's available in the US, but a few pages back a couple of guys said Rogue bars are crap. They're not a brand that's over in the UK really so I don't know myself.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
July 18 2013 19:53 GMT
#1828
Pendlay bushing bar is only 350$
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
July 18 2013 23:19 GMT
#1829
Yeah they recently switched to higher tensile strength (same as the needle bearing bar now) and the bar diameter went down from 28.5 to 28 mm
Official Entusman #21
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
July 19 2013 05:57 GMT
#1830
I'll reframe my question. How on earth do I asses barbells quality?
How about discs quality? Is there even such a thing? They have "competition discs" and "training discs" with different prices.

Zhang Khong alone has 5 different bars.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 14:19:52
July 19 2013 14:19 GMT
#1831
generally the higher quality bars have better flex and spin for oly lifting. Just do a couple 150kg clean and jerks and see how each one feels :D

Disc quality is usually just the way they're constructed. Cheap ass bumper plates just have like a metal ring in the middle and the rubber ends up cracking and everything falls to shit. Nicer ones (any decent training set) have the middle of the plate that you slide on to the bar is actually built into the disc so that shit doesnt fall apart. Then competition ones are usually super not-bouncy, when you drop that shit it hits like a rock lol. And competition bumpers and barbells have to meet IWF standards for dimensions and whatnot.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19161 Posts
July 19 2013 14:21 GMT
#1832
Cheap bumpers can also be way off, like a "45lb" could be anywhere from 43-47lb
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
July 19 2013 18:03 GMT
#1833
Yeah to meet competition regulations the weight has to be accurate to within a certain error, that's normally one of the main differences between "training" and "competition". In practice it won't make much difference.
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
July 19 2013 19:33 GMT
#1834
first i was kinda regretting ordering more weights for my rnd 30mm bars cause i thought maybe investing in a nice bar and stuff would be cool. then i saw the price. lolnothx. maybe in 2 years i reach a point where that investment is justified but def not now ~~
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 21:25:41
July 19 2013 21:24 GMT
#1835
@GoTunk! About disc quality it all depends on what you're using them for. These are the ones they have at my gym, they're pretty much the cheapest kind out there.

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As decaf said, they have that shit metal ring in the middle, and it tends to get loose over time and the disc starts cracking from the center out. For personal use I think they're pretty durable, but If they're being used in classes 5 or 6 times a day then they won't last long, the 25lbs and 10lbs discs are specially fragile. Rogue sells this kind of disc as "Rogue HG plates" I believe. The Hi-Temp plates are super durable but they're so fucking thick, you can't load up a bar with over 200kg or so. If you get the more expensive discs they'll last pretty much forever so it's worth the money. I want to buy a Pendlay bar and plates so baaaad. Someday.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
July 20 2013 00:52 GMT
#1836
On July 19 2013 08:19 infinity21 wrote:
Yeah they recently switched to higher tensile strength (same as the needle bearing bar now) and the bar diameter went down from 28.5 to 28 mm


Ah cool. There's a Pendlay bar at my gym that is very un-impressive, rusted and doesn't spin for shit, but it's a powerlifting/strongman gym mostly so it probably just got beat to hell (wuts a kilo?). The ones on the website look awesome.

@Deadeight, ever since you posted that picture I've been obsessed with building a home gym. After screwing around in Google Sketchup a little I figured out that I can fit a lifting platform, a small power cage and a car in my garage with some room to spare.

Home gym sketchup
I deadlift for Aiur
autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
July 20 2013 02:10 GMT
#1837
For you guys with home gyms, where did you buy your power rack and plates and stuff? I know there must be places to get them cheaper than at a sporting goods store.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
July 20 2013 02:40 GMT
#1838
Turning 20 in a few hours; just wanted to say thanks for the community. I'll see if I can get some progress pics up in the next few days. There's definately been a rediculous development (from 67kg on June 2011 to the 97kg I am now). Still got a long way to go though.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
July 20 2013 03:47 GMT
#1839
happy birthday!

btw speaking of home gyms, whats a good way of buying a pullup bar. I something like this http://www.ironmind-store.com/NEW-ALight-Training-Center/productinfo/1480/


For training plates, I would go for the cheaper sets, doesnt really matter if they crack that much.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 13:20:30
July 20 2013 13:14 GMT
#1840
On July 20 2013 11:40 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Turning 20 in a few hours; just wanted to say thanks for the community. I'll see if I can get some progress pics up in the next few days. There's definately been a rediculous development (from 67kg on June 2011 to the 97kg I am now). Still got a long way to go though.


Holy shit. That's some great progress. I took my 50 year old dad to the gym today! He actually has a very muscular build, probably genetics + martial arts from when he was younger. His legs and especially his calves are actually pretty fucking rediculous.
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