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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
October 31 2013 18:00 GMT
#2961
Well yeah, but zatic is describing leg imbalances and having issues with stability, and my point is that getting those sorted out through pistol squats risks injury more so than with easier, less tenuous exercises. Pistol squats are good, don't get me wrong, but I've seen more than a few people fall over and really fuck themselves up on lunges/pistols when they probably shoulda been grinding out something less risky first.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 18:02:45
October 31 2013 18:02 GMT
#2962
xD saw some fitness youtuber do some pistol squats with bar overhead +10kg each side the other day and thought they're easy. Tried them with bw only at the gym and fell on my ass like an idiot haha.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 31 2013 18:06 GMT
#2963
I've been having some pain I can only describe as tightness in my back (thoracolumbar fascia) mildly after squats but moreso after deadlifts. By the time I get home I feel fine again, but sometimes I notice pain at work after stacking a bunch of chairs, though it's very mild. Is this just pain because my back is weak and it's normal muscle pain? Could it be pain due to sitting a lot through the day and poor posture while driving or at work? And of course the last option is that it could be due to poor form but I'm pretty confident in my squat form, though I'll try to take a video when I can of that and my deadlift.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
October 31 2013 18:12 GMT
#2964
If you are sure that it is thoracic, that being the "middle" of your back, posture and ab strength are likely the two big culprits. Hard to say without more info though.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
October 31 2013 18:48 GMT
#2965
On November 01 2013 03:06 Najda wrote:
I've been having some pain I can only describe as tightness in my back (thoracolumbar fascia) mildly after squats but moreso after deadlifts. By the time I get home I feel fine again, but sometimes I notice pain at work after stacking a bunch of chairs, though it's very mild. Is this just pain because my back is weak and it's normal muscle pain? Could it be pain due to sitting a lot through the day and poor posture while driving or at work? And of course the last option is that it could be due to poor form but I'm pretty confident in my squat form, though I'll try to take a video when I can of that and my deadlift.



From what you are saying it seems its just tight muscles (thoracolumbar fascia)? If it hurts on the sides of the spine its a muscle thing most likely, I'd be wary if only one side hurts as it can indicate some sort of imbalance. If it hurts in the middle (i,e, the spine itself) I'd be very careful.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 31 2013 18:49 GMT
#2966
Yeah it's the muscles on either side. It's not dehabilitating by any means and it's only particularly noticeable after deadlifts.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
October 31 2013 19:56 GMT
#2967
On November 01 2013 02:54 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:49 farvacola wrote:
Pistol squats are really hard lol, and if one leg already has stability issues, injury might not be far off. I'd recommend weighted step ups or some single leg press work myself.


Of course they're hard if you don't do them. That's no reason to avoid them T_T

Yeah, you can do it while holding onto a door frame or some other stable object if balance is an issue.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-31 20:09:46
October 31 2013 20:09 GMT
#2968
On November 01 2013 04:56 infinity21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 02:54 decafchicken wrote:
On November 01 2013 02:49 farvacola wrote:
Pistol squats are really hard lol, and if one leg already has stability issues, injury might not be far off. I'd recommend weighted step ups or some single leg press work myself.


Of course they're hard if you don't do them. That's no reason to avoid them T_T

Yeah, you can do it while holding onto a door frame or some other stable object if balance is an issue.

But then we're talking a choice between pistol's with a large assist versus step up's without one, and in terms of shoring up stability, I'd rather my clients start with the easier exercise in which they require no assistance than the one that requires that they effectively cheat in order to make it work, particularly since stability and leg imbalance are already issues.
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 31 2013 20:55 GMT
#2969
Step ups, split squats, Isolateral leg presses, and single-leg machine hamstring curls. Combination of all of the worked out most of my hip issues. Not sure how well they transfer to the knee, and I'm sure it depends on what's weak and what was actually wrong in the first place. Go see a PT if you can, not really something to diagnose online.

@najda, I've got the same problem because my routine suddenly has a TON more upper body pulling volume than I'm used to. Weak rhomboids, weak postural mid-back muscles. It's getting better with time. Try to hit it with a lax ball/foam roller. If you think it's because you don't hit those muscles enough, give face pulls with a scapular retraction before the pull a try, or chest-supported DB rows (lying chest-down on an incline bench with a DB in both hands, so you can't swing your back.) If you think it's a too much volume thing, just take the usual rest precautions and then get back at it as soon as you feel up to it.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
October 31 2013 22:27 GMT
#2970
The very bottom of my right trap always hurts me whenever i start doing heavy front squats/cleans and the like. I try getting in there with a lax ball but it's difficult, massages are expensive, it's a difficult area to stretch. I have my roommate chiro adjust it every now and again which helps a bit. I'm sure it's related to my overhead work and tight right rotator cuff.
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
October 31 2013 22:38 GMT
#2971
On October 30 2013 20:49 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 20:47 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On October 28 2013 19:47 zatic wrote:
On October 27 2013 04:24 Osmoses wrote:
Larger lifting shoes? I've heard you wanna get a smaller size for max tightness/stability.

I bought adidas Power Perfect II's in my size and they are way too small

Anyone want a pair size EU 42 - US 8.5?


Can't send them back?

I was too lazy and didn't send them back in time

You could ask Nerlinger whether you can send them to him if they are still as good as new, and pay like 30-40 euros extra for a new pair.
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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
October 31 2013 23:06 GMT
#2972
We lost our subforum T_T
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
October 31 2013 23:13 GMT
#2973
Alas tt. I wonder how this is going to end up working. Somewhere we managed to go from TL Community --> Private --> Sports
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 31 2013 23:14 GMT
#2974
Not too surprising I guess. We still have each other. Everyone hold tight.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 31 2013 23:20 GMT
#2975
hmm with the new design I don't even know how to get to this thread without using the subscribed threads function
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 31 2013 23:24 GMT
#2976
On November 01 2013 08:20 AsnSensation wrote:
hmm with the new design I don't even know how to get to this thread without using the subscribed threads function


Its under sports. Community -> Sports -> H&F Initiative
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Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
October 31 2013 23:45 GMT
#2977
Are we still keeping the Weightlifting Progress thread as well?
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10093 Posts
November 01 2013 00:01 GMT
#2978
hope so... TLFH was a nice little cave, im so sad
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 01 2013 00:22 GMT
#2979
On November 01 2013 03:00 farvacola wrote:
Well yeah, but zatic is describing leg imbalances and having issues with stability, and my point is that getting those sorted out through pistol squats risks injury more so than with easier, less tenuous exercises. Pistol squats are good, don't get me wrong, but I've seen more than a few people fall over and really fuck themselves up on lunges/pistols when they probably shoulda been grinding out something less risky first.


How do you fall over and fuck yourself up with pistol squats? Unloaded and you hurt yourself?

As to the OP on this issue, you probably are just having mobility issues, not stability issues. Can't really tell without a video.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
November 01 2013 00:25 GMT
#2980
I don't get why they have to remove the forum, it's easy to hide if you don't want it at the sidebar -.-
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