EPT2ndly, Müller is just better as Robben right now, because Robben was injured and Müller is owning up the Bundesliga (11 goals 11 assists), he isn't slow either. But maybe we will see Ribery-Müller-Robben up front next game against arsenal with Kroos playing Schweinsteigers spot, cause Schweinsteiger will be out (3 yellows)
Champions League/Europa League Thread 2012-13 - Page 45
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DaMuffinman
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2ndly, Müller is just better as Robben right now, because Robben was injured and Müller is owning up the Bundesliga (11 goals 11 assists), he isn't slow either. But maybe we will see Ribery-Müller-Robben up front next game against arsenal with Kroos playing Schweinsteigers spot, cause Schweinsteiger will be out (3 yellows) | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On February 20 2013 18:53 Da-Muffinman wrote: 2010/2011: Dortmund: 22 goals conceded, Bayern: 40 2011/2012: Dortmund 25, Bayern 22.... 3 goals difference. "several seasons".... kkkkkk Since Klopp is there, there was only one (full) season where Bayern had a way better defense(09/10, 11 goals difference) than Dortmund. But it's true, this season Dortmunds defense sucks compared to the last seasons. I have all those crazy results in mind when I think of Dortmund in the last seasons (thinking 3-3 or 4-4 against Stuttgart etc.), guess I was wrong. Still don't see how Dortmund's defense is in any way better organized, especially right now. When I think of Dortmund's strengths, it's clearly the combination of very fast, creative and really good goal scoring capabilities in their midfield (Reus, Götze, (Kagawa), Sahin) with a world class striker (Lewandowski). I don't see anyone in their defense except maybe Hummels as world class. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Passed it around nicely, got in twice behind the back 4 of Bayern as the LB was in no mans land twice, Cazorla makes the worst cross ever from inside the right channel. Then your thinking WTF is wrong with Bayern, why are Arsenal keeping the ball well and getting in behind so easily. Then boom, piece of brilliance from Kroos and Arsenal implode. Then for a team which is supposed to be so good defensively, the goal they conceded was a huge brain fart, from the keeper to the marking. Anyway, like i said, i will draw up a better conclusion of Bayern after the second leg at home. They should dominate that game with the scoreline as it is now. But for a team with an "excellent" defensive record, i still can't get that 3-0 loss to BATE out of my head... On February 20 2013 19:05 Da-Muffinman wrote: First of all, Pandemona, Hummels is @ Dortmund, you mean Badstuber xD. Badstuber is injured and Boateng is out 2 CL games I think cause of the dumb red against BATE. 2ndly, Müller is just better as Robben right now, because Robben was injured and Müller is owning up the Bundesliga (11 goals 11 assists), he isn't slow either. But maybe we will see Ribery-Müller-Robben up front next game against arsenal with Kroos playing Schweinsteigers spot, cause Schweinsteiger will be out (3 yellows) Ahaha, ooo i get confused  So yeah, Boateng and Badstuber coming back into the back 4? In replace of Dante and Rafhina person? Lahm goes to LB does he? But personally i don't rate Muller as the level i would Robben, but i understand why you would play Muller over Robben. Muller is 100% more disciplined defensively, and would never drift in and out of games, is always the same level and has that German mentality....Robben...not so much, but on his day his world class omg goal vs Man Utd day, he is very good, better than Muller too, but like you said with stats this season...Muller > Robben | ||
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DaMuffinman
Germany1705 Posts
On February 20 2013 19:11 Pandemona wrote: + Show Spoiler + Yes, but it was a SHIT Arsenal team and side...Arsenal didn't have a cat and hell's chance going into the game, yet, Arsenal should of done better, the first 10 minutes of the game summed up Arsenal's season. Passed it around nicely, got in twice behind the back 4 of Bayern as the LB was in no mans land twice, Cazorla makes the worst cross ever from inside the right channel. Then your thinking WTF is wrong with Bayern, why are Arsenal keeping the ball well and getting in behind so easily. Then boom, piece of brilliance from Kroos and Arsenal implode. Then for a team which is supposed to be so good defensively, the goal they conceded was a huge brain fart, from the keeper to the marking. + Show Spoiler + Anyway, like i said, i will draw up a better conclusion of Bayern after the second leg at home. They should dominate that game with the scoreline as it is now. But for a team with an "excellent" defensive record, i still can't get that 3-0 loss to BATE out of my head... That's just how they concede goals this season... Best one was Sam with the header onto Boatengs head into goal xD Edit: Badstuber won't be coming back, he teared his ACL, maybe he will be back April/May but I don't think so this season. Dante has played every single game this season, and is adapting better and better to Bayerns style, and he was also part of the 2nd best defense with Mönchengladbach of the Bundesliga last season. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Yeah im looking forward to seeing the home tie, see if they are contenders. I do however believe when Pep brings some players in they will be contenders next season! | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Like Villa in England, had a good season, then boom. Ashley Young - Gareth Barry - Downing; all leave and they are left with nothing and now are shit xD Think Dante still needs to learn though, he was piss poor at Wembley for Brazil xD | ||
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Pandemona
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duckii
Germany1017 Posts
On February 20 2013 19:11 Pandemona wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Yes, but it was a SHIT Arsenal team and side...Arsenal didn't have a cat and hell's chance going into the game, yet, Arsenal should of done better, the first 10 minutes of the game summed up Arsenal's season. Passed it around nicely, got in twice behind the back 4 of Bayern as the LB was in no mans land twice, Cazorla makes the worst cross ever from inside the right channel. Then your thinking WTF is wrong with Bayern, why are Arsenal keeping the ball well and getting in behind so easily. Then boom, piece of brilliance from Kroos and Arsenal implode. Then for a team which is supposed to be so good defensively, the goal they conceded was a huge brain fart, from the keeper to the marking. Anyway, like i said, i will draw up a better conclusion of Bayern after the second leg at home. They should dominate that game with the scoreline as it is now. But for a team with an "excellent" defensive record, i still can't get that 3-0 loss to BATE out of my head... On February 20 2013 19:05 Da-Muffinman wrote: First of all, Pandemona, Hummels is @ Dortmund, you mean Badstuber xD. Badstuber is injured and Boateng is out 2 CL games I think cause of the dumb red against BATE. 2ndly, Müller is just better as Robben right now, because Robben was injured and Müller is owning up the Bundesliga (11 goals 11 assists), he isn't slow either. But maybe we will see Ribery-Müller-Robben up front next game against arsenal with Kroos playing Schweinsteigers spot, cause Schweinsteiger will be out (3 yellows) Ahaha, ooo i get confused So yeah, Boateng and Badstuber coming back into the back 4? In replace of Dante and Rafhina person? Lahm goes to LB does he? But personally i don't rate Muller as the level i would Robben, but i understand why you would play Muller over Robben. Muller is 100% more disciplined defensively, and would never drift in and out of games, is always the same level and has that German mentality....Robben...not so much, but on his day his world class omg goal vs Man Utd day, he is very good, better than Muller too, but like you said with stats this season...Muller > Robben You mean Alaba (not Rafinha). He made some mistakes last night but he is a huge talent and will be the best LB in 2 years  .But seriously the boy is good and was dearly missed in the last CL final. | ||
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On February 20 2013 20:13 Pandemona wrote: What?? He was shocking yesterday? The amount of times Ribery was in front of him ushering him around due to being in the wrong position was way to many times for champions league level... He didn't play too well yesterday, as most of the team, but he is usually really good. Shit happens. Apart from Martinez and Kroos in the first half, as well as Müller and Lahm in general, no Bayern player did well yesterday imo. I don't get why the media is full of praise about Bayern yesterday, it wasn't really that convincing. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I didn't think "he played to well" sums his performance up though? Like i said, Ribery playing LB is just pointless. Anyway, not like Bayern aren't going to cruise into the last 16, i just want to see them playing football more in the second leg, and see what they REALLY can do. They are pretty strong at home....unless their playing vs Chelsea | ||
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Epx
Switzerland209 Posts
On February 20 2013 20:28 Pandemona wrote: They are pretty strong at home....unless their playing vs Chelsea actually they raped them last year, chelsea didn't even have a tiny bit of a chance. it was awful to watch them parking the bus and then seeing how 2 lucky counterattacks can bring you the trophy. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
GG no re That was a troll ofc, but lets see the facts and figures for lols. As a Chelsea fan i can never grow old of re watching it/re studying it  Bayern - 35shots, 8 on target Chelsea - 9shots, 3 on target Bayern 4.3 shots per shot on target Chelsea - 1shot in 3 on target Bayern passed the ball 790 times compared to 633 for Chelsea. (not a huge gulf) 1st half Possession; 60% 40% 2nd half Possession; 52% 48% Extra Time Possession; 59% 41% Overall; 56% 44% And compare that with the 58% possession for Arsenal yesterday, and everyone saying "they got battered" even though that had more of the ball than Bayern, i would not be to ashamed of what Chelsea did. The gap in the first half is embarassing, but the overall stats are not to bad! | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On February 21 2013 01:15 Pandemona wrote: How did they rape Chelsea...who won GG no re That was a troll ofc, but lets see the facts and figures for lols. As a Chelsea fan i can never grow old of re watching it/re studying it Bayern - 35shots, 8 on target Chelsea - 9shots, 3 on target Bayern 4.3 shots per shot on target Chelsea - 1shot in 3 on target Bayern passed the ball 790 times compared to 633 for Chelsea. (not a huge gulf) 1st half Possession; 60% 40% 2nd half Possession; 52% 48% Extra Time Possession; 59% 41% Overall; 56% 44% And compare that with the 58% possession for Arsenal yesterday, and everyone saying "they got battered" even though that had more of the ball than Bayern, i would not be to ashamed of what Chelsea did. The gap in the first half is embarassing, but the overall stats are not to bad! If a team is behind like Chelsea right from the beginning they will usually have more possession, because they will have to attack to while trying to even things out. Especially on their home turf. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
First 10 minutes of the game summed up Arsenal's season. Majority of the ball, good chances to get the ball in the box and get some shots in. All comes to nothing, opponent runs down the other end and scores. If your talking about the Chelsea vs Bayern game then, well im not sure what your point is as we didn't go behind until ermm 75th minute? | ||
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