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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28920 Posts
November 12 2012 21:09 GMT
#3061
the friendlies system could / should prolly be revamped into more of a mini-tournament setting during off-season or whatever. or just begone with.
but don't touch qualifiers. neutral fans might not care for expected blowout victories, but for the supporters of teams that never make the WC or EC, the qualifiers are really exciting.
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
November 12 2012 21:39 GMT
#3062
On another note, I just saw Nuri Sahin playing for Liverpool, he is horrible now compared to the player he used to be in Dortmund.
His career has gone so much downhill since joining Real, I guess Madrid isn't really a good place to get it going again after an injury given the insane competitiveness of the squad. Even Dortmund wouldn't have use for him anymore, Gündogan is much better currently.
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
November 12 2012 22:01 GMT
#3063
On November 13 2012 06:39 Maenander wrote:
On another note, I just saw Nuri Sahin playing for Liverpool, he is horrible now compared to the player he used to be in Dortmund.
His career has gone so much downhill since joining Real, I guess Madrid isn't really a good place to get it going again after an injury given the insane competitiveness of the squad. Even Dortmund wouldn't have use for him anymore, Gündogan is much better currently.

We should call it "the curse of RM!" :D
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
November 13 2012 13:06 GMT
#3064
On November 13 2012 06:39 Maenander wrote:
On another note, I just saw Nuri Sahin playing for Liverpool, he is horrible now compared to the player he used to be in Dortmund.
His career has gone so much downhill since joining Real, I guess Madrid isn't really a good place to get it going again after an injury given the insane competitiveness of the squad. Even Dortmund wouldn't have use for him anymore, Gündogan is much better currently.


Pretty much all players are only good because the system in dortmund makes everyone better. Look at Piszek, he was a Bench Warmer at Hertha BSC and now he is the best RB in the league.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 13:42:56
November 13 2012 13:42 GMT
#3065
So I put in $20 into a betting account so I can watch live streams on their website.
Decided that I might as well try some betting, so I put 5 dollars into each of these;

Panama-Spain more than 3 goals.
Gabon-Portugal more than 3 goals.
Saudi Arabia-Argentina more than 3 goals.

What's the likelihood I'm going to get screwed over by these 'big' countries not scoring more than 3 goals against minnows? =[
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 13 2012 13:53 GMT
#3066
I'll put $20 on the Portugal fail to score, let alone more than 3

Did you have just more than 3 goals in the game? or for the big teams to win by more than 3?

If you juave have 3 goals in the game, you should be ok. Minus Portugal, who without Ronaldo are woeful
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 14:00:26
November 13 2012 13:55 GMT
#3067
If I knew they weren't playing with Ronaldo I wouldn't have made the bet -_-
(it's just over 3 goals in general)

EDIT: Wow, they couldn't even score more than 3 against Azerbaijan at home. Should have done more research hahaha.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 13 2012 14:01 GMT
#3068
Not to bad, they might lose 2-1 and you get your bet!

Other games should be good for 3+ goals.

Source - Ronaldo's Horrid Eye Injury

The injury left him "temporarily" blinded, if you agree with reports.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
November 13 2012 17:20 GMT
#3069
pretty sure panama is not a walkover country anymore

those are all three quite risky bets imo :p
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 17:25:39
November 13 2012 17:25 GMT
#3070
On November 13 2012 23:01 Pandemona wrote:
Not to bad, they might lose 2-1 and you get your bet!

Other games should be good for 3+ goals.

Source - Ronaldo's Horrid Eye Injury

The injury left him "temporarily" blinded, if you agree with reports.


Prob had some blood go in the eye or something, thats really nasty though.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
November 13 2012 21:49 GMT
#3071
Btw what does everyone think of Platini's Euro 2020 idea?

I am not sure about it. While I like it that more countries would be used for stadiums and already given infrastructure will be used (nothing I hate more then expanding a stadium pre-Euro and then making it smaller again post-Euro) I do think it would kinda remove the spirit of home crowd advantage...
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
November 13 2012 22:04 GMT
#3072
On November 14 2012 06:49 sharkie wrote:
Btw what does everyone think of Platini's Euro 2020 idea?

I am not sure about it. While I like it that more countries would be used for stadiums and already given infrastructure will be used (nothing I hate more then expanding a stadium pre-Euro and then making it smaller again post-Euro) I do think it would kinda remove the spirit of home crowd advantage...


Its not a bad idea, for starters it means theres a diminished issue of the home team getting kicked out of the competition early.

There will probably next to no infrastructure cost which is kinda double edged. Theres a fair bit of money to be made for the host. Now thats getting spread around everyone will make some and probably not have to use massive budgets. I dont know who needs how much (everyone does though) but I suppose to a degree its fair.

Theres a number of other things but cba to put them down.

The major concern though is that the can of worms that will get opened over the individual games and the venues. So alot of jostling within and between countries. Theres going to be a fair bit of politics and stepping on toes.

Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 13 2012 22:24 GMT
#3073
I don't like it. This is just what the Dutch FA and Feyenoord stadium owner need to force a new stadium down our throats. In all seriousness, I don't see what is wrong with the current system. Hell I don't even like how they are going to include more teams. :/
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
November 14 2012 14:50 GMT
#3074
Gotta see what's up with Jozy Altidore in Russia vs. US, he's been scoring like a maniac in Eredivisie, but Klinsmann's barely been playing him or even putting him in the team.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 15:10:41
November 14 2012 15:01 GMT
#3075
I love how no one on the US National Team plays in the MLS. Football in America is such a joke

FUCK
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 15:24:11
November 14 2012 15:22 GMT
#3076
On November 15 2012 00:01 Ferrose wrote:
I love how no one on the US National Team plays in the MLS. Football in America is such a joke

FUCK

MLS has such a huge disadvantage of coming late to the scene as a league, thus no established fan interest, thus low revenue, thus no best players, thus no built fan interest, cycle happens. And none of the top American players (except Lando) want to play there cause the level is so low and they will become worse players.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-14 15:31:29
November 14 2012 15:27 GMT
#3077
On November 15 2012 00:22 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2012 00:01 Ferrose wrote:
I love how no one on the US National Team plays in the MLS. Football in America is such a joke

FUCK

MLS has such a huge disadvantage of coming late to the scene as a league, thus no established fan interest, thus low revenue, thus no best players, thus no built fan interest, cycle happens. And none of the top American players (except Lando) want to play there cause the level is so low and they will become worse players.


Yeah and with the designated player rule (while an awesome idea), we just end up getting past-their-prime stars who aren't good enough to play for top-level European clubs anymore.

Don't get me wrong, it's great to see American players distinguishing themselves in the international scene, but I wish there was more reason to be excited about our domestic league.

Well the US got a shot on goal, looks like they're getting over their nerves a bit finally.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 14 2012 15:35 GMT
#3078
Wouldn't say the level is "so low" it is not the highest no, but Beckham and co have attracted some nice players over there and it will improve gradually.

Best players do play in the best leagues though? Many European nations could say the same thing about there leagues and were all there players play from in terms of domestic league vs nationality. That is natural in Football.

Pumping money at things is only a quick fix, ala signing Beckham and co to LA Galaxy and hoping they do well, but to improve it properly you have to make more people aware of football and get football schools set up around the country and broaden peoples eyes. However i think America are trying this, like the 100000000000000000 tv channels you have, there is always football on one of the channels and it shows Chelsea nearly everytime they play which is great for streaming 3pm kick off games which aren't on tv, plus when i holiday in America i always watch.

I think in 5-10 years it might be a different story in the US, and well, the national team aren't no mugs!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 14 2012 15:40 GMT
#3079
On November 15 2012 00:35 Pandemona wrote:
Wouldn't say the level is "so low" it is not the highest no, but Beckham and co have attracted some nice players over there and it will improve gradually.

Best players do play in the best leagues though? Many European nations could say the same thing about there leagues and were all there players play from in terms of domestic league vs nationality. That is natural in Football.

Pumping money at things is only a quick fix, ala signing Beckham and co to LA Galaxy and hoping they do well, but to improve it properly you have to make more people aware of football and get football schools set up around the country and broaden peoples eyes. However i think America are trying this, like the 100000000000000000 tv channels you have, there is always football on one of the channels and it shows Chelsea nearly everytime they play which is great for streaming 3pm kick off games which aren't on tv, plus when i holiday in America i always watch.

I think in 5-10 years it might be a different story in the US, and well, the national team aren't no mugs!


Soccer is actually extremely popular as a youth sport in the US, I think the problem is more that, with soccer not being as culturally relevant here, people who are gifted athletes will go into American football, basketball, or baseball, and I don't blame them, because that's where the money is.

American sports don't have academies to develop players (soccer teams do though) and such as the European clubs do, because players are usually developed by playing for their respective high school and university teams, then drafted to clubs after graduation.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 14 2012 15:47 GMT
#3080
Yeah i guess it's down to the way your "youth" (college) teams are set up. Gifted players in "soccer" can get scholarships? But there is no draft? Or is there? I'm not that into MLS myself All i know is you used a retarded league/play off system

I guess the most talented players if there was any would need to be scouted by the European clubs for them to get out and make the big $$s but im sure that would happen if they were that good. But i know the 3 big sports you just mentioned are pretty much stuffed into your face if your good at sports, and no one really mentions any other sport!

Is there a champions league based cup competition for your federation btw? Ie CONCAF (your federation) should have a champions league competition set up? With the other countries that are involved in your world cup qualifying groups. Is there one, because that is another way to get the teams more "air" time as you will and more scouts looking at them.

Specially with the world club championships now every year with the winners from each federation sent over to "x" country to play in a tournament to find out the world best team.
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