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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 30 2012 03:01 GMT
#3041
I thought ur supposed to lower the deadlift, not drop it

or is that just not really a big deal

or are you only dropping it because its too hard to lower it?
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
March 30 2012 03:14 GMT
#3042
On March 30 2012 12:01 travis wrote:
I thought ur supposed to lower the deadlift, not drop it

or is that just not really a big deal

or are you only dropping it because its too hard to lower it?


Important part of the deadlift is the lifting phase. It's best to let the weight down quickly to save your energy for the lifting, and this also reduces risk of injury. You probably shouldn't just let go when you're at the top, but no reason to set it down gently.

Also, the heavier a deadlift gets the bigger an impact it's going to make at a given speed.
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
March 30 2012 03:16 GMT
#3043
On March 30 2012 12:01 travis wrote:
I thought ur supposed to lower the deadlift, not drop it

or is that just not really a big deal

or are you only dropping it because its too hard to lower it?


If it's light enough to control it on the way down, sure. But it's very easy to hurt yourself if you're maxing out and you try to essentially do a negative after your reps.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
March 30 2012 03:26 GMT
#3044
seems like you shouldn't hurt yourself if you use good form

to me it's like "why don't we start squats at the bottom" ?

are you sure that lowering the deadlift couldn't have substantial impact on muscle development?
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
March 30 2012 03:36 GMT
#3045
not much, but I think the most beneficial thing is that your muscles will be trained on how to control heavy weight better. But other than that the most important part is the lift. At powerlifting meets they only care about the lift and lock-out. The descent doesn't really matter.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
March 30 2012 03:37 GMT
#3046
On March 30 2012 12:26 travis wrote:
seems like you shouldn't hurt yourself if you use good form

to me it's like "why don't we start squats at the bottom" ?

are you sure that lowering the deadlift couldn't have substantial impact on muscle development?

You can do squats from the bottom, you can't lift as much weight if you do because you lose the muscle tension you get from the eccentric part of the lift when you come down from the top.

It's the same with a deadlift, you can do RDLs starting from the top of the deadlift and lowering it to touch the floor and coming up from there. A standard deadlift is picking a weight up from the floor to an upright position. You can safely move more weight up than you can down in a controlled manner, so to protect myself I lower the bar to my knees and then essentially let it fall from my knees while maintaining grip.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 30 2012 08:05 GMT
#3047
Good start of my day, level up in squats, bench and deadlift as well. I took someone's advice (from this thread) and did higher reps lower weight on wednesday and I guess that worked out pretty well. Gonna need more data points to confirm this theory.

Two girls were doing power cleans with like 50kg. I was pretty impressed tbh, they had really good form. I probably got a little bit inspired there.

I usually slap my face and my neck when I'm going for a new PR just to pep myself. Overdid it a little before squats, slapped my neck so hard I actually zoned out for a second.

Anyway, squats and bench I feel I got down. When I remember all the details, they're easy, just a matter of learning through repetition so I won't have to go through the list every time. But deadlifts I'm still unsure about. Gonna do some reasearch this weekend, check my form in the mirror and maybe get a PT.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
March 30 2012 11:11 GMT
#3048
On March 30 2012 10:59 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 06:49 Hurricane wrote:
fuck curls, I pull 4 plates all day

and the fitness.... w/e it is at the Y asked me to do lighter deadlifts because it feels like an earthquake downstairs when I drop it from my knees. How about not putting the gym on the 2nd floor and get me a platform, I'm gonna pull 5plates before 2013 bitches.

I hope one day to be mistaken for an earthquake when I deadlift.

Going to steal this quote
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)1497 Posts
March 30 2012 12:04 GMT
#3049
Hey guys, I always take 2 protein scoops which amounts to about 40g of protein and 400 calories post workout. My friend saw this and told me it was a waste and that I should just take 1 scoop. How much protein do you guys take post workout?
Karma is a bitch
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 12:07:44
March 30 2012 12:06 GMT
#3050
I do 2 scoops. I've heard any more than 3 in a day is overkill but this is just what I've heard, nothing to back it up.

I'd say getting the rest of your protein and calories from whole foods is better for you all around then adding more scoops etc.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
March 30 2012 12:11 GMT
#3051
yeah, isn't it one of the biggest misconceptions that post-workout shake is somehow essential or that something needs to be consumed immediately after the workout. unfortunately can't remember the LG related source I think I read this from.
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
March 30 2012 12:35 GMT
#3052
fml, a friend who just deadlifted 285kg x 3 last week for an all time pr just pulled 300kg x 2 yesterday.

he is 18 years old.

mad jelly
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
March 30 2012 13:01 GMT
#3053
On March 30 2012 21:35 sJarl wrote:
fml, a friend who just deadlifted 285kg x 3 last week for an all time pr just pulled 300kg x 2 yesterday.

he is 18 years old.

mad jelly

Imad. My grip is already failing at 105...

As for the dosage, I do 2 scoops of bcaa (about 30g) of which I consume about a third every other hour from waking up until lunch. Because Berkhan said so.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
March 30 2012 13:20 GMT
#3054
On March 30 2012 21:35 sJarl wrote:
fml, a friend who just deadlifted 285kg x 3 last week for an all time pr just pulled 300kg x 2 yesterday.

he is 18 years old.

mad jelly


what the hell man.. do you have testosterone in your tap water in iceland or something?
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 30 2012 13:33 GMT
#3055
On March 30 2012 22:20 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 21:35 sJarl wrote:
fml, a friend who just deadlifted 285kg x 3 last week for an all time pr just pulled 300kg x 2 yesterday.

he is 18 years old.

mad jelly


what the hell man.. do you have testosterone in your tap water in iceland or something?


Ya wtf, in the last powerlifting nationals the heaviest guy failed a 300kg pull, and he has been lifting weights since forever. Can't wait to be the first chilean at pulling 300, weighting less than 80 :p (ya, still 3-10 years most likely, if ever)
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
March 30 2012 14:01 GMT
#3056
Squatted 1.5x my bw 3x5 (255lb)! Honestly, I was thinking about how I wanted to post this before my last set and that's what drove me to get it
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Raidern
Profile Joined February 2005
Brazil3811 Posts
March 30 2012 14:04 GMT
#3057
i just pulled 100kg @ 76kg bw and I was happy with it lol because it's the first time i break the 100kg milestone in any exercise
For the Swarm!
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
March 30 2012 14:07 GMT
#3058
On March 30 2012 23:01 mordek wrote:
Squatted 1.5x my bw 3x5 (255lb)! Honestly, I was thinking about how I wanted to post this before my last set and that's what drove me to get it


On March 30 2012 23:04 Raidern wrote:
i just pulled 100kg @ 76kg bw and I was happy with it lol because it's the first time i break the 100kg milestone in any exercise


grats you two keep it up!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
March 30 2012 16:16 GMT
#3059
On March 30 2012 06:49 Hurricane wrote:
fuck curls, I pull 4 plates all day

and the fitness.... w/e it is at the Y asked me to do lighter deadlifts because it feels like an earthquake downstairs when I drop it from my knees. How about not putting the gym on the 2nd floor and get me a platform, I'm gonna pull 5plates before 2013 bitches.

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how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-30 17:25:45
March 30 2012 17:22 GMT
#3060
@ decaf

I had the same issue at the gym, they told me I broke all the lamps downstairs LOLOL

the solution is to buy 2 wooden pieces (or 1 if you don't pull sumo) so you can stack a bunch of rubber mats and put the wood base over it. U can drop the weight but it won't ruin the lives of people beneath. I read 2 used tires instead of mats is great aswell.

Wanted to update what I've been up to. After 13 weeks of squats(smolov) switched to a deadlift only routine. I'ts a high frequency/low volume specialization program, kinda what I did before when I started lifting. Goal is to pull x3 bodyweight without a belt by the end of 9th-12th week. Program goes as follows:

Monday: 147.5kgx1x5 (70% 1rm)
Tuesday: 147.5kgx1x7 (70% 1rm)
Wednesday: 147.5kgx1x9 (70% 1rm)
Thursday: 147.5kgx1x11 (70% 1rm)
Friday: 147.5kgx1x13 (70% 1rm)
Saturday: 147.5kgx1x15 (70% 1rm)

Next week, add 5kg and start over.
Next week the same.
Following do a light monday practice, and go for new 1rm. Use new 70% 1rm to start over.

Pros: No sore back
Improved technique by miles

Cons: everyone hates you (noise)
loading and unloading the fucking barbell -.-

Notice I'm cutting so low volume is perfect.

Also, everyone should read fantasy's interview. Amazing player and his work ethic is certainly applicable to weight lifting and life in general.
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