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kastoob
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia153 Posts
September 02 2012 10:06 GMT
#661
On August 30 2012 18:20 Hanakurena wrote:

http://www.atherosclerosis-journal.com/article/S0021-9150(12)00504-7/abstract
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2188265/Eating-egg-yolks-bad-smoking-speeding-coronary-artery-disease.html



http://www.lastwordonnothing.com/2012/08/21/egg-ceptionally-bad/
Hanakurena
Profile Joined August 2012
105 Posts
September 02 2012 12:58 GMT
#662
I am not responsible for news headlines. That study says what it says and doesn't say what it doesn't say. It was published in a mainstream paper dedicated to atherosclerosis and is brand new.

If you don't like something about that study, go find yourself another one. There's plenty.


As for alcohol and recovery, as long as you want one thing to be true, you are never going to be convinced of the opposite whatever the evidence actually points at.

You increase in fitness by absorbing training, not be enduring it. The workout is only meant so that you can rest and recover. When you throw in alcohol you are always going to be in a less ideal situation when resting is concerned. For the exact effects and details about dosages and how bad it is, you try to find out what papers say. But always there's a whole spectrum of results. Even if it is just a bit bad but definitely enough to avoid, that still means there's going to be studies that say they couldn't really find anything.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 02 2012 16:24 GMT
#663
How reliable is this?

Eating honey before bed is good for recovery

http://www.nmhoney.com/nmhoney/sub files/a spoonful of honey before bed.htm
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-02 18:12:37
September 02 2012 18:12 GMT
#664
On September 03 2012 01:24 Cambium wrote:
How reliable is this?

Eating honey before bed is good for recovery

http://www.nmhoney.com/nmhoney/sub files/a spoonful of honey before bed.htm


Lol, these things always sound like a hoax (and probably are), but I think I am gonna try it anyway . Two teaspoons of honey a day won't make a difference and it is quite delicious actually, so why not try it out.

Just wondering why it has to be honey, maybe the concentration of fructose is extremely high?
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 02 2012 19:40 GMT
#665
On September 02 2012 21:58 Hanakurena wrote:
I am not responsible for news headlines. That study says what it says and doesn't say what it doesn't say. It was published in a mainstream paper dedicated to atherosclerosis and is brand new.

If you don't like something about that study, go find yourself another one. There's plenty.


As for alcohol and recovery, as long as you want one thing to be true, you are never going to be convinced of the opposite whatever the evidence actually points at.

You increase in fitness by absorbing training, not be enduring it. The workout is only meant so that you can rest and recover. When you throw in alcohol you are always going to be in a less ideal situation when resting is concerned. For the exact effects and details about dosages and how bad it is, you try to find out what papers say. But always there's a whole spectrum of results. Even if it is just a bit bad but definitely enough to avoid, that still means there's going to be studies that say they couldn't really find anything.


Drinking raw alcohol (beer fucking sucks) in a moderate quantity allows you to train and not hurt your body so much.
No one is more commited than myself to train, but if you can't enjoy urself and find a balance in life training will eventually suck. I completed smolov, without roids, drinking moderately, so it can be done with almost no side effects.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
September 02 2012 20:06 GMT
#666
Last time I was out drinking I had maybe 10 shots of vodka and a couple of beers. No hangover or anything, felt perfectly fine but my training session was absolutely miserable, had to take like 20% off my rack pulls. So no thanks! Only on special occations .

I'll never understand how people like decaf can drink so much and still put up such high numbers.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
September 03 2012 03:48 GMT
#667
On September 03 2012 05:06 Sneakyz wrote:
Last time I was out drinking I had maybe 10 shots of vodka and a couple of beers. No hangover or anything, felt perfectly fine but my training session was absolutely miserable, had to take like 20% off my rack pulls. So no thanks! Only on special occations .

I'll never understand how people like decaf can drink so much and still put up such high numbers.


I wouldn't really call that moderate drinking lol.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 07 2012 13:38 GMT
#668
How's

5 eggs omelette
with paprika, cheese and pepper for dinner?

Anything I can mix this up with? I might think of making myself some "burguer" style beef thingies and mix it up with this.

Good?
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 07 2012 13:43 GMT
#669
On September 07 2012 22:38 funkie wrote:
How's

5 eggs omelette
with paprika, cheese and pepper for dinner?

Anything I can mix this up with? I might think of making myself some "burguer" style beef thingies and mix it up with this.

Good?


Bacon is amazing in an omelette. So are onions, green peppers, mushrooms.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
September 07 2012 13:53 GMT
#670
oh fuck yes. I shall buy bacon today and do this tomorrow :D (I used green paprika? for my omelette and always do, makes them taste so amazing).

thanks for suggestions! :D
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 07 2012 13:59 GMT
#671
On September 07 2012 22:53 funkie wrote:
oh fuck yes. I shall buy bacon today and do this tomorrow :D (I used green paprika? for my omelette and always do, makes them taste so amazing).

thanks for suggestions! :D


Uhm, just a tip, for the bacon, it's a good idea to have it cooked before you stick it in the omelet, since bacon takes longer to cook than egg, and the grease really destroys the consistency of the omelet.

This is common sense, but I HAVE seen people who don't think about that sort of thing.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 21:03:35
September 07 2012 21:02 GMT
#672
so after reading quite a bit of mark's daily apple arhives, i've got some questions.

1. i used to stir fry my veggies and meat with vegetable oil (canola and others) since it's the cheapest. but clearly, this shit is not good for me. now, should i stir fry them with butter? or just steam them with a bit of water? the butter option would obviously taste better, but if steaming them is healthier, i have no qualms about it, since to me, the veggies taste good either way.

2. ive got a big bag of flax seeds (parents got me a bunch of groceries when i moved into my apartment). what's the best way to eat these while getting the most out of them? do i have to crush them, like with a mortar and pestel? or soak them in water? and then what? just sprinkle a spoonful or two on my chicken or beef? i actually like the taste of flax a lot, so any way if fine. i just want to know the best way to get the most nutritional value out of them.

3. is there a difference between "organic" minerals and "inorganic" minerals? i did a bit of googling but didnt really find anythign that i trust a lot... i'd rather trust you guys. apparently, there might be a difference between minerals that are bonded to some molecule that has carbon in it, compared to those that arent? is there a difference between getting, lets say, sodium from eating celery and eating salt? besides the other nutritional benefits of celery, of course.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
September 07 2012 23:18 GMT
#673
On September 08 2012 06:02 ieatkids5 wrote:
so after reading quite a bit of mark's daily apple arhives, i've got some questions.

1. i used to stir fry my veggies and meat with vegetable oil (canola and others) since it's the cheapest. but clearly, this shit is not good for me. now, should i stir fry them with butter? or just steam them with a bit of water? the butter option would obviously taste better, but if steaming them is healthier, i have no qualms about it, since to me, the veggies taste good either way.

2. ive got a big bag of flax seeds (parents got me a bunch of groceries when i moved into my apartment). what's the best way to eat these while getting the most out of them? do i have to crush them, like with a mortar and pestel? or soak them in water? and then what? just sprinkle a spoonful or two on my chicken or beef? i actually like the taste of flax a lot, so any way if fine. i just want to know the best way to get the most nutritional value out of them.

3. is there a difference between "organic" minerals and "inorganic" minerals? i did a bit of googling but didnt really find anythign that i trust a lot... i'd rather trust you guys. apparently, there might be a difference between minerals that are bonded to some molecule that has carbon in it, compared to those that arent? is there a difference between getting, lets say, sodium from eating celery and eating salt? besides the other nutritional benefits of celery, of course.

1. Butter is fine, coconut oil is also great. Olive oil is okay but not preferred for cooking, especially in the high heat of a stir fry. Don't be afraid of fat; if you prefer cooking with it, cook with it.

2. Flax is way overrated from a nutritional standpoint (very poor conversion of the Omega-3 ALA to more beneficial DHA/EPA). You can crush them, grind them or just eat them straight.

3. Minerals are typically inorganic, but often you will find the organic salt of a certain mineral, say magnesium citrate (citrate is an organic molecule) as opposed to say, magnesium oxide. Usually organic salts of minerals are more bioaviable and more easily absorbed. This is important if you are supplementing--you want to look for the most bioavailable form. Although in general micronutrients in real food sources are the best absorbed, but it can be impractical in terms of the amount required to hit your targets.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 08 2012 00:01 GMT
#674
Good info ingenol.

Would also like to add that Lard and Ghee are good for cooking too.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 02:22:57
September 08 2012 02:20 GMT
#675
thanks ingenol and eshlow. cleared up a lot of things for me.next time im at the grocery store ill see if they have coconut oil.

and so if i just eat the flax seeds straight up, i wont just poop them out?

edit - just thought of another question. is there any nutritional difference between eating frozen strawberries and blueberries compared to fresh ones? it's a lot cheaper to buy packs of frozen ones, stick em in a blender with some whole milk and bananas, and then drink it up.and it's more convenient as well.
Hanakurena
Profile Joined August 2012
105 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-08 05:45:45
September 08 2012 05:43 GMT
#676
Fats that are solid at room temperature like butter are mainly satured fat while olive oil is unsatured. Therefore, olive oil is preferred. But they both contain about equal number of calories anyway.

So when you use fat make sure it counts. Don't soak your vegetables in olive oil because then you will make your low fat meal a medium fat meal without increasing the taste even a tiny bit. Better to use no or extremely limited amount of oil and use the fat you aren't consuming to indulge in something like chocolate.

Flax seeds are hard to digest without grinding them. So yeah that's what is preferable. Much beter omega 3 source than fish oil because it has both the oils and the fibers.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 08 2012 06:49 GMT
#677
Heading to college. Will be eating dorm food. Do any of you guys have any general recommendations. I'm trying to gain weight, if that matters.
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
September 08 2012 12:57 GMT
#678
On September 08 2012 15:49 Froadac wrote:
Heading to college. Will be eating dorm food. Do any of you guys have any general recommendations. I'm trying to gain weight, if that matters.

Eat hardboiled eggs instead of scrambled because the scrambled eggs are usually from a powdered mix and cooked in some manner of nutritionally awful vegetable, canola or soybean oil.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
September 08 2012 14:45 GMT
#679
On September 08 2012 11:20 ieatkids5 wrote:
thanks ingenol and eshlow. cleared up a lot of things for me.next time im at the grocery store ill see if they have coconut oil.

and so if i just eat the flax seeds straight up, i wont just poop them out?

edit - just thought of another question. is there any nutritional difference between eating frozen strawberries and blueberries compared to fresh ones? it's a lot cheaper to buy packs of frozen ones, stick em in a blender with some whole milk and bananas, and then drink it up.and it's more convenient as well.


Blending is like mechanical digestion so it frees up all of the stuff within the fruit.

Generally speaking, this is fine if you're looking to gain weight since taking in liquid calories is much easier... but if you're having blood sugar issues and things of that nature then freeing up all of the carbohydrates is like drinking a soda pretty much. Not good in that respect.

If you are going to do that you should add in some good fats like coconut milk to blunt the rate of absorption of the sugars so you don't have a sugar crash

On September 08 2012 15:49 Froadac wrote:
Heading to college. Will be eating dorm food. Do any of you guys have any general recommendations. I'm trying to gain weight, if that matters.


Generally, aim to eat real foods.

Like ingenol said, things can often not be what they seem since the scrambled eggs might not actually be scrambled eggs by itself. If you have any doubts, just ask the people behind the counters how they prepare the food nicely and they will be willing to tell you.

I don't think most colleges offer whole milk so that may be a problem. You can always ask though.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 08 2012 23:04 GMT
#680
What foods would be real in dorms
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