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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 13:06:48
March 04 2012 13:03 GMT
#981
Is there anything I should know about progressing standing OHP w/ dumbbells? I recently switched pressing exercises to dumbbells to see if my shoulder likes them more. Currently doing SS style 3x5 linear progression, and last time I barely made 3x5x22.5kg. I think if I do with 25kg dumbbells next time I can barely do 4 reps each set, is this ok? Should I completely scrap linear progression for OHP if I can't microload, and do 5/3/1 style or whatever?
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 22:54:25
March 04 2012 22:36 GMT
#982
What should I be spending my money on for a home gym set-up? I want to keep the entire thing under $1k but I'm willing to spend a bit more if it means I'll get a quality product that will last.

I'm looking at buying:
-power rack
-bench
-bar
-around ~350lb in weights
As well as some misc items such as dip belt for weighted chins, and rubber mat for the rack.

It seems like cheap quality plates are hard to come by in Canada. I'm looking at used Ivankos for $1/lb which seems like the best deal atm. There are some cheaper ones but not by much, maybe $0.60-0.70/lb.
I'm going to take a look at a used power rack next weekend for $200. Quality might not be the best but good power racks are so pricey and I figured I can upgrade once I have a bit more spare cash.
There's a decent looking bench at a local store for $100 which I'll probably get here.
There's a ton of cheap used bars out there as well as some more expensive ones for $250-300. For someone who's not that strong (315x5 DL), is the bar really that important? I also dabble in oly lifting but that'll be on hold until I can build a proper lifting platform. The platform probably won't happen until I move out of my parents' house since I won't be able to get it out of the basement.
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Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 00:03:16
March 05 2012 00:01 GMT
#983
I would look into a roman chair. Would be great for doing assistance stuff like abs/hyper extensions and possibly GHRs

It's definitely not a necessity, it's just the one thing missing from the gym I go to that I would find useful (other than bumper plates or a platform).

If the rack doesn't have a chip up bar definitely look into getting one.
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lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
March 05 2012 01:11 GMT
#984
On March 05 2012 07:36 infinity21 wrote:
What should I be spending my money on for a home gym set-up? I want to keep the entire thing under $1k but I'm willing to spend a bit more if it means I'll get a quality product that will last.

I'm looking at buying:
-power rack
-bench
-bar
-around ~350lb in weights
As well as some misc items such as dip belt for weighted chins, and rubber mat for the rack.

It seems like cheap quality plates are hard to come by in Canada. I'm looking at used Ivankos for $1/lb which seems like the best deal atm. There are some cheaper ones but not by much, maybe $0.60-0.70/lb.
I'm going to take a look at a used power rack next weekend for $200. Quality might not be the best but good power racks are so pricey and I figured I can upgrade once I have a bit more spare cash.
There's a decent looking bench at a local store for $100 which I'll probably get here.
There's a ton of cheap used bars out there as well as some more expensive ones for $250-300. For someone who's not that strong (315x5 DL), is the bar really that important? I also dabble in oly lifting but that'll be on hold until I can build a proper lifting platform. The platform probably won't happen until I move out of my parents' house since I won't be able to get it out of the basement.


Don't screw around with cheap bars. A decent bar is so much better then those crappy hex-bolt on end bars, and will actually last you.
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 01:24:11
March 05 2012 01:15 GMT
#985
The rack does have chin-up bar thankfully. Going to spend about $900 this time around.
I'll probably upgrade the rack & bar in a couple of years to Rogue R3/R4 and their Rogue bar.
@lyAsakura: I'll be getting a used York bar which should be decent quality. I'll definitely invest in a better bar in a couple of years when I'm stronger. Someone made a point that having a beater bar is good for doing stuff like rack pulls so I think it's a good way to go.
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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 05 2012 03:59 GMT
#986
Question:

I spent this past weekend surfing. It was fun. I enjoyed it. I'm learning a lot, but I'm not going to give up the gym for it. Of course I'm super sore. What do I need to do to recover properly so that I can still go hard in the gym tomorrow (SS)? Should I be eating everything in sight? Sleeping like a baby? Should I skip tomorrow and just go to the gym Tuesday? Let me know please...
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
March 05 2012 04:48 GMT
#987
On March 05 2012 12:59 nemY wrote:
Question:

I spent this past weekend surfing. It was fun. I enjoyed it. I'm learning a lot, but I'm not going to give up the gym for it. Of course I'm super sore. What do I need to do to recover properly so that I can still go hard in the gym tomorrow (SS)? Should I be eating everything in sight? Sleeping like a baby? Should I skip tomorrow and just go to the gym Tuesday? Let me know please...

Eat, sleep, etc.

Might not be eenough but who knows
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-05 21:47:12
March 05 2012 21:41 GMT
#988
On March 05 2012 07:36 infinity21 wrote:
What should I be spending my money on for a home gym set-up? I want to keep the entire thing under $1k but I'm willing to spend a bit more if it means I'll get a quality product that will last.

I'm looking at buying:
-power rack
-bench
-bar
-around ~350lb in weights
As well as some misc items such as dip belt for weighted chins, and rubber mat for the rack.

It seems like cheap quality plates are hard to come by in Canada. I'm looking at used Ivankos for $1/lb which seems like the best deal atm. There are some cheaper ones but not by much, maybe $0.60-0.70/lb.
I'm going to take a look at a used power rack next weekend for $200. Quality might not be the best but good power racks are so pricey and I figured I can upgrade once I have a bit more spare cash.
There's a decent looking bench at a local store for $100 which I'll probably get here.
There's a ton of cheap used bars out there as well as some more expensive ones for $250-300. For someone who's not that strong (315x5 DL), is the bar really that important? I also dabble in oly lifting but that'll be on hold until I can build a proper lifting platform. The platform probably won't happen until I move out of my parents' house since I won't be able to get it out of the basement.


I was thinking about doing the same thing, then I realized a dumbbell set is pretty necessary too. And there's no real cheap way to buy dumbbells. As much as I hate to say it buying the bowflex 1090 dubbells

http://www.bowflex.ca/bowflex_home_gyms_ca/accessories/freeweights/prdcd~710000/Bowflex SelectTech 1090 Dumbbells.jsp


Is one of the cheapest ways to get yourself a dumbbell set. And even then you're paying $600 just for that. I don't think you can only use a bar if you're serious about lifting in the long term, you really limit yourself a lot. $500 for weights and a bar, $300 for a rack, $150 for a bench, $600 for dumbbells are the main things you need I think. Dunno if it's going to be a worthwhile investment considering my gym membership is only $200 a year and a five minute walk from my house...
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
March 05 2012 21:46 GMT
#989
I know there is some 50mm dumbbells so you can use regular barbell weights, have you looked into those?
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 05 2012 21:49 GMT
#990
On March 06 2012 06:41 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2012 07:36 infinity21 wrote:
What should I be spending my money on for a home gym set-up? I want to keep the entire thing under $1k but I'm willing to spend a bit more if it means I'll get a quality product that will last.

I'm looking at buying:
-power rack
-bench
-bar
-around ~350lb in weights
As well as some misc items such as dip belt for weighted chins, and rubber mat for the rack.

It seems like cheap quality plates are hard to come by in Canada. I'm looking at used Ivankos for $1/lb which seems like the best deal atm. There are some cheaper ones but not by much, maybe $0.60-0.70/lb.
I'm going to take a look at a used power rack next weekend for $200. Quality might not be the best but good power racks are so pricey and I figured I can upgrade once I have a bit more spare cash.
There's a decent looking bench at a local store for $100 which I'll probably get here.
There's a ton of cheap used bars out there as well as some more expensive ones for $250-300. For someone who's not that strong (315x5 DL), is the bar really that important? I also dabble in oly lifting but that'll be on hold until I can build a proper lifting platform. The platform probably won't happen until I move out of my parents' house since I won't be able to get it out of the basement.


I was thinking about doing the same thing, then I realized a dumbbell set is pretty necessary too. And there's no real cheap way to buy dumbbells. As much as I hate to say it buying the bowflex 1090 dubbells

http://www.bowflex.ca/bowflex_home_gyms_ca/accessories/freeweights/prdcd~710000/Bowflex SelectTech 1090 Dumbbells.jsp


Is one of the cheapest ways to get yourself a dumbbell set. And even then you're paying $600 just for that. I don't think you can only use a bar if you're serious about lifting in the long term, you really limit yourself a lot. $500 for weights and a bar, $300 for a rack, $150 for a bench, $600 for dumbbells are the main things you need I think. Dunno if it's going to be a worthwhile investment considering my gym membership is only $200 a year and a five minute walk from my house...


I never use dumbells. I don't see them necessary for anything.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 05 2012 21:51 GMT
#991
On March 06 2012 06:49 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 06:41 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On March 05 2012 07:36 infinity21 wrote:
What should I be spending my money on for a home gym set-up? I want to keep the entire thing under $1k but I'm willing to spend a bit more if it means I'll get a quality product that will last.

I'm looking at buying:
-power rack
-bench
-bar
-around ~350lb in weights
As well as some misc items such as dip belt for weighted chins, and rubber mat for the rack.

It seems like cheap quality plates are hard to come by in Canada. I'm looking at used Ivankos for $1/lb which seems like the best deal atm. There are some cheaper ones but not by much, maybe $0.60-0.70/lb.
I'm going to take a look at a used power rack next weekend for $200. Quality might not be the best but good power racks are so pricey and I figured I can upgrade once I have a bit more spare cash.
There's a decent looking bench at a local store for $100 which I'll probably get here.
There's a ton of cheap used bars out there as well as some more expensive ones for $250-300. For someone who's not that strong (315x5 DL), is the bar really that important? I also dabble in oly lifting but that'll be on hold until I can build a proper lifting platform. The platform probably won't happen until I move out of my parents' house since I won't be able to get it out of the basement.


I was thinking about doing the same thing, then I realized a dumbbell set is pretty necessary too. And there's no real cheap way to buy dumbbells. As much as I hate to say it buying the bowflex 1090 dubbells

http://www.bowflex.ca/bowflex_home_gyms_ca/accessories/freeweights/prdcd~710000/Bowflex SelectTech 1090 Dumbbells.jsp


Is one of the cheapest ways to get yourself a dumbbell set. And even then you're paying $600 just for that. I don't think you can only use a bar if you're serious about lifting in the long term, you really limit yourself a lot. $500 for weights and a bar, $300 for a rack, $150 for a bench, $600 for dumbbells are the main things you need I think. Dunno if it's going to be a worthwhile investment considering my gym membership is only $200 a year and a five minute walk from my house...


I never use dumbells. I don't see them necessary for anything.


I know you are very into powerlifting, but generally speaking at some point atleast 95% of people who do heavy compound lifts will switch over to something else, just keep that in mind when making your gym, yes you have people like decafchicken and gotunk who don't need them... anyways. (:
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 05 2012 21:54 GMT
#992
Also checking out your local ads in kijiji or something is very good.

I quickly took a look at what there is in Calgary and I see a...

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-sporting-goods-exercise-exercise-equipment-FULL-GYM-SETUP-Squat-Rack-Bench-Weights-Pulleys-etc-W0QQAdIdZ360275308

A pretty decent setup for $750 dollars, which you could probably bring down to $600, which is definitely cheaper than buying everything seperately or new.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 05 2012 22:16 GMT
#993
@FiWi: I dunno, I've never felt the need to use dumbbells before so it's not really a must for me. I think I should be able to get by without having a dumbbell set by changing other variables in my routine if I stall.

Kijiji is great for finding good deals. I'm buying pretty much everything through kijiji atm except for a flat bench and 5 & 10lb plates because I haven't found good ones yet. I'm also going to order a dip belt & a lifting belt but I would've gotten them even if I stayed at my current gym. The home gym will pay for itself in 2 years and most of the items will hold their value pretty well (especially the plates) so it's not like I'm losing money.

As for that ad, you should consider that the weight/bar are standard, not olympic so you won't be able to use that much weight.
Official Entusman #21
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 06 2012 03:42 GMT
#994
Son of a... Just realized that the power rack that I had my eyes on is 88" tall and my basement ceiling is only 90" D:
Definitely not enough room to put it up especially since I need 1.5" of plywood underneath. Hmm this is going to be a challenge. I could always ask Rogue to custom build a 7' rack instead of 7'6"...
Official Entusman #21
Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
March 06 2012 17:35 GMT
#995
My girlfriend has been doing stronglifts for about 4~ months now, and has recently started noticing some lower back pain. She has been working through it hoping it would go away but it continues to bother her. What should she do?

I thought maybe taking 2 weeks to deload and work on light weights (maintain muscle and focus on minor tweaks to form), while incorporating some yoga/mobility work might help. Does this sound good? If so what are some good mobility work for the squat and deadlift?

Thanks for any answers
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Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
March 07 2012 01:37 GMT
#996
Depends entirely on what kind of pain it is. If it's spinal I would highly recommend a visit to the doctor. If it's muscular light weights helped me recover from pulling my lower back pretty quick (~3 weeks I think).

Either way I would definitely take a close look at squat/deadlift form.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 07 2012 01:39 GMT
#997
Q: I recently bought fish oil to see if it helps with recovery. It was cheap and they had 1 "model", 60 capsules. Each serving is 2 capsules, with 800mg phytosterols, 647mg EPA and 253mg DHA. What dosage do you recomend?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 07 2012 02:48 GMT
#998
holy fuck. Grabbed the ivanko plates today and dad flipped out when I came home. He can't understand how someone can lift 400lb of weight and thought I was joking. I told him I was seriously going to lift 400 lbs but he thought it was a joke... Yeah going to get out of the house as soon as I can...
Official Entusman #21
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
March 07 2012 03:08 GMT
#999
On March 07 2012 11:48 infinity21 wrote:
holy fuck. Grabbed the ivanko plates today and dad flipped out when I came home. He can't understand how someone can lift 400lb of weight and thought I was joking. I told him I was seriously going to lift 400 lbs but he thought it was a joke... Yeah going to get out of the house as soon as I can...


Pics? =)
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
March 07 2012 03:16 GMT
#1000
lol I'll put them up in a couple of days. Not really in a mood to go and take pics of plates I can't use right now
They're not in the best condition, with the paint chipped off a bit but I didn't see any serious rust spots
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