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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 30 2013 13:59 GMT
#3261
Yeah, you could get up to 129kg squat for reps in 6 months and then not squat for the next year like someone I know >.>
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 23:40:48
October 30 2013 23:40 GMT
#3262
It turns out I'm getting a different job than I was originally planning, so I have different physical standards to meet than I expected (they are easier now). By my start date (probably early February) I need to be able to run 1.5 miles in 14 minutes (I've done much better than that already), do 33 pushups (I'm 95% there), and do ~40 situps (haven't been doing them much, but probably comparable to how close I am with pushups). 5 weeks later I need to be able to run the same distance in 12:53 (I've done this once already on the treadmill), ~40 pushups, and ~50 situps. The pushups and situps must be completed continuously within 2 minutes.

I'm going to avoid doing most of the arm/shoulder exercises I was doing because it seems like I was hurting my right shoulder pretty badly, and I'm not sure exactly from what. I'm going to rely on pushups pretty much exclusively as the method of improving my pushups, and do the same thing with situps. I still plan to do squats though because they haven't been giving me any trouble. Once I'm 100% sure my shoulder is better I'm also going to try doing deadlifts for the first time.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
October 31 2013 15:16 GMT
#3263
What kind of pain in your shoulder? when does it hurt? Also, I've hurt my shoulder a few times and it never affected my deadlifting.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
October 31 2013 15:31 GMT
#3264
It hurt when I brought my arm back on the side of my body... on IRC it was suggested I ensure whenever I bench that I keep my elbows tucked in and that they don't stick out from the side of my body... it definitely could have been that. Alternately, it might have been full-weight dips I was doing, or the rope (wishbone shape) pulldown exercise.
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
October 31 2013 16:39 GMT
#3265
Yeah if i bench with my elbows flared out it usually hurts a bit in my shoulder or elbow. Keep em nice and tight with your back and rotator cuffs engaged. Either way it shouldn't affect your ability to work on deadlifts.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
October 31 2013 17:11 GMT
#3266
You might be right, but I don't want to take any chances. Also, I don't want to introduce too many variables at once as it will make it harder to identify where my mistakes are. My shoulder feels 99-100% better so I should be good to go soon, anyway.

BTW I was forced to walk a lot in DC in my dress shoes and... I didn't realize the shoes rub against the back of my feet (I normally only wear them for standing around at formal parties). I kinda rubbed off the skin behind my ankle so I'm taking a few days off from running!
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 01 2013 00:21 GMT
#3267
Since this is in the sports section now, is it still specifically fitness q&a? If so, a title change should probably happen for clarity sake.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
November 01 2013 01:25 GMT
#3268
On November 01 2013 09:21 Najda wrote:
Since this is in the sports section now, is it still specifically fitness q&a? If so, a title change should probably happen for clarity sake.

I renamed it... if someone has a suggestion for a better name let me know.
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 01 2013 01:27 GMT
#3269
On November 01 2013 10:25 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 09:21 Najda wrote:
Since this is in the sports section now, is it still specifically fitness q&a? If so, a title change should probably happen for clarity sake.

I renamed it... if someone has a suggestion for a better name let me know.


That's exactly what I was thinking, couldn't think of anything better.
Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
November 03 2013 20:28 GMT
#3270
On October 30 2013 22:39 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 11:12 Earll wrote:
So yay, just broke 100kg barrier (on squats) still far away from having actual respectable numbers but have been looking forrward to breaching this barrier for a while. I noticed lately my squats have started to become reallysort of heavy and notice my Form is not as good as its supposed to be, especially today on the last set i was way more bent over than I should be, so im figuring i will just stay at 100kg for a little bit, maybe until my deadlift has caught up to my squat? (its currently at 90kg so that would be like 1.5 weeks) and then start increasing again as I am a bit more comfortable\stronger\better at having good form ? :v


I agree with Snuggles you should probably deload. It's okay if it feels heavy, it should, but if your form is suffering then you are much more prone to injury which is a much larger setback than any deload would be. Don't worry about DL being lower than your squat, the comparisons only are relevant when you'v started plateauing in the lifts.



Yeah I know the deadlift is 10kg lower because it started 10kg lower (both started at same, do them every work out, and go up 2.5 kg per work out) How much of a de-load should I do\how do I do that? Just put my lifts back to like 90~95 kg and start doing 2.5 increments from there again, doing everything else normally?
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phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-05 18:35:42
November 05 2013 18:35 GMT
#3271
On November 04 2013 05:28 Earll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2013 22:39 Najda wrote:
On October 30 2013 11:12 Earll wrote:
So yay, just broke 100kg barrier (on squats) still far away from having actual respectable numbers but have been looking forrward to breaching this barrier for a while. I noticed lately my squats have started to become reallysort of heavy and notice my Form is not as good as its supposed to be, especially today on the last set i was way more bent over than I should be, so im figuring i will just stay at 100kg for a little bit, maybe until my deadlift has caught up to my squat? (its currently at 90kg so that would be like 1.5 weeks) and then start increasing again as I am a bit more comfortable\stronger\better at having good form ? :v


I agree with Snuggles you should probably deload. It's okay if it feels heavy, it should, but if your form is suffering then you are much more prone to injury which is a much larger setback than any deload would be. Don't worry about DL being lower than your squat, the comparisons only are relevant when you'v started plateauing in the lifts.



Yeah I know the deadlift is 10kg lower because it started 10kg lower (both started at same, do them every work out, and go up 2.5 kg per work out) How much of a de-load should I do\how do I do that? Just put my lifts back to like 90~95 kg and start doing 2.5 increments from there again, doing everything else normally?


If you're following a LP program (SS, SL, or anything similar) then resets are really easy.

If you "miss" the lift (which you can really define however you want, whether that's not getting the reps, or it's having really ugly form such that you feel the reps don't count) you repeat the weight next workout. If it still doesn't work, you give it one more chance. After "three strikes" you're out, and you reset the weight (only on that specific lift) by taking off 10-15% (so go back to 85-90kg) and start over again from there, adding weight as you regularly would during each workout.

If you keep doing this for a long enough time, and assuming you have no preexisting injuries, form problems, or a really weird body type, you'll balance out your lifts more or less - you're going to need to reset less often on your deadlift than your squat, for example, so no matter the starting points it will work itself out.

This is all in the SS book.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
November 06 2013 16:52 GMT
#3272
I have a question about stretching: when is the best time to stretch? is it ok to stretch after strength training (some guy at the gym told me not to), or should I do it beforehand or even only on offdays?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 17:04:51
November 06 2013 17:03 GMT
#3273
My elbow hurts when I do pushups right now. I haven't really done much in a few days that could be a cause. What do I do?

On November 07 2013 01:52 Zafrumi wrote:
I have a question about stretching: when is the best time to stretch? is it ok to stretch after strength training (some guy at the gym told me not to), or should I do it beforehand or even only on offdays?

I've heard not to stretch before strength training; stretch after, and/or on off days.
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skindzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
Chile5114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 17:04:18
November 06 2013 17:04 GMT
#3274
Dynamic stretching before workout, static after. Supposedly static stretching before working out makes you more prone to injuries.
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 18:04:07
November 06 2013 18:02 GMT
#3275
On November 07 2013 02:03 micronesia wrote:
My elbow hurts when I do pushups right now. I haven't really done much in a few days that could be a cause. What do I do?


What part of your elbow? It's likely either 'tennis elbow' or 'golfers elbow', I've forgotten the technical terms, but look it up and see if you identify with either one.

I've recently been getting over my golfer's elbow due to holding pads incorrectly in kickboxing, but it was just mild pain so all I did was a massage whenever I felt pain and corrected my technique and it was fine.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
November 06 2013 19:28 GMT
#3276
I have no idea how to identify my elbow pain... it is generally on the pinky side (as opposed to thumb side) of the elbow, towards the back of the arm.
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 06 2013 19:37 GMT
#3277
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Is this the area you are feeling pain?
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24777 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-06 19:46:09
November 06 2013 19:45 GMT
#3278
Najda, it is hard to tell because that photo is shown from the front, and I feel it more in the back. I just tried a few more pushups and it didn't seem to bother me though so hopefully it just went away. I remembered I actually did play tennis a few days ago, but we just screwed around... didn't play a whole lot, and I only use my left hand for backhands, so I don't know if that is actually an explanation. If the problem persists I'll let you know.
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 06 2013 19:52 GMT
#3279
On November 07 2013 04:45 micronesia wrote:
Najda, it is hard to tell because that photo is shown from the front, and I feel it more in the back. I just tried a few more pushups and it didn't seem to bother me though so hopefully it just went away. I remembered I actually did play tennis a few days ago, but we just screwed around... didn't play a whole lot, and I only use my left hand for backhands, so I don't know if that is actually an explanation. If the problem persists I'll let you know.


One of the causes for golfer's elbow is forcing your wrist back in an unnatural manner, which tennis could be the cause of. Just take it easy and be mindful of that and the pain should go away.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
November 06 2013 20:57 GMT
#3280
On November 07 2013 01:52 Zafrumi wrote:
I have a question about stretching: when is the best time to stretch? is it ok to stretch after strength training (some guy at the gym told me not to), or should I do it beforehand or even only on offdays?


Yoga in the morning before you shower is the best thing I ever started doing.

Also consider gentle static stretching after your workout if you have time, or before bed, but then be careful it's not intense enough to wake you up.
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