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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On February 06 2011 14:54 Alexson wrote: Eating junk food and lots of protein while bulking is good right..? cause it shouldn't matter where your calories come from.. A calorie is not just a calorie. With that said, dirty bulking works fine. You'll get more fat on you while on a dirty bulk, but if that's not a concern for you, it's easier to do than a clean bulk. | ||
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FyRe_DragOn
Canada2056 Posts
thnx for the explanation eshlow! pretty much all my olympic lift questions are answered now, now i just have to learn them! :D | ||
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
Age: 19 || Height: 5'11" || Weight: 225lbs. Starting Date: 2/7/2011 || Goal Date: June 2011 Training goals --There is a half-marathon in Mid May that I want to complete. (dont care about the time, just completion) Id also like to lose roughly 40-50 lbs. Nutrition goals -- No pop, no fast food, no sweets. they are an evil burden that is nearly impossible to escape. Misc goals -- To fuckin catch em' all | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On February 06 2011 14:42 eshlow wrote: Power cleans is basically the low skilled version of the clean where you can get explosive training without the flexibility/mobility, time commitment, and likely thousands of hours of coaching you would need to get anywhere close to a good clean movement. Same with the snatch. That's why you have most of hte power sports like football having their players do power cleans.... because their focus is not to lift heavy weights over their heads which you can lift more with a clean. Their focus is to get strong/explosive for football. So the lower skill version works fine for these types of purposes. If you're interested in learning clean/snatch/etc the best analogy is basically that it's gymnastics with a barbell. It's like learning how to do handstands, flipping, tumbling, etc but with heavy weights. You get strong and explosive.. and it requires good mobility and skill to do. lol, that wasnt a good answer... they both work explosiveness. In fact, I'd say clean/snatch actually work more power than the power versions because you can lift heavier weights with each (therefore at set amount of reps you'll be more powerful/explosive with a heavier weight) Haha yeah i was on my phone. What i meant to say was that they emphasize the second pull more as you need more speed/power to get the weight up higher. I do feel like the full clean and snatch are better but supplementing with the power versions is a good idea. On February 06 2011 13:11 Warrior Madness wrote: Hey decaf I don't know if someone's asked already but do you work out your abs? If so, what kind of exercises do you do? I don't do any ab specific work outside of maybe some planks to help with my SI joint. Clean and jerks + snatches + squats have given me, if i dare say so, a rather decent set of abs and overall core strength. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
I was out at a private party with some friends. As we were leaving, some people we had turned away earlier (who ended up at a party next door) were also leaving. They decided to throw snowballs at us. Thinking it was good fun, I threw one back. Guy I threw it at got angry, tackled me in the middle of the street (remarkably cleanly I might add, wrapped me up right at mid thigh, I went straight down). After I was down, he tried to jump my buddy, I got up, pushed him away from my friend. He took a second look at me/us, and must not have liked what he was seeing, because he decided to pull right out of there afterwards. "That's our ride" were his words, to a parked car that had been there the whole time. I may not be quite the physical specimen that I could be right now, but the extra pounds I've put on since august definitely came in handy. Originally, I wouldn't have been able to hit the kid backl, and I'd definitely have pushed my shoulder out of the socket falling on pavement. Padding, and a bit of bulk bros, I like it. Time for more working out, so they won't even be able to start that shit in the first place next time. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
Some kids (friends of a friend so they were never gonna fight me) were drunkenly telling me "wow dude i'd never fuck with someone your size" which is weird for me because i never really saw myself as "that big guy" before now. I literally havent even put on weight in the last year. just gotten a lot wider from oly lifting. big traps and back = scary :D Huge fucking cat fight. was hilarious. obviously all the guys tried to start shit, so i sat some some guy down that was headed towards my friend. He tried to get back up and i just pushed him down and literally said "stay." like a dog. man i need to stop drinking so much. anyways we were leaving and some douche bag in a wife beater and neon running shorts came at my friend. was the greatest thing i've ever seen. My buddy ducks the first swing, straight double leg take down, one hit knockout. it was awesome to watch. | ||
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
Yes. And this time I read it I tried to pinpoint exactly where I was having problems. As far as I can tell, the SI joint on my right side is the one causing problems. So I tried doing the SI joint manipulation thing and I think it feels a little bit better now. Off to the gym now :-D | ||
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Alexson
Belarus293 Posts
This might be good to put in the OP, found it on 4chan's fit board. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On February 06 2011 14:54 Alexson wrote: Eating junk food and lots of protein while bulking is good right..? cause it shouldn't matter where your calories come from.. Last time I knew I'm the only one in this thread allowed to dirty bulk. So step it up and start using fitday  | ||
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decafchicken
United States20168 Posts
On February 06 2011 19:17 sJarl wrote: Last time I knew I'm the only one in this thread allowed to dirty bulk. So step it up and start using fitday clean bulking = soooo much better. get huge and ripped? PLEASE AND THANKS | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On February 06 2011 19:32 decafchicken wrote: clean bulking = soooo much better. get huge and ripped? PLEASE AND THANKS So true. edit: will be plugging todays eating into fitday...I have a bad feeling about this. | ||
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Japan926 Posts
On February 06 2011 19:32 decafchicken wrote: clean bulking = soooo much better. get huge and ripped? PLEASE AND THANKS Of course, clean/dirty should not be made into some sort of dichotomy ... there are certainly two poles, but I think most bodybuilders fall somewhere between the two such as 80% clean 20% dirty. I tend to aim for this 80/20 ratio of clean and dirty, and it just makes things much easier for me in the end. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On February 06 2011 14:54 Slithe wrote: + Show Spoiler [UFC spoiler] + Hey Eshlow, I wanna be able to kick like Anderson Silva. How can I possibly achieve such a thing? + Show Spoiler + But seriously... go hire Steven Seagal LOL Ok really seriously... get really flexible and strong and learn how to kick from an NFL punter or soccer player... On February 06 2011 19:02 Alexson wrote: http://www.liamrosen.com/fitness.html This might be good to put in the OP, found it on 4chan's fit board. I already added that into the extra nutrition links. But some of his dietary advice is fallicious. Saturated fats, for example, are fine and healthy to eat. And obviously don't really recommend pastas, cereals, etc. It'd a decent guide. The ones I included in the main section are better though. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/20968/photos/rand/IMG_1867%20%28Small%29.JPG) | ||
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Alexson
Belarus293 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
I feel so weak  I'm going to break world records when I get back to the weights, I swear. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On February 07 2011 02:11 Alexson wrote: Would PB&J sandwiches be "dirty?" And if they are should I just use PB alone...? I really want to know all the small things about fitness lol.. Technically, they're all "dirty" since all 3 components are processed foods. It is a dense source of kcals that's not as terrible as something like McD's though.......... but whole milk is also extremely dense and healthier to boot and easier to cram down the kcals. Which if you can tolerate milk you want to whole milk it up if you're trying to gain weights | ||
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Alexson
Belarus293 Posts
On February 07 2011 03:16 eshlow wrote: Technically, they're all "dirty" since all 3 components are processed foods. It is a dense source of kcals that's not as terrible as something like McD's though.......... but whole milk is also extremely dense and healthier to boot and easier to cram down the kcals. Which if you can tolerate milk you want to whole milk it up if you're trying to gain weights Chocolate milk is fine right.. not too much sugars? I have a glass of milk with every meal. Does this look good so far for a 5'8" 15 year old weighing 150 lbs.. this is just breakfast. 3 large eggs 1 medium banana 1 glass of milk | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
-------------- rofl.... found this in JWD's new thread | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
On February 06 2011 17:36 decafchicken wrote: I don't do any ab specific work outside of maybe some planks to help with my SI joint. Clean and jerks + snatches + squats have given me, if i dare say so, a rather decent set of abs and overall core strength. Thought so. I thought it was either that or some weighted ab work out. So uhh, anyone wanna elaborate the pros of plache training? Is it just a personal goal thing, or a flexibility thing? What advantages does that have over linear progressions? | ||
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