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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 19:43:10
January 26 2011 19:42 GMT
#921
I recently started getting hip joint pain when doing squats and I'm about parallel. I get the pain whether I have weight on my back or not. Somehow I feel it's connected to my lower back getting hurt on deadlifts. It's still a bit achy, so I think I'll skip squats and deadlifts until it's gone.

sigh.
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vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
January 26 2011 19:46 GMT
#922
So I've been lifting barefoot lately, because when I did 170lb squats with the least cushioning shoes I could find, I still had a tiny balance issue (which led me to looking up optimal shoes, and choosing to go barefoot until (if?) the gym yells at me about it). Happily surprised at the significant change in stability, especially since I wasn't using nike shocks or anything like that

But for my birthday my dad got me adidas combat III's, which are apparently wrestling shoes. I'm fine sticking with barefoot until I start incorporating powercleans and front squats- which if I understand correctly are optimally performed with raised heel, hard sole shoes. Any suggestions on keeping/returning these? I'd be willing to put more money over the $40 these go for as well, although I don't want to go as far as $200 as I've seen some lifting shoes go for.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 20:00:58
January 26 2011 19:55 GMT
#923
I still often squat and deadlift barefoot unless i already have my weightlifting shoes on (which i always use when cleaning and snatching)
These are the shoes i have:
http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-equipment/rogue-do-wins.php

and here's a good place to check out your options
http://buyweightliftingshoes.com/

...or some of these 200$ sexpots
http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=315815/3976.0?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googleshopping

A comical review of the nike shoe:
Cons: Weight - surprisingly heavy, almost boot-like. My most recent shoe was the Nike Free Dynamic TR ... this shoe probably weighs twice as much (at least), but you get used to it. Awkward to walk in, virtually impossible to run in (the power bridge doesn't let my foot roll normally). The hard sole is noisy when walking on hard surfaces like concrete or tile.

Wtf how much walking is this kid doing in them? why is he comparing them to nike frees? hahaha
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
January 26 2011 20:23 GMT
#924
On January 27 2011 04:55 decafchicken wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I still often squat and deadlift barefoot unless i already have my weightlifting shoes on (which i always use when cleaning and snatching)
These are the shoes i have:
http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-equipment/rogue-do-wins.php

and here's a good place to check out your options
http://buyweightliftingshoes.com/

...or some of these 200$ sexpots
http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=315815/3976.0?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googleshopping

A comical review of the nike shoe:
Cons: Weight - surprisingly heavy, almost boot-like. My most recent shoe was the Nike Free Dynamic TR ... this shoe probably weighs twice as much (at least), but you get used to it. Awkward to walk in, virtually impossible to run in (the power bridge doesn't let my foot roll normally). The hard sole is noisy when walking on hard surfaces like concrete or tile.

Wtf how much walking is this kid doing in them? why is he comparing them to nike frees? hahaha


Awesome, thanks. Any reason I shouldn't consider the rogue 2009 over the 2010? Or wait for the price drop when the 2011s come out?

Anyways if I were to get $200 shoes, I'd get the adidas http://buyweightliftingshoes.com/reviews/adidas-adistar-weightlifting/ just because I think they look the best
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
January 26 2011 20:31 GMT
#925
On January 27 2011 05:23 vicariouscheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 04:55 decafchicken wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

I still often squat and deadlift barefoot unless i already have my weightlifting shoes on (which i always use when cleaning and snatching)
These are the shoes i have:
http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-equipment/rogue-do-wins.php

and here's a good place to check out your options
http://buyweightliftingshoes.com/

...or some of these 200$ sexpots
http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=315815/3976.0?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googleshopping

A comical review of the nike shoe:
Cons: Weight - surprisingly heavy, almost boot-like. My most recent shoe was the Nike Free Dynamic TR ... this shoe probably weighs twice as much (at least), but you get used to it. Awkward to walk in, virtually impossible to run in (the power bridge doesn't let my foot roll normally). The hard sole is noisy when walking on hard surfaces like concrete or tile.

Wtf how much walking is this kid doing in them? why is he comparing them to nike frees? hahaha


Awesome, thanks. Any reason I shouldn't consider the rogue 2009 over the 2010? Or wait for the price drop when the 2011s come out?

Anyways if I were to get $200 shoes, I'd get the adidas http://buyweightliftingshoes.com/reviews/adidas-adistar-weightlifting/ just because I think they look the best


The red nikes are sooooo sick, but yeah the only real difference i can see between the 09 and 10 is different looking material in the heel. Might be able to find a comparison via google.
i <3 mine, they feel awesome, they're comfy, they're stylish enough where i don't feel like a retard wearing them when i go to a commercial gym, and i think my jerk and snatch both went up like 10kg after i got them lol. but the rubber part on front is starting to peel off, i can probably just glue it. If you do get them, pay attention to the sizing they tell you to follow.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 20:40:12
January 26 2011 20:36 GMT
#926
So I missed my workout Tuesday.

The night before I stayed up until 1 or 2 to study for stats. had to get up at 6ish... but at least I'm wanting for murder after killing that exam.
that day took my exam, went into work and worked till four, then had to go to a psychology career thing until five. I got home and laid down to relax a little bit and fell asleep in ten minutes on accident.

But oh well, not the end of the world. I'm going today to do press/chinups (Squat/bench/DL tomorrow)
Moving into a house with a few buds for a couple of months for super cheap. It'll be a good time lol

Thinking about starting to mix in running when I stall (Should be soon, I've been SS for two or three months by now...)

My plan is to simply do something like
Monday: Squat, Bench/OH Press, Weighted Chins (Or rows? Hm.)
Wednesday: Light jog (20 min), Deadlift, Bench/OH press, the ab work they recommend in SS wikia
Friday: Squat, Bench/OH Press, Weighted pull ups.

First of all, is this any good? Should I actually do this or should I do some other program
Second of all, my cardio is completely shot. Which is why I want to add cardio (although a light amount at first. Possibly build up from there) to my work outs. Plus I don't wanna squat 3x a week, 2x is enough
Victory Loves Preparation
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 20:39:41
January 26 2011 20:39 GMT
#927
EDIT: Doublepost
Victory Loves Preparation
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 20:59:46
January 26 2011 20:57 GMT
#928
Uh if u really want to do olympic lifts then get shoes. Or you can just get cheap flat sole shoes like chucks. Are you using the wrestling shoes for wrestling and lifting or just lifting? If it is just for lifting then get weightlifting shoes.

and lol good review of the nikes. They are a lot heavier, but you will feel so solid.

Try risto shoes, they are handmade so they prob will hold better than those cheaper shoes. I have do-wins and they falling apart after only a year and a half of use.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
January 26 2011 21:13 GMT
#929
I have VS shoes which I like but as I haven't subjected them to lots of abuse yet I cannot comment on their durability. The price is good, though.
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 21:21:00
January 26 2011 21:19 GMT
#930
On January 27 2011 05:57 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Uh if u really want to do olympic lifts then get shoes. Or you can just get cheap flat sole shoes like chucks. Are you using the wrestling shoes for wrestling and lifting or just lifting? If it is just for lifting then get weightlifting shoes.

and lol good review of the nikes. They are a lot heavier, but you will feel so solid.

Try risto shoes, they are handmade so they prob will hold better than those cheaper shoes. I have do-wins and they falling apart after only a year and a half of use.


Right, my dad pretty much just went to a dicks and asked what shoes they had for lifting. I was originally going to get either vibrams or chuck taylors, but now I squat and deadlift barefoot so that's not an issue. I'm looking for oly shoes I guess, for powercleans/front squats when I get there.

So I'll check out risto and the rogue do-wins for now, suggestions still welcome~

edit: and the vs shoes to check out as well.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
January 26 2011 21:22 GMT
#931
I want those shoes any shops in europe that sell them?
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
January 26 2011 21:31 GMT
#932
On January 27 2011 06:22 Zafrumi wrote:
I want those shoes any shops in europe that sell them?


Very likely seeing as weightlifting is much bigger internationally than in USA. Check around online.

@catch yeah dick's doesnt have any actual weightlifting shoes or any employees that know what the hell a weightlifing shoe entails. I'm surprised he didn't come home with running shoes :p
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 21:35:00
January 26 2011 21:31 GMT
#933
VS are dowins im pretty sure. They have the same style and look exactly like mine but just has different colors.

@ zafrumi, what shoes?

btw I like my dowins, I probably dont take good care of them as I should be haha. I wore addias, and nikes before. Addias shoes are too narrow for my feet so I dont like them. Nikes were amazing though, the stability of the shoes were way better than my dowins. On the downside the shoes are heavier, but they shouldnt be a problem once you get used to it.


you can look here too (I probably should mention werksan since coaches of my team own it) :D
http://www.werksanusa.com/products.asp?dept=4
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-26 21:38:33
January 26 2011 21:37 GMT
#934
rogue do-wins! or Risto Sports Series 2, they are pretty sexy too
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
January 26 2011 21:47 GMT
#935
dowins should be sold in europe.(not a clue where though) Risto should sell internationally since they usually travel to countries to market their shoe.

addias weightlifting shoes are the most popular, they should be easy to find.
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 26 2011 23:14 GMT
#936
I'm currently using an old pair of nike basketball shoes that I had from highschool to do my power cleans. They almost perfectly fit the given description, being very heavy, solid through the center (only palce with a noticeable give is the toe) and a raised heal. They're not some crap like shox either, they're a thick (about an inch in the back, half an inch in the front) dense piece of rubber the whole way through. I'll probably stick with these throughout SS, and invest in a solid pair of weightlifting shoes if I make it to doing oly lifts. That should be significantly down the road though - decaf is snatching more than I squat.

I squat/deadlift either in a pair of pumas that I have without almost no sole at all, or straight out barefoot. Makes barely a difference to go barefoot over the pumas, but vs running shoes or vs the basketball shoes it's pretty significant. The raised heel kills me, and I can't put the right force into my squat.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
January 26 2011 23:26 GMT
#937
On January 27 2011 00:51 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2011 23:48 eshlow wrote:
On January 26 2011 16:03 decafchicken wrote:
Finally got my roommate to stop doing stupid flies and curls and shit and taught him snatch and cj for two hours. Unfortunately he's also the most athletic kid i know so in a month he'll probably be 20 pounds lighter and lifting 20 pounds more than me T_T

And on foam rolling, how often should i do it and for how long? Same with popping my SI joint back into place via joint manipulation, and am i always going to have to do this?


SI joint if anyone is manipulating it back they should ALSO be giving you exercises to help to get it to stay there.

If they're not see a different person because htey aren't doing theirjob right

I'm doing it myself through the methods on eatmoveimprove


Hmmm... might want to get it checked out then would be a good idea
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 02:43:44
January 27 2011 00:09 GMT
#938
Day 6 was easy. Gonna try to get in the gym next 2 days in a row. And go to practice tomorrow night ^_^
Power Snatch: 1x2 @ 70, 5x2 @ 80 Every rep flew up and finished ez
Power C&J: 1x2 @ 92.5 5x1 @ 102.5 Ez, didn't even have to put in much effort just focused on form
Front Squat: 1x2 @ 265, 1x2 @ 280 Need to adjust my front squat max higher ^_^

Tomorrow not a lot of reps, but couple 90-95% efforts on snatch, cj, back squat.

On January 27 2011 08:26 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 00:51 decafchicken wrote:
On January 26 2011 23:48 eshlow wrote:
On January 26 2011 16:03 decafchicken wrote:
Finally got my roommate to stop doing stupid flies and curls and shit and taught him snatch and cj for two hours. Unfortunately he's also the most athletic kid i know so in a month he'll probably be 20 pounds lighter and lifting 20 pounds more than me T_T

And on foam rolling, how often should i do it and for how long? Same with popping my SI joint back into place via joint manipulation, and am i always going to have to do this?


SI joint if anyone is manipulating it back they should ALSO be giving you exercises to help to get it to stay there.

If they're not see a different person because htey aren't doing theirjob right

I'm doing it myself through the methods on eatmoveimprove


Hmmm... might want to get it checked out then would be a good idea


Back feels fine, and if it acts up i just pop it. What i need are exercise to help it stay there but the chiro i saw last semester didn't really give me anything to work with and i dont have a PT i can go see for free up here. Got anything for me? I've mostly been doing planks to help it out, and started adding side plank + leg adduction.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 03:10:21
January 27 2011 03:09 GMT
#939
Do you know if anything on one side is looser than the other or tighter than the other? That's generally what you want to look at first adn then go from there.

I haven't seen you and I'm not particularly good with SI/hip mechanics to spot anything even if I know imbalances yet so.... my advice in this area probably won't be that great.

I have a similar issue that I haven't been able to figure out yet... hopefully over the course of this semester I can learn more enough to help myself and others
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
January 27 2011 13:28 GMT
#940
I just use Chucks and love them
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