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My buddy found this bulgarian workout that looks pretty awesome i think i might want to try it out, lemme know what you guys think:
http://www.mikesgym.org/programs/index.php?show=program&programID=27
Squatted for the first time in at least a month today O.O Put up 10x225 8x295 6x325 4x345,375 3x405
By the end the bar was bending and i was finishing the reps so fast the weight was bouncing around up top, felt awesome  Bench and weighted pull ups felt good too.
On January 17 2011 07:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:First workout with our as-of-yet unofficial olympic/powerlifting club. Just worked on form, and snatched for the first time. That shit is hard.  Fun though, and really empowering. Then we did a little bench press for the beachbro inside of us. Overall, a good day :D
Nice. And yeah snatching is wtf hard
On January 17 2011 06:02 funkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 04:39 KizZBG wrote:On January 16 2011 04:27 funkie wrote:
Decaf, dimsum, rosa, shallow, sjarl. Etc. Should i keep on bulking? (judging from my pics)
Sjarl you're a fucking monster I'd deffinately keep bulking. Are you still on SS? If I were you, I would start focusing more on size now. What are you goals? Yes still on SS since it's still working for me. Goals? Just to be healthy, fucking strong and be huge and ripped :o! My goal was 75kg but I'm guessing I shall top that and move it up to 80-85 :0? What do you think?
Just keep at it as long as you can. Just keep getting huge and strong.
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gotta ask eshlow that
And to be honest I'm in the same boat. I never really had a problem with milk till last fall when I tried to do starting strength I noticed I had a problem digesting milk in either larger quantities 8 cups+ per day or when I drank milk alone with nothing else. So I plan to start again this year but with lactose pills to help. Actually milk is just an excuse why I stopped lol. Was just too lazy.
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Right now I'm doing the SS and wondering if accessory exercises should be included?
It feels like I could be spending some more time in the gym.
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On January 17 2011 10:05 Advocado wrote:
Right now I'm doing the SS and wondering if accessory exercises should be included?
It feels like I could be spending some more time in the gym.
Its like that when you first start. The program is designed to be easier at the beginning and gets harder as you progress because you spend more time resting and switching plates. Its overall better you make consistent progress than to add too much weight early on and stall.
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On January 17 2011 06:02 funkie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 04:39 KizZBG wrote:On January 16 2011 04:27 funkie wrote:
Decaf, dimsum, rosa, shallow, sjarl. Etc. Should i keep on bulking? (judging from my pics)
Sjarl you're a fucking monster I'd deffinately keep bulking. Are you still on SS? If I were you, I would start focusing more on size now. What are you goals? Yes still on SS since it's still working for me. Goals? Just to be healthy, fucking strong and be huge and ripped :o! My goal was 75kg but I'm guessing I shall top that and move it up to 80-85 :0? What do you think?
It would be quite impressive if you reach 85KG with the same amount of bodyfat at your height lol. Just keep bulking steadily. If you're still making progress and enjoying the program keep doing it, if not then you can switch it up for a more bodybuilding oriented training. (it's what I'm doing at the moment and loving it!)
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Keep going funkie!
I'm at 80kg right now, up from ~63 in september. Haven't gained weight in a month and a halfish, as I haven't really been eating... But I gained ~5 lbs over my winter break, and I'll be getting back into it as the semester starts. I'm 6'4, so I still barely even look like I work out. Aiming for 90kg+ before I reevaluate.
Since I've started taking magnesium pills regularly, i've noticed that I sleep much more soundly at night, and that I have some of the craziest dreams while I'm sleeping. I never used to dream before, more than once or twice a year, and I used to sleep in 40 minute blocks of time - a hold over from sleeping in class in highschool, where that was just the amount of time i could squeeze out between class bells. If anyone's having trouble with their sleep, I might suggest these. They don't help me getting to sleep at night, but once I make it to sleep, I'm golden. Despite the multiple changes I've made to my lifestyle, this is the one that most closely mirrors the sleep changes, and most of the other thigns I've done (like moving home for break, where I have allergies) have been BAD for my sleep in the past.
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haha, speaking of dreams, milk gives me the most lucid, vivid dreams ever
like retarded immersive and long
i've never had a nightmare in my whole life until about a week ago where i woke up and had to convince myself for 30 minutes that that shit wasn't real
quit being lazy, ilikestar! :D life is short
oh, and
![[image loading]](http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3226/eshlow.jpg)
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On January 17 2011 10:05 Advocado wrote:
Right now I'm doing the SS and wondering if accessory exercises should be included?
It feels like I could be spending some more time in the gym.
Sounds like someone didn't read the book or the wiki 
from the wiki
You can do anything you want to do. You can squat on a swiss ball, you can bench monkeys wearing pantyhose, you can pick your nose and wear a cockring, it doesn't really matter to me, but none of those things are "Starting Strength." So don't do any of that silly bullshit and say that you're "doing the Rippetoes."
If, however, you decide you're going to add a bunch of stuff to the program, chances are good you will screw it up. Why am I so confident? The fact that you would ask a question like this indicates that you lack experience with weight training because, if you were experienced, you wouldn't ask this question in the first place. You'd simply adjust it as your experience dictates.
The premise behind starting strength is that you are using compound exercises and hitting all of your muscles with the basic lifts. More than an hour and a half for a workout is generally considered suboptimal, and I've definitely heard this outside of starting strength as well.
Accessory exercises will only hinder your progress until you've hit your limit and moved on from being a novice  Once you start hitting the upper limit of your lifts, you'll see why you don't need the extra exercises.
I felt the same as you, as I was one of those people who went to the gym 5 days a week, had good form on a ton of accessory exercises, but wasn't making the progress I wanted... hence starting this program. I still want to be in the gym for longer just because I'm used to it :/
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lol, what kind of picture is that.
Any of those look fine. I think I would go with the second one since it's specifically for dairy digestion
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it's like the batman symbol -_- shining from this thread
k ill get the second one, tres excited to drink milk again!
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hahaha great picture radial.
day 2 of rugby = great success. agility, speed, and hitting feel much improved. hope my gym isn't closed tomorrow.
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haha you should leave that picture on the op.
Bulgarian program is hard stuff. Would be fun to try out :D
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Supplements beneficial for mass gain -- creatine, whey & casein, BCAAs, eating a lot of food, sleeping well
can anyone go into any details on their experience with these? I've used creatine in the past but it was powdered and my local fitness guru buddy says pills are the way to go. I've also heard him say that casein was not so good, that it was supposed to make you gain weight in your sleep but it ended up doing more harm than good. and idunno what bcaa's are.
i'm back on gomad and trying to regulate my sleep schedule and meal schedule. just wanted to look into these options as well.
finally when I'm at the gym I see the big guys with the standard protein shake cups but they typically have like a bright red fruity looking drink or something. is this some kind of energy juice that i dont know about or am i crazy and its just gatorade?
edit: btw ty for the prompt responses and answers as usual. I'm kind of a question + get-everything-squared-away-before-starting kind of guy, hence the many questions preceding my ACTUALLY going to the gym
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Powdered is better. Never taken it consistently but apparently it works.
The protein I take has whey and casein. If anything just have milk and cottage cheese before bed.
They probably are drinking workout shakes which usually have creatine, caffeine, and argenine
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On January 17 2011 13:07 vicariouscheese wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2011 10:05 Advocado wrote:
Right now I'm doing the SS and wondering if accessory exercises should be included?
It feels like I could be spending some more time in the gym. Sounds like someone didn't read the book or the wiki from the wiki Show nested quote +
You can do anything you want to do. You can squat on a swiss ball, you can bench monkeys wearing pantyhose, you can pick your nose and wear a cockring, it doesn't really matter to me, but none of those things are "Starting Strength." So don't do any of that silly bullshit and say that you're "doing the Rippetoes."
If, however, you decide you're going to add a bunch of stuff to the program, chances are good you will screw it up. Why am I so confident? The fact that you would ask a question like this indicates that you lack experience with weight training because, if you were experienced, you wouldn't ask this question in the first place. You'd simply adjust it as your experience dictates.
The premise behind starting strength is that you are using compound exercises and hitting all of your muscles with the basic lifts. More than an hour and a half for a workout is generally considered suboptimal, and I've definitely heard this outside of starting strength as well. Accessory exercises will only hinder your progress until you've hit your limit and moved on from being a novice Once you start hitting the upper limit of your lifts, you'll see why you don't need the extra exercises. I felt the same as you, as I was one of those people who went to the gym 5 days a week, had good form on a ton of accessory exercises, but wasn't making the progress I wanted... hence starting this program. I still want to be in the gym for longer just because I'm used to it :/
I probably suffer from sometimes starting to question whether things works for me or not. But after taking another look at my training log I can see progress, so I'll keep trying harder on diet & sleep.
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BCAA stands for Branched-chain amino acids.
Quote from wikipedia: The BCAAs are among the nine essential amino acids for humans, accounting for 35% of the essential amino acids in muscle proteins and 40% of the preformed amino acids required by mammals. Some weightlifters believe that consuming a higher percentage of BCAAs is better for increasing lean muscle mass than consuming proteins containing relatively less BCAAs.
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On January 17 2011 15:10 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +Supplements beneficial for mass gain -- creatine, whey & casein, BCAAs, eating a lot of food, sleeping well can anyone go into any details on their experience with these? I've used creatine in the past but it was powdered and my local fitness guru buddy says pills are the way to go. I've also heard him say that casein was not so good, that it was supposed to make you gain weight in your sleep but it ended up doing more harm than good. and idunno what bcaa's are. i'm back on gomad and trying to regulate my sleep schedule and meal schedule. just wanted to look into these options as well. finally when I'm at the gym I see the big guys with the standard protein shake cups but they typically have like a bright red fruity looking drink or something. is this some kind of energy juice that i dont know about or am i crazy and its just gatorade? edit: btw ty for the prompt responses and answers as usual. I'm kind of a question + get-everything-squared-away-before-starting kind of guy, hence the many questions preceding my ACTUALLY going to the gym
Working out is one of the few things in life where it is just better to dive in and learn from experience. "Researching and covering all your bases" is just an excuse to be lazy / intimitaded / whatever and not going to the gym.
Not saying you shouldn't read, but it has so much more value when you can discard stuff that you know that doesn't work because you have tried out yourself.
@Decaf: great squatting!
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On January 17 2011 15:10 mOnion wrote:Show nested quote +Supplements beneficial for mass gain -- creatine, whey & casein, BCAAs, eating a lot of food, sleeping well can anyone go into any details on their experience with these? I've used creatine in the past but it was powdered and my local fitness guru buddy says pills are the way to go. I've also heard him say that casein was not so good, that it was supposed to make you gain weight in your sleep but it ended up doing more harm than good. and idunno what bcaa's are. i'm back on gomad and trying to regulate my sleep schedule and meal schedule. just wanted to look into these options as well. finally when I'm at the gym I see the big guys with the standard protein shake cups but they typically have like a bright red fruity looking drink or something. is this some kind of energy juice that i dont know about or am i crazy and its just gatorade? edit: btw ty for the prompt responses and answers as usual. I'm kind of a question + get-everything-squared-away-before-starting kind of guy, hence the many questions preceding my ACTUALLY going to the gym
For most people, creatine is unnecessary. At least for the moment, you aren't at a point where it's going to be worth the money to use, and I personally wouldn't bother. My room mate uses it, but all it really seems to do for him is make his body hold on to more water, which makes him look bigger until he stops taking the stuff.
Casein is a type of protein that is supposed to be "slow release" - it breaks down more slwoly, leading to a "constant stream" of amino acids being available to your body, rather than the sudden rush provided by Whey, which breaks down much faster. Some people take a do a whey shake right after working out, and a casein shake at another time (before sleeping, right after waking up, in between lunch and dinner, etc) and some people just do the whey. Most of this thread, AFAIK doesn't bother with shakes, and tries to get protein from diet, but they're a good way to get the extra protein/calories if you don't have time to eat perfectly.
Gomad and sleeping are good for putting on size.
Finally, that fruity drink is probably one of those preworkout supplements, like Jack3d, superpump, or NO Explode. From what I've heard, they're mostly caffeine, and are supposed to get you "pumped" so that you lift heavier. I've always thought it was crap, and never tried them personally. Again, my room mate takes Jack3d occasionally, and I think it's mostly a mental thing.
Jump into the gym and start DOING rather than just asking. Quit stalling, quit making excuses. The gym isn't that sort of place. Once you get started, you're going to be wondering why it took you so long to do it, and you're going to be wanting every minute you can get between now and spring break/summer vacation to be ripped and sexy =p.
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Amen.
Once you start everything is going to seem harder, and everything is going to weight a shitton to you.
Then you'll reach a 100kg squat, a 130kg deadlift, and then you'll see yourself in a place where you never thought you could be. I know this, cause I've been there, I never thought I'd be able to grow on size, get stronger and whatnot. I though this "big and muscular" look took years and years. and I'm not saying it doesn't, but do it. Embrace it, learn, Read, fucking ask, and quit making shitty excuses. If you have a pain, heal it, and go rampage on that barbell again.
Fuck yeah.
Edit: Is Whey protein good for?, I saw some big bottles of Whey in a local GNC Store. Should I drink these? =o are they good for..liek teh strong?
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