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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 26 2011 22:56 GMT
#4141
What's wrong with extra fat? Whole milk is healthier than skim

Also, what's wrong with starting with 1/2 GOMAD if you dislike GOMAD?
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 26 2011 22:57 GMT
#4142
Lol I'm glad so many liked Sabaton :D

[image loading]

<3
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 26 2011 23:01 GMT
#4143
Neco: how about a SFW version ^^

And GOMAD ftw. Except for need whole
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 26 2011 23:05 GMT
#4144
I think eshlow posted an assortment of links as to why whole is superior to skimmed

i'm too lazy to find these links at the moment, but tastes alone, whole milk is far superior
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 26 2011 23:06 GMT
#4145
On April 27 2011 07:57 Necosarius wrote:
Lol I'm glad so many liked Sabaton :D

[image loading]

<3


can i have the psd?
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 26 2011 23:07 GMT
#4146
On April 27 2011 08:05 Cambium wrote:
I think eshlow posted an assortment of links as to why whole is superior to skimmed

i'm too lazy to find these links at the moment, but tastes alone, whole milk is far superior

But 1 gal skimmed > 2 glasses skimmed imo
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4748 Posts
April 26 2011 23:08 GMT
#4147
Squat 157,5kgx3x5
Press 67,5kgx3x5
BO-Row 82,5kgx3x5

Was a really nice workout today and did not expect to get all reps in, especially on squats. I am kind of amazed how far SS gets me, since my PR from last may is 172kgx5. That's really not too far away anymore after only two months of SS. But to be fair, the volume on Squats during SS is pretty brutal, 9heavy sets of 5 each week. You do less volume with lots of intermediate programs. And my legs have totally adapted to the workload, I am never sore.

@Funkie: At your bodyweight, your numbers on the Press are very impressive.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
April 26 2011 23:08 GMT
#4148
@Eshlow: It's just the added calories that comes with the fat is all that I'm really concerned about. I know I didn't burn through 4000-5000 calories a day and why I put on so much extra weight :\ The only person I can really see it working for are people doing other high intensity stuff with lifting (ex decaf)

I started off with 1/4th? GOMAD. I had a half gallon every other day (The days I lifted) and the gains were perfect. Then I switched to full GOMAD and my weight shot up with fat haha. I'm just sayin' I wouldn't recommend a full on gallon of whole milk a day to the newbs who come in here, ya know what I mean?

@Necrosarius. Pretty sweet, I might bother you to make a personal one :D lol
Victory Loves Preparation
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4748 Posts
April 26 2011 23:10 GMT
#4149
On April 27 2011 08:05 Cambium wrote:
I think eshlow posted an assortment of links as to why whole is superior to skimmed

i'm too lazy to find these links at the moment, but tastes alone, whole milk is far superior


Studies are good, but I got a better one. When your mother breastfed you, did she gave you whole milk or 2% skimmed breastmilk? Mother nature for the win
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Anabolicqt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States69 Posts
April 26 2011 23:20 GMT
#4150
On April 27 2011 08:05 Cambium wrote:
I think eshlow posted an assortment of links as to why whole is superior to skimmed

i'm too lazy to find these links at the moment, but tastes alone, whole milk is far superior


I'd be interested in reading them if someone had them at their disposal
Eat, Sleep, Lift......Repeat.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
April 26 2011 23:21 GMT
#4151
On April 27 2011 04:41 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 04:20 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
On April 26 2011 14:29 Advocado wrote:
Need suggestions for training music, I like metal/rock stuff.


Amon Amarth!


How could I forget Amon Amarth?! Such a great band to see live :D

ps. more of you guys should tape yourself while lifting. one might decide to do a compilation video of it someday.

edit: great job funkie!


that would be awesome, start with slow sad weepy music whilst showing the begginners doing their 40kg squats, then gradually switch to the 1000lb monsters with some epic music transition
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Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
April 26 2011 23:27 GMT
#4152
lol I didn't mean really mean to say skim>whole milk at all, even though it came across that way. When I was on that there bulk, I used either 2% or whole milk. I just meant the gallon per day thing was a little out of wack in my opinion, that's all.
Victory Loves Preparation
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 26 2011 23:28 GMT
#4153
On April 27 2011 08:20 Anabolicqt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 08:05 Cambium wrote:
I think eshlow posted an assortment of links as to why whole is superior to skimmed

i'm too lazy to find these links at the moment, but tastes alone, whole milk is far superior


I'd be interested in reading them if someone had them at their disposal


http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/12/dairy-fat-and-diabetes.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16904009
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20372173
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17925824
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11350992

As you know, dairy fat is mostly saturated fats:

http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/01/does-dietary-saturated-fat-increase.html
http://healthydietsandscience.blogspot.com/2011/03/high-saturated-fat-diet-gives.html
http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/78/11/1331.full.pdf
etc.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
April 26 2011 23:30 GMT
#4154
id recommend 1/2 gomad too, since its so freakin hard to chug 4 milks AND eat properly
personally i am on skimmed since its much cheaper here atm (no clue why), and i like how its more watery, easier to drink
as for those milk stats you posted....go by the actual stats of the milk you personally buy, coz those seem off to me
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 26 2011 23:30 GMT
#4155
On April 27 2011 08:01 Froadac wrote:
Neco: how about a SFW version ^^

And GOMAD ftw. Except for need whole

Sure, here you go
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


On April 27 2011 08:06 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 07:57 Necosarius wrote:


can i have the psd?

Sure, will PM you it!

On April 27 2011 08:08 Catch wrote:
@Necrosarius. Pretty sweet, I might bother you to make a personal one :D lol

Sure, just tell me what you want
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 26 2011 23:32 GMT
#4156
Ahhh, yes, I also threw in a a nice jab at vegetarians and vegans in the fat head thread too which was so nice of me.

3. Saturated fats (and by extension cholesterol) are not the cause of heart disease (and the above disorders. Nor are meats.

Vegetarians/vegans for health reasons are misguided.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Anabolicqt
Profile Joined March 2011
United States69 Posts
April 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#4157
On April 27 2011 08:28 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 08:20 Anabolicqt wrote:
On April 27 2011 08:05 Cambium wrote:
I think eshlow posted an assortment of links as to why whole is superior to skimmed

i'm too lazy to find these links at the moment, but tastes alone, whole milk is far superior


I'd be interested in reading them if someone had them at their disposal


http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2010/12/dairy-fat-and-diabetes.html
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16904009
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20372173
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17925824
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11350992

As you know, dairy fat is mostly saturated fats:

http://www.ajcn.org/content/early/2010/01/13/ajcn.2009.27725.abstract
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/01/does-dietary-saturated-fat-increase.html
http://healthydietsandscience.blogspot.com/2011/03/high-saturated-fat-diet-gives.html
http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/content/78/11/1331.full.pdf
etc.


Thanks, was a very interesting read.
Eat, Sleep, Lift......Repeat.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 00:11:10
April 27 2011 00:06 GMT
#4158
So. 1/3 gallon down. 2/3 to go

@above What is PSD?
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
April 27 2011 00:12 GMT
#4159
On April 27 2011 09:06 Froadac wrote:
So. 1/3 gallon down. 2/3 to go

@above What is PSD?


chug chug chug

psd is the adobe photoshop file
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 00:30:27
April 27 2011 00:20 GMT
#4160
On April 27 2011 09:12 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 09:06 Froadac wrote:
So. 1/3 gallon down. 2/3 to go

@above What is PSD?


chug chug chug

psd is the adobe photoshop file

I'm too cheap for photoshop.

xcf ftw ^^

@Necosarious not to be picky, but could I have a larger version of the SFW one? This one seems to be like 400*300

NVM: I was ebing an idiot. I was clicking on one that only sized to 300x400

I swear to god it was only 300*400 (or the browser was spazzing )
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