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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
April 26 2011 16:42 GMT
#4121
On April 26 2011 13:59 Froadac wrote:
Name/nick: Brian C/Froadac
Age: 17 || Height: 5'3" || Weight: 102lbs
Starting Date 4/25/11
Goal Date Next Surgery (late june/early july)
My bare minimum in terms of goals is to hit the 114 pound untrained benchmarks in http://www.crossfit.com/cf-journal/WLSTANDARDS.pdf If I hit those, I suppose I'll go for novice :D

Also gain some weight. Not sure to what point but I'll eateateat exerciseexerciseexercise, and see where I get to.

And the obligatory picture from 4/25 (at time of first SS routine)

yes, my torso is short during surgery. yes, puberty is late >.>

Go for it! Just pay really strict attention to your form on deadlifts since you have such long legs; it can be hard to get low enough for someone like that without rounding your back. Just listen to your body.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
April 26 2011 17:17 GMT
#4122
On April 27 2011 00:13 Ingenol wrote:
Organic chemistry is awesome! Definitely my favorite classes in college! I was an orgo major though so take it for what you will.

I do strongly dislike organic chemistry research, however.


If you are being serious, I will be coming to you when I need help when I take that class. I've never heard anybody say that they like it lol

My next year is going to be so fun. Bio intro sequences (101 in fall, 102 in winter, 103 in spring), chem intro, anatomy intro, applied calc 1 and applied calc 2. At least for spring quarter I'll only have bio chem and anatomy haha
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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
April 26 2011 18:06 GMT
#4123
So at the end of the week im gonna start cutting. Should i do anything specific for my diet? I know someone said don't drink whole milk (due to the high fat in it), should i cut that out or just keep it limited to post workout drinking. Also, when lifting should i just try to maintain my current lifts or progress. Assuming im eating less, progressing will be harder, so i might just keep on going with the same weights but get better on my form (because it always can improve! ^^).
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 26 2011 18:54 GMT
#4124
yesterday I was supposed to take it real easy, since I spent more than a week off gym.

pfft. fuck that.

Squat 112kg (ez ez pz)
Press 62kg almost Bw. FUCK SI.
Power Clean 68kg.

LET'S GO AT IT, FINAL WEEK OF SS YES YES YES.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Mithrandir
Profile Joined March 2011
United States99 Posts
April 26 2011 19:16 GMT
#4125
On April 27 2011 03:06 Alventenie wrote:
So at the end of the week im gonna start cutting. Should i do anything specific for my diet? I know someone said don't drink whole milk (due to the high fat in it), should i cut that out or just keep it limited to post workout drinking. Also, when lifting should i just try to maintain my current lifts or progress. Assuming im eating less, progressing will be harder, so i might just keep on going with the same weights but get better on my form (because it always can improve! ^^).


While you're cutting you shouldn't expect to progress, unless you're a beginner. Trying to progress is a good way to burn yourself out.

Generally, you want to keep weight high but back off on frequency and volume. If you're doing 3x10 3 times per week going to something like 2-3x6-8 2-3 times per week would make more sense, depending on how hard you're cutting and your genetics.

I would also back off the weight by a touch simply because overtraining is no fun at all, and neither is dieting.

E.g. if you just set a p.r. of 3x10 @ 200lbs, I'd say do something like 2-3x6-8 @ 180lbs.

Diet wise, just keep protein fairly high (1g/lb) and make sure you're in a calorie deficit. The problem with whole milk is that it's so calorie dense, you won't be able to eat much food through the rest of the day if you intend on losing weight. I'd say with cutting, skim milk would be better post workout.
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
April 26 2011 19:19 GMT
#4126
On April 27 2011 03:54 funkie wrote:
yesterday I was supposed to take it real easy, since I spent more than a week off gym.

pfft. fuck that.

Squat 112kg (ez ez pz)
Press 62kg almost Bw. FUCK SI.
Power Clean 68kg.

LET'S GO AT IT, FINAL WEEK OF SS YES YES YES.


holy crap body weight press? :O

I dunno if this is your final week of SS if your squat is still ezpz
FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
April 26 2011 19:20 GMT
#4127
On April 26 2011 14:29 Advocado wrote:
Need suggestions for training music, I like metal/rock stuff.


Amon Amarth!
aka DragOn[NaS]
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
April 26 2011 19:25 GMT
#4128
On April 27 2011 00:50 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 00:45 GoTuNk! wrote:
sabaton so epic, never heard it before
imagine gyms with sabaton instead of lady gaga


Welcome to my gym


I hate lady gaga and Sabaton is pretty badass.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 19:33:13
April 26 2011 19:32 GMT
#4129
impressive feat, funkie (I hate press... stalled on 60kg for the second time now ). but dont you weigh like 78kg?
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 26 2011 19:38 GMT
#4130
On April 27 2011 04:16 Mithrandir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 03:06 Alventenie wrote:
So at the end of the week im gonna start cutting. Should i do anything specific for my diet? I know someone said don't drink whole milk (due to the high fat in it), should i cut that out or just keep it limited to post workout drinking. Also, when lifting should i just try to maintain my current lifts or progress. Assuming im eating less, progressing will be harder, so i might just keep on going with the same weights but get better on my form (because it always can improve! ^^).


While you're cutting you shouldn't expect to progress, unless you're a beginner. Trying to progress is a good way to burn yourself out.

Generally, you want to keep weight high but back off on frequency and volume. If you're doing 3x10 3 times per week going to something like 2-3x6-8 2-3 times per week would make more sense, depending on how hard you're cutting and your genetics.

I would also back off the weight by a touch simply because overtraining is no fun at all, and neither is dieting.

E.g. if you just set a p.r. of 3x10 @ 200lbs, I'd say do something like 2-3x6-8 @ 180lbs.

Diet wise, just keep protein fairly high (1g/lb) and make sure you're in a calorie deficit. The problem with whole milk is that it's so calorie dense, you won't be able to eat much food through the rest of the day if you intend on losing weight. I'd say with cutting, skim milk would be better post workout.


You can keep the weights up if its only 3x a week. Just keep them heavy and stay away from failure training. It's very hard to overtrain even as an intermediate/advanced while cutting

Milk is debatable... generally I feel like if you're cutting just drink water and only eat 'til you're about 70-80% full instead of full to maintain and stuffing your face to gain.


Basically, if cutting IMO:

~Keep lifting heavy, but don't expect to make much progress. Don't need to back off the weight especially because you want to maintain strength and heavy stimulus is good for maintaining muscle mass

~cut out liquid calories, and generally don't eat til you're full. Don't eat anything processed.

~Make sure you get 7+ hrs of sleep because lack of sleep impedes improving body composition (due to the extra stress on the body). Also, eliminate other stressors
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 19:47:34
April 26 2011 19:41 GMT
#4131
On April 27 2011 04:20 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 14:29 Advocado wrote:
Need suggestions for training music, I like metal/rock stuff.


Amon Amarth!


How could I forget Amon Amarth?! Such a great band to see live :D

ps. more of you guys should tape yourself while lifting. one might decide to do a compilation video of it someday.

edit: great job funkie!
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 26 2011 19:55 GMT
#4132
i'll tape my 160kg deadlift tomorrow (if I dont forget^^)
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 26 2011 19:56 GMT
#4133
On April 27 2011 04:32 Zafrumi wrote:
impressive feat, funkie (I hate press... stalled on 60kg for the second time now ). but dont you weigh like 78kg?


72kg, on friday imma load 70kg and hit it
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
April 26 2011 20:43 GMT
#4134
Uh oh, we have a "Fat Head" thread going in general.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
April 26 2011 20:47 GMT
#4135
just spotted it....

use it to get rage for lifting but otherwise I'd say stay out of it >.<
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
April 26 2011 21:01 GMT
#4136
On April 27 2011 04:41 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 04:20 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
On April 26 2011 14:29 Advocado wrote:
Need suggestions for training music, I like metal/rock stuff.


Amon Amarth!


How could I forget Amon Amarth?! Such a great band to see live :D

ps. more of you guys should tape yourself while lifting. one might decide to do a compilation video of it someday.

edit: great job funkie!


Yeah I totally wanna be in a compilation tape where sJarl is lifting twice my DL... :D
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
April 26 2011 21:01 GMT
#4137
Yeah I'm not even going to get involved in that thread. Also, I am what I'd describe as pleasantly sore today. That is, it is consistent with what I would have expected and is not debilitating to me overall.

Also random other fitness goal; be able to do full splits both legs side-to-side and back-front. I'm very close on the side-to-side and still what most would consider "impressively flexible" back-front but I gotta work on it more.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
April 26 2011 21:08 GMT
#4138
On April 27 2011 06:01 Advocado wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 04:41 sJarl wrote:
On April 27 2011 04:20 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
On April 26 2011 14:29 Advocado wrote:
Need suggestions for training music, I like metal/rock stuff.


Amon Amarth!


How could I forget Amon Amarth?! Such a great band to see live :D

ps. more of you guys should tape yourself while lifting. one might decide to do a compilation video of it someday.

edit: great job funkie!


Yeah I totally wanna be in a compilation tape where sJarl is lifting twice my DL... :D


The weight lifted wouldn't matter nearly as much as the effort that would be put into that lift.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 26 2011 22:12 GMT
#4139
Today is my off day.

Still stuck on skim because my mom keeps on forgetting to buy whole milk >.>

Still, sticking to GOSMAD in the interim.

I was ever so slightly sore today, didn't get as much sleep as would be optimal. More zzz today.

Trying to figure out how I want to work out in long run. Should probably just overcome awkwardness and do it at school >.>

Oh, and yesterday (in lbs)

Squatted 45
Benched 25 (tt)
Deadlifted 55
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
April 26 2011 22:49 GMT
#4140
Personally, I would stick to skim or 2% over whole milk

According to livestrong.com (Shuddup lol)
Skim: 8 grams protein, 12 g carbs, 0? fat. 80 cal/serving
Whole: 8 gram protein, 12 g carbs, 8 gram fat. 150 cal/serving
A galllon has what, 16 servings? So skim is 128 g protein, 192 grams carbs and no fat while Whole has an extra 128 g of fat. Comes in at around 1280 calories for skim and 2400 for whole.

Now, this is up to you and I'm sure plenty will disagree with me. But an extra ~1200 calories is totally unnecessary, especially considering that ~1200 is from fat alone. Futhermore, with proper meals and what not you'd be getting around 3500/4000 calories per day. At your weight, it is honestly completely unnecessary and I'd stick with skim.

I almost completely disagree with GOMAD...
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