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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
April 20 2011 10:11 GMT
#3681
hmmm for me it would have to be something around:

2 x 1,25kg
2 x 2,5kg
2 x 5kg
2 x 10kg
2 x 20kg
and enough 25kg plates to keep you strong
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 10:47:22
April 20 2011 10:11 GMT
#3682
I went to the supermarket just now to buy some lunch. when I returned, a coworker looked at me in disbelief (I was carrying two bags stuffed with food) and said "is that your lunch??" I smiled and replied "why yes it is!". she still wouldnt believe me lol

speaking of food: this is what my dad made for dinner last night (and tons of it)
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POWA!!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
April 20 2011 10:47 GMT
#3683
is minced beef a good food?
i think its mostly protein , but about a litre of thick oil comes out when i cook it. wth is all that oil? o.O i just put my plate on a slight angle, push the beef to the top, and let some of the oil droop down to the bottom of the plate so i can eat around it -_-
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 11:03:18
April 20 2011 10:58 GMT
#3684
decaf will murder you for wasting precious animal fat
yes, minced meat is very good
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
April 20 2011 11:04 GMT
#3685
... but tastes like crap! *duck*

Ok, I have to admit, I'm no one to complain; I don't really look at my eating habits. Yeah, I try to eat more healthy (I try to get my weight DOWN) but sometimes I just am too lazy to cook and then there is the pizza service...
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 11:22:57
April 20 2011 11:17 GMT
#3686
i had another massive flare-up of sebborric dermatitis (face) so im eliminating bread, pasta, oven potatoes, chips, breaded chicken (no more KFC or mcdonalds) and chocolate no idea if itll help though but a good as any time to try. i just hope to god its not related to dairy

its not really gym related but it is nutrition and general health, so i wonder if any of you know someone whos had to deal with this? its "possibly" helped by low carb diet, which the "possible" fungus is "possibly" supposed to thrive on, which isnt helpful when you're bulking
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-20 12:14:42
April 20 2011 11:25 GMT
#3687
I'm no expert, but have you tried out fish oil? it has great anti-inflammatory effects and might help. try this one: http://www.iherb.com/Nature-s-Answer-Liquid-Omega-3-Deep-Sea-Fish-Oil-EPA-DHA-Natural-Orange-Flavor-16-fl-oz-480-ml/7908?at=0
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
April 20 2011 12:14 GMT
#3688
On April 20 2011 11:35 Froadac wrote:
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On April 20 2011 11:33 decafchicken wrote:
Congrats on the 100kg squat! Here's to another 100kg ^_^

And yeah i always recommend people that dont have good shoes for lifting to do it barefoot. <3 bare feet.

On April 20 2011 11:18 Froadac wrote:
Fear that isometric exercise will put too much strain on my back.

I'm reading the first bit of the book. If it is what it bills itself to do it will fix many of my problems. But I am admittedly having a bit of difficulty understanding what I need to do.

Here are my problems

1) Least flexible hamstrings ever.
2) poor lumbar posture
3) cervical kyphosis.

Do you guys have any advice in regards to this/how to achieve the correct squat position. I've done squats without weights with a PT before, and I'm hardly able to maintain it without a bar, and I was in better shape than I am now.


1) so stretch them! :D (i've always been really flexible so not much help from here lol)
2) lifting helped my posture SO MUCH. I used to hunch a lot and my back would hurt if standing around for a while. both of those are gone.
I'll let eshlow answer the questions with big words ^_^

So I went into the other room and tried without a bar taking into account all the stuff he said. Essentially it comes down to the fact my hamstrings are too stiff to actually squat. So that's the first thing that needs to get resolved. however, he doesn't say how to stretch hamstrings other than "do it", so do you have any advice?

Essentially in the squat section he says that there are certain negative things caused by unflexible hamstrings. I'm experiencing everything, which makes my squat form shittastic.

I used these stretches to improve my flexibility when doing squats.









I don't know if all of them helps to squat but I did them anyway the first vid is probably the best way to improve flexibility for squatting. You can also put your elbows against your knees and push out.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
April 20 2011 12:25 GMT
#3689
i had a trainer take a look at my squat today and realised i am in severe need of stretching too. im sure it will really help my squat form. its great because you can do stretching on your off-days too (possibly, i havent read up about it yet!)

i just found something fascinating... have you ever heard of "oil pulling"? its a traditional indian treatment where you swish sunflower oil round your mouth for 15 minutes every morning, apparently it cures just about everything (woman said it grew back her teeth). its supposed to suck out toxins from your body into the oil, which you spit out after 15 minutes.

http://oilpulling.com or google it or google "oil pulling dermititis"
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ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
April 20 2011 12:29 GMT
#3690
On April 20 2011 19:47 FFGenerations wrote:
is minced beef a good food?
i think its mostly protein , but about a litre of thick oil comes out when i cook it. wth is all that oil? o.O i just put my plate on a slight angle, push the beef to the top, and let some of the oil droop down to the bottom of the plate so i can eat around it -_-


it's a good food, but it's not pure protein. the kind I can buy here is about 14-15% fat. when you cook it, the fat turns into liquid which is the oil you see when you cook it.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 20 2011 12:49 GMT
#3691
On April 20 2011 21:25 FFGenerations wrote:
i had a trainer take a look at my squat today and realised i am in severe need of stretching too. im sure it will really help my squat form. its great because you can do stretching on your off-days too (possibly, i havent read up about it yet!)

i just found something fascinating... have you ever heard of "oil pulling"? its a traditional indian treatment where you swish sunflower oil round your mouth for 15 minutes every morning, apparently it cures just about everything (woman said it grew back her teeth). its supposed to suck out toxins from your body into the oil, which you spit out after 15 minutes.

http://oilpulling.com or google it or google "oil pulling dermititis"


sounds a) disgusting and b) like bullshit. I dont trust any "treatment" that is supposed to free your body from "toxins" and whatnot. but maybe there is some science behind it, we will have to wait for eshlow :p
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
April 20 2011 12:59 GMT
#3692
On April 20 2011 19:47 FFGenerations wrote:
is minced beef a good food?
i think its mostly protein , but about a litre of thick oil comes out when i cook it. wth is all that oil? o.O i just put my plate on a slight angle, push the beef to the top, and let some of the oil droop down to the bottom of the plate so i can eat around it -_-

preminced that you buy is all the leftover parts that they can't sell and they grind it up with suet which is fat. although supermarkets will usually clearly label fat and water %. just like frozen chicken breasts are always soaked in water and frozen dripping wet for more weight.

you can just fry up the mince and drain the fat (or eat it lol bulking). but if you pick out some chuck and grind it up infront of you it's pretty good meat.

what I always did when i was a poor student in sweden:

crap cuts are always cheap like leg of beef etc but given a long enough timescale in a pot they all turn out to be soft and delicious.
I like to use anything I can get from mince, leg, ox tail basically any cut that needs to cook a long time and is rather cheap. they have more flavour.

buy dry beans like soy, black, red, chickpeas etc and soak. cheap and taste better.
defrost 1kg chicken breast (around 4) and let all the water drain out. do this like 1 day before.

my recipe that i freestyle every time and always comes out different

in a bigass pot: 1kg mince beef medium heat fry slowly. drain fat. push the meat away from the bottom and fry some crushed garlic, crushed ginger, diced onion, diced carrot, diced celery, LOTS of black pepper, chili flakes, salt, tomato pure just to make it taste better. add your meat now cut into big chunks and brown them up. then add whatever "sauce" I have in the fridge which is usually a combination of ketchup, pasta sauce, chili sauce, chipotle, some chinese XO sauce shit and then add a box of ready to eat bean chili (canned chili) which you can usually buy pretty cheap, just a mix of beans in some flavoured sauce. I like to add this because it gives it a nice authentic flavour. then add the presoaked beans because not enough beans duh. then I add my usual suspects like 2 star anise, 1 cinnamon stick, teaspoon sichuan pepper, a couple bashed cardamom and give it a big stir. then simmer that shit for 2-3 hours. now you can cut up your chicken and mix them into the goodness. 15min is enough.

then i divide it all up into lunch boxes and freeze. shit is delicious and you can eat it with rice, pasta, bread. lots of tender meat and chicken and beans. everytime i cook this my friends knock on my door saying the whole corridor smells awesome.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
April 20 2011 13:42 GMT
#3693
great, now I'm getting hungry again. damn you!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
April 20 2011 14:39 GMT
#3694
On April 20 2011 17:36 Levistus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2011 17:24 Sinep wrote:
On April 20 2011 17:18 Levistus wrote:
On April 20 2011 16:24 thedeadhaji wrote:
On April 20 2011 15:44 Levistus wrote:
guys can you suggest me on weights to buy? i only have 30lbs total. im going to buy tomorrow but dunno what weight and how many pieces of each weight. i'm doing starting strength. thanks.


Do you have an olympic bar?
What's the distribution of your 30lbs?

I'm guessing 2x10lbs and 2x5lbs.
Personally I feel that you'd want 2x2.5lbs to push yourself with bench and military press.

I imagine you'd at least want to pick up 2x25lbs, I can't really comment without knowing your strength level at all... you make it sound like you wouldn't be able to start out with 2x45lbs right away.


hey man! i have 4x 5lbs and 4x 2.5 lbs. I have a standard bar not olympic. i just don't want to buy lots of light weight ones cause i won't be doing isolation exercises only the ones in starting strength. I need to buy weights that will last me for a long time cause i'm going to buy them somewhere far and cheap.


I'm gonna answer your post with what I'd buy (in kilos) if I wanted complete equipment.
I'd need one set of each of the smaller weights: 2x 1.25kg, 2x 2.5kg, 2x 5kg
Then I'd want 4x 10kg plates, 4x 15kg plates, 4x 20kg plates. Maybe 2x 25kg plates if you don't want to buy things later. This would go a long way.
I don't know what kind of plates you guys have in pounds but I hope this gives you some idea :O


Thanks Sinep. Anyone here who has weights in lbs? I dunno the weights available for lbs to buy the same like Sinep's suggestion.

4x25lbs
4x30? 35? lbs
4x50lbs
2x60?65?lbs

so is this a good set of weights to buy? can someone confirm is this is correct or something.

thanks.


Usually the highest "standard" weight plate in lbs is 45.

If I were buying weights, i'd want to following:

2x 2.5 lbs
2x 5 lbs
4x 10 lbs
2x 25 lbs
2x 35 lbs
4x 45 lbs

That's enough to keep your deadlift going for a LONG time (2 plates + 35 + 25 =345 pounds) while still having enough smaller weights to progress your lifts only 5 lbs at a time. If you didn't want so many plates, I suppose you don't really need the 25's for anything, you're just going to max out on deadlift sooner.
Maxwell3
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States88 Posts
April 20 2011 14:54 GMT
#3695
"Incline or Military 4x5" Does that mean I can do incline bench, instead of over head press?
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
April 20 2011 15:02 GMT
#3696
On April 20 2011 23:54 Maxwell3 wrote:
"Incline or Military 4x5" Does that mean I can do incline bench, instead of over head press?


Yep! Either works but OHP is a better overall movement for functional strength.
Maxwell3
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States88 Posts
April 20 2011 15:07 GMT
#3697
On April 21 2011 00:02 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2011 23:54 Maxwell3 wrote:
"Incline or Military 4x5" Does that mean I can do incline bench, instead of over head press?


Yep! Either works but OHP is a better overall movement for functional strength.

Yeah I want to do OHP, it's more alpha lol. Anyways, so the program doesn't rotate like SS does? Like A B A, B A B.. ? How the hell do you increase on dead lift/ OHP then?
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
April 20 2011 15:11 GMT
#3698
On April 21 2011 00:07 Maxwell3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2011 00:02 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
On April 20 2011 23:54 Maxwell3 wrote:
"Incline or Military 4x5" Does that mean I can do incline bench, instead of over head press?


Yep! Either works but OHP is a better overall movement for functional strength.

Yeah I want to do OHP, it's more alpha lol. Anyways, so the program doesn't rotate like SS does? Like A B A, B A B.. ? How the hell do you increase on dead lift/ OHP then?


OHP/deadlift progress once a week ... Madcow's is more of a program designed to make a powerlifter than anything else, hence the additional attention on the BB bench.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
April 20 2011 15:21 GMT
#3699
On April 20 2011 17:47 Zafrumi wrote:
all I know is that 20kg = 45lbs plates. you can do the math from there!


1kg = 2.2 lbs
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 20 2011 15:35 GMT
#3700
On April 20 2011 13:33 Froadac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2011 13:15 eshlow wrote:
Hmmm, that is a lot of neck curvature. Does it bother you much when you do anything?

Yes it does. And a doctor said it might be problem: I'm going in next week. It all stems from lack of pt --> pain --> less activity.

Time to end that cycle.


Yeah, see what they say about what you're allowed to do.

There's definitely bodyweight stuff you can do if they don't like you lifting weights but we need to know what your restrictions are for your particular surgery.

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