On April 16 2011 13:32 AoN.DimSum wrote: its funny how they never back their arguments with articles. Then blame the lack of evidence on the meat industry for making up data.
they kept on insisting that video was their "source"; given by some dude who started some vegan organization
I went in and looked at the sources some guy provided, concluding that every source was trash.
The bad thing is I did a cross examination of the sources within his sources, and found out that every single one fell under one of the following:
1.) Articles with inaccurate information about the roles of carbohydrates and/or saturated fats in our diets. 2.) "Studies" without actual scientific inquiry but pure correlation = causation reasoning. 3.) Dead links. 4.) Biased sources (eg. vegetariansarehealthy.com/meatismurder.com/PETA.com) 5.) Misunderstandings of the author's point and irrationally interpretations.
I don't dislike vegans particularly, but I just can't respect them on an intellectual or academic level. They're about as bad at debate as I am at power cleaning.
On April 16 2011 22:20 Levistus wrote: Hey guys I bought this. Can you suggest me exercises to add to starting strength so I can utilize my homegym fully. Also please put when should i do such exercise if it's together with my bench day or the other day. thanks.
Edit:
ok here is what will my routine be:
Monday Squat Bench Deadlift/Cleans
Wednesday Squat Press(not sure what kind?) Back Extension(need replacement i dont have back ext machine) can't do chinups cause no bar.
just these repeating every other day. pls add some exercises i can do with my equipment and suggest some good ones.
also some questions 1)which exercise group(mon or wed) should i add planks to? should i do them every workout? 2)can i do pushups with these workout?> if so, when? 3)i can incline my bench so should i do both incline and flat bench presses? if so, same day? or just one or the other?
thanks!!!
Just choose a program and stick with it, don't worry about making modifications. The programs can be found in the first post.
On April 16 2011 17:55 Zafrumi wrote: lol guys i'd steer clear of that thread if you dont want to get banned/warned just leave them be, you obviously are not going to change anyone's mind in there
and its probably gonna get closed soon anyway if this discussion continues (read the statement at the top of the thread ^^)
The funny thing is the meat and dairy industries have something to gain. MONEY. Vegans are not trying to gain anything for themselves per se. We are trying to save lifes and the earth.
vegans to the rescue!
and I'm sure the farming (crop) industry is all about holding hands and planting trees. No, they're a business too, rofl. decreased meat consumption = increased grain / vegetable consumption, forests and other things are cleared away to make space for fields or livestock, it makes no difference which imo.
yeah I definitely wouldnt add too many additional exercises to the program. trust me, when you are reaching your limit, you will be thankful for every rest day you get.
"you don't get big and strong from lifting weights – you get big and strong by recovering from lifting weights." -Mark Rippetoe
On April 16 2011 17:55 Zafrumi wrote: lol guys i'd steer clear of that thread if you dont want to get banned/warned just leave them be, you obviously are not going to change anyone's mind in there
and its probably gonna get closed soon anyway if this discussion continues (read the statement at the top of the thread ^^)
edit: haha check this out:
The funny thing is the meat and dairy industries have something to gain. MONEY. Vegans are not trying to gain anything for themselves per se. We are trying to save lifes and the earth.
vegans to the rescue!
and I'm sure the farming (crop) industry is all about holding hands and planting trees. No, they're a business too, rofl. decreased meat consumption = increased grain / vegetable consumption, forests and other things are cleared away to make space for fields or livestock, it makes no difference which imo.
Actually since the meat is predominantly grain-fed these days, the livestock and big agra businesses are very closely linked.
first time I did front squats today. I quite like them. might do them on wednesdays instead of back squats. or should I just replace power cleans with full cleans? what do you guys think?
50 Pull-ups Challenge (inspired by http://www.50pullups.com/http://www.50pullups.com/ ), because I need a fitness goal to work towards. Realistically I'm looking at a target of 30 though
On April 16 2011 22:20 Levistus wrote: Hey guys I bought this. Can you suggest me exercises to add to starting strength so I can utilize my homegym fully. Also please put when should i do such exercise if it's together with my bench day or the other day. thanks.
Edit:
ok here is what will my routine be:
Monday Squat Bench Deadlift/Cleans
Wednesday Squat Press(not sure what kind?) Back Extension(need replacement i dont have back ext machine) can't do chinups cause no bar.
just these repeating every other day. pls add some exercises i can do with my equipment and suggest some good ones.
also some questions 1)which exercise group(mon or wed) should i add planks to? should i do them every workout? 2)can i do pushups with these workout?> if so, when? 3)i can incline my bench so should i do both incline and flat bench presses? if so, same day? or just one or the other?
thanks!!!
Don't add any additional exercises, not even ab exercises or stretches (unless you absolutely have to) to starting strength until you're three to four months into the program. Trust Ripptoe on this.
I don't know exactly what your goals are but if you want to add muscle (on your traps, lats, abs, chest) then stick to the original program. If you overextend yourself you will not make gains, it will be counter productive. For me I even stopped a lot of the other sports I did when I first started out. This is my second time around after recovering from a car injury, and in the first month since I've started I've dropped 1% bodyfat and I've gained 7 pounds of lean muscle doing the original program and sticking to a semi-paleo diet (Without ANY cardio cept for my 10 minute light jog warm ups)--3000 calories a day, 200-250grams of protein, 50% or more of my total intake is from fat; fat from meats, whipping cream, butter. But lots of cheating with Mcdonalds and chocolate lol.
I'd say the most important thing is your diet. If you don't get sufficient protein (200-250g) per day you won't recover as quickly as you can and you won't make gains on your lift aka add muscle.
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erm.. interesting, but I dont really see how that affects strength training
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What kind of straps do you guys use while snatching, if you use any at all? How do I know which ones are safe to fail snatches behind with? I was told never to use them on cleans because if you fall backwards and don't release in time, you may break your wrists like Zach Krych and lose 2 years of progress.
On April 17 2011 05:56 Drowsy wrote: Dimsum and Decaf:
What kind of straps do you guys use while snatching, if you use any at all? How do I know which ones are safe to fail snatches behind with? I was told never to use them on cleans because if you fall backwards and don't release in time, you may break your wrists like Zach Krych and lose 2 years of progress.
Don't use straps with any Oly,.... too dangerous and you need to build your grip strength anyway
The only time you would use them would be with something like high pulls but even still
EPT
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just leave them be, you obviously are not going to change anyone's mind in there
Are there any VODs of this? Dimsum? 
