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ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-12 23:43:23
April 12 2011 23:43 GMT
#3281

Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 08:26 ludic123 wrote:
Hi guys! i eat a lot of cottage cheese now-a-days as a source of protein, and I mean A LOT. Like 600g a day, and I'm about 73kg. What are your thoughts on it? Good or bad? Should I consider switching to a more meat oriented intake, or am I okay?


How much protein is 600g of cottage cheese? (and holy crap that's like 1.3 lbs of cottage cheese man...)

I mean if your body isn't lactose intolerant or having any adverse reactions that's probably OK.



lol. Yeah, i know. it's about 70g of protein.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 12 2011 23:46 GMT
#3282
Ah, try to get about 70g more especially if you are aiming for gaining muscle.

1g/lbs or 2g/kg is a good target to aim for if you want to gain muscle mass
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
April 12 2011 23:51 GMT
#3283
On April 13 2011 08:46 eshlow wrote:
Ah, try to get about 70g more especially if you are aiming for gaining muscle.

1g/lbs or 2g/kg is a good target to aim for if you want to gain muscle mass


Ah, thanks. Does this apply just as much if I'm going for muscle endurance too?
Like, I do over 10 reps per exercise with about a minute rest in between each set.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 00:02:53
April 12 2011 23:54 GMT
#3284
Great that you can eat all that cottage cheese. Luckily in Iceland we have a thing called skyr which is like 65g of protein with almost no carbs/fats for 500g

Keep eathing the cottage cheese but also don't hesitate in adding more meat.

Think it this way: If you add +20kg on your max you will definetly add more reps to your lighter weights
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
April 12 2011 23:58 GMT
#3285
On April 13 2011 08:54 sJarl wrote:
Great that you can eat all that cottage cheese. Luckily in Iceland we have a thing called skyr which is like 65g of protein with almost no carbs/fats for 500g

Keep eathing the cottage cheese but also don't hesitate in adding more meat.


I actually wikipedia'd skyr, and man, it actually sounds kinda good. lol. But yeah, gonna add more meat to my menu also, mainly chicken. Chicken is sooo good, man.

sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
April 13 2011 00:04 GMT
#3286
On April 13 2011 08:58 ludic123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 08:54 sJarl wrote:
Great that you can eat all that cottage cheese. Luckily in Iceland we have a thing called skyr which is like 65g of protein with almost no carbs/fats for 500g

Keep eathing the cottage cheese but also don't hesitate in adding more meat.


I actually wikipedia'd skyr, and man, it actually sounds kinda good. lol. But yeah, gonna add more meat to my menu also, mainly chicken. Chicken is sooo good, man.



I think Tine or some other Norwegian dairy producer marketed something similar to skyr. Shame that it cost a fortune though. Cant remember the exact name of it though...
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 13 2011 00:04 GMT
#3287
On April 13 2011 08:51 ludic123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 08:46 eshlow wrote:
Ah, try to get about 70g more especially if you are aiming for gaining muscle.

1g/lbs or 2g/kg is a good target to aim for if you want to gain muscle mass


Ah, thanks. Does this apply just as much if I'm going for muscle endurance too?
Like, I do over 10 reps per exercise with about a minute rest in between each set.


Uh, do you need specific endurance for something?

Generally,it's better to train for strength/mass especially if you're just starting
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
April 13 2011 00:09 GMT
#3288
On April 13 2011 09:04 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 08:51 ludic123 wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:46 eshlow wrote:
Ah, try to get about 70g more especially if you are aiming for gaining muscle.

1g/lbs or 2g/kg is a good target to aim for if you want to gain muscle mass


Ah, thanks. Does this apply just as much if I'm going for muscle endurance too?
Like, I do over 10 reps per exercise with about a minute rest in between each set.


Uh, do you need specific endurance for something?

Generally,it's better to train for strength/mass especially if you're just starting


No, not really. It's just that I've been really big before(muscle-wise) and it looks kinda silly considering I'm so short(5ft 7in). So I'm going for a more athletic look. Besides, I thought maybe endurance exercises would be a good supplement to bodyweight training(mainly planche, L sit, body lever etc.)?
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
April 13 2011 00:11 GMT
#3289
On April 13 2011 09:04 sJarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 08:58 ludic123 wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:54 sJarl wrote:
Great that you can eat all that cottage cheese. Luckily in Iceland we have a thing called skyr which is like 65g of protein with almost no carbs/fats for 500g

Keep eathing the cottage cheese but also don't hesitate in adding more meat.


I actually wikipedia'd skyr, and man, it actually sounds kinda good. lol. But yeah, gonna add more meat to my menu also, mainly chicken. Chicken is sooo good, man.



I think Tine or some other Norwegian dairy producer marketed something similar to skyr. Shame that it cost a fortune though. Cant remember the exact name of it though...


Hehe. If it's expensive, it's unfortunately not my kinda thing. Poor student, u know.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 13 2011 00:13 GMT
#3290
On April 13 2011 09:09 ludic123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 09:04 eshlow wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:51 ludic123 wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:46 eshlow wrote:
Ah, try to get about 70g more especially if you are aiming for gaining muscle.

1g/lbs or 2g/kg is a good target to aim for if you want to gain muscle mass


Ah, thanks. Does this apply just as much if I'm going for muscle endurance too?
Like, I do over 10 reps per exercise with about a minute rest in between each set.


Uh, do you need specific endurance for something?

Generally,it's better to train for strength/mass especially if you're just starting


No, not really. It's just that I've been really big before(muscle-wise) and it looks kinda silly considering I'm so short(5ft 7in). So I'm going for a more athletic look. Besides, I thought maybe endurance exercises would be a good supplement to bodyweight training(mainly planche, L sit, body lever etc.)?


Nah, gymnastics bodyweight training is based in strength... you'll get enough endurance anyway by training strength so its not needed
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
ludic123
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway161 Posts
April 13 2011 00:17 GMT
#3291
On April 13 2011 09:13 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 09:09 ludic123 wrote:
On April 13 2011 09:04 eshlow wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:51 ludic123 wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:46 eshlow wrote:
Ah, try to get about 70g more especially if you are aiming for gaining muscle.

1g/lbs or 2g/kg is a good target to aim for if you want to gain muscle mass


Ah, thanks. Does this apply just as much if I'm going for muscle endurance too?
Like, I do over 10 reps per exercise with about a minute rest in between each set.


Uh, do you need specific endurance for something?

Generally,it's better to train for strength/mass especially if you're just starting


No, not really. It's just that I've been really big before(muscle-wise) and it looks kinda silly considering I'm so short(5ft 7in). So I'm going for a more athletic look. Besides, I thought maybe endurance exercises would be a good supplement to bodyweight training(mainly planche, L sit, body lever etc.)?


Nah, gymnastics bodyweight training is based in strength... you'll get enough endurance anyway by training strength so its not needed


Oh, thanks. Is there any particular exercises you would recommend for a bodyweight training noob?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 13 2011 00:25 GMT
#3292
On April 13 2011 09:17 ludic123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 09:13 eshlow wrote:
On April 13 2011 09:09 ludic123 wrote:
On April 13 2011 09:04 eshlow wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:51 ludic123 wrote:
On April 13 2011 08:46 eshlow wrote:
Ah, try to get about 70g more especially if you are aiming for gaining muscle.

1g/lbs or 2g/kg is a good target to aim for if you want to gain muscle mass


Ah, thanks. Does this apply just as much if I'm going for muscle endurance too?
Like, I do over 10 reps per exercise with about a minute rest in between each set.


Uh, do you need specific endurance for something?

Generally,it's better to train for strength/mass especially if you're just starting


No, not really. It's just that I've been really big before(muscle-wise) and it looks kinda silly considering I'm so short(5ft 7in). So I'm going for a more athletic look. Besides, I thought maybe endurance exercises would be a good supplement to bodyweight training(mainly planche, L sit, body lever etc.)?


Nah, gymnastics bodyweight training is based in strength... you'll get enough endurance anyway by training strength so its not needed


Oh, thanks. Is there any particular exercises you would recommend for a bodyweight training noob?


http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 00:42:22
April 13 2011 00:34 GMT
#3293
Fitocracy

Regular chin up gets my 5 pts
So a one arm chinup gets me +5 pts too? What.
but weighted chinup with about 90% of my bodyweight gets me 210 pts
HSPU is 8 pts
2x bw deadlift and squat for me are both 83 pts
DL 500 lbs for 30 reps is only 300 pts what????

weighted dip at +190 gets me an astonishing 333 pts

A world class 100m sprint (10s) gets me 18 pts
mile... at 3:30 pace (better than world record...) gets me 222 pts, but a 5:30 mile gets me 215 pts... Uhhh...

Looks fun to play around with but I guess I wish it was more standardized...
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 00:46:16
April 13 2011 00:44 GMT
#3294
Potential gameplan for this summer:
So i figure if i start bulking at roughly ~4500-5000 calories day and 300-400g+ of protein and start taking creatine over the summer i'll be able to hit ~225 by the time school/rugby season starts again in september.
Monday through Friday i'll probably be working ~8 hours days either at a law firm or warehouse doing labor
MWF Oly/power lifting mix? Is oly lifting remotely good for putting on mass? Maybe lifting before or after rugby on tues/thurs also and get some sort of a split going...
Over the course of the summer probably about 6+ tournaments for rugby (7's rugby so not as brutal as regular)
Sounds difficult, mostly because with that schedule i actually lost like 10 pounds of fat last summer(not eating enough) but doable. I'll probably lose my abs but i'll be huuuge so no big deal. My main concern would be keeping up my speed during this processs but logically i feel if my core lifts go up by 2-3x as much as the weight i put on then i shouldn't be any slower?
Then by just going back to my normal diet in the fall i should probably drop down to a very solid 215-220 by the end of the year. And then i can run more kids over! :D

edit: LOL @ those numbers eshlow. at least i can do a few easy clean and jerks and break 1k points in like 10 minutes lol
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 01:13:57
April 13 2011 01:06 GMT
#3295
On April 13 2011 09:44 decafchicken wrote:
Potential gameplan for this summer:
So i figure if i start bulking at roughly ~4500-5000 calories day and 300-400g+ of protein and start taking creatine over the summer i'll be able to hit ~225 by the time school/rugby season starts again in september.
Monday through Friday i'll probably be working ~8 hours days either at a law firm or warehouse doing labor
MWF Oly/power lifting mix? Is oly lifting remotely good for putting on mass? Maybe lifting before or after rugby on tues/thurs also and get some sort of a split going...
Over the course of the summer probably about 6+ tournaments for rugby (7's rugby so not as brutal as regular)
Sounds difficult, mostly because with that schedule i actually lost like 10 pounds of fat last summer(not eating enough) but doable. I'll probably lose my abs but i'll be huuuge so no big deal. My main concern would be keeping up my speed during this processs but logically i feel if my core lifts go up by 2-3x as much as the weight i put on then i shouldn't be any slower?
Then by just going back to my normal diet in the fall i should probably drop down to a very solid 215-220 by the end of the year. And then i can run more kids over! :D

edit: LOL @ those numbers eshlow. at least i can do a few easy clean and jerks and break 1k points in like 10 minutes lol


Nevermind that...

Sounds like a solid plan. 4.5-5k calories sounds at first a bit excessive but I don't doubt that you'll need it. So go for it.

There is this thing called Westside for skinny bastards (like you and me ^^) that seems to be catered to footballers. You might want to look for that or other stuff the James DeFranco is doing.

Personally I feel that just you could just do whatever you felt like (oly lifting followed by power stuff in the same session) and get good gains on it. And your abs will prolly go but it will pay off.
I don't think you'll slow much down on the field but as you said, going back on the same diet as you've been on now will get you that speed up asap.

Would love to get to 225/100kg during the summer aswell...
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 02:43:16
April 13 2011 02:30 GMT
#3296
wtf they dont have a lot of exercises...Also the system doesnt make any sense, I put in 3 workouts and I'm already at the top.
http://www.fitocracy.com/leaderboard/

There I win. GO TL #1
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
April 13 2011 02:45 GMT
#3297
On April 13 2011 11:30 AoN.DimSum wrote:
wtf they dont have a lot of exercises...Also the system doesnt make any sense, I put in 3 workouts and I'm already at the top.
http://www.fitocracy.com/leaderboard/

There I win. GO TL #1

Screenshot it.... we can't see only within about 100 ranks of where we are
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-13 02:54:06
April 13 2011 02:49 GMT
#3298
[image loading]

nvm there are people with higher levels than me lol I wasnt looking at the numbers llollolo
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
April 13 2011 02:54 GMT
#3299
Awesome day at the gym, finally got to 185 in deadlift, yay for being able to lift my body weight! ^^
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20173 Posts
April 13 2011 03:10 GMT
#3300
Ex-gf telling me how she got with some random last time she came to my campus...Yeah i think i'm gonna clean and jerk 150 tomorrow. Rage lifting is the best. If i have have the testosterone pumping through my body tomorrow as i do now i'll probably power clean it. Stupid women.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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