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looks exactly like nerdstomper.com which unfortunately failed horrendous :>
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I like this idea a lot. reminds me of the old warcraftstrategy.com circa 2003 days. There's startlingly little in the way of video tutorial content on youtube, most of it is just diamond noobs screaming about stuff and getting excited.
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I have a suggestion, if you are going to pump out so many videos out, as 1 every other day, you would do well to organize them, so the people learning them have an idea what order to watch them, instead of just hopping w/e. Short specific videos are better than long, more broad ones.
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Looks awesome. However, why don't you add a HotKeyIt logo to where the replay timer is shown in your replay videos? O.o
-BW Player so won't be paying, sorry ^^
edit: Also, as said above, maybe sort by author of video. So far you organized kinda nicely. Oh, and thanks for telling me what happened to CecilSunkure after BW. I was wondering but was too lazy to search with google to find out lol.
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I like the concept but what i dont like is that the videos is old and played on maps that been out from ladder for like 1 year. 
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Well, the idea is good, but i would never pay 5 $ per month for that.
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In the ever growing sea of sc2 content, and a vast majority of it being free, I don't see a lot of people buying this. Im definitly a fan of Cecil and would like to watch some videos but won't be paying the money.
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On June 24 2012 04:15 jcroisdale wrote:
In the ever growing sea of sc2 content, and a vast majority of it being free, I don't see a lot of people buying this. Im definitly a fan of Cecil and would like to watch some videos but won't be paying the money.
Looks like a nice cheap alternative to coaching and you have some great players.
There is a lot of free good content out there, but it's kinda hard to find..
So for $5/Month, i'd recommend this as it'll generally take you a good hour or more to find good content, and remember time is money.. an hour to most people is $10 working wage, so it saves you time and money!
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Blazinghand
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This looks like a cost efficient way to boost your sc2 learning! I'll check it out.
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I watched one video, the one about protoss micro, and the conclusion i draw from it is that it would be pointless to pay for this,
The only argument that would justify 5$ a month for content you can find for free is that you are guaranteed its up to date and GOOD in terms of production value or at least in terms of time wasted...
Your video about micro is 40 mins long, on old maps with old openings and some pretty outdated zerg army comps ( hydra/roach is not very common, mass speed ling opening nether ).
All the tips you gave there can be likely found in shorter and maybe more up to date video in about a 1 to 2 hours period of time... and considering that for a player that is plat or higher already knows about 30 to 70% of what you said there and 80% of the video was annoying things such as the stressing of how to wall of with 2 gateways on shattered temple... a map that hasn't been used for ages.
Well yeah... you don't save time, you don't gain quality and you can find the info somewhere else.
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Do you pay per month or just one time, really want to buy this, but if it is per month i cant affored it =/
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On June 24 2012 05:20 FroztyIV wrote:
Do you pay per month or just one time, really want to buy this, but if it is per month i cant affored it =/
It is per month, but you can pay for a month then cancel and pick it up again whenever you want to. The subscription includes access to the entire database.
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On June 24 2012 03:23 teddyoojo wrote:
looks exactly like nerdstomper.com which unfortunately failed horrendous :>
Good thing this has the advantage of a better name then
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Very cool, don't know if they take feedback here but in the toss video around 31 mins he starts drawing in paint, and he has paint hidden from his recorder with the program people use to hide applications from their streams, so basically u see him move his mouse over his sc2 screen and explaining a bunch by a drawing, which is invisible.
Just something to watch out for in the future, I could follow quite well either way 
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On June 24 2012 09:12 GIhi wrote:Very cool, don't know if they take feedback here but in the toss video around 31 mins he starts drawing in paint, and he has paint hidden from his recorder with the program people use to hide applications from their streams, so basically u see him move his mouse over his sc2 screen and explaining a bunch by a drawing, which is invisible. Just something to watch out for in the future, I could follow quite well either way
Yea, we noticed some of these things after the fact where the recorder wouldn't pick up on different applications. Going forward it shouldn't be much of an issue, but we didn't want to take down the video completely as we felt it still had plenty to offer.
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Best of luck to the guys running this site. I really hope you do well.
On June 24 2012 03:31 Drowsy wrote:
I like this idea a lot. reminds me of the old warcraftstrategy.com circa 2003 days. There's startlingly little in the way of video tutorial content on youtube, most of it is just diamond noobs screaming about stuff and getting excited.
I think the reason for this is the constant change in balance, metagame and strategies. Its only in recent times that some build orders / strategies etc has been somwhat viable for a longer period of time (until the changed Z that is..). When Stylish made his FPVODs the basics were already set and the game was changing more slowly and thats also why they were so good (imo). Im not sure SC2 is consisant enough to be able to build a database with tutorials. The way to go is to keep it updated and get rid of old content so that people actually learn the right stuff. If they manage that I think this will be a good site to learn a thing or two from.
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On June 24 2012 09:54 Robinsa wrote:Best of luck to the guys running this site. I really hope you do well. Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:31 Drowsy wrote:
I like this idea a lot. reminds me of the old warcraftstrategy.com circa 2003 days. There's startlingly little in the way of video tutorial content on youtube, most of it is just diamond noobs screaming about stuff and getting excited. I think the reason for this is the constant change in balance, metagame and strategies. Its only in recent times that some build orders / strategies etc has been somwhat viable for a longer period of time (until the changed Z that is..). When Stylish made his FPVODs the basics were already set and the game was changing more slowly and thats also why they were so good (imo). Im not sure SC2 is consisant enough to be able to build a database with tutorials. The way to go is to keep it updated and get rid of old content so that people actually learn the right stuff. If they manage that I think this will be a good site to learn a thing or two from.
We agree except for the removing old content part. We want to just leave it up and if people want to watch it they are more than welcome to and if they don't at least the option is there. The site is updated with a new video every other day to stay current with the ever changing map pool and meta-game.
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just signed up 
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i remember seeing some of these videos like a year ago.... it hasnt changed (cant say for the paid content)
i think the idea is kinda weak.. but maybe you will find some people who are willing to pay... anyway good luck, but honestly i would prefer watching a progamer stream where he commentates on what hes doing - cant get more up to date than that cos its live...
i dont mean to be rude, so dont take it the wrong way, i'm just expressing my own personal opinion.
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On June 24 2012 10:11 Nerdstomper wrote:just signed up
I love it.
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Would help if you had up to date knowledge and people who actually knew what they are talking about. Im not paying 5 bucks a month to have someone tell me the importance of high ground control over and over, something any bronze player knows. Your sample video is shit, and if its any indication of the rest..
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On June 24 2012 11:28 Jermman wrote:
Would help if you had up to date knowledge and people who actually knew what they are talking about. Im not paying 5 bucks a month to have someone tell me the importance of high ground control over and over, something any bronze player knows. Your sample video is shit, and if its any indication of the rest..
While I don't agree with this post or the sentiment it posses, I do agree that up to date information is extremely important.
Should I assume the non-sample videos contain information that isn't recorded on maps like xel-naga or shattered temple?
I am confident as a player, so I wouldn't want a tool like this however I'll definitely recommend it to my friends who are newer to the game etc if it is confirmed that the knowledge is of "modern" sc2 and not 6 months old.
Best of luck, hopefully one of these websites will manage to keep up and running as I think it's an excellent business idea for consumer and producer alike.
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On June 24 2012 04:35 TitaniumDesigns wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 04:15 jcroisdale wrote:
In the ever growing sea of sc2 content, and a vast majority of it being free, I don't see a lot of people buying this. Im definitly a fan of Cecil and would like to watch some videos but won't be paying the money. Looks like a nice cheap alternative to coaching and you have some great players. There is a lot of free good content out there, but it's kinda hard to find.. So for $5/Month, i'd recommend this as it'll generally take you a good hour or more to find good content, and remember time is money.. an hour to most people is $10 working wage, so it saves you time and money!
Although for some people like me who have no job, time is not of the essence
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Wow, last time I looked at hotkeyit.com it looked pretty lame, they've really improved their site and content a lot it looks like! Good job, this looks great! :D
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On June 24 2012 03:23 teddyoojo wrote:
looks exactly like nerdstomper.com which unfortunately failed horrendous :>
Hotkeyit has been around for years (since before Nerdstomper I think), it's not some new startup and thus won't go the way of Nerdstomper
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On June 24 2012 05:13 Aterons_toss wrote:
Your video about micro is 40 mins long, on old maps with old openings and some pretty outdated zerg army comps ( hydra/roach is not very common, mass speed ling opening nether ).
That's because it's an old video. Skew probably didn't realize that it'd be a bad idea to display such an old video as an example video, my guess is that he was thinking "save the new content from the site redesign for paying customers".
So you're conclusion isn't really based off of a good example, though it's not really your fault.
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Any SC2 content is better than no content, but the bar is pretty high for paid content.
I watched the free CecilKurkure video on Protoss micro...there are some pretty obvious production errors that make me wonder if anyone even looked at the final product. First, the screen goes bright-white for a few minutes early in the video. It's still watchable, but it is very obvious, and very annoying. Secondly, when he pulls up MS Paint to draw some diagrams...we can't see the diagrams. Whatever image capture software he used is not capturing the MS Paint window, only Starcraft. We see the mouse cursor change shape and move around, and it doesn't make any sense at all.
The maps, strategies, and the timings are pretty old, but I guess the old stuff is the free stuff. That's forgivable. What's much more damning is that either no one bothered to check the final product, or that they thought that was good enough to charge money for it. Either way, not good.
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5$ only, I'll give it a shot. gotta get out of Bronze on KR/TW :D
tyty <3
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i can save you all cash just watch the destiny mass queens video. If this video picks apart HOW to get greater mechanics rather than just saying build drones then ill pay 4 life
problems im finding with this game and to get out of the gold/plat league is that everyone says macro macro macro. . . i cant identify where mine is going wrong. Do these videos point to common things like were it is slipping and what the mindset/benchmark is to fixing it
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Also I wanted to note, it is too bad that there are no alternative payment options than credit card subscriptions imo. I would definitely buy like 3 months of access by say Paypal or bank transfer, but a lot of students do not own a credit card which cuts out quite a big customer base imo. Maybe some food for thought! Really helpful videos though!!
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i remember talking to these guys when they were still preparing for their website to be completed... seemed very professional, would support them!
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LOL this is ages old.....not --->*****NEEEWWW****<----- dude is going 1 gate fast expand....
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I'd label the videos, old, recent, new, so people get an idea of what's what.
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If I counted right, this is the third time you guys use TL's ad service. Out of curiosity, is it out of desperation or are u guys having success with it?
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Well if the sample video is any indicator of what the rest of videos will be like, I certainly won't be signing up. Good initiative and goodluck however.
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On June 24 2012 21:55 GIhi wrote:
Also I wanted to note, it is too bad that there are no alternative payment options than credit card subscriptions imo. I would definitely buy like 3 months of access by say Paypal or bank transfer, but a lot of students do not own a credit card which cuts out quite a big customer base imo. Maybe some food for thought! Really helpful videos though!!
We do also accept paypal but not bank transfers.
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I actually enjoy the video example, reminds me a lot of what Day9 usto be before he tailored most of his videos for lowerleague players. It's not "day9 quality from BW" but it's close enough to give it solid props. I may purchase this, but I have to kinda map out if it's worth it sense I'm ranked pretty high masters so I don't know the quality I'd receive.
Good job though, goodluck.
EDIT: I also enjoy how I don't have to watch the ENTIRE replay, you section out the important shit. This was a really basic video, but the asthetic properties were enjoyable and informational (though it's information I also know) btw cute mule during the first engagement on the ramp (building bunker) hehehe I hate that.
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On June 25 2012 05:47 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
I actually enjoy the video example, reminds me a lot of what Day9 usto be before he tailored most of his videos for lowerleague players. It's not "day9 quality from BW" but it's close enough to give it solid props. I may purchase this, but I have to kinda map out if it's worth it sense I'm ranked pretty high masters so I don't know the quality I'd receive.
Good job though, goodluck.
EDIT: I also enjoy how I don't have to watch the ENTIRE replay, you section out the important shit. This was a really basic video, but the asthetic properties were enjoyable and informational (though it's information I also know) btw cute mule during the first engagement on the ramp (building bunker) hehehe I hate that.
Being high masters will make certain things in the videos seem like common sense to you. However, there are also various small things that can be learned which elevate your game more than you know. The biggest difference you will notice at the higher level are the minor style variations and how they affect the duration of the game. In these videos you will most without a doubt learn these subtle differences. Also, you can post and ask for certain things to be discussed in the videos. As a coach for Hotkeyit, I enjoy having interaction with those wanting clarity or specific mechanics discussed.
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just a full database of old and some new videos.
this is most definitely not worth $5 a month. use youtube.
great idea though.
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On June 25 2012 05:41 hotkeyit wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 21:55 GIhi wrote:
Also I wanted to note, it is too bad that there are no alternative payment options than credit card subscriptions imo. I would definitely buy like 3 months of access by say Paypal or bank transfer, but a lot of students do not own a credit card which cuts out quite a big customer base imo. Maybe some food for thought! Really helpful videos though!! We do also accept paypal but not bank transfers.
Paypal automatically requires u to add a credit card as u try to pay a subscription. So it's basically the same as paying directly with a credit card, only u have to pay a small additional paypal fee ^.^
Unless u make an option to buy like x months of membership at a time, it still requires a credit card.
I don't know exactly how it works, cause for example if u buy a character transfer from blizzard, it's a one time thing, but it still requires u to add a credit card even if u have sufficient funds.
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On June 25 2012 08:45 GIhi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2012 05:41 hotkeyit wrote:On June 24 2012 21:55 GIhi wrote:
Also I wanted to note, it is too bad that there are no alternative payment options than credit card subscriptions imo. I would definitely buy like 3 months of access by say Paypal or bank transfer, but a lot of students do not own a credit card which cuts out quite a big customer base imo. Maybe some food for thought! Really helpful videos though!! We do also accept paypal but not bank transfers. Paypal automatically requires u to add a credit card as u try to pay a subscription. So it's basically the same as paying directly with a credit card, only u have to pay a small additional paypal fee ^.^ Unless u make an option to buy like x months of membership at a time, it still requires a credit card. I don't know exactly how it works, cause for example if u buy a character transfer from blizzard, it's a one time thing, but it still requires u to add a credit card even if u have sufficient funds.
I'll have to look into it more.
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stop the bashing guys. It looks great and is way cheaper than coaching.
GL for u guys.
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All the negativity! Nerds are such cheapskates. $5 to watch cecil do video tutorials? It's way too cheap not to try out. I hope all the people talking shit have a slight twinge of guilt next time they drop $5 at taco bell.
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not to be an a!@hole or anything, but the free videos were pretty outdated, don't know if the premium content is recent though. Overall it's cheap so one should try at least 1 month.
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Is there a way people can interface with top level players 1 on 1? If not, why? Don't you feel as though the information on how to improve is already available on the internet?
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On June 25 2012 13:15 GRCJH wrote:
Is there a way people can interface with top level players 1 on 1? If not, why? Don't you feel as though the information on how to improve is already available on the internet?
Well that would be coaching, which would definitely run you more than $5/month.
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On June 24 2012 10:58 hotkeyit wrote:I love it.
Nice to see you're reusing old account of failed project. I hope you solved the issues from last time. I mean, how legit is something where some of the comments looks manufactured just to give positive review? It's like bidding on own auction with other account.
I highly doubt that watching videos is "far more efficient" than dedicated 1 on 1 coaching or even analyzing of your replays by some Master/GM.
Sorry, but this doesn't sell to me.
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On June 25 2012 15:51 jnd wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 10:58 hotkeyit wrote:On June 24 2012 10:11 Nerdstomper wrote:just signed up I love it. Nice to see you're reusing old account of failed project. I hope you solved the issues from last time. I mean, how legit is something where some of the comments looks manufactured just to give positive review? It's like bidding on own auction with other account. I highly doubt that watching videos is "far more efficient" than dedicated 1 on 1 coaching or even analyzing of your replays by some Master/GM. Sorry, but this doesn't sell to me.
Hotkeyit is not associated or affiliated in any way with Nerdstomper. Whoever runs the TeamLiquid account 'NerdStomper' made the comment of their own volition.
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I like the idea but there's so much quality content available for free already, such as Apollo's recent videos.
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if the owner of this account can link me to videos which
1: Discuss where macro can be slipping. Eg WHY am i not getting to 60 drones by 8 mins even on a AI opponent
2: Explain what im looking for in my replays from my scouting (or my point of view, hate replay analysis which talks of what could have been and not of the real time info i had
3. How to actually improve. Focus and benchmarks
If you have these ill buy within 5 mins of me looking at the link and knowing me NEVER cancel cos im a lazy bastard and forgets
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This could work HARDLY for ppl under plat...
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looks like a mcdonalds advertisement at first
xD
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Interesting looking service. I might give it a try and then recommend it to some of my more casual friends. =)
On June 24 2012 21:55 GIhi wrote:
Also I wanted to note, it is too bad that there are no alternative payment options than credit card subscriptions imo. I would definitely buy like 3 months of access by say Paypal or bank transfer, but a lot of students do not own a credit card which cuts out quite a big customer base imo. Maybe some food for thought! Really helpful videos though!!
If you have the means to do a bank transfer you more than likely have the means to pay by "credit card" - Almost all bank accounts these days come with a debit card, which can be used anywhere that accepts credit cards. So it's really a non-issue.
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Well if the goal is "feel[ing] good"......
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I signed up last night. Can't login though it says my account doesn't exist. If the money is drawn from my account I will take action. BTW your contact us link doesnt work.
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On June 26 2012 13:59 Calpis123 wrote:
I signed up last night. Can't login though it says my account doesn't exist. If the money is drawn from my account I will take action. BTW your contact us link doesnt work.
I PM'd you about it.
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There is actually free content that is just unknown. I have been watching this GM zerg's tutorial videos and i went for diamond to high master. hope it works out!
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I checked out the free zerg tutorial with the macro map. It was really nice actually so thank you!
Too bad I don't really have time to play for much longer. If I ever start to play this game more serious again I will probably buy a premium subscription.
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On June 24 2012 03:31 Drowsy wrote:
I like this idea a lot. reminds me of the old warcraftstrategy.com circa 2003 days.
Ah, a member who remembers the old WCS site! Loved that place. I'd never seen an audio commentary on a game before prior to watching guys like TillerMaN and CrazyAssassin. I remember it being a radically new concept at the time, which in turn earned those two a truckload of money in exchange for a handful of commentaries.
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On June 27 2012 01:30 worked13 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2012 03:31 Drowsy wrote:
I like this idea a lot. reminds me of the old warcraftstrategy.com circa 2003 days. Ah, a member who remembers the old WCS site! Loved that place. I'd never seen an audio commentary on a game before prior to watching guys like TillerMaN and CrazyAssassin. I remember it being a radically new concept at the time, which in turn earned those two a truckload of money in exchange for a handful of commentaries.
Those were good times. And there was that other guy ... Ironman or something? With the really relaxing music in the background of his Human tutorials.
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On June 27 2012 02:50 MVega wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 01:30 worked13 wrote:On June 24 2012 03:31 Drowsy wrote:
I like this idea a lot. reminds me of the old warcraftstrategy.com circa 2003 days. Ah, a member who remembers the old WCS site! Loved that place. I'd never seen an audio commentary on a game before prior to watching guys like TillerMaN and CrazyAssassin. I remember it being a radically new concept at the time, which in turn earned those two a truckload of money in exchange for a handful of commentaries. Those were good times. And there was that other guy ... Ironman or something? With the really relaxing music in the background of his Human tutorials.
Yeah, IronClad his name was. I remember him always being very pleased with his timings. "We'll make a Farm now, yep, beautiful, beautiful, excellent..."
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On June 24 2012 10:11 Nerdstomper wrote:just signed up
lol
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well i rather go watch day9 daily wich is for free...
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hmm, hotkeyit.com are in a big big legal trouble, shamelessly monetizing Blizzard's IP.
(for everyone, they are using Blizzard derived work to make some bucks, and so far there's no acknowledgement for that, in a written and visible form)
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On June 27 2012 22:34 HomeWorld wrote:
hmm, hotkeyit.com are in a big big legal trouble, shamelessly monetizing Blizzard's IP.
(for everyone, they are using Blizzard derived work to make some bucks, and so far there's no acknowledgement for that, in a written and visible form)
Source?
Didn't think so. Is www.skill-capped.com also monetizing Blizzards work? No. They make their own work in the game. Are tournaments monetizing Blizzards work? No.
Durrr...
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The sites intentions are great.
I was a subscriber for a few months. But the lack of video updates, is very disappointed especially at a pretty large price for the monthly subscription.
Another thing that is quite disappointing is how the pro players creating videos for this site come and go. I am a big ROOTViBe fan and was disappointed when I saw that he only made 2 videos, whom of which were from almost 2 years ago and that he has been inactive since.
New players are always added to the site to create videos, they usual make a few then never make more which is a shame.
Not to mention the forum is basically dead, expect a replay analysis from your favourite pro listed on the site? It's basically not going to happen. And the "Leak-finder" feature in which they state that a pro will actually make a video for the site while he commentates and picks on your mistake through a replay basically only happened a few times from when the feature was first implemented and hasn't been touched since.
Very good idea, but the lack of subscribers and consistency from pro players really makes this site a disappointment.
This is coming from when the monthly subscription was $30 compared to now, which it's $4.95
I suggest go watching Day[9]
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On June 29 2012 16:17 SamuraiSEA wrote:
Very good idea, but the lack of subscribers and consistency from pro players really makes this site a disappointment.
This is coming from when the monthly subscription was $30 compared to now, which it's $4.95
The subscription is a lot cheaper now, and currently there's a new video every two days. Most of what you're talking about seems to have be fixed
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