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paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
April 29 2012 22:38 GMT
#501
There was a time when you could watch idra and see good games.
Nowadays this doesnt seem to be the case.

But i get it, idra has his place in the community.
Next to incontrol, people who arent mainly popular for unbelievable skills but more for their likeable/controversial personalities.
Im looking forward to see the idra/cruncher rivality come up again.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 29 2012 22:58 GMT
#502
Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
tetrismaan
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark302 Posts
April 29 2012 23:10 GMT
#503
On April 30 2012 07:58 Bagration wrote:
Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened.


Exactly. I think all this crap was to put on a show to get more attention because EG isn't winning shit these days.
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ddinoboy
Profile Joined April 2012
United States6 Posts
April 29 2012 23:11 GMT
#504
or they would have done it anyways, just because?
I_PROTOSSED_MY_HW
Profile Joined August 2011
22 Posts
April 29 2012 23:38 GMT
#505
dAPhREAk wrote:

you dont think the team managers are better qualified to determine what is best for the team than a random forum poster? i'm not sure i need to qualify that statement with anything more.


I already pointed out that this is a logical fallacy. I'm confused, are you trolling me?

Also, I must make a distinction: While contracting Idra might be "best for the team" (quotes because of the ambiguity of 'best'), it is detrimental to the scene as a whole due to the perpetual subpar quality of his games.

---

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be allowed to play because he plays bad (compared to other professional players, of course), I'm saying that he shouldn't be allowed to play because his outward appearance is that of someone who is looking for the first possible excuse to surrender.

Over the years, Idra has displayed an aptitude for misreading the state of the games he's played, resulting in him leaving when he is ahead or slightly behind. This makes his continued premature ragequits even more puzzling to me, as most other people would probably think something along the lines of "I know I'm bad at calculating who's ahead, so I'll stick around until I can confirm with 100 % certainty that I lost the game".

Watching a game with Idra in it is like watching 50 % of another game featuring two professional players, the other 50 % being omitted because Idra would have left long before the game was decided. Before somebody replies to this specific paragraph, I'd like to point out that you don't need to be a progamer to open a replay and check the unit/income/production/etc. tabs, look around the map and to some degree ascertain the state of the game.

All that said, I wouldn't have anything against Idra if he just tried. He ought to, seeing as it's what he gets paid for. Being behind is not the same as having lost the game.
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
April 30 2012 00:01 GMT
#506
so this game is not for the fans.

I can't believe I watch this series.
goofankle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States22 Posts
April 30 2012 00:05 GMT
#507
as much as I was looking forward to this, I'd say this was a let down. I certainly expected a lot more than a 4-0 by huk
Chylo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States220 Posts
April 30 2012 00:09 GMT
#508
Haha, I thought this was a great series. I tuned in and got exactly what I expected. There's dozens of other streams if you want "serious" play. With Idra it's guaranteed entertainment. What could be more fun than trying to call out exactly when he's going to quit the game? Great series, didn't take all day, supremely entertaining and hilarious. Watching people play long drawn out games that have been over for 10 minutes and watching them say gg is boring. Watching rage quits all day, now that's worth watching.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 00:23:36
April 30 2012 00:23 GMT
#509
On April 30 2012 09:09 Chylo wrote:
Haha, I thought this was a great series. I tuned in and got exactly what I expected. There's dozens of other streams if you want "serious" play. With Idra it's guaranteed entertainment. What could be more fun than trying to call out exactly when he's going to quit the game? Great series, didn't take all day, supremely entertaining and hilarious. Watching people play long drawn out games that have been over for 10 minutes and watching them say gg is boring. Watching rage quits all day, now that's worth watching.


Personally I'm not even interested in PvZ, but if I saw a couple swear words go back and forth, it would have been worth it.
To me, Idra is almost like the bruiser at hockey games. It certainly would be nice if he could play really well, but as long as there some rowdy drama, good entertainment will be had.
Sadly, today we had to settle for a few rage quits.
Kudos to Huk for not holding back any punches.
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 00:57:20
April 30 2012 00:54 GMT
#510
This was such a massive let down. Evil Geniuses really should do something about Idra and his attitude, Orb was fired for what he said yet this shit happens all the time with Idra and all he gets is a slap on the wrist.

He's obviously shown a lack of respect for his Organisations showmatch basically spitting in all of their sponsors faces and their fans, EG should really get rid of Idra and replace him with somebody that actually gives a shit and can actually produce some results by winning tournaments.

This kind of shit he does wouldn't be accepted in the Korean community so why should the foreign community accept it, just look at naniwa when he threw his match vs nestea in the blizzard cup.

edit for Grammar.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
April 30 2012 00:55 GMT
#511
Don't kid yourselves, that "bm" was staged for entertainment purposes.
11 years and counting- TL #680
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 30 2012 00:57 GMT
#512
On April 30 2012 07:58 Bagration wrote:
Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened.


Yep. -.- Also, even though HuK won this, I think IdrA might be a more evil genius.
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BazookaBenji
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
April 30 2012 01:01 GMT
#513
I just want to point out one thing: HuK and Idra are Team mates. Idra didnt even GG most of the games...I think idra sets a bad example for the Esports community. We have all had our fair share of nerd rage and outbursts in our lives, but i think we all can agree that we should strive towards maturity and well..things like a GG. Also i want to point out Generally the LOOSER says "GG" First because the WINNER played a Good Game vs them. Idra won't even give congrats to his own team mates for playing well.......we have a name for people like that where im from it's two parts but i'll just say the first
"Punk"
"terra Firma"
Vegetable Thins
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada5 Posts
April 30 2012 01:20 GMT
#514
I thought IdrA showed he has actually greatly improved his PvZ play in game 2. I was excited to see another good, long game but he rolled the dice twice instead lol.

He should have been able to take game 3, but he didn't scout at all... Was a fun series to watch overall though, and has generated a lot of hype.

GG's
^.^
"Marines, the counter to banelings." -The Gracken
UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 01:51:39
April 30 2012 01:48 GMT
#515
I don't get why people are so offended when IdrA doesn't give great games in showmatches. If you dislike his personality or his play, then simply don't watch the matches! And definitely don't go crying on the forums that you want him gone or w/e. Talking about him more is just going to establish his place in the community even more. So crying out that you want EG to release him certainly isn't going to do the trick.

If IdrA plays badly his actual fans will most likely get less and less interested, and with that he may "fade away", as some people like to put it. But if a shit storm ensues every time he "throws" a meaningless match like this one, he becomes even more indispensable for EG from a PR point of view.

So act like adults and just leave IdrA be if you don't appreciate his attitude/sportsmanship/professionalism.
The Creator of the Universe, LG-IM.NesTea | The Gracken, IdrA | The Spoon Terran, "Big Papa" EG.ThorZaIN --- Fighting!!
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 30 2012 01:57 GMT
#516
On April 30 2012 09:54 Jaegeru wrote:
This was such a massive let down. Evil Geniuses really should do something about Idra and his attitude, Orb was fired for what he said yet this shit happens all the time with Idra and all he gets is a slap on the wrist.

He's obviously shown a lack of respect for his Organisations showmatch basically spitting in all of their sponsors faces and their fans, EG should really get rid of Idra and replace him with somebody that actually gives a shit and can actually produce some results by winning tournaments.

This kind of shit he does wouldn't be accepted in the Korean community so why should the foreign community accept it, just look at naniwa when he threw his match vs nestea in the blizzard cup.

edit for Grammar.

So what...is the entire world supposed to model itself to act like how the Korean community acts...?
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 02:08:25
April 30 2012 02:06 GMT
#517
On April 30 2012 10:01 BazookaBenji wrote:
I just want to point out one thing: HuK and Idra are Team mates. Idra didnt even GG most of the games...I think idra sets a bad example for the Esports community. We have all had our fair share of nerd rage and outbursts in our lives, but i think we all can agree that we should strive towards maturity and well..things like a GG. Also i want to point out Generally the LOOSER says "GG" First because the WINNER played a Good Game vs them. Idra won't even give congrats to his own team mates for playing well.......we have a name for people like that where im from it's two parts but i'll just say the first
"Punk"


It has nothing to do with nerd rage, at all. He has stated multiple times that he doesn't feel GG =/= good or bad mannered. I doubt Huk cared at all, nor did IdrA.

On April 30 2012 09:54 Jaegeru wrote:This kind of shit he does wouldn't be accepted in the Korean community so why should the foreign community accept it, just look at naniwa when he threw his match vs nestea in the blizzard cup. edit for Grammar.


...? Koreans have no problems with IdrA and he's been in Korea far longer than any other foreigner overall when you factor in the time he spent at eStro and CJ.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
Stonedviper
Profile Joined April 2011
74 Posts
April 30 2012 02:19 GMT
#518
It's my belief that everyone watches Idra for the same reason people watch Nascar, for the massive fireballs and explosions that happen every so often.
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
April 30 2012 02:20 GMT
#519
Cant believe I missed this. Any vods?
BSOD
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
April 30 2012 02:33 GMT
#520
On April 30 2012 11:20 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
Cant believe I missed this. Any vods?


I don't think you missed much.. t_t
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
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