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EG.lectR
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States617 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 00:50:51
April 28 2012 00:43 GMT
#1
[image loading]


Times: 11:00AM PST = 2:00PM EST = 20:00 CEST = 5:00KST (Monday)
@colindeshong
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
April 28 2012 00:44 GMT
#2
I can't believe I am going to miss this T.T
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DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
April 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#3
HuK takes this, easily
theMiNUS
Profile Joined January 2011
United States333 Posts
April 28 2012 00:48 GMT
#4
a battle of epic proportions.. the incredible huk vs. the gracken!!!
not idly do the leaves of lorien fall...
Thunderfist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Poland159 Posts
April 28 2012 00:48 GMT
#5
Their faces on this poster.

Hi hi hi hi KEKEKEEKKEKEKEKEKEKEKEKE
...has arrived.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
April 28 2012 00:48 GMT
#6
Huk will destroy, idra is terrible atm.
R4iD
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada142 Posts
April 28 2012 00:48 GMT
#7
huk
your either pro or your noob, and thats life
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
April 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#8
HuK 4-1.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 00:49:38
April 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#9
FYI

11:00AM PST = 2:00PM EST = 20:00CET/CEST (which ever EU is using now) = 5:00KST (Monday)
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hypno_toad
Profile Joined December 2010
United States156 Posts
April 28 2012 00:49 GMT
#10
Idra fighting!
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JoRoSaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom143 Posts
April 28 2012 00:50 GMT
#11
This should be an incredibly fun series to watch - I think it may be a bit closer than most think. I predict 4-2 or 4-3 to HuK.
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 28 2012 00:53 GMT
#12
It should be a close series, I'd give Idra the edge to win.
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
April 28 2012 00:53 GMT
#13
That is actually the happiest photo of Idra I've ever seen.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
April 28 2012 00:55 GMT
#14
Huk has the face of a serial killer on that pic, I blame it all on the headset
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#15
And this time it won't be replays of games played over christmas right?
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
Kanidan
Profile Joined October 2011
United States8 Posts
April 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#16
idras got this
memcpy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
April 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#17
yay, 2 of my favorite players! epic rivalry.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
April 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#18
On April 28 2012 09:56 scudst0rm wrote:
And this time it won't be replays of games played over christmas right?


Lets hope EG learned!
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
Linog[e]
Profile Joined April 2012
59 Posts
April 28 2012 01:00 GMT
#19
idra eZ win
'Now you’re in the world of the wolves And we welcome all you sheep'
DemonDeacon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States158 Posts
April 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#20
either way should be a good match.. can't wait!
gg
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#21
Idra won pretty convincingly the last time they met in this tourney, but I don't think it will be as one sided this time. Hoping for 4-2 Idra
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
April 28 2012 01:07 GMT
#22
Huk seemed pretty rusty at MLG so gotta give IdrA a good chance to win this one.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
April 28 2012 01:07 GMT
#23
IdrA won during the regular games, hopefully he can do it again
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
April 28 2012 01:09 GMT
#24
Excited for this! GO HuK!
Duke;
Profile Joined March 2012
Greece8 Posts
April 28 2012 01:11 GMT
#25
Go IdrA ))
( =^;^= ) pika pi
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
April 28 2012 01:14 GMT
#26
Gogo Idra!
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
April 28 2012 01:17 GMT
#27
Huk looks like he is under open eye hypnosis in that picture. creepy. Idra is has a tiny tiny smirk on his face. Maybe he is the hypnotic controller
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NinjaSpaz
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom1 Post
April 28 2012 01:17 GMT
#28
I really want Idra to win, he needs the boost. But sadly i cant see it happening!!
Personally, I would have tried harder
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
April 28 2012 01:23 GMT
#29
can't see huk losing it...
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MetalPanda
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1152 Posts
April 28 2012 01:24 GMT
#30
Really? I didn't expect Idra fans to actually think Idra can win right now.
Huk didn't do too good in the MLG, but Idra isn't a Korean, is weak vs Protoss, doesn't win at all recently. Let's not forget they know each others' style a lot.
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
April 28 2012 01:26 GMT
#31
Hoping that Idra can pull out the W, but honestly i think HuK has this
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CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 01:31:00
April 28 2012 01:28 GMT
#32
Obligatory:
Poll: Who Wins?

Huk (88)
 
61%

Idra (56)
 
39%

144 total votes

Your vote: Who Wins?

(Vote): Idra
(Vote): Huk



Poll: Score?

4-1 Huk (36)
 
22%

4-2 Huk (34)
 
21%

4-3 Idra (20)
 
12%

4-2 Idra (19)
 
12%

4-0 Idra (19)
 
12%

4-0 Huk (16)
 
10%

4-3 Huk (12)
 
7%

4-1 Idra (6)
 
4%

162 total votes

Your vote: Score?

(Vote): 4-0 Huk
(Vote): 4-1 Huk
(Vote): 4-2 Huk
(Vote): 4-3 Huk
(Vote): 4-3 Idra
(Vote): 4-2 Idra
(Vote): 4-1 Idra
(Vote): 4-0 Idra


Micro your Macro
Mystogun
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States392 Posts
April 28 2012 01:33 GMT
#33
I can't see IdrA taking this tbh, his attitude v Protoss is pretty terrible. If he loses the first game I expect a pretty clean sweep.
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ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
April 28 2012 01:37 GMT
#34
love the poster
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
ClairvoyanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
United States758 Posts
April 28 2012 01:37 GMT
#35
4-2 huk! gogo ~ :D:D will be great games.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
April 28 2012 01:39 GMT
#36
How old are these games going to be?
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BoondockVeritas
Profile Joined August 2010
United States191 Posts
April 28 2012 01:40 GMT
#37
I hope for 4-1 Huk winning. Not 4-0 because I want to see him lose the 3rd game and then act like idra and say some bm stuff about balance before winning 5th game for the series
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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
April 28 2012 01:46 GMT
#38
Meh, the rivalry was better before Huk joined EG... perhaps if loser has to sleep outside that'll make the stakes more appealing to watch.
FlashDave.999 aka Star
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 28 2012 01:47 GMT
#39
Why... why do I have to miss this... would love to see the massive Idra rage :p
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
_Skilgannon_
Profile Joined March 2012
15 Posts
April 28 2012 01:49 GMT
#40
Hey kids. IdrA has already beat HuK 3-1 this tournament.
All of these landslide predictions are erroneous.
Arghnews
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom169 Posts
April 28 2012 01:49 GMT
#41
Huk beats Koreans up in their backyard's backyard tourney for a living. Idra practices hard in the US and can't seem to produce results. I think we all know who's going to take this 4-1
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
April 28 2012 01:59 GMT
#42
Is this going to be live? Or played before Christmas like the rest of the games from this tournament?
hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
April 28 2012 02:04 GMT
#43
I think HuK will have this!!!
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
April 28 2012 02:05 GMT
#44
oh baby! While Idra has been vocally struggling in ZvP, he usually has Huk's number, should be great games!
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EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
April 28 2012 02:08 GMT
#45
IdrA beat HuK handily a month ago. Could go either way.
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
April 28 2012 02:09 GMT
#46
at first i was like "ohh liquid vs eg epic bo7" nice marketing agreement.
nvm t.t
but, i wanna see this! gogo idra..or huk...or idra..or huk...and idra...
fuck

The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
April 28 2012 02:11 GMT
#47
Idra won last time... I wouldn't call Huk so easily. Idra usually beats Huk.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 07:37:36
April 28 2012 02:12 GMT
#48
Huk 4-1, one game being a cannon rush.

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Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
April 28 2012 02:15 GMT
#49
Game 1: Hallucinations
Game 2: 10 pool vs FFE
Game 3: Standard
Game 4: Standard
Game 5: CANNONS!
Game 6: 2 base timing
Game 7: Not needed

gogo baseless predictions!
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
Lavalamp799
Profile Joined March 2011
United States554 Posts
April 28 2012 02:22 GMT
#50
When were these games played, 3 months ago again?
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 28 2012 02:23 GMT
#51
Where's the stream info? You'd think that would be important, no?

I know it's obviously going to be onemoregametv, but come on.
juicy
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia145 Posts
April 28 2012 02:25 GMT
#52
HuK 4-2

As much as I'd love IdrA to win ...

IDRA FIGHTING!
EG.lectR
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States617 Posts
April 28 2012 02:26 GMT
#53
On April 28 2012 11:23 Jinsho wrote:
Where's the stream info? You'd think that would be important, no?

I know it's obviously going to be onemoregametv, but come on.


You are a prophet.
@colindeshong
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 02:30:20
April 28 2012 02:30 GMT
#54
I know. Thanks. I will also predict the result as well. IdrA wins 4 to 2 depending on map pool.
Mactavian
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada60 Posts
April 28 2012 02:32 GMT
#55
Huk Fighting!!
Nothing is impossible, only too expensive.
ChairManMao467
Profile Joined September 2011
United States35 Posts
April 28 2012 02:35 GMT
#56
Huk 4-0. Idra's ZvP is just atrocious compared to his other matchups.
zwert
Profile Joined March 2011
13 Posts
April 28 2012 02:40 GMT
#57
If they weren't in the same team i would say Huk wins this easy. Huks over aggressive style and Idras quirk to not playout games he think he already lost speak for Huk.
Betelgeuse
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada210 Posts
April 28 2012 02:44 GMT
#58
For cast for today is Huk winning 4-2; 100% chance of idra rage.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
Rulker
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States1477 Posts
April 28 2012 02:46 GMT
#59
idra 4-2
huk has bad pvz and idra looks amazing atm
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
April 28 2012 02:46 GMT
#60
Pretty stoked for this.. but it's almost a little too late at this point, with neither player being as dominant as they were in past. Hope they both get their games (and head) straightened out and have an epic heavyweight match.. I'd guess 4-1/4-0 if Huk wins the first game (accounting for the Idra tilt factor), or 4-2 if Idra wins game 1.
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
April 28 2012 02:53 GMT
#61
HuK with a mothership rush to win game 7
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
April 28 2012 03:01 GMT
#62
this is probably BOTH of their worst matchups.

if huk managed to copy some better two base all ins, or waits till he has 2 vortex's before pushing... he should win this series.
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thegiantnome
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States125 Posts
April 28 2012 03:07 GMT
#63
Hahaha huk 4-1. Yeah didn't IdrA beat Huk earlier in this same tournament? No its gonna be like 4-3 or 4-2 for IdrA.
Today is a great day to forget all your problems and create bigger new ones- Dane Cook
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
April 28 2012 03:09 GMT
#64
i hope its not a game from 9 months ago >_<
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
April 28 2012 03:18 GMT
#65
Right now Huk outclasses Idra.
Chicken gank op
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
April 28 2012 03:23 GMT
#66
idra will get way ahead then lose
fuck lag
Messi
Profile Joined September 2011
United States212 Posts
April 28 2012 03:24 GMT
#67
NICE
Tx3Jorge
Profile Joined September 2011
United States32 Posts
April 28 2012 03:30 GMT
#68
this happens april 30th right?
smd bro, smd.
PAYBACK-SXE
Profile Joined April 2011
United States150 Posts
April 28 2012 03:31 GMT
#69
my body is ready
PAYBACK ABOVE ALL ELSE
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
April 28 2012 03:34 GMT
#70
but huk and idra already played their most evil genius bo5?
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GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
April 28 2012 03:34 GMT
#71
if it's idra vs huk, why is machine on the poster?:p
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JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
April 28 2012 03:35 GMT
#72
On April 28 2012 12:18 Belha wrote:
Right now Huk outclasses Idra.

I agree, but I bet Huk will "keep things interesting". In recent matches he either trashes idra or does something inexplicably bad to lose. It seems as though he doesn't bring his A game when playing idra, perhaps due to their friendship. I can't see the series being any more lopsided than 4-2.
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 28 2012 03:42 GMT
#73
hate to say it but im not the least bit surprised that these 2 made it to the finals
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Attsy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States30 Posts
April 28 2012 04:07 GMT
#74
There will be hydras.
RmoteCntrld
Profile Joined June 2010
United States596 Posts
April 28 2012 04:13 GMT
#75
Sorry IdrA I love you and all but... you're facing a good protoss so you know
logikly
Profile Joined February 2009
United States329 Posts
April 28 2012 04:16 GMT
#76
Huk 4-1 or 4-0
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Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
April 28 2012 04:29 GMT
#77
I can feel it coming in the air tonight
hold on
ive been waiting for this moment for all my life
hold on
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
MountainGoat
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States507 Posts
April 28 2012 04:35 GMT
#78
Will this be played live or from replays? If replays when are they from?
EG.lectR
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States617 Posts
April 28 2012 04:42 GMT
#79
On April 28 2012 13:35 MountainGoat wrote:
Will this be played live or from replays? If replays when are they from?


Replays and within 4 days of being played.
@colindeshong
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 28 2012 04:46 GMT
#80
On April 28 2012 13:42 EG.lectR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 13:35 MountainGoat wrote:
Will this be played live or from replays? If replays when are they from?


Replays and within 4 days of being played.

which means they played it at the EG lair so no lag factor.
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TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
April 28 2012 05:48 GMT
#81
THE GRACK
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
April 28 2012 05:53 GMT
#82
Wow I honestly forgot all about this. Hopefully Idra can make it close, but HuK is definitely going to win it.
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 28 2012 05:53 GMT
#83
expecting Idra 4-0
DrHiggins
Profile Joined April 2012
United States26 Posts
April 28 2012 05:59 GMT
#84
Wow, HuK and IdrA look so different in how they're usually perceived in this picture. IdrA is almost smiling and HuK has this badass "I'm gonna f*** you up" look. Should be some good games :D
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
April 28 2012 06:03 GMT
#85
Idra in a ZvP

um

yeah
ffxiv enjoyer
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
April 28 2012 06:24 GMT
#86
My Canadian homie Huk is going to take this one. I believe.
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kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
April 28 2012 06:30 GMT
#87
would be interesting if it wouldn't be in an eg tournament.
Doomwish
Profile Joined July 2011
438 Posts
April 28 2012 06:40 GMT
#88
On April 28 2012 15:30 kinglemon wrote:
would be interesting if it wouldn't be in an eg tournament.


lol..wtf is that supposed to mean? the title of the tourney is "Most Evil Genius". It was an in - house tournament for team EG.

I like both these players but i find it hilarious how people claim IdrA cant beat Huk -when almost every series they played in a tournament IdrA won (including earlier on in this tourney when idra won 3-1)
jeremysaint
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada80 Posts
April 28 2012 07:17 GMT
#89
idra rage quits before the series even starts, and they have to bring in last minute replacement incontrol.
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
April 28 2012 07:28 GMT
#90
Idra always has Huk's card. So has Huk Idra's. It will be a close matchup
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
April 28 2012 07:35 GMT
#91
As awesome as this sounds on paper... HuK should have this easily, predicting 4-1 or so.
emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
April 28 2012 07:36 GMT
#92
LOL Demuslim better than both imo
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JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
April 28 2012 07:36 GMT
#93
Hmmm I think if IdrA prepares some good tournament style games rather than playing in ladder fashion, we should have some really really good games
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
iSmoke
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada34 Posts
April 28 2012 07:38 GMT
#94
4-0 huk
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MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
April 28 2012 07:48 GMT
#95
Huk going to win EZ PZ LMN SQZ. In all seriousness, I don't feel like Idra is that strong of a player anymore and he is easy to beat mentally. I feel like Idra can take a few games off Huk, but Huk is all around more solid and a stronger player.
Elegance, in all things.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
April 28 2012 07:51 GMT
#96
NOOOOO i am going to miss this eh ill catch the EU rebrod i guess
No Artosis, you are robin
Makuly
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Taiwan54 Posts
April 28 2012 07:51 GMT
#97
i think idra's got this, unless huk has some new strat up his sleeve!
Siggeh
Profile Joined January 2012
Norway71 Posts
April 28 2012 07:52 GMT
#98
Idra takes this : )
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
April 28 2012 08:01 GMT
#99
What comes down to this?
What's 2pm EST in European time? I figure it's gonna be late at night.
show.me
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden37 Posts
April 28 2012 08:10 GMT
#100
HuK 4-0 and IdrA leaves every game too early and without a gg.
Sata_
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium82 Posts
April 28 2012 08:15 GMT
#101
huk wins 4-2
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
April 28 2012 08:39 GMT
#102
While Idra hasn't been playing up to his potiential as of late- I'm always looking for his return to power, so i'm going with Idra 4-2
We Live to Die
Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
April 28 2012 08:57 GMT
#103
Since Idra can't play ZvP... HuK is gonna take this with ease.
MaNaVoId
Profile Joined February 2012
492 Posts
April 28 2012 09:24 GMT
#104
idra definitely can take down huk
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
April 28 2012 09:55 GMT
#105
So excited about this.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
eDifana
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden11 Posts
April 28 2012 10:22 GMT
#106
!!!
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
IronyDK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Denmark142 Posts
April 28 2012 10:25 GMT
#107
--- Nuked ---
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
April 28 2012 10:35 GMT
#108
idra win ez
IM & EG supporter
Rossen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark177 Posts
April 28 2012 10:38 GMT
#109
O_O... HuK you look stone cold.... HuK fighting! <3.
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
April 28 2012 10:42 GMT
#110
This will be in the middle of city vs united?
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
narkissos
Profile Joined December 2011
198 Posts
April 28 2012 10:45 GMT
#111
Are HuK gonna throw the game like last time or play for real?
Majynx
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1431 Posts
April 28 2012 11:14 GMT
#112
I hope these games are close. Idra has been struggling in his ZvP as of late, but since they are teammates, hopefully they'll put on a good showing. I would like to see a 6 or 7 game series.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 28 2012 11:14 GMT
#113
this should be onesided
beep boop
fingerwaggin
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation167 Posts
April 28 2012 11:21 GMT
#114
gogogo HuK ♥
MMOwnageSports
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom300 Posts
April 28 2012 11:45 GMT
#115
HuK's hair.
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Woosixion
Profile Joined February 2012
120 Posts
April 28 2012 11:48 GMT
#116
idra may be terrible as of late...but huk isnt exactly stomping nerds faces in atm either...
the only way out is through...
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
April 28 2012 12:00 GMT
#117
sounds like a lot of fun. Ill tune in for sure.
4649!!
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
April 28 2012 12:04 GMT
#118
Oh dear, poor Idra....
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Ariuz
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany39 Posts
April 28 2012 12:07 GMT
#119
idrA looks actually happy on this photo.
I think HuK got this, IdrA is not in his best shape atm.
Reaper :D
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands11 Posts
April 28 2012 12:10 GMT
#120
True story IdrA actually looks happy.
HuK!
Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
April 28 2012 12:11 GMT
#121
To bad huk most likely will crysh idra..
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
April 28 2012 12:20 GMT
#122
And of course I wont be able to watch it. This sounds so cool. Do have a feeling that HuK can steamroll this.
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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
April 28 2012 12:26 GMT
#123
huk got badly exposed at MLG, idra will probably win but it is zvp so
Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
April 28 2012 12:40 GMT
#124
Aww man, such a bad pic of Idra as compared to Huk's He looks happy, rather than evil D:
I'm a salt-lord and hater of mech and ForGG, don't take me seriously, it's just my salt-humour speaking i swear. |KadaverBB best TL gaoler| |~IdrA's #1 fan~| SetGuitarsToKill and Duckk are my martyr heroes |
An2quamaraN
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland379 Posts
April 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#125
On April 28 2012 17:57 Fleshcut wrote:
Since Idra can't play ZvP... HuK is gonna take this with ease.


But on the other hand Huk can't play PvZ...
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
April 28 2012 13:15 GMT
#126
On April 28 2012 21:40 Aocowns wrote:
Aww man, such a bad pic of Idra as compared to Huk's He looks happy, rather than evil D:

Happy idra probably indicate something evil, yeah?
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
April 28 2012 13:20 GMT
#127
I don't think Idra will take a single game off Huk, unless Huk does something cute like probe rush.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 13:28:14
April 28 2012 13:26 GMT
#128
only if its live -.-

But i thik Idra to take it, since its a show match i think huk is less likely to do some overagressive near cheese 1-2 base play. So since idra doesn't have to worry about cheese hes got this.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
How2getMaster
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany124 Posts
April 28 2012 13:45 GMT
#129
I hope for some nice builds vs Zerg, hehe ^^

Greetings.
DiamondToss looking for a team :)
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
April 28 2012 14:12 GMT
#130
On April 28 2012 21:45 An2quamaraN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 17:57 Fleshcut wrote:
Since Idra can't play ZvP... HuK is gonna take this with ease.


But on the other hand Huk can't play PvZ...


well, he can probably play it better than any other foreign protoss
beep boop
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13926 Posts
April 28 2012 14:14 GMT
#131
that poster is so good I'm going to watch this.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
April 28 2012 14:26 GMT
#132
has anyone here actually been watching the most evil genius tournament?
i know it was a while ago but idra took HuK out in the group stage, quite easily as well 3-1 i believe
Id want HuK to win but i cant see him beating idra

But thats irelivant cos it looks like its HuK vs Machine judging by the pic in the op
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 28 2012 15:24 GMT
#133
20:00 CEST? It's a date!
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Zortek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark36 Posts
April 28 2012 16:10 GMT
#134
GONNA BE EPIC but HuK will take it 4-2
MarineKing, IMMvp <3
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
April 28 2012 16:12 GMT
#135
this should be good, i hope to see some cheeses from huk
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
System42
Profile Joined August 2011
172 Posts
April 28 2012 16:16 GMT
#136
this is so dumb like its not even that big of a rival anymore its nothing now.. So all we get to see is which 2 base allins Huk is going to do this time.
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
April 28 2012 16:35 GMT
#137
i predict a huk 4-0 hm
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
confusedcrib
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1307 Posts
April 28 2012 16:36 GMT
#138
Idra's smile is bigger than Huk's!?
I'm a writer for TeamLiquid, you've probably heard of me
andReslic
Profile Joined January 2012
216 Posts
April 28 2012 16:47 GMT
#139
this is so one sided
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 28 2012 16:50 GMT
#140
Easy win for Huk, the only truly good player on EG
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 28 2012 16:51 GMT
#141
On April 28 2012 23:12 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 21:45 An2quamaraN wrote:
On April 28 2012 17:57 Fleshcut wrote:
Since Idra can't play ZvP... HuK is gonna take this with ease.


But on the other hand Huk can't play PvZ...


well, he can probably play it better than any other foreign protoss


No he cant he is quite horrible in that matchup allways been his main weakness. Huk would allmost autolose to any top foreign zerg. But the quistion are whos worse Huk PvZ or Idra´s ZvP. I do think Huk are abit better so i expect he will pull true
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Ragados
Profile Joined November 2011
30 Posts
April 28 2012 17:21 GMT
#142
already started preparation with mountain dew, HDTV, and a shitload of dominoes.
aghull
Profile Joined November 2010
46 Posts
April 28 2012 18:13 GMT
#143
is there a free stream?
GleaM
Profile Joined June 2011
United States207 Posts
April 28 2012 18:44 GMT
#144
Who could have seen this coming... I really thought the finals would be iNcontrol and Machine!!


[trololol]
Bruky
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic161 Posts
April 28 2012 18:46 GMT
#145
gogo idra
ZisforZerg
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States224 Posts
April 28 2012 18:55 GMT
#146
What was good vs. evil has turned into Evil vs. Evil[er], gotta love it.
"I'm too drunk, to taste that chicken."
TelosGhastly
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden1 Post
April 28 2012 19:08 GMT
#147
Don't count InControl, he is the man
FoBoTheBush
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden41 Posts
April 28 2012 19:08 GMT
#148
On April 28 2012 09:47 DYEAlabaster wrote:
HuK takes this, easily


last time they played idra destroyed Huk, and i know he will again
idrA " if you put all the greatest foreigners in a team they could definitely compete with the Koreans"
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
April 28 2012 19:12 GMT
#149
Gonna take Idra. Huk in a pretty big slump it seems.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Espada
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada2 Posts
April 28 2012 19:28 GMT
#150
who's streaming this?
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
April 28 2012 19:39 GMT
#151
sounds nice

if huk is even close to being in shape he should not have a problem smashing idra
idra is just not impressing at all lately

on the other hand huk's play wasn't impressive either lately
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
AcOrP
Profile Joined November 2009
Bulgaria148 Posts
April 28 2012 20:33 GMT
#152
I won't watch it IdrA and HuK are not on the highest level of play Code B. I want NaNiwa vs Stephano showmatch hope we see it soon.
Xillzin
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands7 Posts
April 28 2012 20:53 GMT
#153
must...

see...
I'm a thorn... i like to hang around eyes and other painfull places
iSuperInsane
Profile Joined April 2012
United States21 Posts
April 28 2012 20:55 GMT
#154
big fan of HuK. dont really like idra, Huk has idras number in this one. pho sho
Keel Calm and Force Field Ramp
Peak123
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden29 Posts
April 28 2012 20:57 GMT
#155
rofl 4-0 to Huk..
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-28 21:06:38
April 28 2012 21:06 GMT
#156
huk 4-2 cause he troll 2 games
therwise i say huk 4-0


On April 29 2012 05:33 AcOrP wrote:
I won't watch it IdrA and HuK are not on the highest level of play Code B. I want NaNiwa vs Stephano showmatch hope we see it soon.



troll allert !!!
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 28 2012 21:18 GMT
#157
Idra better win
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
SchoKoala
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany15 Posts
April 28 2012 21:18 GMT
#158
HuK will destroy Idra with halluc Voidrays.
TLO! Ignore these haters. We love u! Just do your best. <3
TemujinGK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States483 Posts
April 28 2012 21:38 GMT
#159
HuK 4: 2 IdrA with at least 1 7 pool.
"Pikachu and Protoss are both yellow, Coincidence?" ~apexMorroW
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
April 28 2012 21:59 GMT
#160
On April 29 2012 01:51 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2012 23:12 7mk wrote:
On April 28 2012 21:45 An2quamaraN wrote:
On April 28 2012 17:57 Fleshcut wrote:
Since Idra can't play ZvP... HuK is gonna take this with ease.


But on the other hand Huk can't play PvZ...


well, he can probably play it better than any other foreign protoss


No he cant he is quite horrible in that matchup allways been his main weakness. Huk would allmost autolose to any top foreign zerg. But the quistion are whos worse Huk PvZ or Idra´s ZvP. I do think Huk are abit better so i expect he will pull true



Huk has bad PvZ? wait what....? Huks beaten ret,lucky violet etc that's his strong match up, lol....
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viCeM
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany10 Posts
April 28 2012 23:06 GMT
#161
yes primetime ! hope huk takes this :D
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
April 28 2012 23:17 GMT
#162
On April 29 2012 01:50 mordk wrote:
Easy win for Huk, the only truly good player on EG

Whoa there. Not that I'm a big fan of his, but I'm sure most would agree that Puma is a good player.

Regarding the match, I guess HuK is the favourite, but I haven't seen much of him or IdrA lately so I have no idea.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
April 28 2012 23:21 GMT
#163
Huk 4-0 gg. Just kidding, at least I hope. I'd like to see a close series between them, but I'm still skeptical if Idra will give a good show-match for us.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6928 Posts
April 29 2012 00:03 GMT
#164
Puma and JYP are pretty good actually, maybe not GSL material but apparently neither is HuK

Still high level of talent

IdrA, i don't know, havent't seen any good results from him lately. Good NA player but i guess that's it

KR > EU > NA :D
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
April 29 2012 00:42 GMT
#165
Anyone know if this is on the most recent patch, or was it played back in like December or something?
HOLY CHECK!
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
April 29 2012 00:51 GMT
#166
On April 29 2012 09:03 Harris1st wrote:
Puma and JYP are pretty good actually, maybe not GSL material but apparently neither is HuK

Still high level of talent

IdrA, i don't know, havent't seen any good results from him lately. Good NA player but i guess that's it

KR > EU > NA :D


JYP won his 1st round Code A match lol.
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 29 2012 01:04 GMT
#167
Wait, what is this? Is this just a showmatch or what???
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
scudst0rm
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1149 Posts
April 29 2012 01:14 GMT
#168
On April 29 2012 10:04 Havik_ wrote:
Wait, what is this? Is this just a showmatch or what???


It's the finals of a small in house tournament for EG
You're like a one ranger army comin' at me...
CakeMaster
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada65 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 01:40:12
April 29 2012 01:36 GMT
#169
HuK beat Taeja 2-1, and GanZi 2-0. Those are terran, but their skill levels are still amazing. Also, he took a game off DRG. Unfortunately IdrA hasnt played in any tournaments recently, but I still think HuK will take it.
TLPD Statistics:
Recent Games (In Tournaments):
IdrA 3-1 HuK (Most Evil Genius)
HuK 2-0 IdrA (Dreamhack Winter 2011)
HuK 2-0 IdrA (Blizzard N.A. Invitational)
HuK 2-1 IdrA (HomeStory Cup #3)
IdrA 2-0 HuK (MLG Dallas 2011)
HuK PvZ Record (Rounded): Korea:49% International:56%
IdrA ZvP Record (Rounded): Korea:50% International:57%
Links:
Korea: (P)HuK (Z)IdrA
International: (P)HuK (Z)IdrA
Liquipedia: (Wiki)HuK (Wiki)IdrA
Edit: I was bored.
EG.HuK Fighting!
tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
April 29 2012 01:43 GMT
#170
IDRA all the way! gl gl Gracken
t to the redogz, tredogz
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
April 29 2012 01:50 GMT
#171
Is Huk still in the US? I know he mentioned staying for a bit after MLG.

Cross server or not?
spancho
Profile Joined September 2009
United States161 Posts
April 29 2012 02:04 GMT
#172
I love hype posters of Huk. They always try to make him look all badass, when he is just so lovable and cute.
"Your face can't hurt 'cuz you're ugly." -Tasteless
achristes
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Norway653 Posts
April 29 2012 02:12 GMT
#173
HuK should be able to win ez, but you never know...
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Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
April 29 2012 02:25 GMT
#174
Should be a fun match, I can't wait.
motumbo
Profile Joined February 2011
United States130 Posts
April 29 2012 02:38 GMT
#175
4-2 Huk ezpz
Znof
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7 Posts
April 29 2012 02:40 GMT
#176
Doesnt Idra hate showmatches?
Seal Stalkers have Arrived
FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 02:53:33
April 29 2012 02:53 GMT
#177
Huk gonna pwn

Edit wrong thread D:
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High[5]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States61 Posts
April 29 2012 02:56 GMT
#178
So does anyone know how long ago these games were played?
CommanchyWattkins
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada117 Posts
April 29 2012 03:08 GMT
#179
Hukaleece vs the Graken :DDDDDD
SOOOOOO going to watch this while writing essay tomorrow
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
April 29 2012 04:00 GMT
#180
GOGO HuK
Pink Floyd's music is like a beautiful girl walking down the street who won't talk to you.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
April 29 2012 04:07 GMT
#181
On April 29 2012 01:50 mordk wrote:
Easy win for Huk, the only truly good player on EG


Yea. IdrA, Demuslim, Puma, and JYP are all push overs.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 29 2012 04:20 GMT
#182
idra 4-1. huk will take the game idra misses the gateways warping in
get rich or die mining
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GrapeApe
Profile Joined March 2011
1053 Posts
April 29 2012 04:20 GMT
#183
Huk 4-2, maybe even 4-0.
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striderxxx
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada443 Posts
April 29 2012 04:23 GMT
#184
4-1 Huk wins easily. Idra is just really really bad now. Huk may even have to throw some games just to please their sponsors and not completely destroy Idra's fragile ego.
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
April 29 2012 05:21 GMT
#185
If recent performances have anything to do with gameplay, this should be fairly one-sided.
Write your own song!
Dissonance23
Profile Joined September 2010
United States259 Posts
April 29 2012 05:25 GMT
#186
IdrA 4-2 if huk does his normal 2-base all-ins.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 29 2012 05:53 GMT
#187
Huk 4-1 probably.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Twelve12
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia268 Posts
April 29 2012 06:33 GMT
#188
Idras ZvP is his worst matchup so id have to say huk should take this
Chunhyang
Profile Joined December 2011
Bangladesh1389 Posts
April 29 2012 06:46 GMT
#189
Why a best of 7? Just play four games. It will be the same result in favor of Huk anyways.
If you could reason with haters, there would be no haters. YGTMYFT
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
April 29 2012 07:11 GMT
#190
Idra is gonna surprise everyone and beat Huk 4-1
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
CakeMaster
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada65 Posts
April 29 2012 07:13 GMT
#191
On April 29 2012 11:56 High[5] wrote:
So does anyone know how long ago these games were played?

All games are played within 4 days of the live stream.
EG.HuK Fighting!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
April 29 2012 07:14 GMT
#192
On April 29 2012 10:36 CakeMaster wrote:
HuK beat Taeja 2-1, and GanZi 2-0. Those are terran, but their skill levels are still amazing. Also, he took a game off DRG. Unfortunately IdrA hasnt played in any tournaments recently, but I still think HuK will take it.
TLPD Statistics:
Recent Games (In Tournaments):
IdrA 3-1 HuK (Most Evil Genius)
HuK 2-0 IdrA (Dreamhack Winter 2011)
HuK 2-0 IdrA (Blizzard N.A. Invitational)
HuK 2-1 IdrA (HomeStory Cup #3)
IdrA 2-0 HuK (MLG Dallas 2011)
HuK PvZ Record (Rounded): Korea:49% International:56%
IdrA ZvP Record (Rounded): Korea:50% International:57%
Links:
Korea: (P)HuK (Z)IdrA
International: (P)HuK (Z)IdrA
Liquipedia: (Wiki)HuK (Wiki)IdrA
Edit: I was bored.


Heh, to be fair that's not the whole story with MLG Dallas. I believe it ended up being 4-2 Idra overall, as HuK famously won their first encounter at that tournament 2-1 with hallucinated voidrays (just saying, you weren't loss!) and then winning the third game because Idra was a little tilted. Then they met again in the championship bracket and Idra beat HuK three games in a row, leaving their final score 4-2 Idra.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
April 29 2012 07:47 GMT
#193
On April 29 2012 16:14 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2012 10:36 CakeMaster wrote:
HuK beat Taeja 2-1, and GanZi 2-0. Those are terran, but their skill levels are still amazing. Also, he took a game off DRG. Unfortunately IdrA hasnt played in any tournaments recently, but I still think HuK will take it.
TLPD Statistics:
Recent Games (In Tournaments):
IdrA 3-1 HuK (Most Evil Genius)
HuK 2-0 IdrA (Dreamhack Winter 2011)
HuK 2-0 IdrA (Blizzard N.A. Invitational)
HuK 2-1 IdrA (HomeStory Cup #3)
IdrA 2-0 HuK (MLG Dallas 2011)
HuK PvZ Record (Rounded): Korea:49% International:56%
IdrA ZvP Record (Rounded): Korea:50% International:57%
Links:
Korea: (P)HuK (Z)IdrA
International: (P)HuK (Z)IdrA
Liquipedia: (Wiki)HuK (Wiki)IdrA
Edit: I was bored.


Heh, to be fair that's not the whole story with MLG Dallas. I believe it ended up being 4-2 Idra overall, as HuK famously won their first encounter at that tournament 2-1 with hallucinated voidrays (just saying, you weren't loss!) and then winning the third game because Idra was a little tilted. Then they met again in the championship bracket and Idra beat HuK three games in a row, leaving their final score 4-2 Idra.

i remember the shit storm of bm that happened then from idra, now it's all about love
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
abar
Profile Joined May 2011
10 Posts
April 29 2012 08:12 GMT
#194
I will have to see that. Let's hope for 4-3!
bigtabs
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany51 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 10:15:30
April 29 2012 09:40 GMT
#195
Where can I see the stream? No info on that in the last 10 pages, apart from other people asking the same thing.

At beyondgaming.com it's pretty much a dead end. I don't really want to sign up to tell people who I think will win. Would be nice if it was explicitly mentioned whether being a member there is a requirement for viewing.
Clairval
Profile Joined August 2011
France37 Posts
April 29 2012 10:01 GMT
#196
On April 28 2012 09:48 Josh_rakoons wrote:
Huk will destroy, idra is terrible atm.


Are we talking about the IdrA that knocked out MVP from Iron Squid this month by 2-0ing him ? Even with the current stepback from MVP, there are very little foreingers who could have done that. So no, IdrA is not terrible, but we might discuss the weaknesses of his ZvP.
CrtBalorda
Profile Joined December 2011
Slovenia704 Posts
April 29 2012 10:12 GMT
#197
Go IdrA!!!!! I feel like IdrA deserves the win, since he was the best bw forigner and Huk wasnt even known, as far as I know.
4th August 2012...Never forget.....
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
April 29 2012 10:41 GMT
#198
Are we still excited by this? Well I don't. Cause it won't be even close. Huk will win with one finger.
Gokba Alhakel
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 29 2012 10:47 GMT
#199
Huk 4:1 IdrA, and that is me being generous.
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
voy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland348 Posts
April 29 2012 11:00 GMT
#200
I know like 10 polish zergs, that are playing like 10x less than Idra and they are still better. a lot better.
I'm a man with a dream. And I look good in jeans. graphic designer looking for freelance work.
NGF
Profile Joined November 2011
Finland30 Posts
April 29 2012 11:13 GMT
#201
2 of my favourite players : HuK will take this 4-3
Taeja - MKP - PartinG - Stephano - Grubby - Mvp
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
April 29 2012 11:53 GMT
#202
i like how the people in this thread seem so confident about either huk or idra is gonna take the series :D makes it that much more exciting
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 11:57:43
April 29 2012 11:54 GMT
#203
HuK 4-1 or 4-0. I can't see Idra beating HuK with his current ZvP at all.
Then again I haven't watched HuK play for a while either...
EDIT: Spring Arena! Well he took a game off DRG, gotta count for something
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
April 29 2012 12:24 GMT
#204
Going to be SOOOOO much banter in this show match haha! Can't wait
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UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
April 29 2012 12:39 GMT
#205
Predicting HuK. Hoping for IdrA.
The Creator of the Universe, LG-IM.NesTea | The Gracken, IdrA | The Spoon Terran, "Big Papa" EG.ThorZaIN --- Fighting!!
251
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 12:46:53
April 29 2012 12:45 GMT
#206
You might want to change the Korean time on the poster. If it's at Sunday 1400 EDT, it would be Monday 0300 KST
"If you can chill..........then chill."
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
April 29 2012 13:11 GMT
#207
5 hours left
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
April 29 2012 13:15 GMT
#208
Is EST = EDT = GMT - 4h? Or does the EDT vary and the EST doesn't. I'm confused.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
April 29 2012 13:19 GMT
#209
hiope no replay casting ffs i want live, shame their rivalry is no longer fun since they became teammates
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
Kreggar
Profile Joined September 2011
United States83 Posts
April 29 2012 14:33 GMT
#210
Huk actually looks more intense than idrA in that poster...whoa. Can't wait to see if the gracken can stand up to his protoss buddy.
StarCraft is the hardest, most beautiful game in the world.
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
April 29 2012 15:23 GMT
#211
umm btw 2 pm EST is actually 3am KST.... not 5am. the poster is wrong?
Terran it up.
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
April 29 2012 15:31 GMT
#212
Huk hallucinates some DT's, runs them into Idra's main and Idra leaves the game. Calling it
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
Drimacus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany92 Posts
April 29 2012 15:33 GMT
#213
You can't hallucinate DT's... calling it.
Cable
Profile Joined January 2011
116 Posts
April 29 2012 15:44 GMT
#214
Worth watching for sure!

It will be live and not casted from replies I assume?
-Napkin
Profile Joined April 2012
United States41 Posts
April 29 2012 15:47 GMT
#215
Is this going to be played live?
PM me for coaching
skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
April 29 2012 15:55 GMT
#216
Bring on the 9gates!

Or even better, why not 10 or 11 gate!?
IAMPRO
Profile Joined November 2011
Afghanistan118 Posts
April 29 2012 15:59 GMT
#217
A match between 2 players who are becoming totally irrelevant. Do not want.
SuHoSin - we'll never forget your genius
Teeky
Profile Joined October 2010
United States84 Posts
April 29 2012 16:11 GMT
#218
On April 30 2012 00:59 IAMPRO wrote:
A match between 2 players who are becoming totally irrelevant. Do not want.

This could help them make a return. They're both still pretty good.

I'll tune in because I'm always rooting for Idra and their back-and-forth can be entertaining.
Hydras are so bad your opponent wants them to stay alive. - Idra, 2011
UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
April 29 2012 16:20 GMT
#219
On April 30 2012 00:59 IAMPRO wrote:
A match between 2 players who are becoming totally irrelevant. Do not want.

They've both cooled off. But I wouldn't say they're totally irrelevant. They're both still good and have potential to come back and do good in the top scene. As the guy above me said, this match is a step in the right direction for both of 'em
The Creator of the Universe, LG-IM.NesTea | The Gracken, IdrA | The Spoon Terran, "Big Papa" EG.ThorZaIN --- Fighting!!
yeastiality
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada374 Posts
April 29 2012 16:40 GMT
#220
On April 30 2012 01:20 UBavarice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 00:59 IAMPRO wrote:
A match between 2 players who are becoming totally irrelevant. Do not want.

They've both cooled off. But I wouldn't say they're totally irrelevant. They're both still good and have potential to come back and do good in the top scene. As the guy above me said, this match is a step in the right direction for both of 'em


I think it's just a step in the same direction, if that makes sense.
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
April 29 2012 16:49 GMT
#221
2 PM est??? WHYYYY
My religion is Starcraft
UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
April 29 2012 16:57 GMT
#222
On April 30 2012 01:40 yeastiality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 01:20 UBavarice wrote:
On April 30 2012 00:59 IAMPRO wrote:
A match between 2 players who are becoming totally irrelevant. Do not want.

They've both cooled off. But I wouldn't say they're totally irrelevant. They're both still good and have potential to come back and do good in the top scene. As the guy above me said, this match is a step in the right direction for both of 'em


I think it's just a step in the same direction, if that makes sense.

Yeah... Could be the case as well.
The Creator of the Universe, LG-IM.NesTea | The Gracken, IdrA | The Spoon Terran, "Big Papa" EG.ThorZaIN --- Fighting!!
CommanchyWattkins
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada117 Posts
April 29 2012 17:44 GMT
#223
Umh what stream will this be on?
Reflect.702
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada16 Posts
April 29 2012 17:45 GMT
#224
^yeah what stream will this be on ~_~
EsMuyVien
Profile Joined July 2011
United States408 Posts
April 29 2012 17:48 GMT
#225
I'm sure it will come up on the TL on air sidebar... But just tell us!
If what I think is happening is happening - it better not be.
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
April 29 2012 17:57 GMT
#226
lol KST time is wrong and there's no stream link
Terran it up.
CommanchyWattkins
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada117 Posts
April 29 2012 17:58 GMT
#227
I tried to click on beyond gaming but that's just a bet website so yeah....
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
April 29 2012 18:02 GMT
#228
stream link:


http://www.twitch.tv/OneMoreGameTV
Terran it up.
inanotherlifetime
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden233 Posts
April 29 2012 18:02 GMT
#229
So excited to watch this! HuK 4 IdrA 3 imo!
Lost & Confused <3 NaNiwa & SaSe
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 29 2012 18:09 GMT
#230
Gogo Huk!


4-1.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Evergrowth
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway21 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 18:15:57
April 29 2012 18:15 GMT
#231
Don't want to miss this!
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 18:20:35
April 29 2012 18:20 GMT
#232
When does it start? Its 20:00 CEST already
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
April 29 2012 18:23 GMT
#233
Wait is this match casted off replays, or is this match going to be played live?
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
April 29 2012 18:25 GMT
#234
Breaking my balls with the start time here fellas... breakin my balls.
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
DrunkenJedi
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany175 Posts
April 29 2012 18:26 GMT
#235
Match canceld or what? Stream is down...
"Don't worry, I use Special Tactics this time, no problem."
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 18:29 GMT
#236
why is the stream still off??
"Expert" mods4ever.com
ZeroSix
Profile Joined March 2011
England54 Posts
April 29 2012 18:30 GMT
#237
IdrA should win this easy. that being said protoss is really imba
Kayzer.
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany79 Posts
April 29 2012 18:30 GMT
#238
the stream actually started on time but there were video and audio problems so they're probably fixing that right now.
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
April 29 2012 18:32 GMT
#239
On April 30 2012 03:30 Kayzer. wrote:
the stream actually started on time but there were video and audio problems so they're probably fixing that right now.

Where did you get that from?
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Kayzer.
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany79 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 18:36:24
April 29 2012 18:33 GMT
#240
i started it at 19:55 CEST and they showed the usual commercials and preview stuff.
then the commentator (forgot his name) started to talk but he realized that there were problems and the stopped the broadcast.

edit: the commentator was DJ Wheat
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
April 29 2012 18:37 GMT
#241
idra prolly gg'd
Terran it up.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 29 2012 18:39 GMT
#242
Going good EG? Fuck it not gonna wait any longer. 40 min late and no word? Yeah.. about that
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
socommaster123
Profile Joined May 2010
United States578 Posts
April 29 2012 18:43 GMT
#243
The stream was up ad had audio issues..... relax nerds go watch something else for a bit.
Idra White Ra Sheth DRG SaSe Thorzain GOGO!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 29 2012 18:45 GMT
#244
Come watch Stephano vs. Lucifron in the GD Studio Arena.
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
April 29 2012 18:45 GMT
#245
I can't wait any longer. I need greg now.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
April 29 2012 18:46 GMT
#246
Huk 4-0
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
April 29 2012 18:47 GMT
#247
On April 30 2012 03:45 Azarkon wrote:
Come watch Stephano vs. Lucifron in the GD Studio Arena.


probably waiting for this to be over
Bearhammer
Profile Joined October 2011
United States49 Posts
April 29 2012 18:48 GMT
#248
~EG Figthing!
"To give less than your best is to sacrfice the gift" -Steve Prefontaine
Sanix
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland37 Posts
April 29 2012 18:49 GMT
#249
stream url?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 18:50 GMT
#250
On April 30 2012 03:47 smwatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 03:45 Azarkon wrote:
Come watch Stephano vs. Lucifron in the GD Studio Arena.


probably waiting for this to be over

then it will be winner vs + Show Spoiler +
titan
, bo7..... doubt they are waiting for this.
smwatkin
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada399 Posts
April 29 2012 18:50 GMT
#251
http://www.twitch.tv/OneMoreGameTV
Toast_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States56 Posts
April 29 2012 18:52 GMT
#252
And at least we have a commercial
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
April 29 2012 18:54 GMT
#253
good to know tuning in fashionably late worked out for once

anyway this should be a pretty one sided roflstomp
aaaaa
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 18:57 GMT
#254
YESS!!!! IT'S ON!!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 18:58 GMT
#255
is DJWheat solocasting? I wish Incontrol would've joined him
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
April 29 2012 18:58 GMT
#256
finally starting!
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
April 29 2012 18:58 GMT
#257
Cheering for idra, but expect huk to take it 4-1 or 4-2. Hope idra proves me wrong.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
Jomppa
Profile Joined July 2011
1225 Posts
April 29 2012 18:59 GMT
#258
Is this played live or replays?
PAYBACK-SXE
Profile Joined April 2011
United States150 Posts
April 29 2012 19:02 GMT
#259
finally.
PAYBACK ABOVE ALL ELSE
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 19:06 GMT
#260
lol. "top 3 control my ass"
Islandsnake
Profile Joined April 2009
United States679 Posts
April 29 2012 19:07 GMT
#261
GEEEGEEEEE
Bang!
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 19:07 GMT
#262
Lol.
actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
April 29 2012 19:08 GMT
#263
that was incredable. i love wheats soundbites. GEE GEE, gj huk top 3 control
It rained today inside my head...
Kayzer.
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany79 Posts
April 29 2012 19:08 GMT
#264
lol. i've waited an hour to see that?
Chessz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States644 Posts
April 29 2012 19:08 GMT
#265
rofl game 1, idra already delivers, i'm starting to think EG has told idra to be as sensational as possible to build their brand, regardless of actuall skill/practice/achievements
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:08 GMT
#266
wow, that was a gr8 ragequit...omg lol idra
skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
April 29 2012 19:08 GMT
#267
The Gracken... what a fearsome beast
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
April 29 2012 19:08 GMT
#268
Looks like this won't take too long.
Bishonen
Profile Joined March 2011
17 Posts
April 29 2012 19:08 GMT
#269
link please?
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
April 29 2012 19:08 GMT
#270
lol oh my god that was sooo funny. trash talk followed by a gg-less exit before a single meaningful engagement. WOW.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
System42
Profile Joined August 2011
172 Posts
April 29 2012 19:09 GMT
#271
thats such a joke they dont even hate eachother there managers probably told them to act like that
so really dont think there is any kind of a rivalry anymore and if you do your dumb.
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:09 GMT
#272
And that was after idra bm'd huk
"Top 3 control my **"
lol...
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
April 29 2012 19:09 GMT
#273
idra has top 3 gg, you cant deny that
North Korea is best Korea!
Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
April 29 2012 19:09 GMT
#274
Poor idra he was just trying to BM
Inject Bitch!
seaofsaturn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States489 Posts
April 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#275
On April 30 2012 03:58 Die4Ever wrote:
is DJWheat solocasting? I wish Incontrol would've joined him


or anyone at all, really.
Photoshop is over-powered.
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
April 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#276
lol, players pictures in the overlay do fit so much right now :D
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
Mithrandror
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium85 Posts
April 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#277
Are these games live or are they some recast of 5 months ago, like previous 'most evil genius'. Btw it's pretty obvious that Idra was instructed to be an even bigger d*ck then he usualy is.
you really want chatrooms?
skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
April 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#278
On April 30 2012 04:08 Kayzer. wrote:
lol. i've waited an hour to see that?

c'mon man. you and i both know this is exactly the kind of match ppl want to see when they idra is playing. then they love to come on the forums whining about it
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
April 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#279
To be fair, he was completely dead (Z has early game scouting problems ORLY blizzard?).
Still always hilarious when loudmouths get owned
11 years and counting- TL #680
PAYBACK-SXE
Profile Joined April 2011
United States150 Posts
April 29 2012 19:10 GMT
#280
worth the wait already
PAYBACK ABOVE ALL ELSE
Jomppa
Profile Joined July 2011
1225 Posts
April 29 2012 19:12 GMT
#281
oh snap
Omegalisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States337 Posts
April 29 2012 19:12 GMT
#282
:D
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
April 29 2012 19:12 GMT
#283
lol idra funny
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 19:13 GMT
#284
lol. idra with more bm. probably going to be another 9 minute game with him "gg"ing
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 19:14:35
April 29 2012 19:13 GMT
#285
Idra and HuK have some of the best in-game banter.


On April 30 2012 04:13 dAPhREAk wrote:
lol. idra with more bm. probably going to be another 9 minute game with him "gg"ing

If you think that is "real" bm, may there be mercy on your soul.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 29 2012 19:27 GMT
#286
Cool fast hive build, but may not be enough. I can see Idra just thinking "You play ZvP wrong, they said. Just go broodlord infestor, they said. Unbeatable army, they said. Pfft, fucking protoss" heh. But, still in it, let's see if he can pull it out.
pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
April 29 2012 19:28 GMT
#287
fuckin epic
EG-TL!
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 29 2012 19:29 GMT
#288
this is one awesome back and forth.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 19:32 GMT
#289
does idra have double spire upgrading? i havent seen any upgrades on air.
Hens
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany288 Posts
April 29 2012 19:34 GMT
#290
go afk, let 10 Infestors get sucked in a Vortex, not that well played by IdrA i think.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 19:34 GMT
#291
IDRA STOP CLUMPING BROODS
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 19:34 GMT
#292
On April 30 2012 04:32 dAPhREAk wrote:
does idra have double spire upgrading? i havent seen any upgrades on air.


Yea, he got 2 Spires, at least had them earlier.
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
April 29 2012 19:35 GMT
#293
dem archon toilets

a useful talent toi have indeed
North Korea is best Korea!
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 19:35 GMT
#294
GOD THAT WAS CLOSE
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 19:36 GMT
#295
Welp..
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:36 GMT
#296
very well played, gg 2-0 to huk
mengsk83
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany519 Posts
April 29 2012 19:36 GMT
#297
Idra played that so terribly bad...
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
April 29 2012 19:36 GMT
#298
is the stream randomly cutting for anyone else?
DJwheat: THIS IS ABSOL-
stream dead.
North Korea is best Korea!
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 29 2012 19:36 GMT
#299
On April 30 2012 04:36 amd098 wrote:
is the stream randomly cutting for anyone else?
DJwheat: THIS IS ABSOL-
stream dead.

Nope
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#300
no gg from idra haha
Jomppa
Profile Joined July 2011
1225 Posts
April 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#301
On April 30 2012 04:36 amd098 wrote:
is the stream randomly cutting for anyone else?
DJwheat: THIS IS ABSOL-
stream dead.

stream is perfect for me
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
April 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#302
Well that was terrible control.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#303
"this is absolutely...." stream crash. =(
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#304
Geez vortex is silly. Obviously I realize that its needed to beat broodlord infestor, but vortex just makes fights so dumb.
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
April 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#305
Split Broods?
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 29 2012 19:37 GMT
#306
No gg vs a teammate
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 19:39 GMT
#307
If you land an Infestor in the Protoss main late game to steal a Probe, can you load it to the Overlord and steal it?

(To get Templars to Feedback the Mothership )
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 29 2012 19:39 GMT
#308
dat mothership : 0
Greed leads to just about all losses.
applejack
Profile Joined December 2011
France10 Posts
April 29 2012 19:41 GMT
#309
Was a good game anyway :-)
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 19:41 GMT
#310
6 POOL!!!!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
April 29 2012 19:41 GMT
#311
6 pool...
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:42 GMT
#312
yes 6 pool from idra!
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 19:42 GMT
#313
Hahaha...
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
April 29 2012 19:43 GMT
#314
Wrong way Grack.
Hens
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany288 Posts
April 29 2012 19:43 GMT
#315
like there is a chance he is not gonna 6pool on taldarim, Nexus first seems a bit redundand.
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
April 29 2012 19:43 GMT
#316
i wonder if idra will gg when he sees the cannon
North Korea is best Korea!
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
April 29 2012 19:43 GMT
#317
pre-emptive broodlord splitting > vortex. There has to be something mechanically difficult about it though for how many pros seem to not do it sufficiently.

great game though. would like to see another game like that.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 19:45:00
April 29 2012 19:44 GMT
#318
On April 30 2012 04:37 Gorlin wrote:
Geez vortex is silly. Obviously I realize that its needed to beat broodlord infestor, but vortex just makes fights so dumb.


People will whine about anything. What do you do you want protoss v zerg late game to look like then? Vortex forces position jockeying, looking for openings, knowing when to engage, etc. That entire late game were them looking for holes in each other's position and making small trades while fighting for expansions. That seems to be about the best you can expect from protoss v zerg late game. Sorry that it's not a four-screen-wide battle of constant feedback, fungals, carriers, broodlords, and voidrays?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 19:45 GMT
#319
oh god this 6 pool is not going well for Idra
"Expert" mods4ever.com
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 19:46 GMT
#320
surprised idra hasnt left yet. he is very far behind.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
April 29 2012 19:46 GMT
#321
Well, at least the 2nd game showed that without the morhtership, PvZ in HotS will be absolutely broken lategame :/
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 29 2012 19:46 GMT
#322
I laughed when HuK went Nexus first vs the 6 pool and didn't die!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
April 29 2012 19:48 GMT
#323
Standard nydusHydras?
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
Akash1223
Profile Joined March 2011
United States91 Posts
April 29 2012 19:48 GMT
#324
On April 30 2012 04:44 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:37 Gorlin wrote:
Geez vortex is silly. Obviously I realize that its needed to beat broodlord infestor, but vortex just makes fights so dumb.


People will whine about anything. What do you do you want protoss v zerg late game to look like then? Vortex forces position jockeying, looking for openings, knowing when to engage, etc. That entire late game were them looking for holes in each other's position and making small trades while fighting for expansions. That seems to be about the best you can expect from protoss v zerg late game. Sorry that it's not a four-screen-wide battle of constant feedback, fungals, carriers, broodlords, and voidrays?


If there was no vortex, PvZ late game would look more like TvZ late game. P would have to rely more or harassment with blink stalkers and warp prisms to abuse the immobility of broodlords. It's pretty safe to say that's alot more exciting to watch than waiting to see if a vortex hits or misses.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 19:48 GMT
#325
IDRA IS MAKING HYDRAS AGAIN WTF
"Expert" mods4ever.com
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:49 GMT
#326
LOL replay that please wheat.
wow idra, what are you doing?
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 19:49 GMT
#327
Jesus...
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 19:49 GMT
#328
ahahaha god damnit, Idra please win some games...
"Expert" mods4ever.com
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 29 2012 19:49 GMT
#329
lolol dj wheat i love you
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Mithrandror
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium85 Posts
April 29 2012 19:49 GMT
#330
why the heck are they showing replays? Is it so much to ask to broadcast a live game, so shitty....
you really want chatrooms?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 19:49 GMT
#331
On April 30 2012 04:49 Die4Ever wrote:
ahahaha god damnit, Idra please win some games...

seriously.... =(
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 29 2012 19:50 GMT
#332
Idra.. what a joke this guy is. Why do I keep tuning in to his games?
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 29 2012 19:50 GMT
#333
On April 30 2012 04:49 Mithrandror wrote:
why the heck are they showing replays? Is it so much to ask to broadcast a live game, so shitty....


How does it possibly make a difference if they are 4 day old replays instead of live games..
talENTsc
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States36 Posts
April 29 2012 19:50 GMT
#334
On April 30 2012 04:49 Mithrandror wrote:
why the heck are they showing replays? Is it so much to ask to broadcast a live game, so shitty....


Does it really affect your viewing experience?
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 29 2012 19:50 GMT
#335
I'm dying of laughter right now! The Nydus dies and Idra just leaves!!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 19:50:38
April 29 2012 19:50 GMT
#336
IdrA to rage quit 6 pool or some other sort of cheese last game.
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
Malkavian183
Profile Joined February 2011
Turkey227 Posts
April 29 2012 19:50 GMT
#337
This wasn't even worth half of the hype... so dissapointed in idra...
Inject Bitch!
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
April 29 2012 19:50 GMT
#338
On April 30 2012 04:48 Akash1223 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:44 Heavenlee wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:37 Gorlin wrote:
Geez vortex is silly. Obviously I realize that its needed to beat broodlord infestor, but vortex just makes fights so dumb.


People will whine about anything. What do you do you want protoss v zerg late game to look like then? Vortex forces position jockeying, looking for openings, knowing when to engage, etc. That entire late game were them looking for holes in each other's position and making small trades while fighting for expansions. That seems to be about the best you can expect from protoss v zerg late game. Sorry that it's not a four-screen-wide battle of constant feedback, fungals, carriers, broodlords, and voidrays?


If there was no vortex, PvZ late game would look more like TvZ late game. P would have to rely more or harassment with blink stalkers and warp prisms to abuse the immobility of broodlords. It's pretty safe to say that's alot more exciting to watch than waiting to see if a vortex hits or misses.


Or...you could mass spine crawlers and spore crawlers like IdrA did at his bases and there would be no harassment with blink stalkers and warp prisms. You are apparently blind if you think that was about a vortex hitting or missing...it was about positioning, high ground advantages, taking the Xel'naga towers, slow pushing, delaying, attempting to secure new expansions, etc. Just because you have some stupid, unrealistic vision of how late game should work doesn't mean that wasn't a skill-based and interesting late game.
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#339
This is so sad, esp when watching Stephano's ZvP...the skill disparity is so damn high
Hubble
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany248 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#340
On April 30 2012 04:50 DwD wrote:
Idra.. what a joke this guy is. Why do I keep tuning in to his games?


I ask me the exactly same question >.>
I can see what you see not, vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song...
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#341
Idra is gonna quit the last game after losing his scouting drone to top 3 control.
Amazing show...
11 years and counting- TL #680
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#342
On April 30 2012 04:50 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:49 Mithrandror wrote:
why the heck are they showing replays? Is it so much to ask to broadcast a live game, so shitty....


How does it possibly make a difference if they are 4 day old replays instead of live games..

Some people will find a reason to whine in any situation, ignore them.
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#343
On April 30 2012 04:49 Mithrandror wrote:
why the heck are they showing replays? Is it so much to ask to broadcast a live game, so shitty....

Well, do you really find that so important?
I don't think it is in this case.

Lets just pretend these are live games. I would actually mind it for bigger tournaments. Buy this is more like showmatch.
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
CryHavok
Profile Joined September 2010
15 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#344
replays should make everything smooth, and a "better" viewing experience, but after waiting an hour for a choppy stream to show replays of some just plain bad games....not impressed
dmfg
Profile Joined May 2008
United Kingdom591 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#345
I feel sorry for djwheat, trying to commentate and make these games exciting when idra is just doing random shit and leaving unpredictably.
Renfield
Profile Joined August 2011
United States62 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#346
Idra should be ashamed of himself. 6 pool into nydus into leaving with no gg? Thousands of people tune in to watch him play and this is how he treats it?
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#347
On April 30 2012 04:51 Hubble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:50 DwD wrote:
Idra.. what a joke this guy is. Why do I keep tuning in to his games?


I ask me the exactly same question >.>

for his bm, ofc
"TOP....3...CONTROL..."
i lol'd at that one
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 19:51 GMT
#348
On April 30 2012 04:49 Mithrandror wrote:
why the heck are they showing replays? Is it so much to ask to broadcast a live game, so shitty....

isnt huk in korea? you want him to play at 4:50 a.m.?
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
April 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#349
holy crap. even though the nydus was taken out the composition idra was making for his aggression would've actually been pretty decent against the push huk was going for I think. Just saying you weren't loss.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 29 2012 19:52 GMT
#350
That was pretty terrible play from Idra.

I don't know, it seems like he's actually gotten worse over the last year...
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
applejack
Profile Joined December 2011
France10 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#351
rofl again
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#352
How are you all disappointed. Any time Idra plays its great entertainment. Maybe he doesn't play amazingly well, but the drama is always the best
Kodak
Profile Joined March 2011
United States157 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#353
Classic Idra, what a joke.
twitch.tv/crwnkodak [ Taeja | Huk | MMA ]
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#354
On April 30 2012 04:51 soon.Cloak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:51 Hubble wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:50 DwD wrote:
Idra.. what a joke this guy is. Why do I keep tuning in to his games?


I ask me the exactly same question >.>

for his bm, ofc
"TOP....3...CONTROL..."
i lol'd at that one


Yeah it was funny.. but I'd rather watch great games.. heh ><
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#355
OH MY GOD idra what in god's name are you doing?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#356
sigh. idra throwing another show match with 6pools. =(
ski107
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#357
Tuned in to watch 2 six pools. Yay.
+5 Insightful
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 19:54:35
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#358
On April 30 2012 04:51 Hubble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:50 DwD wrote:
Idra.. what a joke this guy is. Why do I keep tuning in to his games?


I ask me the exactly same question >.>

eh every now and then i appreciate watching a blowout series

if 3-0 sweeps like this didn't happen every so often, then there wouldn't be a skill gap to this game, would there?

sometimes i wonder if idra is going to coast his way through his contract then retire when it's up for renewal

edit: 4-0 sweeps
aaaaa
mengsk83
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany519 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#359
nice... great games by Idra, nice effort he put into this sponsor event for EG >_<
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1185 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#360
Holy, 6 pool again with a cancelled drone...
Mutation complete.
cOoLiD
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada168 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#361
goddamn it idra wtf
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#362
Sigh.. Not very fun for me here EG..
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#363
Surprise! Anticlimatic final in a Best of X with IdrA. Who'd have thought ...
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#364
--- Nuked ---
Hubble
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany248 Posts
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#365
On April 30 2012 04:51 soon.Cloak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:51 Hubble wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:50 DwD wrote:
Idra.. what a joke this guy is. Why do I keep tuning in to his games?


I ask me the exactly same question >.>

for his bm, ofc
"TOP....3...CONTROL..."
i lol'd at that one



His BM is not even entertaining anymore. This is just meh... there are other Zergs out there playing a much more entertaining style and winning more :S
I can see what you see not, vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone, whispering their hidden song...
Postman
Profile Joined July 2010
United States269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 19:55:35
April 29 2012 19:53 GMT
#366
I'm gonna go ahead and stop being a fan of Idra now.

This is just silly, obviously it's not a serious tournament but is he even trying anymore?

Edit: If this was Naniwa he'd be crucified.
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
April 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#367
This must be the best map to 6 pool on. Oh wait it is the biggest fucking map in sc2 and Idra is a fucking moron.
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
ski107
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
April 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#368
How do scoots and garfield not reprimand him for this shit?
+5 Insightful
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
April 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#369
id laugh if idra wins this
North Korea is best Korea!
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#370
sigh this was kinda lame lol
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Mithrandror
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium85 Posts
April 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#371
It matter because now the broadcaster can just select game in a particular order. As a consequence there is now no way of knowing whether a (potential) comeback would be a real comeback or just one set in scene by EG (Dj Wheat) to make it more attractive for viewers. Anyway that how I see, I still appreciate them doing it...
you really want chatrooms?
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#372
Really good advertising for EG this. Idra just 6pooling a guy over and over again.

Although it's missing Huk saying 'u 6pol?'
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 29 2012 19:54 GMT
#373
So.. another shitty 6 pool. If he doesn't wanna have a showmatch why does he even play? Forced by EG management or something? Totally wasting everyone's time... fuck it lol
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 19:55 GMT
#374
On April 30 2012 04:54 amd098 wrote:
id laugh if idra wins this

It's possible, 6 pool can be pretty good in ZvP
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 29 2012 19:55 GMT
#375
Well this has been disappointing.
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 19:55 GMT
#376
is it just me, or does dj sound incredibly dissapointed?
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 19:56:30
April 29 2012 19:55 GMT
#377
What a waste of time. It's almost like anything involving Idra isn't worth watching. He loses 2 games and 6pool - loses- leaves. Of course he might not take it seriously, but EG shouldn't try to advertise a GAME OF GIANTS when it's a game between one good player and one gigantic pussy.
ski107
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
April 29 2012 19:55 GMT
#378
On April 30 2012 04:55 soon.Cloak wrote:
is it just me, or does dj sound incredibly dissapointed?


Wouldn't you if you had to cast this garbage?
+5 Insightful
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
April 29 2012 19:56 GMT
#379
On April 30 2012 04:55 soon.Cloak wrote:
is it just me, or does dj sound incredibly dissapointed?


Yeah and it is completly understandable
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
_Darwin_
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2374 Posts
April 29 2012 19:56 GMT
#380
poor djwheat having to commentate this shit
I cant stop lactating
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
April 29 2012 19:56 GMT
#381
Well...this has gone just about as expected.
Fireflies
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom211 Posts
April 29 2012 19:56 GMT
#382
Wow, I don't understand why CJ never played Idra. He's so dedicated to taking every game seriously. :3
One giant leap for mankind
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
April 29 2012 19:56 GMT
#383
Thanks EG that was fucking amazing, will tune on again.

Poor djwheat.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
April 29 2012 19:57 GMT
#384
Idra being Idra and not taking a showmatch even for his own team seriously. He obviously has better things to do, like going onto a smurf account and ranting on how bad all the NA grandmaster ladder is as he loses to their "cheese". By cheese I mean better play.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 29 2012 19:57 GMT
#385
On April 30 2012 04:55 soon.Cloak wrote:
is it just me, or does dj sound incredibly dissapointed?


It's not just you. He is probably thinking to himself: Why the fuck am I wasting my time with this shit?..
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
April 29 2012 19:58 GMT
#386
Well this sure is idra playing a protoss. Well played by huk though.
aka ilovesharkpeople
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
April 29 2012 19:58 GMT
#387
final score?
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
April 29 2012 19:59 GMT
#388
There's a phrase I never thought I'd hear again: 'a brutal four-gate'. I have no idea why I tuned in anymore ;p.
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
April 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#389
On April 30 2012 04:57 DwD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:55 soon.Cloak wrote:
is it just me, or does dj sound incredibly dissapointed?


It's not just you. He is probably thinking to himself: Why the fuck am I wasting my time with this shit?..


It's probably more like "God dammit idra not again "
aka ilovesharkpeople
ski107
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
April 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#390
On April 30 2012 04:58 MrMotionPicture wrote:
final score?


It will be 4-0.
+5 Insightful
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#391
On April 30 2012 04:58 MrMotionPicture wrote:
final score?


About to be 4-0
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
April 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#392
On April 30 2012 04:58 MrMotionPicture wrote:
final score?


Most like 4-0 for HuK incl. 2 6 pools by Idra on the 2 biggest maps in the entire map pool
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
April 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#393
Disappointing.
@followMVT
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
April 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#394
On April 30 2012 05:00 Lunares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:58 MrMotionPicture wrote:
final score?


Most like 4-0 for HuK incl. 2 6 pools by Idra on the 2 biggest maps in the entire map pool

hahaha what a joke
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 20:00 GMT
#395
4-0 gg
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#396
lol gg?
Greed leads to just about all losses.
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#397
Did he GG even once there..?

Lame show here from EG..
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#398
If these are cast from replays, why even show them? The showmatch is pretty much pointless since it was terrible. I wish Idra would actually play the damn game and not give up all the time.
Happystreet
Profile Joined January 2011
550 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#399
And that is professional gamer Greg "IdrA" Fields.
MKP | Jinro | Thorzain | Flash | Bomber | Amaz
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#400
@.@

4-0 for HuK.

0-4 for IdrA GGs.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#401
GG thanks for the awesome games Idra. Nice showmatch indeed. We all had lots of fun.
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
ski107
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#402
On April 30 2012 05:01 Odal wrote:
If these are cast from replays, why even show them? The showmatch is pretty much pointless since it was terrible. I wish Idra would actually play the damn game and not give up all the time.


Seriously, they gained no benefit from this. I feel bad for wheat.
+5 Insightful
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#403
This bm is unacceptable, not even funny. Idra should leave the team and retire from progamming.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 29 2012 20:01 GMT
#404
What a waste of time, only the game on Shakuras was any good out of these.
skyrunner
Profile Joined August 2009
371 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#405
great series :D
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#406
Huk most evil genius, congrats!

Does this mean that idra is relegated to being an evil midboss now?
aka ilovesharkpeople
BlueyD
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada437 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#407
Why do I even tune in for IdrA games anymore? He pulls this kind of behavior half the time I see him play...
Zealot Chaaaaarge!
soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#408
On April 30 2012 05:01 Omri wrote:
Did he GG even once there..?

Lame show here from EG..


nope...
...but he did bm!
Mangooze
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands301 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#409
He must be so ashamed wearing that t-shirt :/.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#410
This is exactly why I never get excited to watch Idra play anything. After that horrible NASL showmatch, I lost faith....




I'll admit though, those last 2 games were hilarious and game 2 was nice also.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#411
is this why idra said on inside the game he wont do showmatches? so disappointing.
Kefka.dancingmad
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada262 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#412
that was some of the worst games i ever watched ugh. why did he 6pool like every game.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#413
On April 30 2012 05:01 Odal wrote:
If these are cast from replays, why even show them? The showmatch is pretty much pointless since it was terrible. I wish Idra would actually play the damn game and not give up all the time.

lol they should've just rigged it so Idra won a few games
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calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#414
hahahhaha so this is what you have to do to get one of the biggest paychecks in sc2, fuckin pathetic player and organisation.
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JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#415
rofl, idra doesnt gg a single game -__-

but really 4-0? thats dissapointing, i thought this wouldve at least been somewhat closer
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#416
On April 30 2012 05:01 babybell wrote:
This bm is unacceptable, not even funny. Idra should leave the team and retire from progamming.


Don't think he should retire but he really needs to be freaking punished/disciplined by his team.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#417
This was so bad, poor djwheat having to go through that.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
April 29 2012 20:02 GMT
#418
On April 30 2012 05:01 Odal wrote:
If these are cast from replays, why even show them? The showmatch is pretty much pointless since it was terrible. I wish Idra would actually play the damn game and not give up all the time.


Nice idea man, EG should have just gone "well Huk won 4-0 and 3 of the games weren't that great so we're just not going to show the matches at all." Seems like a pretty solid move.
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1185 Posts
April 29 2012 20:03 GMT
#419
Obviously I expected Huk to beat Idra, but I didn't think it would be this bad.
Mutation complete.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 29 2012 20:03 GMT
#420
That was a terrible, sad, and disappointing series to watch.
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TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
April 29 2012 20:03 GMT
#421
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
yaxv
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark50 Posts
April 29 2012 20:04 GMT
#422
Bah, those games weren't even fun to watch, save maybe on Shakuras.
talENTsc
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States36 Posts
April 29 2012 20:04 GMT
#423
Orb gets fired from EG for his comments as a normal kid playing the game, yet idra can pull this kind of stuff during legit showmatches promoting the team? Not sure I agree with EG's PR team's decisions.
FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:05:17
April 29 2012 20:04 GMT
#424
isnt this an eg homemade showmatch? I dont get idras behaviour. Not funny at all and imo and unacceptable

edit: i mean unacceptable :/
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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
April 29 2012 20:05 GMT
#425
Over 10k people tuned in for this... how sad.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
April 29 2012 20:05 GMT
#426
Lol! Well this event was underwhelming to say the least xD.
Like the guy above said, they should have rigged it just so it wouldn't be a 4-0 sweep xD.
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ooozer
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany231 Posts
April 29 2012 20:05 GMT
#427
Seriously, EG doesn't seem to give much about the game itself, but more about publicity. It's good for them, but bad for us. Or how do you explain having a player like idra on board? Never giving a fuck about quality games but always attracts viewers
Mithrandror
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium85 Posts
April 29 2012 20:05 GMT
#428
On April 30 2012 05:04 talENTsc wrote:
Orb gets fired from EG for his comments as a normal kid playing the game, yet idra can pull this kind of stuff during legit showmatches promoting the team? Not sure I agree with EG's PR team's decisions.


Agree with this 100%. For some reason a lot of people are still a major fan of Idra though and as a consequence he's always left off the hook!
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Akash1223
Profile Joined March 2011
United States91 Posts
April 29 2012 20:05 GMT
#429
On April 30 2012 04:50 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:48 Akash1223 wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:44 Heavenlee wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:37 Gorlin wrote:
Geez vortex is silly. Obviously I realize that its needed to beat broodlord infestor, but vortex just makes fights so dumb.


People will whine about anything. What do you do you want protoss v zerg late game to look like then? Vortex forces position jockeying, looking for openings, knowing when to engage, etc. That entire late game were them looking for holes in each other's position and making small trades while fighting for expansions. That seems to be about the best you can expect from protoss v zerg late game. Sorry that it's not a four-screen-wide battle of constant feedback, fungals, carriers, broodlords, and voidrays?


If there was no vortex, PvZ late game would look more like TvZ late game. P would have to rely more or harassment with blink stalkers and warp prisms to abuse the immobility of broodlords. It's pretty safe to say that's alot more exciting to watch than waiting to see if a vortex hits or misses.


Or...you could mass spine crawlers and spore crawlers like IdrA did at his bases and there would be no harassment with blink stalkers and warp prisms. You are apparently blind if you think that was about a vortex hitting or missing...it was about positioning, high ground advantages, taking the Xel'naga towers, slow pushing, delaying, attempting to secure new expansions, etc. Just because you have some stupid, unrealistic vision of how late game should work doesn't mean that wasn't a skill-based and interesting late game.


Yes, because I found the late game uninteresting, that doesn't make it uninteresting...seriously? As if interesting is an objective term.

MyLastSerenade
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany710 Posts
April 29 2012 20:05 GMT
#430
after this games, maybe EG should lower his salaries!
i mean wtf was he thinking to just throw the last 2 games like that?
Postman
Profile Joined July 2010
United States269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:06:35
April 29 2012 20:06 GMT
#431
Alex if you're reading this, we want something to be done.

Put Idra on the 'B-team' or something. You can't seriously promote a player like that as a star and expect us to keep cheering for EG.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
April 29 2012 20:06 GMT
#432
I've discovered the Idra showmatch pattern.

Lose first 2 games trying to play standard, then 6 pool twice in a row to get 4-0'd. Same thing vs Alive :p
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amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
April 29 2012 20:06 GMT
#433
why doesnt idra gg when he loses?

cuz more gg = more skill, and idra seems to not want to improve at all
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Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
April 29 2012 20:07 GMT
#434
Always remember, if you're trying to hide a nydus, you should always bait units towards it with lings. It helps to keep it hidden until it finishes.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:08 GMT
#435
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
April 29 2012 20:08 GMT
#436
Seems like idra just gave up and started 6-pooling like he did vs Alive. To bad :/
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
April 29 2012 20:08 GMT
#437
Seriously I just feel superbly sorry for Orb if he was watching this ridiculous showmatch. Goes to show how hypocritical the EG organization really is.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
April 29 2012 20:08 GMT
#438
Meh. Odd series and was hoping for more.
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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
April 29 2012 20:10 GMT
#439
On April 30 2012 05:08 Firesilver wrote:
Meh. Odd series and was hoping for more.


There is nothing odd with IdrA not giving a shit. In every showmatch if he loses the first 2 games he just says fuck it and does stupid shit.
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BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
April 29 2012 20:10 GMT
#440
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


Sounds more like a disenfranchised fan to me.
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
April 29 2012 20:11 GMT
#441
I don't get it.

IdrA's job is to play this game. He plays it for like 8+ hours a day and for years by now. And he complains about protoss for like forever.

And still he doesn't know how to beat it.

Maybe he should change his practice schedule...... maybe.
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babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
April 29 2012 20:12 GMT
#442
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.

You're not a fair weather fan when the player you support has been performing terribly for almost a year and you stick with supporting him up until the moment his drop in play is accompanied by disgusting attitude.
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
April 29 2012 20:13 GMT
#443
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


No, it's someone that is done watching EG.Idra's horseshit. How can you like a player that treats his fans, teammates, and team like trash? You make it seem like it's not-ok to stop cheering for a player because they've done everything possible to push fans away.
Hens
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany288 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:15:45
April 29 2012 20:15 GMT
#444
6 pooling on taldarim is actually probably the strat with the highest winrate vs P, its definately for IdrA vs Huk so cant blame him for that but you have to play it out properly and not as half heartedly as he did. Then never gging is just unacceptable bm, especially considering you are playing against one of your team mates. I cannot see how he gets so many fans as he is not a good player nor is he anywhere near an interesting person.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
April 29 2012 20:15 GMT
#445
Why does SirScoots and Co. organise these showmatches with IdrA?

It's not funny anymore when leaves games early, 6 pools, and rages. It's not helping your organisation, it's losing viewers and keeping eyes off your sponsers. Try PuMa vs HuK next time and we might see a decent series.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 29 2012 20:15 GMT
#446
Don't you guys get it? By 6 pooling, Idra proved that he is the most evil genius, now that this thread and the community are now filled with thousands of disappointed fans. We got meta-gamed hard. :p
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Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:16:43
April 29 2012 20:15 GMT
#447
On April 30 2012 05:05 Akash1223 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 04:50 Heavenlee wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:48 Akash1223 wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:44 Heavenlee wrote:
On April 30 2012 04:37 Gorlin wrote:
Geez vortex is silly. Obviously I realize that its needed to beat broodlord infestor, but vortex just makes fights so dumb.


People will whine about anything. What do you do you want protoss v zerg late game to look like then? Vortex forces position jockeying, looking for openings, knowing when to engage, etc. That entire late game were them looking for holes in each other's position and making small trades while fighting for expansions. That seems to be about the best you can expect from protoss v zerg late game. Sorry that it's not a four-screen-wide battle of constant feedback, fungals, carriers, broodlords, and voidrays?


If there was no vortex, PvZ late game would look more like TvZ late game. P would have to rely more or harassment with blink stalkers and warp prisms to abuse the immobility of broodlords. It's pretty safe to say that's alot more exciting to watch than waiting to see if a vortex hits or misses.


Or...you could mass spine crawlers and spore crawlers like IdrA did at his bases and there would be no harassment with blink stalkers and warp prisms. You are apparently blind if you think that was about a vortex hitting or missing...it was about positioning, high ground advantages, taking the Xel'naga towers, slow pushing, delaying, attempting to secure new expansions, etc. Just because you have some stupid, unrealistic vision of how late game should work doesn't mean that wasn't a skill-based and interesting late game.


Yes, because I found the late game uninteresting, that doesn't make it uninteresting...seriously? As if interesting is an objective term.



No, your statement was ignorant because you want something completely different than the game provides and you refuse to look at the positives of that game. How about the positioning of Huk to take that high ground base, the like two minute back and forth battle at the pocket expansion, constant positioning and small trades, attempts to harass and those attempts being shut down, etc? But no, because it wasn't a protoss avoiding fighting an unstoppable late game army by blinking around sniping off unimportant tech structures while broodlords and infestors destroy everything, you find it boring instead of looking at the interesting merits of the actual game. At least with vortexes you can have an actual engagement based on proper positioning and composition, but you want the late game to be blink stalker and warp prism harassment while the protoss is unable to even have a fight with the zerg?

Where did I say it was objective? You are allowed to have your opinion, that doesn't make it a good one.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:17:45
April 29 2012 20:16 GMT
#448
On April 30 2012 05:12 babybell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.

You're not a fair weather fan when the player you support has been performing terribly for almost a year and you stick with supporting him up until the moment his drop in play is accompanied by disgusting attitude.

im sorry, but i have been watching idra for years. if anything, his attitude has improved. so, if his attitude is what keeps you from watching him, you didnt have a clue about him in the first place.

On April 30 2012 05:13 otgomni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


No, it's someone that is done watching EG.Idra's horseshit. How can you like a player that treats his fans, teammates, and team like trash? You make it seem like it's not-ok to stop cheering for a player because they've done everything possible to push fans away.

i wish he would win more, but he is still my favorite because i love his attitude. some people are awesome because of their great "good manners" (sheth, white-ra), but some are awesome because of the opposite (idra). if you dont like his attitude then move on; it is not going to change. eg may force him to hide it at tournaments, but it will never change.
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:16:39
April 29 2012 20:16 GMT
#449
Flummie
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands417 Posts
April 29 2012 20:17 GMT
#450
It's like IdrA doesn't care anymore. He is either going to raceswap or quit playing alltogether it seems.
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Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
April 29 2012 20:17 GMT
#451
On April 30 2012 05:02 Lunares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:01 babybell wrote:
This bm is unacceptable, not even funny. Idra should leave the team and retire from progamming.


Don't think he should retire but he really needs to be freaking punished/disciplined by his team.


I'm disappointed by his bad attitude, but I've just accepted it and just kind of sigh every time I see a match end like this. I used to be a fan, but until he overcomes his mental block, if he ever does, I just don't get too invested in his games. I don't think EG coming down hard on idra will make it change - this sort of thing is what keeps him losing all the time, and EG would much rather he be winning tournaments like he used to. I don't see what punishing him for it will really accomplish.

If it really does bother you that much, then stop watching things with idra. Don't even talk about him. If idra stops bringing them in a ton of viewers, EG will be less tolerant of this kind of behavior. Over 10,000 viewers means that EG benefits from Idra's bad reputation. In the meantime, I'll still hold out a sliver of hope that idra can actually get back on top and be able to back up his shit talk again, but until then I'll just be
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Fuzzmosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada752 Posts
April 29 2012 20:25 GMT
#452
I could swear it was like 11 months ago most were thinking that if only Idra could overcome his mental block, he'd go back to being a monster.

I'd have to assume he disagrees with that assessment because we don't understand the game like he does or something.

Since InControl likes casting with him, why not gently push Idra in that direction? Apparently his desire to play is still questionable.
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
April 29 2012 20:25 GMT
#453
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.
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otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
April 29 2012 20:25 GMT
#454
On April 30 2012 05:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:12 babybell wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.

You're not a fair weather fan when the player you support has been performing terribly for almost a year and you stick with supporting him up until the moment his drop in play is accompanied by disgusting attitude.

im sorry, but i have been watching idra for years. if anything, his attitude has improved. so, if his attitude is what keeps you from watching him, you didnt have a clue about him in the first place.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:13 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


No, it's someone that is done watching EG.Idra's horseshit. How can you like a player that treats his fans, teammates, and team like trash? You make it seem like it's not-ok to stop cheering for a player because they've done everything possible to push fans away.

i wish he would win more, but he is still my favorite because i love his attitude. some people are awesome because of their great "good manners" (sheth, white-ra), but some are awesome because of the opposite (idra). if you dont like his attitude then move on; it is not going to change. eg may force him to hide it at tournaments, but it will never change.


Are you kidding? You're blinded by your irrational love of this guy. It's not about his attitude - that really doesn't matter. It's about performance and perception. This guy is paid to do this. Sure his attitude may have improved slightly since your initial viewings, but the level of attention and prestige he continues to receive has grown considerably over the past few years. Yet, as a response, Idra makes it his personal quest to shit all over what "good sportsmanship" stands for. EG promoted this event as if it was a "clash of the titans" event, when it was really huk playing normal and Idra raging and giving up. It's more of an embarrassment to EG than to Idra himself, which is the real shame.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:27 GMT
#455
On April 30 2012 05:25 otgomni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:12 babybell wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.

You're not a fair weather fan when the player you support has been performing terribly for almost a year and you stick with supporting him up until the moment his drop in play is accompanied by disgusting attitude.

im sorry, but i have been watching idra for years. if anything, his attitude has improved. so, if his attitude is what keeps you from watching him, you didnt have a clue about him in the first place.

On April 30 2012 05:13 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


No, it's someone that is done watching EG.Idra's horseshit. How can you like a player that treats his fans, teammates, and team like trash? You make it seem like it's not-ok to stop cheering for a player because they've done everything possible to push fans away.

i wish he would win more, but he is still my favorite because i love his attitude. some people are awesome because of their great "good manners" (sheth, white-ra), but some are awesome because of the opposite (idra). if you dont like his attitude then move on; it is not going to change. eg may force him to hide it at tournaments, but it will never change.


Are you kidding? You're blinded by your irrational love of this guy. It's not about his attitude - that really doesn't matter. It's about performance and perception. This guy is paid to do this. Sure his attitude may have improved slightly since your initial viewings, but the level of attention and prestige he continues to receive has grown considerably over the past few years. Yet, as a response, Idra makes it his personal quest to shit all over what "good sportsmanship" stands for. EG promoted this event as if it was a "clash of the titans" event, when it was really huk playing normal and Idra raging and giving up. It's more of an embarrassment to EG than to Idra himself, which is the real shame.

what exactly do you find objectionable about his attitude? that he bantered with huk, or that he didn't gg, or something else?
Livelovedie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States492 Posts
April 29 2012 20:28 GMT
#456
Not only did it start like an hour late, the product was pretty bad also.
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:31:19
April 29 2012 20:28 GMT
#457
On April 30 2012 05:27 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:25 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:12 babybell wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.

You're not a fair weather fan when the player you support has been performing terribly for almost a year and you stick with supporting him up until the moment his drop in play is accompanied by disgusting attitude.

im sorry, but i have been watching idra for years. if anything, his attitude has improved. so, if his attitude is what keeps you from watching him, you didnt have a clue about him in the first place.

On April 30 2012 05:13 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


No, it's someone that is done watching EG.Idra's horseshit. How can you like a player that treats his fans, teammates, and team like trash? You make it seem like it's not-ok to stop cheering for a player because they've done everything possible to push fans away.

i wish he would win more, but he is still my favorite because i love his attitude. some people are awesome because of their great "good manners" (sheth, white-ra), but some are awesome because of the opposite (idra). if you dont like his attitude then move on; it is not going to change. eg may force him to hide it at tournaments, but it will never change.


Are you kidding? You're blinded by your irrational love of this guy. It's not about his attitude - that really doesn't matter. It's about performance and perception. This guy is paid to do this. Sure his attitude may have improved slightly since your initial viewings, but the level of attention and prestige he continues to receive has grown considerably over the past few years. Yet, as a response, Idra makes it his personal quest to shit all over what "good sportsmanship" stands for. EG promoted this event as if it was a "clash of the titans" event, when it was really huk playing normal and Idra raging and giving up. It's more of an embarrassment to EG than to Idra himself, which is the real shame.

what exactly do you find objectionable about his attitude? that he bantered with huk, or that he didn't gg, or something else?


You're missing the point. His attitude doesn't matter. It's the fact he can't represent himself, his team, or the sport with any sort of respect or dignity. His actions make EG look worse. It has to do with betraying your benefactors rather than someone in his mid-twenties expressing the attitude of an angsty-teen.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:29 GMT
#458
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.
Supah
Profile Joined August 2010
708 Posts
April 29 2012 20:32 GMT
#459
So, recap for someone who didn't watch?
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:33:12
April 29 2012 20:33 GMT
#460
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


You need to analyze the big picture. There's more going on than someone's bitch-fit after losing a game.
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:36:26
April 29 2012 20:33 GMT
#461
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.

Yeah =/ times like this make me /facepalm at all the "Idra no win? I no fan!" posts that litter the forums when Greg loses. And as always, through thick and thin, I'll be an Idra fanboy all day erey day.

Next time Greg. Next time.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:34 GMT
#462
On April 30 2012 05:28 otgomni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:27 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:12 babybell wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.

You're not a fair weather fan when the player you support has been performing terribly for almost a year and you stick with supporting him up until the moment his drop in play is accompanied by disgusting attitude.

im sorry, but i have been watching idra for years. if anything, his attitude has improved. so, if his attitude is what keeps you from watching him, you didnt have a clue about him in the first place.

On April 30 2012 05:13 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


No, it's someone that is done watching EG.Idra's horseshit. How can you like a player that treats his fans, teammates, and team like trash? You make it seem like it's not-ok to stop cheering for a player because they've done everything possible to push fans away.

i wish he would win more, but he is still my favorite because i love his attitude. some people are awesome because of their great "good manners" (sheth, white-ra), but some are awesome because of the opposite (idra). if you dont like his attitude then move on; it is not going to change. eg may force him to hide it at tournaments, but it will never change.


Are you kidding? You're blinded by your irrational love of this guy. It's not about his attitude - that really doesn't matter. It's about performance and perception. This guy is paid to do this. Sure his attitude may have improved slightly since your initial viewings, but the level of attention and prestige he continues to receive has grown considerably over the past few years. Yet, as a response, Idra makes it his personal quest to shit all over what "good sportsmanship" stands for. EG promoted this event as if it was a "clash of the titans" event, when it was really huk playing normal and Idra raging and giving up. It's more of an embarrassment to EG than to Idra himself, which is the real shame.

what exactly do you find objectionable about his attitude? that he bantered with huk, or that he didn't gg, or something else?


You're missing the point. His attitude doesn't matter. It's the fact he can't represent himself, his team, or the sport with any sort of respect or dignity. His actions make EG look worse. It has to do with betraying your benefactors rather than someone in his mid-twenties expressing the attitude of an angsty-teen.

idra had a worse attitude before eg took him on. i think it was sirscoots and incontrol who said that. they (EG) got in bed with idra knowing who he is. i think they are more qualified to decide whether he can represent the team.

also, incontrol said on the last SOTG that Dreamhack was upset that idra couldnt come because they lost tons of viewers. everything idra touches immediately gets an absurd number of viewers. so, apparently, the sport is doing just fine with idra's "bad" attitude.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
April 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#463
I agree with Idra's strategies. Think about it, if this was really Idra vs Huk EG wouldn't have had to pay for a sponsored thread. It wasn't. For all I know, Idra decided to 6 pool twice because it fits in with his personality as the community perceives it, and it generates discussion about him.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#464
On April 30 2012 05:33 otgomni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


You need to analyze the big picture. There's more going on than someone's bitch-fit after losing a game.

please explain the big picture that i am missing. then, explain to me why you are more qualified to make these decisions than EG's management, tournament organizers, sponsors, etc. because they arent agreeing with you.
Omri
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel638 Posts
April 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#465
On April 30 2012 05:32 Supah wrote:
So, recap for someone who didn't watch?


Game 1 - Huk gets DT, IdrA leaves, no gg.

Game 2 - Long macro game on Shakurs, Archon Toilet, Idra leaves, no gg.

Game 3 - 6 pool into Hydralisk and Nydus Worm that fails, Idra leaves, no gg.

Game 4 - 6 pool.... .... ... no gg..

Huk 4 - 0 IdrA.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:39:31
April 29 2012 20:39 GMT
#466
As long as there are kids and easily entertained people who, for reasons I cannot fathom, continue in supporting, defending and positively talking about IdrA, he's going to keep his job. As sad as that is. All of his antics, all his BM, his continued lack of respect and even his complete lack of successful tournament performance has apparently done nothing to diminish his market value, both for himself and for EG.

The day IdrA will vanish from the scene and the frontpages is the day the community either stops talking about him, or starts to unanimously stop condoning his behaviour. But judging from what we've seen over the last two years of SC2, this won't happen any time soon. But at some point, it will. I don't know much about the metaphysics of advertising; I realize even bad campaigns can eventually pay off, and negative attention can result in profits. But I also know that these things eventually have to end, or your brand becomes a very one-sided thing, unattractive to large parts of the market.

It may not matter much (or at all), but I as a potential customer of gaming hardware and accesories (and thus part of the target audience of sponsors) have long since stopped paying attention to anything EG. Say I need some new parts for my machine; I'd actually go so far as to choose a certain brand because they support Sheth, WhiteRa, Marineking, Socke .. you know, decent people, with a certain investment in their community. But I couldn't care less about EG. Because, quite frankly, they keep supporting the biggest annoyance in all of the western community.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
April 29 2012 20:40 GMT
#467
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


Well, lots of fans are a little delusional about their favourite player. Maybe he used to think Idra cared about improving and becoming the best first and the BM and the attitude was mostly for show.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:43:46
April 29 2012 20:42 GMT
#468
On April 30 2012 05:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:33 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


You need to analyze the big picture. There's more going on than someone's bitch-fit after losing a game.

please explain the big picture that i am missing. then, explain to me why you are more qualified to make these decisions than EG's management, tournament organizers, sponsors, etc. because they arent agreeing with you.


All I'm saying is you seem to think that, if someone doesn't like Idra it's because they don't like his attitude. It's more than that. It's because he treats all aspects of the sport like they are below him, including his fans and his team. How can you call someone a fair-weather fan doesn't agree with his view of sportsmanship at a fundamental level? It's bigger than his shit attitude - it's his entire approach to the game. If you think this doesn't have an effect with viewership or purchasing power, especially with the increase in exposure in general and "seriousness" taken to e-Sports as an industry, you're mistaken. But that's fine. Keep supporting someone that shits in your cereal.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
April 29 2012 20:43 GMT
#469
BM/controversy is +EV for Idra

it keeps him exposed to the SC2 community because his play isn't good enough to maintain relevance

next time Idra streams, he'll get 10K+ viewers. his concurrent viewership always spikes up when he BMs or is involved in some type of controversy
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
April 29 2012 20:44 GMT
#470
Not really fun series to watch tbh, not worth it. Better watch MC vs Stephano at IPL
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
April 29 2012 20:44 GMT
#471
On April 30 2012 05:44 eYeball wrote:
Not really fun series to watch tbh, not worth it. Better watch MC vs Stephano at IPL


Was a much better series. Watching the MC/Stephano respect grow through the games was nice as well.
Brotatoes23
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
April 29 2012 20:46 GMT
#472
On April 30 2012 05:43 udgnim wrote:
BM/controversy is +EV for Idra

it keeps him exposed to the SC2 community because his play isn't good enough to maintain relevance

next time Idra streams, he'll get 10K+ viewers. his concurrent viewership always spikes up when he BMs or is involved in some type of controversy


He's streaming now!

4k viewers.
Humans - Knee deep in a river, still searching for water.
below66
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1761 Posts
April 29 2012 20:46 GMT
#473
On April 30 2012 05:42 otgomni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:33 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


You need to analyze the big picture. There's more going on than someone's bitch-fit after losing a game.

please explain the big picture that i am missing. then, explain to me why you are more qualified to make these decisions than EG's management, tournament organizers, sponsors, etc. because they arent agreeing with you.


All I'm saying is you seem to think that, if someone doesn't like Idra it's because they don't like his attitude. It's more than that. It's because he treats all aspects of the sport like they are below him, including his fans and his team. How can you call someone a fair-weather fan doesn't agree with his view of sportsmanship? It's bigger than his shit attitude - it's his entire approach to the game. If you think this doesn't have an effect with viewership or purchasing power, especially with the increase in exposure in general and "seriousness" taken to e-Sports as an industry, you're mistaken. But that's fine. Keep supporting someone that shits in your cereal.


Yea, he just shit-talks the game and has a vibe around him like he doesn't even enjoy playing it, dude needs to fix his whole aura and approach to the game, and take notes from stephano's ZvP.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:47 GMT
#474
On April 30 2012 05:42 otgomni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:33 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


You need to analyze the big picture. There's more going on than someone's bitch-fit after losing a game.

please explain the big picture that i am missing. then, explain to me why you are more qualified to make these decisions than EG's management, tournament organizers, sponsors, etc. because they arent agreeing with you.


All I'm saying is you seem to think that, if someone doesn't like Idra it's because they don't like his attitude. It's more than that. It's because he treats all aspects of the sport like they are below him, including his fans and his team. How can you call someone a fair-weather fan doesn't agree with his view of sportsmanship? It's bigger than his shit attitude - it's his entire approach to the game. If you think this doesn't have an effect with viewership or purchasing power, especially with the increase in exposure in general and "seriousness" taken to e-Sports as an industry, you're mistaken. But that's fine. Keep supporting someone that shits in your cereal.

i dont think that people only dislike him because of his attitude. nor have i said that in this thread. there are plenty of reasons to dislike him, and his attitude is only one of them.

what i said was that his attitude hasn't changed in the last four years that i have been following him. so, dont say you (figuratively of course) are no longer his fan because of his attitude, because his attitude has not changed since i started watching him four or so years ago.

i expect idra to "shit in my cereal," so when he does it, im not surprised. if you are his fan expecting him not to "shit in your cereal" then you are a fan of someone that idra is not (nor has he ever been).
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
April 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#475
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


His attitude didn't change. Some former fans' perception of his attitude has.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
JamSam
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom50 Posts
April 29 2012 20:49 GMT
#476
Entire event was made to promote eg and sponsors, abit disrespectful to be a bitch towards the people directly supporting you.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
April 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#477
On April 30 2012 05:36 Omri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:32 Supah wrote:
So, recap for someone who didn't watch?


Game 1 - Huk gets DT, IdrA leaves, no gg.

Game 2 - Long macro game on Shakurs, Archon Toilet, Idra leaves, no gg.

Game 3 - 6 pool into Hydralisk and Nydus Worm that fails, Idra leaves, no gg.

Game 4 - 6 pool.... .... ... no gg..

Huk 4 - 0 IdrA.


Amazing.
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#478
On April 30 2012 05:49 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


His attitude didn't change. Some former fans' perception of his attitude has.

fair enough.
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
April 29 2012 20:53 GMT
#479
On April 30 2012 05:17 Flummie wrote:
It's like IdrA doesn't care anymore. He is either going to raceswap or quit playing alltogether it seems.


If he doesn't want to quit, he should be forced to. He doesn't like the game, doesn't like the fans, doesn't like the players, doesn't know how to compete, has no interest in winning, and represents esports poorly. His continued popularity is a blight on the community, and the gigantic support community of EG, the tournaments, the sponsors, and the fans makes the whole esports endavor look amateurish. You can have a personality. You can't do what idra does.
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
April 29 2012 20:53 GMT
#480
On April 30 2012 05:47 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:42 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:33 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


You need to analyze the big picture. There's more going on than someone's bitch-fit after losing a game.

please explain the big picture that i am missing. then, explain to me why you are more qualified to make these decisions than EG's management, tournament organizers, sponsors, etc. because they arent agreeing with you.


All I'm saying is you seem to think that, if someone doesn't like Idra it's because they don't like his attitude. It's more than that. It's because he treats all aspects of the sport like they are below him, including his fans and his team. How can you call someone a fair-weather fan doesn't agree with his view of sportsmanship? It's bigger than his shit attitude - it's his entire approach to the game. If you think this doesn't have an effect with viewership or purchasing power, especially with the increase in exposure in general and "seriousness" taken to e-Sports as an industry, you're mistaken. But that's fine. Keep supporting someone that shits in your cereal.

i dont think that people only dislike him because of his attitude. nor have i said that in this thread. there are plenty of reasons to dislike him, and his attitude is only one of them.

what i said was that his attitude hasn't changed in the last four years that i have been following him. so, dont say you (figuratively of course) are no longer his fan because of his attitude, because his attitude has not changed since i started watching him four or so years ago.

i expect idra to "shit in my cereal," so when he does it, im not surprised. if you are his fan expecting him not to "shit in your cereal" then you are a fan of someone that idra is not (nor has he ever been).


I guess that settles the argument. I have simply underestimated your obsession with Greg Fields and the persona he projects. Still, I'm left wondering how someone can appreciate someone that doesn't appreciate them, but that's a question that cannot be answered here.
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 20:55:41
April 29 2012 20:55 GMT
#481
It's been a while since i last had positive emotions on account of Idra. DRG brings me joy with his wins, Stephano brings me joy with his wins, Idra brings me only disappointment.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
April 29 2012 20:56 GMT
#482
On April 30 2012 05:49 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


His attitude didn't change. Some former fans' perception of his attitude has.

I'd say his attitude has changed, especially during that string in 2011 where he won an IEM, the Asus Invite, and had an amazing run at MLG Orlando. But, I feel it's changed BACK to what it used to be. It's sad as a fan to see, but that is what being a fan is about. Sticking through when it's rough, always looking at the future and hoping that Greg will release the mother fucking Gracken again.
EG/C9/ALL/TSM
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#483
On April 30 2012 05:36 Omri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:32 Supah wrote:
So, recap for someone who didn't watch?


Game 1 - Huk gets DT, IdrA leaves, no gg.

Game 2 - Long macro game on Shakurs, Archon Toilet, Idra leaves, no gg.

Game 3 - 6 pool into Hydralisk and Nydus Worm that fails, Idra leaves, no gg.

Game 4 - 6 pool.... .... ... no gg..

Huk 4 - 0 IdrA.


So he did exactly what he did vs Alive?
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:57 GMT
#484
On April 30 2012 05:53 otgomni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:47 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:42 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:36 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:33 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:25 hypercube wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


If you support Idra no matter what, good for you. But don't call people out just because they abandon him when they realize he has a terrible attitude.

as i said above, his attitude has likely not changed in the past two years (and more likely), and, if anything, it has improved. so, abandoning him for having a bad attitude makes no sense. people abandon him when he fails to win; that is, by definition, a fair weather fan.


You need to analyze the big picture. There's more going on than someone's bitch-fit after losing a game.

please explain the big picture that i am missing. then, explain to me why you are more qualified to make these decisions than EG's management, tournament organizers, sponsors, etc. because they arent agreeing with you.


All I'm saying is you seem to think that, if someone doesn't like Idra it's because they don't like his attitude. It's more than that. It's because he treats all aspects of the sport like they are below him, including his fans and his team. How can you call someone a fair-weather fan doesn't agree with his view of sportsmanship? It's bigger than his shit attitude - it's his entire approach to the game. If you think this doesn't have an effect with viewership or purchasing power, especially with the increase in exposure in general and "seriousness" taken to e-Sports as an industry, you're mistaken. But that's fine. Keep supporting someone that shits in your cereal.

i dont think that people only dislike him because of his attitude. nor have i said that in this thread. there are plenty of reasons to dislike him, and his attitude is only one of them.

what i said was that his attitude hasn't changed in the last four years that i have been following him. so, dont say you (figuratively of course) are no longer his fan because of his attitude, because his attitude has not changed since i started watching him four or so years ago.

i expect idra to "shit in my cereal," so when he does it, im not surprised. if you are his fan expecting him not to "shit in your cereal" then you are a fan of someone that idra is not (nor has he ever been).


I guess that settles the argument. I have simply underestimated your obsession with Greg Fields and the persona he projects. Still, I'm left wondering how someone can appreciate someone that doesn't appreciate them, but that's a question that cannot be answered here.

lol. im not obsessed with idra. i dont have posters of him on my walls, i dont subscribe to his twitter/fan club, etc. when i see he is playing, i watch because i find him interesting. i watch ITG because i love to hear his and the other members' opinions. they are entertaining.

and let me tell you exactly why i "appreciate him:" i like his "i dont give a shit attitude." that includes him not giving a shit about me. if you want a player to act like he is your best friend, thats cool, thats your thing. but its not mine. i think people take this whole esports thing way too seriously and i like it when someone comes in and says "i dont give a shit" like idra.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 20:59 GMT
#485
On April 30 2012 05:57 Benjamin99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:36 Omri wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:32 Supah wrote:
So, recap for someone who didn't watch?


Game 1 - Huk gets DT, IdrA leaves, no gg.

Game 2 - Long macro game on Shakurs, Archon Toilet, Idra leaves, no gg.

Game 3 - 6 pool into Hydralisk and Nydus Worm that fails, Idra leaves, no gg.

Game 4 - 6 pool.... .... ... no gg..

Huk 4 - 0 IdrA.


So he did exactly what he did vs Alive?

it wasn't exactly a throw-away since huk is greedy, and six pool isnt as fail against a p as a t, but it was still weak to see. his second game was amazing; he just decided not to give us another in the third or fourth.
Darothane
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United Kingdom16 Posts
April 29 2012 21:02 GMT
#486
On April 30 2012 05:44 otgomni wrote:
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On April 30 2012 05:44 eYeball wrote:
Not really fun series to watch tbh, not worth it. Better watch MC vs Stephano at IPL


Was a much better series. Watching the MC/Stephano respect grow through the games was nice as well.



do you have links to VODS? I looked on youtube but couldn't find them :/
otgomni
Profile Joined March 2012
United States33 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 21:05:00
April 29 2012 21:03 GMT
#487
On April 30 2012 06:02 Darothane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:44 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:44 eYeball wrote:
Not really fun series to watch tbh, not worth it. Better watch MC vs Stephano at IPL


Was a much better series. Watching the MC/Stephano respect grow through the games was nice as well.



do you have links to VODS? I looked on youtube but couldn't find them :/


The games were played last night and they aired the replay today on IPLStream for the EU crowd. I imagine the VODs will be available over the next few days through their site. It's typically 8 hours after airing but I don't know IPL's schedule.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
April 29 2012 21:09 GMT
#488
I think of IdrA like that kid on the (Insert sport) team who was mediocre but threw huge fits when ever he lost and no one really liked playing against him because if you won he would just throw a tantrum but if you lost he would gloat about it. Most of the time the other people hate him/her and stopped playing against them but for whatever reason it seems IdrA fans are still IdrA fans.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
April 29 2012 21:11 GMT
#489
On April 30 2012 06:02 Darothane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:44 otgomni wrote:
On April 30 2012 05:44 eYeball wrote:
Not really fun series to watch tbh, not worth it. Better watch MC vs Stephano at IPL


Was a much better series. Watching the MC/Stephano respect grow through the games was nice as well.



do you have links to VODS? I looked on youtube but couldn't find them :/


Here you are.

http://www.twitch.tv/ignproleague/b/316504828
MintPanda
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 21:14:17
April 29 2012 21:13 GMT
#490
Well, let's face it, people are easily entertained by drama, rivalries and controversy. IdrA always was and probably always will be impolite when playing his games it's not going to change. The fact of the matter is that when there is a champion who can flaunt and flex his muscles, it is almost irrelevant as to how well mannered he is. It goes for any sports, and cocky tournament winners and international champions will have that thick line between absolute fanboyism/hunger for drama/rivalries and hatred/intolerance for "bad" manners. Because of this, idra, who was almost always surrounded by controversy during the younger stage of sc2, will always have a flock of viewers hoping and waiting for his signature bad manners.

This is all good for stirring up some excitement and hype for him and the game (such as the rivalry between IdrA and MC/Huk), but that's only when he's actually performing decently. Once he starts to sink into a slump and stay there, you will definitely start seeing a sharp decline in his viewership.

Let's face it, he's raged all the time about how "silly" the other races are and how "easy" it is to just cheese, and in these games he's done nothing to back up anything he's said before, and he's turning into a cheesy scrub.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 21:17:13
April 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#491
On April 30 2012 06:09 DreamChaser wrote:
I think of IdrA like that kid on the (Insert sport) team who was mediocre but threw huge fits when ever he lost and no one really liked playing against him because if you won he would just throw a tantrum but if you lost he would gloat about it. Most of the time the other people hate him/her and stopped playing against them but for whatever reason it seems IdrA fans are still IdrA fans.


I think there is two reason. First he is an American zerg and not many of those around. Second reason are his BM. For some reason people like to see that.

But his days as a competive player are pretty much gone. I dont expect much off him. The game have evolved so much and Idra simply not good enough anymore. He lacks unit control and his decision and game awareness are awefull.

Compare him to the new super zerg on the NA scene aka Scarlet and you can see if you watch there games closely that she is actually ahead of idra.

But thats Esport for you old players fall new players rise.
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
April 29 2012 21:23 GMT
#492
i was dissapointed, i felt he left early in a lot of these games when it wasnt exactly over :\ espc game 3
pff
I_PROTOSSED_MY_HW
Profile Joined August 2011
22 Posts
April 29 2012 21:27 GMT
#493
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:

they (EG) got in bed with idra knowing who he is. i think they are more qualified to decide whether he can represent the team.


What makes you say that? Looks like an appeal to authority to me.

On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:

also, incontrol said on the last SOTG that Dreamhack was upset that idra couldnt come because they lost tons of viewers. everything idra touches immediately gets an absurd number of viewers. so, apparently, the sport is doing just fine with idra's "bad" attitude.


I haven't followed the scene intently as of late, so I don't know whether or not this still holds, but Idra's games never fail to disappoint me. It's like he's playing with the mindset that he's going to ragequit the instant he encounters any adversity. I can safely say that Idra's participation in any tournament has made the viewing experience less enjoyable for me, mainly because most of Idra's games consist of an insipid period, most often followed by a silly mistake on Idra's part, and finally the optional whining and bitching followed by the ragequit.

Also, just for the record, I don't really care about how many people watch SC2, I care about the quality of the games. Now that I think about it, that's really all I care about when it comes to watching SC2. Needless to say, I think the quality of games involving Idra is really bad.
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
April 29 2012 21:41 GMT
#494
On April 30 2012 06:27 I_PROTOSSED_MY_HW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:

they (EG) got in bed with idra knowing who he is. i think they are more qualified to decide whether he can represent the team.


What makes you say that? Looks like an appeal to authority to me.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:

also, incontrol said on the last SOTG that Dreamhack was upset that idra couldnt come because they lost tons of viewers. everything idra touches immediately gets an absurd number of viewers. so, apparently, the sport is doing just fine with idra's "bad" attitude.


I haven't followed the scene intently as of late, so I don't know whether or not this still holds, but Idra's games never fail to disappoint me. It's like he's playing with the mindset that he's going to ragequit the instant he encounters any adversity. I can safely say that Idra's participation in any tournament has made the viewing experience less enjoyable for me, mainly because most of Idra's games consist of an insipid period, most often followed by a silly mistake on Idra's part, and finally the optional whining and bitching followed by the ragequit.

Also, just for the record, I don't really care about how many people watch SC2, I care about the quality of the games. Now that I think about it, that's really all I care about when it comes to watching SC2. Needless to say, I think the quality of games involving Idra is really bad.

Yea, players like Idra don't produce good games because they give up at the first sign of adversity. Some of the greatest comebacks in BW were remembered as such because those players never gave up. Some are even made fun of (Fantasy GG timing) but in the end the games are much more entertaining because you know the players are giving it everything they have to win the game instead of leaving when things *start* to go bad
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 29 2012 21:42 GMT
#495
On April 30 2012 06:27 I_PROTOSSED_MY_HW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:

they (EG) got in bed with idra knowing who he is. i think they are more qualified to decide whether he can represent the team.


What makes you say that? Looks like an appeal to authority to me.

Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:

also, incontrol said on the last SOTG that Dreamhack was upset that idra couldnt come because they lost tons of viewers. everything idra touches immediately gets an absurd number of viewers. so, apparently, the sport is doing just fine with idra's "bad" attitude.


I haven't followed the scene intently as of late, so I don't know whether or not this still holds, but Idra's games never fail to disappoint me. It's like he's playing with the mindset that he's going to ragequit the instant he encounters any adversity. I can safely say that Idra's participation in any tournament has made the viewing experience less enjoyable for me, mainly because most of Idra's games consist of an insipid period, most often followed by a silly mistake on Idra's part, and finally the optional whining and bitching followed by the ragequit.

Also, just for the record, I don't really care about how many people watch SC2, I care about the quality of the games. Now that I think about it, that's really all I care about when it comes to watching SC2. Needless to say, I think the quality of games involving Idra is really bad.

you dont think the team managers are better qualified to determine what is best for the team than a random forum poster? i'm not sure i need to qualify that statement with anything more.

idra's games lately have not been "bad." they have been utter shit (at least what i have seen). i don't think he is going to go on ITG and say "im playing the best i have been doing in years." so, i will continue to support him and when he comes back to his glory, i will be there rooting for him. if he doesnt then it will be upsetting, but life goes on and i wish all the best to him.
IMLyte
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada714 Posts
April 29 2012 21:46 GMT
#496
This is getting out of hand... I like IdrA but throwing games you know are going to be watched by alot of people (twice?!?!)is just retarded. I don't even know why they made a sponsored thread.. waste of time
I'ma show you how great I am ~ Muhammed Ali
System42
Profile Joined August 2011
172 Posts
April 29 2012 22:05 GMT
#497
this shit is not a rivalry Idra was just talking to huk and being all nice to him on his stream when he got a game against him there managers told them to do this so if you think oh idras being bm to huk because they have a rivalry your stupid. they dont anymore so dont think they do they told idra to say stuff like that.
Penecks
Profile Joined August 2010
United States600 Posts
April 29 2012 22:12 GMT
#498
On April 30 2012 07:05 System42 wrote:
this shit is not a rivalry Idra was just talking to huk and being all nice to him on his stream when he got a game against him there managers told them to do this so if you think oh idras being bm to huk because they have a rivalry your stupid. they dont anymore so dont think they do they told idra to say stuff like that.

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if they're just keeping up appearances, I mean let's face it Idra attracts a lot of viewers that hardly care about his gameplay, they just want to see BM or drama. Since the Orb debacle Idra can't really go around calling people "faggots" or some other endearing terms he liked to use, but he has to keep up some of the BM appearances from the past, so I'm not very surprised at how this went. If Idra won 4 - 2 or something we wouldn't even be here anymore speaking about it. I doubt Idra the "real" person would go out of his way to be BM to a teammate if there was no other motive.
straight poppin
TheAngryZergling
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
April 29 2012 22:19 GMT
#499
On April 30 2012 05:08 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 05:03 TheAngryZergling wrote:
I am disappoint.

I won't be cheering for or tuning in for idra until either his results or attitude improve. When he has neither, whats the point?

GG Huk. Your code b opponents will fall before you.

i think thats the definition of a fair weather fan. i will root for idra regardless because i just like him.


I like what I perceive to be the guy hidden behind the idra persona. I think he is a very smart, articulate player and I still will tune into his stream when I have the chance to watch streams and Sheth isn't streaming. But being someone who is very possessive of the time they have on this earth, I don't want to be left with the same sensation of wasted time after tuning into a competitive match of his as I have so repeatedly.

I honestly wish him the best and hope his results improve, but until I start hearing a more balanced ratio of tales about his brilliant play in this or that competition to tales of his disappointing efforts, my time will be spent elsewhere.

Having a few dozen more hours well spent is certainly worth being labelled a fair weather fan of my 2nd favorite NA zerg.
Everything in life is most clearly explained through a Starcraft analogy.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-29 22:31:47
April 29 2012 22:31 GMT
#500
This behavior was almost interesting when he had the results to back up the temper tantrums. Now it's just getting sad.

If this doesn't have any consequences for Idra, something is rotten in the state of EG. I expect he'll be getting a talking to, though.
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
April 29 2012 22:38 GMT
#501
There was a time when you could watch idra and see good games.
Nowadays this doesnt seem to be the case.

But i get it, idra has his place in the community.
Next to incontrol, people who arent mainly popular for unbelievable skills but more for their likeable/controversial personalities.
Im looking forward to see the idra/cruncher rivality come up again.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 29 2012 22:58 GMT
#502
Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
tetrismaan
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark302 Posts
April 29 2012 23:10 GMT
#503
On April 30 2012 07:58 Bagration wrote:
Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened.


Exactly. I think all this crap was to put on a show to get more attention because EG isn't winning shit these days.
www.DanishStarcraft.com
ddinoboy
Profile Joined April 2012
United States6 Posts
April 29 2012 23:11 GMT
#504
or they would have done it anyways, just because?
I_PROTOSSED_MY_HW
Profile Joined August 2011
22 Posts
April 29 2012 23:38 GMT
#505
dAPhREAk wrote:

you dont think the team managers are better qualified to determine what is best for the team than a random forum poster? i'm not sure i need to qualify that statement with anything more.


I already pointed out that this is a logical fallacy. I'm confused, are you trolling me?

Also, I must make a distinction: While contracting Idra might be "best for the team" (quotes because of the ambiguity of 'best'), it is detrimental to the scene as a whole due to the perpetual subpar quality of his games.

---

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be allowed to play because he plays bad (compared to other professional players, of course), I'm saying that he shouldn't be allowed to play because his outward appearance is that of someone who is looking for the first possible excuse to surrender.

Over the years, Idra has displayed an aptitude for misreading the state of the games he's played, resulting in him leaving when he is ahead or slightly behind. This makes his continued premature ragequits even more puzzling to me, as most other people would probably think something along the lines of "I know I'm bad at calculating who's ahead, so I'll stick around until I can confirm with 100 % certainty that I lost the game".

Watching a game with Idra in it is like watching 50 % of another game featuring two professional players, the other 50 % being omitted because Idra would have left long before the game was decided. Before somebody replies to this specific paragraph, I'd like to point out that you don't need to be a progamer to open a replay and check the unit/income/production/etc. tabs, look around the map and to some degree ascertain the state of the game.

All that said, I wouldn't have anything against Idra if he just tried. He ought to, seeing as it's what he gets paid for. Being behind is not the same as having lost the game.
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
April 30 2012 00:01 GMT
#506
so this game is not for the fans.

I can't believe I watch this series.
goofankle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States22 Posts
April 30 2012 00:05 GMT
#507
as much as I was looking forward to this, I'd say this was a let down. I certainly expected a lot more than a 4-0 by huk
Chylo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States220 Posts
April 30 2012 00:09 GMT
#508
Haha, I thought this was a great series. I tuned in and got exactly what I expected. There's dozens of other streams if you want "serious" play. With Idra it's guaranteed entertainment. What could be more fun than trying to call out exactly when he's going to quit the game? Great series, didn't take all day, supremely entertaining and hilarious. Watching people play long drawn out games that have been over for 10 minutes and watching them say gg is boring. Watching rage quits all day, now that's worth watching.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 00:23:36
April 30 2012 00:23 GMT
#509
On April 30 2012 09:09 Chylo wrote:
Haha, I thought this was a great series. I tuned in and got exactly what I expected. There's dozens of other streams if you want "serious" play. With Idra it's guaranteed entertainment. What could be more fun than trying to call out exactly when he's going to quit the game? Great series, didn't take all day, supremely entertaining and hilarious. Watching people play long drawn out games that have been over for 10 minutes and watching them say gg is boring. Watching rage quits all day, now that's worth watching.


Personally I'm not even interested in PvZ, but if I saw a couple swear words go back and forth, it would have been worth it.
To me, Idra is almost like the bruiser at hockey games. It certainly would be nice if he could play really well, but as long as there some rowdy drama, good entertainment will be had.
Sadly, today we had to settle for a few rage quits.
Kudos to Huk for not holding back any punches.
Jaegeru
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 00:57:20
April 30 2012 00:54 GMT
#510
This was such a massive let down. Evil Geniuses really should do something about Idra and his attitude, Orb was fired for what he said yet this shit happens all the time with Idra and all he gets is a slap on the wrist.

He's obviously shown a lack of respect for his Organisations showmatch basically spitting in all of their sponsors faces and their fans, EG should really get rid of Idra and replace him with somebody that actually gives a shit and can actually produce some results by winning tournaments.

This kind of shit he does wouldn't be accepted in the Korean community so why should the foreign community accept it, just look at naniwa when he threw his match vs nestea in the blizzard cup.

edit for Grammar.
MVP on winning his Fourth GSL - "Yeah I know the routine, take the flowers and cheque, I will kiss the trophy for the photo"
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
April 30 2012 00:55 GMT
#511
Don't kid yourselves, that "bm" was staged for entertainment purposes.
11 years and counting- TL #680
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
April 30 2012 00:57 GMT
#512
On April 30 2012 07:58 Bagration wrote:
Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened.


Yep. -.- Also, even though HuK won this, I think IdrA might be a more evil genius.
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BazookaBenji
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
April 30 2012 01:01 GMT
#513
I just want to point out one thing: HuK and Idra are Team mates. Idra didnt even GG most of the games...I think idra sets a bad example for the Esports community. We have all had our fair share of nerd rage and outbursts in our lives, but i think we all can agree that we should strive towards maturity and well..things like a GG. Also i want to point out Generally the LOOSER says "GG" First because the WINNER played a Good Game vs them. Idra won't even give congrats to his own team mates for playing well.......we have a name for people like that where im from it's two parts but i'll just say the first
"Punk"
"terra Firma"
Vegetable Thins
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada5 Posts
April 30 2012 01:20 GMT
#514
I thought IdrA showed he has actually greatly improved his PvZ play in game 2. I was excited to see another good, long game but he rolled the dice twice instead lol.

He should have been able to take game 3, but he didn't scout at all... Was a fun series to watch overall though, and has generated a lot of hype.

GG's
^.^
"Marines, the counter to banelings." -The Gracken
UBavarice
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden358 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 01:51:39
April 30 2012 01:48 GMT
#515
I don't get why people are so offended when IdrA doesn't give great games in showmatches. If you dislike his personality or his play, then simply don't watch the matches! And definitely don't go crying on the forums that you want him gone or w/e. Talking about him more is just going to establish his place in the community even more. So crying out that you want EG to release him certainly isn't going to do the trick.

If IdrA plays badly his actual fans will most likely get less and less interested, and with that he may "fade away", as some people like to put it. But if a shit storm ensues every time he "throws" a meaningless match like this one, he becomes even more indispensable for EG from a PR point of view.

So act like adults and just leave IdrA be if you don't appreciate his attitude/sportsmanship/professionalism.
The Creator of the Universe, LG-IM.NesTea | The Gracken, IdrA | The Spoon Terran, "Big Papa" EG.ThorZaIN --- Fighting!!
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
April 30 2012 01:57 GMT
#516
On April 30 2012 09:54 Jaegeru wrote:
This was such a massive let down. Evil Geniuses really should do something about Idra and his attitude, Orb was fired for what he said yet this shit happens all the time with Idra and all he gets is a slap on the wrist.

He's obviously shown a lack of respect for his Organisations showmatch basically spitting in all of their sponsors faces and their fans, EG should really get rid of Idra and replace him with somebody that actually gives a shit and can actually produce some results by winning tournaments.

This kind of shit he does wouldn't be accepted in the Korean community so why should the foreign community accept it, just look at naniwa when he threw his match vs nestea in the blizzard cup.

edit for Grammar.

So what...is the entire world supposed to model itself to act like how the Korean community acts...?
Skwid1g
Profile Joined April 2011
United States953 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 02:08:25
April 30 2012 02:06 GMT
#517
On April 30 2012 10:01 BazookaBenji wrote:
I just want to point out one thing: HuK and Idra are Team mates. Idra didnt even GG most of the games...I think idra sets a bad example for the Esports community. We have all had our fair share of nerd rage and outbursts in our lives, but i think we all can agree that we should strive towards maturity and well..things like a GG. Also i want to point out Generally the LOOSER says "GG" First because the WINNER played a Good Game vs them. Idra won't even give congrats to his own team mates for playing well.......we have a name for people like that where im from it's two parts but i'll just say the first
"Punk"


It has nothing to do with nerd rage, at all. He has stated multiple times that he doesn't feel GG =/= good or bad mannered. I doubt Huk cared at all, nor did IdrA.

On April 30 2012 09:54 Jaegeru wrote:This kind of shit he does wouldn't be accepted in the Korean community so why should the foreign community accept it, just look at naniwa when he threw his match vs nestea in the blizzard cup. edit for Grammar.


...? Koreans have no problems with IdrA and he's been in Korea far longer than any other foreigner overall when you factor in the time he spent at eStro and CJ.
NaDa/Fantasy/Zero/Soulkey pls
Stonedviper
Profile Joined April 2011
74 Posts
April 30 2012 02:19 GMT
#518
It's my belief that everyone watches Idra for the same reason people watch Nascar, for the massive fireballs and explosions that happen every so often.
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
April 30 2012 02:20 GMT
#519
Cant believe I missed this. Any vods?
BSOD
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
April 30 2012 02:33 GMT
#520
On April 30 2012 11:20 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
Cant believe I missed this. Any vods?


I don't think you missed much.. t_t
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 02:59:40
April 30 2012 02:59 GMT
#521
On April 30 2012 11:20 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
Cant believe I missed this. Any vods?


sure, this is all you need to know about those games
+ Show Spoiler +

EG.IdrA has left the game!
x4
North Korea is best Korea!
Carbonthief
Profile Joined October 2010
United States289 Posts
April 30 2012 04:46 GMT
#522
On April 30 2012 11:20 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
Cant believe I missed this. Any vods?


You didn't miss anything. The only game remotely worth watching is game 2. It's not there yet, but it will be here eventually.

http://mostevil.evilgeniuses.net/Tournament/Vods/

There is a huk vs idra series there right now but it's the old one.
TheRedViper
Profile Joined October 2011
United States22 Posts
April 30 2012 05:04 GMT
#523
What a tremendous disappointment.
“Words are pale shadows of forgotten names. As names have power, words have power. Words can light fires in the minds of men. Words can wring tears from the hardest hearts.”
keindo
Profile Joined June 2011
8 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 06:17:07
April 30 2012 06:16 GMT
#524
When this happened before against aLive, tons of IdrA fans defended his actions saying that IdrA only did it because he was cheesed twice (and conveniently ignoring his lack of scouting and his poor response to pressure). I wonder if any of them will come forward to admit that they were wrong?

reference threads:
IdrA vs. Alive: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309773
further discussion: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=314767
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 06:40:11
April 30 2012 06:40 GMT
#525
On April 30 2012 11:59 amd098 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 11:20 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
Cant believe I missed this. Any vods?


sure, this is all you need to know about those games
+ Show Spoiler +

EG.IdrA has left the game!
x4


I don't even understand why my brain is still interested in idra. Scumbag brain likes being dissapointed.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
April 30 2012 06:59 GMT
#526
Huk won, so yay huk!

At the same time, no surprise that HuK won. Idra wasn't even a challenging. In fact, pathetic is the word that comes to mind. I really did expect better play, not just 2x 6 pools.

I guess the real dissapointment for me was that when Idra lost, he just left the game, he didn't even GG to his team mate.

DJ Wheat was decent as a caster. Not my personal favorite though, I've never been a big fan of his style, but he did well enough. A caster can make a one sided huk smashing only so entertaining and exciting.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
DrHiggins
Profile Joined April 2012
United States26 Posts
April 30 2012 07:32 GMT
#527
HuK imba
mawno
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden114 Posts
April 30 2012 08:09 GMT
#528
Shitty games. If Idra doesn't care about showmatches why does he keep playing them?
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
April 30 2012 08:23 GMT
#529
Wow, glad I forgot about this. Go HuK
Pink Floyd's music is like a beautiful girl walking down the street who won't talk to you.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
April 30 2012 08:36 GMT
#530
Well this went down as expected.

If I was Idra I would consider taking a break.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
RandomPlayer
Profile Joined April 2012
Russian Federation391 Posts
April 30 2012 08:48 GMT
#531
this idra's advertising image is disrespectful to viewers this time.
holyfist
Profile Joined August 2010
4 Posts
April 30 2012 09:03 GMT
#532
Idra didn't try at all last 2 games. He was probably too upset after loss in second game, but really all losses were due to his big mistakes. First game no scouting and no detection, second game terrible micro - every vortex caught all his important units, and lately 6 pooling on such big map and then missing opponent base...sad.
HUK didn't win this games, Idra defeated himself.
plutonowy
Profile Joined August 2011
Afghanistan287 Posts
April 30 2012 10:00 GMT
#533
both are crap atm
i will not tune in but GL HF
Fan of gomtv code s. Best SC2. KR >>>ALL Tasteless + Artosis >>>ALL
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 30 2012 11:45 GMT
#534
Who can resist Idra's antics? This LR was a fun read.
May the BeSt man win.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 30 2012 12:55 GMT
#535
Someone at EG needs to talk to idra about sportsmanship and what it means to be a professional player.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Meiya
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia1169 Posts
April 30 2012 14:19 GMT
#536
Idra's manners are terrible, but it is surprising he was so thoroughly dominated...
Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
April 30 2012 14:29 GMT
#537
Idra has stated he doesn't like show matches at all. And I don't think this tournament was really gonna matter if he won it
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
April 30 2012 15:21 GMT
#538
On April 30 2012 23:29 HeeroFX wrote:
Idra has stated he doesn't like show matches at all. And I don't think this tournament was really gonna matter if he won it

and?

I guess this is him saying "haha team managers! you think you can make me play a showmatch? haha fans, you think you get to see me play huk? well I DONT WANNA LOL!!!"

Stroke Me Lady Fame
Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
April 30 2012 15:32 GMT
#539
Idra's mindset is his worst enemy. He does not play to win and therefore does not win. Point in case. I bet with a friend this would be a 4-0 sweep and didn't even tune in.
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
April 30 2012 15:32 GMT
#540
On April 30 2012 17:09 mawno wrote:
Shitty games. If Idra doesn't care about showmatches why does he keep playing them?


Um money? lol...

What happened to IdrA? He use to be the great foreigner hope and now he won't even show up and play... maybe he needs a break from SC2 or something. He just doesn't even seem to care anymore at all, and it really shows.
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
April 30 2012 16:08 GMT
#541
Well, it looks like my prediction was right. Glad I didn't stay up for the games too. Disappointing series.
TheMiddl
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany9 Posts
April 30 2012 16:13 GMT
#542
Disappointing series this!

they realy played realy realy bad..
Huk with 1000000 mistakes and idra just bad as fuck..
KookyMonster
Profile Joined January 2012
United States311 Posts
April 30 2012 16:53 GMT
#543
It was sorta depressing. My favorite two players and probably the worst BO7 I've ever seen...
Paper is Imba. Scissors is fine. -Rock
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
April 30 2012 17:13 GMT
#544
Cant find the vods on the site.


By the sounds of it probably would of been a waste of time anyway
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 30 2012 18:36 GMT
#545
I take some pleasure in this.

IdrA has been a cancer in this community from the start, perpetuating the perception that having bad manners will get you recognized. There are so many better players who aren't afraid to speak their minds, but are still respectful towards their opponents and these are the players we should rally behind, not the ones who disrespect their fellow competitors, insult their fans and generally display a mean spirited attitude.

We shouldn't give that much attention to players whose only recent accomplishment is being an arse.
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Calvin[Deck]
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark88 Posts
April 30 2012 18:37 GMT
#546
From what i can read i am glad i did not watch, and i feel sorry for EG and Idra.

I feel sorry for EG because i like that they try to put on some content and attention, and show matches are a part of it.

I feel sorry for Idra for not growing up, and not showing his best game.

Perhaps he does really not like Huk, or ZvP for that matter, but it is no excuse for not showing his best performance, even if he loose.
Loes
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada115 Posts
April 30 2012 19:14 GMT
#547
On April 30 2012 11:19 Stonedviper wrote:
It's my belief that everyone watches Idra for the same reason people watch Nascar, for the massive fireballs and explosions that happen every so often.


you sir are a genius.
knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
April 30 2012 19:49 GMT
#548
IdrA just thinks his opponents are better than they are. I saw a game of him vs alicia and idra was destryong alicia but he lost because he waited way too long to attack then got archon toileted. And this bad attitude that you all like bitching about so much is what makes IdrA so fun to watch. You never know what he might say and it's always fun watching him leave games with no gg. People love drama in the sc2 community and that's what IdrA provides, so stop bitching about it and appreciate it because it brings viewers and grows the community.

Also, despite what you all say, IdrA still produces entertaining games very frequently even if he's on the losing end. Back to back 6 pool is just what makes IdrA IdrA. Without the things like that he would be just like any other boring mediocre pro zerg.
Tanag
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada204 Posts
April 30 2012 19:52 GMT
#549
Does anyone know if the replays are available from this event?
www.StatCraft.net - 1v1 Ladder Stat Tracker
Seaweed
Profile Joined August 2010
United States48 Posts
April 30 2012 22:01 GMT
#550
On May 01 2012 04:49 knOxStarcraft wrote:
IdrA just thinks his opponents are better than they are. I saw a game of him vs alicia and idra was destryong alicia but he lost because he waited way too long to attack then got archon toileted. And this bad attitude that you all like bitching about so much is what makes IdrA so fun to watch. You never know what he might say and it's always fun watching him leave games with no gg. People love drama in the sc2 community and that's what IdrA provides, so stop bitching about it and appreciate it because it brings viewers and grows the community.

Also, despite what you all say, IdrA still produces entertaining games very frequently even if he's on the losing end. Back to back 6 pool is just what makes IdrA IdrA. Without the things like that he would be just like any other boring mediocre pro zerg.



Right on. Its also obvious that IdrA was just showing some brotherly love towards HuK by teasing him, as DJWheat stated during the games.
Viking182
Profile Joined February 2012
Italy27 Posts
April 30 2012 23:07 GMT
#551
On May 01 2012 04:52 Tanag wrote:
Does anyone know if the replays are available from this event?


http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/316597888
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
May 01 2012 00:55 GMT
#552
On May 01 2012 03:36 kafkaesque wrote:
I take some pleasure in this.

IdrA has been a cancer in this community from the start, perpetuating the perception that having bad manners will get you recognized. There are so many better players who aren't afraid to speak their minds, but are still respectful towards their opponents and these are the players we should rally behind, not the ones who disrespect their fellow competitors, insult their fans and generally display a mean spirited attitude.

We shouldn't give that much attention to players whose only recent accomplishment is being an arse.


haha, but the perception is true. Why else do you think thousands of viewers watch idra when he streams?? If I remember correctly its usually around the 10k mark. Secondly I don't think he's mean spirited at all. The main thing he doesn't do is "gg" at the end of the game, which is generally irrelevant and can easily be interpreted as him leaving in anger rather than intentionally disrespecting his opponent (if you played SC2 you'd know, sometimes it hard to type after a brutal game). Not to mention that its a logical fallacy to interpret that negatively, but I won't get into that. And from the comments he rarely makes, they could easily be interpreted as Idra joking around (he does live in the same house as Huk does, being on the same team, making it hard to believe he intentionally tries to be hostile). We also know from interviews that he respects huk and jokes around with him too.

It makes a whole lot more sense to just understand Idra as being frustrated and going for simpler builds because of that. Although I think with a little different control the 6 pool could have worked out quite well.
Tanag
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada204 Posts
May 01 2012 01:00 GMT
#553
On May 01 2012 08:07 Viking182 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 04:52 Tanag wrote:
Does anyone know if the replays are available from this event?


http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/316597888


Thanks!
www.StatCraft.net - 1v1 Ladder Stat Tracker
StrafeJD
Profile Joined November 2011
United States39 Posts
May 01 2012 01:08 GMT
#554
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.
https://twitter.com/#!/StrafeJD
texmix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States106 Posts
May 01 2012 01:13 GMT
#555
saying gg is so cliche that it no longer has meaning. Get over it, community.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
May 01 2012 02:36 GMT
#556
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
TrisOD
Profile Joined January 2011
United States12 Posts
May 01 2012 03:58 GMT
#557
This should be an exciting series, I am willing to bet that whoever wins game 1 is the player that takes it all.
GiggleParade
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3 Posts
May 01 2012 05:16 GMT
#558
On May 01 2012 10:13 texmix wrote:
saying gg is so cliche that it no longer has meaning. Get over it, community.


I always thought of it more as common courtesy.
And that's why you always leave a note.
ePdeLay
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia220 Posts
May 01 2012 05:35 GMT
#559
most of the time you gg you dont mean it anyway so stop bitching
Mitsuz
Profile Joined April 2012
9 Posts
May 01 2012 07:27 GMT
#560
On NA ~80% of my games don't end with my opponent leaving on gg lol.
Sergio1992
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Italy522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 07:44:59
May 01 2012 07:44 GMT
#561
Were some money being awarded to the winner? If not, I think I finally understood Idra.

He doesn't care about his fan base
Well ,not a problem, I don't give a fuck to him, I just like to watch him rage.
But...if he doesn't care about me, I won't disable adblock for him.
Only for whitera and destiny it happened. For all the others, when they will prove to be people who actually care about their fans, I shall do the same.

I just watch his stream to see his face when he gets wiped off the map.
I bet that if he would remove his face from the stream, no one would watch it.

Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
May 01 2012 12:14 GMT
#562
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.
Shottaz
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom414 Posts
May 01 2012 12:50 GMT
#563
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


You are entitled to your view by all means, but the community generally accepts glhf's and gg's. By not doing so, you are sometimes perceived as someone who is saying 'I hope you don't have good luck and don't care if you have fun'... which is what you just said anyway.

If someone said that to me before a game of anything, I wouldn't be playing a game with them in the first place.

For show or not, I think Idra should have gg'd his teammate. Just because the 'new generation' doesn't get it doesn't make it the norm or acceptable.
Praise the sun! \o/
coReY425
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark86 Posts
May 01 2012 13:12 GMT
#564
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


I agree, especially on ladder. If Im losing, Im angry.
Bad manners is gging when youre winning, or typing stuff like "too ez".
Even manner mules are insanely more bad mannered then not typing gg for the rest of your life, and people seem to think its fine and hillarious.
I get that progamers know each other and its no big deal that they mannermule, but its still way, way, way more bm then not gging a random on ladder.
klitschKO
Profile Joined March 2011
18 Posts
May 01 2012 13:58 GMT
#565
i like gg
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
May 01 2012 14:14 GMT
#566
I don't know what glhf is even supposed to signify, but gg'ing is a way of indicating you've gracefully accepted defeat as a professional should. Idra's bitterness and condescension was entertaining back in the early years, but you'd expect him to finally grow up after all this time.

Maybe he behaves like this just to maintain his image for other reasons, but we've seen him give up important games too often for it to just be a show.

Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
May 01 2012 16:57 GMT
#567
On May 01 2012 22:12 coReY425 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


I get that progamers know each other and its no big deal that they mannermule, but its still way, way, way more bm then not gging a random on ladder.


Why, because you think so?
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
May 01 2012 16:57 GMT
#568
On May 01 2012 21:50 Shottaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


You are entitled to your view by all means, but the community generally accepts glhf's and gg's. By not doing so, you are sometimes perceived as someone who is saying 'I hope you don't have good luck and don't care if you have fun'... which is what you just said anyway.

If someone said that to me before a game of anything, I wouldn't be playing a game with them in the first place.

For show or not, I think Idra should have gg'd his teammate. Just because the 'new generation' doesn't get it doesn't make it the norm or acceptable.


First off I said i don't care if my opponent have fun or luck during game, nowhere i said that I hope for lack of fun or bad luck for them - especially in context of fun it would be stupid, so don't put unspoken words in my mouth. I just focus on my play, the rest is absolutely not important for me - it is all it means.

Secondly, as I understand from your post in ladder games if someone don't gl hf you, you just leave the game?

Thirdly, during my ladder sessions about 40% of my opponents use gg, gl, hf, the rest of them not - so i assume it is not as commonly acceptable norm. Moreover many times i had nice little talks after games with guys who never spoken to me during match, and they were completely fine and nice - I never felt lack of gg, hf and gl indicates any bad manners. On the contrary many guys who used gl hf were the most whining and bad mannered gamers, after losing games.

And lastly, paraphrasing your words, fact that previous generation of gamers used gl hf, gg doesnt make it norm or acceptable.


LayZRR
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:04:05
May 01 2012 17:45 GMT
#569
Where can i find the scores?

would like to see all of the tournament from most evil genius. but theres no liquipedia site as far as i can tell.

and VODS pls
sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
May 01 2012 18:01 GMT
#570
I care a lot less about what he says during games than about the way he played after he was down 2-0. If I were the sponsor and had put up money for that match I'd be pretty outraged by the lack of effort. I know I was pissed that I wasted time watching it.
War is a drug.
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
May 01 2012 19:35 GMT
#571
On April 30 2012 07:58 Bagration wrote:
Publicity is publicity, and now everyone is talking about Idra and EG. Now everyone is paying attention to the tournament and curious about what happened.


EG's been well-known since forever now, so I highly doubt that the publicity they're looking for today is negative publicity!
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
zalem95
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru184 Posts
May 01 2012 23:30 GMT
#572
this bo7 was really painfull to watch
nothing special
JoFritzMD
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia163 Posts
May 02 2012 02:43 GMT
#573
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 11:36 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 01 2012 10:08 StrafeJD wrote:
Idra should get some punishment for not GGing, even if he is just going against his teammate. It's just not fun for me to watch somebody rage, not GG, and then 6 pool two games straight.


You don't have to GG and you shouldn't be punished for not doing so. If you want to make it a rule then do it. If you don't, then be quiet and choose not the watch Idra then. Stop complaining about somebody who you expect to do something outside of their norm.


This.

I am fucking tired of persons saying GG and GL HF are important and are sign of being polite.
Guess what? It is not. I don't give a rat's ass if someone "gg" or "gl hf" me and I never assume this is a sign of bad manners - I think a lot of progamers think the same.

Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


I don't care if they don't 'gg' because I know if they don't 'gg' it means they're mad.
"Guess what. All my strategies are made of balls." - Tasteless
Daitakk
Profile Joined November 2011
77 Posts
May 02 2012 06:29 GMT
#574
This whole thing was a joke, the games where played many months before the "event" and alot of them looked like they may have been thrown together from when they happend to meet on ladder.

Idra is currently doing a streaming marathon, on the 1st of May. Looks like hes trying to burn through his monthly contractual obligation to stream in order to spite the management. Either that or hes being made stream to compensate shitting all over their "tournament".

Speculation is fun.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 10:11:01
May 02 2012 10:02 GMT
#575
I don't get why people think not saying gg and gl hf in tournaments is acceptable. It doesn't matter whether it was a good game, or whether you want them to have fun, it is a sign of sportsmanship that is a replacement for a handshake (obviously because of the medium that eSports is run on).

Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry.

Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort.

Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/
homerPimpson
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada3 Posts
May 02 2012 14:12 GMT
#576
On May 02 2012 19:02 Ryder. wrote:
I don't get why people think not saying gg and gl hf in tournaments is acceptable. It doesn't matter whether it was a good game, or whether you want them to have fun, it is a sign of sportsmanship that is a replacement for a handshake (obviously because of the medium that eSports is run on).

Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry.

Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort.

Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/


I like how you're telling fans of eSports to stop acting like immature children when most of the fanbase are teenagers in high school. Keep shooting for the moon though.
If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
Fogetaboudit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States232 Posts
May 02 2012 14:36 GMT
#577
On May 02 2012 19:02 Ryder. wrote:
I don't get why people think not saying gg and gl hf in tournaments is acceptable. It doesn't matter whether it was a good game, or whether you want them to have fun, it is a sign of sportsmanship that is a replacement for a handshake (obviously because of the medium that eSports is run on).

Check out the 2012 Australian Open Berdych vs Almagro, one of them (forgot who) refused to shake hands with the other at the end of the game, and (IMO rightfully) was booed off the court because of it. If you want eSports to be taken seriously stop acting like immature children, thinking that refusing to show sportsmanship is ok in a professional setting just because you're angry.

Obviously when Joe Blow is playing on the ladder who gives a shit if he doesn't gg, but in a professional match where you are expected to be taken seriously, don't act like a spoilt kid and just say it. If you guys want eSports to have a degree of credibility then make an effort.

Edit: Being angry is no excuse, if Federer/Nadal/Any decent tennis player can manage to shake hands after losing the championship of a grand slam with over a million dollar first prize place, then I'm sure progamers can put their emotions on hold for a minute and gg after losing a show match :/


this
Gustis
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania70 Posts
May 02 2012 16:57 GMT
#578
who won?
Real men 4gate.
sidonelis
Profile Joined April 2011
Lithuania58 Posts
May 02 2012 16:57 GMT
#579
On May 03 2012 01:57 Gustis wrote:
who won?


Friendship
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
May 02 2012 16:58 GMT
#580
On May 03 2012 01:57 Gustis wrote:
who won?


lol... HuK won.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
May 02 2012 18:02 GMT
#581
That was an amazing series. EG is the best ^^
Life's good :D
panman05
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2 Posts
May 02 2012 18:19 GMT
#582
Idra... period
Mr. Black
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States470 Posts
May 02 2012 19:22 GMT
#583
glhf, gg = good manner
ez, offensive gg, fuck you, things orb used to say, etc. = bad manner
no glhf, no gg = no manner

Good manner means that you care about showing your respect to your opponent. It's like holding off on a fart in the elevator filled with your co-workers. Bad manner means that you want to show disrespect. It's like making eye-contact in the elevator and farting audibly. No manner means you don't know about manner or don't realize or believe the other person deserves respect. It's like walking into an elevator and not knowing that it's impolite to fart.

Getting mad on the ladder happens to us all. Showing your anger means you cannot control your emotions and that you are, essentially, a child: selfish and whiny.
Make more anything.
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
May 03 2012 00:44 GMT
#584
On May 03 2012 04:22 Mr. Black wrote:
glhf, gg = good manner
ez, offensive gg, fuck you, things orb used to say, etc. = bad manner
no glhf, no gg = no manner

Good manner means that you care about showing your respect to your opponent. It's like holding off on a fart in the elevator filled with your co-workers. Bad manner means that you want to show disrespect. It's like making eye-contact in the elevator and farting audibly. No manner means you don't know about manner or don't realize or believe the other person deserves respect. It's like walking into an elevator and not knowing that it's impolite to fart.

Getting mad on the ladder happens to us all. Showing your anger means you cannot control your emotions and that you are, essentially, a child: selfish and whiny.

Why bring farting into this? Sometimes you HAVE to fart and no amount of clenching will hold it back.
Turn off the radio
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
May 03 2012 00:56 GMT
#585
VOD?
TheDna
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany577 Posts
May 03 2012 00:57 GMT
#586
Why isnt there a result here? Or am i blind? Can someone point me to it?
Loosing more than one map to idra in bo7 would be kind of a bad result for HuK imo.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-03 02:15:31
May 03 2012 02:09 GMT
#587
This is about sportsmanship.

I remember when i was in elementary school, I played on a chess team. When we began, we shook hands. When we finished, we said good game even if it was a one sided roflstomp. We even helped each other pack up the pieces, board and clock. It was all very civilized.

Here's a very different example. At the end of every nfl game, the coaches and a few players go over to the opposing side and shake and tell them it was a good game. These were people who were, quite literally, beating the crap out of each other for the last couple hours.

Hitting enter and typing those two letters and pressing enter again is nothing. It should pretty much be reflex. If you're unhappy with your loss, hit gg and then leave right away and seethe, but don't be an ass. I've found that the higher you get on ladder, the more your opponents will gg when they lose. Is it because they played longer and have learned to do so, or is it because they're better? You decide. Personally, I think its a reflection of the player's attitude towards the game. If you have a good attitude, you will do well. If don't, well, maybe you'll do okay, but not as well as if you went in with a good attitude.

I was never a huge fan of idra, but I did respect him because he was a good player. Now he isn't well, he's lost credibility as a starcraft personality. I don't know what EG"s thinking, but I would much rather prefer to see someone like Scarlett.
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
May 03 2012 04:43 GMT
#588
Hm...IdrA...what can i say about him probably the most overrated zerg player in the sc2 scene.Not suprised he lost...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Rossen
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark177 Posts
May 03 2012 11:58 GMT
#589
^What ZergZilla said. No spoiler for the series, but i agree. .
♥ HuK ♥
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 03 2012 15:49 GMT
#590
Huk is gonna roflstomp Idra. Idra has the worst ZvP of all the good foreigner zergs
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
OOOGORE
Profile Joined April 2012
United States13 Posts
May 03 2012 19:00 GMT
#591
odd that idra looks happier than huk in the photo
swagswagswagswagswag
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
May 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#592
On May 03 2012 11:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
This is about sportsmanship.

I remember when i was in elementary school, I played on a chess team. When we began, we shook hands. When we finished, we said good game even if it was a one sided roflstomp. We even helped each other pack up the pieces, board and clock. It was all very civilized.

Here's a very different example. At the end of every nfl game, the coaches and a few players go over to the opposing side and shake and tell them it was a good game. These were people who were, quite literally, beating the crap out of each other for the last couple hours.

Hitting enter and typing those two letters and pressing enter again is nothing. It should pretty much be reflex. If you're unhappy with your loss, hit gg and then leave right away and seethe, but don't be an ass. I've found that the higher you get on ladder, the more your opponents will gg when they lose. Is it because they played longer and have learned to do so, or is it because they're better? You decide. Personally, I think its a reflection of the player's attitude towards the game. If you have a good attitude, you will do well. If don't, well, maybe you'll do okay, but not as well as if you went in with a good attitude.

I was never a huge fan of idra, but I did respect him because he was a good player. Now he isn't well, he's lost credibility as a starcraft personality. I don't know what EG"s thinking, but I would much rather prefer to see someone like Scarlett.

I agree with the whole sentiment. I also think that IdrA is still in the center of SC universe because there are very few US players with top tier championships behind their belts. Strictly speaking - IdrA draws attention of US spectators and that's why he is highly valued.

But to be honest - when I watched this Bo7 and thought about context - teammates, maybe even sitting few meters away - I sort of think that IdrA was fake-raging on purpose. That or he is just shallow as a desert.
AngelusDeLetum
Profile Joined April 2010
United States98 Posts
May 03 2012 23:50 GMT
#593
can anyone help me find the vods? didnt want to read through the thread to see who won
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
May 04 2012 00:39 GMT
#594
On May 04 2012 08:50 AngelusDeLetum wrote:
can anyone help me find the vods? didnt want to read through the thread to see who won

http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv/b/316597888 I believe this should be it
hanlonbro
Profile Joined May 2012
108 Posts
May 04 2012 05:49 GMT
#595
Can't tell is IdrA is in a slump or if HuK got lucky again. Oh well IdrA gave that game up on purpose anyway.
Jonno
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia5 Posts
May 04 2012 13:25 GMT
#596
On May 04 2012 14:49 hanlonbro wrote:
Can't tell is IdrA is in a slump or if HuK got lucky again. Oh well IdrA gave that game up on purpose anyway.


That is a stupid statement. Idra hasn't played well all year and Huk has been doing well in all the tournaments he's entered. And saying Idra lost on purpose is absurd. He lost the first two games and then didn't bother trying for the rest because he was upset (again.) When it's a show-match you play seriously for the fans watching. 6 pooling two games in a row shows that Idra does not think about the people watching at all, just himself.
hanlonbro
Profile Joined May 2012
108 Posts
May 04 2012 13:38 GMT
#597
On May 04 2012 22:25 Jonno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 14:49 hanlonbro wrote:
Can't tell is IdrA is in a slump or if HuK got lucky again. Oh well IdrA gave that game up on purpose anyway.


That is a stupid statement. Idra hasn't played well all year and Huk has been doing well in all the tournaments he's entered. And saying Idra lost on purpose is absurd. He lost the first two games and then didn't bother trying for the rest because he was upset (again.) When it's a show-match you play seriously for the fans watching. 6 pooling two games in a row shows that Idra does not think about the people watching at all, just himself.


Yea because 1-7 is such good results. I wish I had that top 3 control. And yes, IdrA did lose in purpose because he 6 pooled.
stillearning
Profile Joined November 2010
12 Posts
May 04 2012 14:45 GMT
#598
On May 04 2012 22:25 Jonno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 14:49 hanlonbro wrote:
Can't tell is IdrA is in a slump or if HuK got lucky again. Oh well IdrA gave that game up on purpose anyway.


That is a stupid statement. Idra hasn't played well all year and Huk has been doing well in all the tournaments he's entered. And saying Idra lost on purpose is absurd. He lost the first two games and then didn't bother trying for the rest because he was upset (again.) When it's a show-match you play seriously for the fans watching. 6 pooling two games in a row shows that Idra does not think about the people watching at all, just himself.


I Agree with this. If he cared at all about the fans watching he would not have six pooled twice. Idra is a no talent hack who's time in SC2 is up. Lets get this asshole out of our community before he ruins the game.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
May 04 2012 15:41 GMT
#599
Why would anyone not take a showmatch serious which is initiated by the own team? That's stupid, you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
Get off my lawn, young punks
DeaDoXFighting
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada115 Posts
May 04 2012 15:45 GMT
#600
Awww dissapointed that Idra gave up after 2-0, he could of come back I think his way of thinking is too depressive when it comes to playing a best of series, he looses 2 first games then absolutely can't come back so he's not even trying .
Go Liquid Hero !!!!!
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 04 2012 16:07 GMT
#601
On May 05 2012 00:41 ACrow wrote:
Why would anyone not take a showmatch serious which is initiated by the own team? That's stupid, you don't bite the hand that feeds you.


You said it all. And that's why i don't understand Idra at all.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 04 2012 16:49 GMT
#602
hahahahaha idra raging again and being bm again? for his own team's showmatch no less?

what a fail.

he sucks at sc2 now, everyone else is better than him. sure he might be one of the best zerg is NA, but NA is a pathetic joke compared to the rest of the world. no results and shitty personality and terrible attitude. sounds about right.

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EneMecH
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom218 Posts
May 04 2012 17:47 GMT
#603
On May 01 2012 21:14 Embir wrote:
Besides, Good Luck, Have Fun is a dumb sentence - I dont really care if my opponent have fun or not, he plays this game so it is logical that he likes this games and plays for pleasure, and lets face it no one wants his opponent to be lucky, you want luck to be on your side.

Fact that previous generation of gamers used this sentences, doesnt mean people should use it now.
I deliberately don't use them.


That's just so wrong. "I don't really care if my opponent have fun or not". There's a word for that. It's called sociopathy. "Let's face it nobody wants his opponents to be lucky." YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT! The point is both players say goodluck and, in the theory of the sentiment, BOTH players HAVE good luck, meaning that the best player wins as neither player gets unlucky. Saying goodluck have fun is like saying "May the best player win and since I'm not a clinical psychopath I'd prefer for you to be happy as you are another human being."
Tears soaks each hand the dealer's dealt. But time taught me how to see every second as heaven even when they're perfectly disguised as hell.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
May 04 2012 20:14 GMT
#604
On May 05 2012 01:49 fishjie wrote:
hahahahaha idra raging again and being bm again? for his own team's showmatch no less?

what a fail.

he sucks at sc2 now, everyone else is better than him. sure he might be one of the best zerg is NA, but NA is a pathetic joke compared to the rest of the world. no results and shitty personality and terrible attitude. sounds about right.


Im rooting for Scarlette and Sheth to become the Zerg icons of NA
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
May 04 2012 22:55 GMT
#605
On May 05 2012 05:14 DreamChaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 01:49 fishjie wrote:
hahahahaha idra raging again and being bm again? for his own team's showmatch no less?

what a fail.

he sucks at sc2 now, everyone else is better than him. sure he might be one of the best zerg is NA, but NA is a pathetic joke compared to the rest of the world. no results and shitty personality and terrible attitude. sounds about right.


Im rooting for Scarlette and Sheth to become the Zerg icons of NA


Me too. I am all for following a hero through a 29% winrate slump (and nobody can deny IdrA has been far from his peak for a loooong time) but his attitude towards everything is just depressing. It is impossible to get excited for any of his showmatches any more because they all end the same way.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
hanlonbro
Profile Joined May 2012
108 Posts
May 04 2012 22:57 GMT
#606
On May 05 2012 07:55 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 05:14 DreamChaser wrote:
On May 05 2012 01:49 fishjie wrote:
hahahahaha idra raging again and being bm again? for his own team's showmatch no less?

what a fail.

he sucks at sc2 now, everyone else is better than him. sure he might be one of the best zerg is NA, but NA is a pathetic joke compared to the rest of the world. no results and shitty personality and terrible attitude. sounds about right.


Im rooting for Scarlette and Sheth to become the Zerg icons of NA


Me too. I am all for following a hero through a 29% winrate slump (and nobody can deny IdrA has been far from his peak for a loooong time) but his attitude towards everything is just depressing. It is impossible to get excited for any of his showmatches any more because they all end the same way.


Unlike Sheth or Scarlet, IdrA is in a slump. He'll return to best foreign player in the world in no time
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
May 04 2012 23:01 GMT
#607
On May 05 2012 07:57 hanlonbro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 07:55 Cyro wrote:
On May 05 2012 05:14 DreamChaser wrote:
On May 05 2012 01:49 fishjie wrote:
hahahahaha idra raging again and being bm again? for his own team's showmatch no less?

what a fail.

he sucks at sc2 now, everyone else is better than him. sure he might be one of the best zerg is NA, but NA is a pathetic joke compared to the rest of the world. no results and shitty personality and terrible attitude. sounds about right.


Im rooting for Scarlette and Sheth to become the Zerg icons of NA


Me too. I am all for following a hero through a 29% winrate slump (and nobody can deny IdrA has been far from his peak for a loooong time) but his attitude towards everything is just depressing. It is impossible to get excited for any of his showmatches any more because they all end the same way.


Unlike Sheth or Scarlet, IdrA is in a slump. He'll return to best foreign player in the world in no time


Im sorry but that was said 8-10 months ago. The announcement of EG gaining HuK and getting a pro house in korea which then turned out to be just IdrA + HuK in the slayers house for 2 months was one of the biggest dissapointments in sc2's history when it was underwhelming compared to their announcements expectations and then even that fell apart so quickly with no results.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
May 05 2012 01:00 GMT
#608
Well I didn't watch this cause I didn't had the time and reading this thread I won't be watching the VOD.
Gokba Alhakel
Jonno
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 03:17:55
May 05 2012 02:25 GMT
#609
Huk played well
Jonno
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 03:18:44
May 05 2012 02:27 GMT
#610
On May 04 2012 22:38 hanlonbro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 22:25 Jonno wrote:
On May 04 2012 14:49 hanlonbro wrote:
Can't tell is IdrA is in a slump or if HuK got lucky again. Oh well IdrA gave that game up on purpose anyway.


That is a stupid statement. Idra hasn't played well all year and Huk has been doing well in all the tournaments he's entered. And saying Idra lost on purpose is absurd. He lost the first two games and then didn't bother trying for the rest because he was upset (again.) When it's a show-match you play seriously for the fans watching. 6 pooling two games in a row shows that Idra does not think about the people watching at all, just himself.


Yea because 1-7 is such good results. I wish I had that top 3 control. And yes, IdrA did lose in purpose because he 6 pooled.


Idra is 1-7 not Huk. Nice of you to point that out. Yes, Idra did throw the last two games because he couldn't win and he didn't care about anyone but himself. It's a show-match, it's intended for the fans, there was no money involved for the players but Idra just did what he pleased and raged and didn't take the games seriously. He did the same thing vs alive in their show-match. It just shows you that Idra does not care about his fans, only himself. His actions were disgraceful and EG should really talk to him about it. It's pathetic that you're trying to defend what he did.
hanlonbro
Profile Joined May 2012
108 Posts
May 05 2012 04:41 GMT
#611
On May 05 2012 11:27 Jonno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 22:38 hanlonbro wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:25 Jonno wrote:
On May 04 2012 14:49 hanlonbro wrote:
Can't tell is IdrA is in a slump or if HuK got lucky again. Oh well IdrA gave that game up on purpose anyway.


That is a stupid statement. Idra hasn't played well all year and Huk has been doing well in all the tournaments he's entered. And saying Idra lost on purpose is absurd. He lost the first two games and then didn't bother trying for the rest because he was upset (again.) When it's a show-match you play seriously for the fans watching. 6 pooling two games in a row shows that Idra does not think about the people watching at all, just himself.


Yea because 1-7 is such good results. I wish I had that top 3 control. And yes, IdrA did lose in purpose because he 6 pooled.


Idra is 1-7 not Huk. Nice of you to point that out. Yes, Idra did throw the last two games because he couldn't win and he didn't care about anyone but himself. It's a show-match, it's intended for the fans, there was no money involved for the players but Idra just did what he pleased and raged and didn't take the games seriously. He did the same thing vs alive in their show-match. It just shows you that Idra does not care about his
fans, only himself. His actions were disgraceful and EG should really talk to him about it. It's pathetic that you're trying to defend what he did.


Another IdrA hater in the house. IdrA played well, but HuK cheesed then got lucky. IdrA doesn't have time to waste against a player who relies on cheese and all ins to win. He is practicing. That's why he gave it away. He just doesn't want to waste his practice game against a person who does nothing but cannon rush and dt.
bigtabs
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany51 Posts
May 05 2012 06:52 GMT
#612
Seems like a good opportunity to practice his response to a cannon rush and dt.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
May 05 2012 10:13 GMT
#613
^ Yea. Clearly "I'm bad against cheese so I will rage-quit against cheese games and save like 2 hours tops to improve my macro a little bit and hope nobody will cheese me in the real tournament" is reasonable sentiment.
Jonno
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia5 Posts
May 05 2012 11:40 GMT
#614
On May 05 2012 13:41 hanlonbro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2012 11:27 Jonno wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:38 hanlonbro wrote:
On May 04 2012 22:25 Jonno wrote:
On May 04 2012 14:49 hanlonbro wrote:
Can't tell is IdrA is in a slump or if HuK got lucky again. Oh well IdrA gave that game up on purpose anyway.


That is a stupid statement. Idra hasn't played well all year and Huk has been doing well in all the tournaments he's entered. And saying Idra lost on purpose is absurd. He lost the first two games and then didn't bother trying for the rest because he was upset (again.) When it's a show-match you play seriously for the fans watching. 6 pooling two games in a row shows that Idra does not think about the people watching at all, just himself.


Yea because 1-7 is such good results. I wish I had that top 3 control. And yes, IdrA did lose in purpose because he 6 pooled.


Idra is 1-7 not Huk. Nice of you to point that out. Yes, Idra did throw the last two games because he couldn't win and he didn't care about anyone but himself. It's a show-match, it's intended for the fans, there was no money involved for the players but Idra just did what he pleased and raged and didn't take the games seriously. He did the same thing vs alive in their show-match. It just shows you that Idra does not care about his
fans, only himself. His actions were disgraceful and EG should really talk to him about it. It's pathetic that you're trying to defend what he did.


Another IdrA hater in the house. IdrA played well, but HuK cheesed then got lucky. IdrA doesn't have time to waste against a player who relies on cheese and all ins to win. He is practicing. That's why he gave it away. He just doesn't want to waste his practice game against a person who does nothing but cannon rush and dt.


Are you that stupid? Please, no one can be that stupid... Huk went for dts after expand, it was no all in it was just to do a bit of damage and Idra who failed to scout what was going on instantly left the game. They weren't practice games they were games for the fans which Idra obviously took no notice of. I'll like Idra as soon as he starts to act like a respectable player and not a child who always whines and moans about every little thing that doesn't go his way. Stop ignoring what I say because you're wrong and you know you are. Huk is clearly the better player.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
May 05 2012 22:44 GMT
#615
I think people should know to not give IdrA show matches EVER its just a waste of your fucking money. Unless there is a personal feud i can't think of a reason for IdrA seem's to even remotely care. Hell i'm sure more pro players egg IdrA hoping for a showmatch because it looks like pretty easy money to me Cheese + play hyper aggressive = win
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
somesing
Profile Joined March 2012
United States12 Posts
May 06 2012 17:54 GMT
#616
WHERE CAN I WATCH THIS LIVE??
thalim90
Profile Joined April 2012
United States68 Posts
May 09 2012 00:52 GMT
#617
Ahaha, love the smug, proud "better than you and I'm so sure of it I don't even need to try" look on idra.
Be the change you wish to see in the world :)
Fire13
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany102 Posts
May 09 2012 20:34 GMT
#618
gogo idra !
imanoobcs
Profile Joined January 2012
184 Posts
May 10 2012 04:22 GMT
#619
Poor IdrA, everyone knows he gets upset over cheese so they cheese him on purpose just to upset him. People are great. If I was IdrA, I would tell them to get bent every time they tried to arrange a showmatch. Let them play a bunch of TvP, PvP, and TvTs.
Mr.Bimbles
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Iceland457 Posts
May 11 2012 16:00 GMT
#620
I think huk will roll him! ^^
"If I was your wife I would poison your coffee" "Well If I was your husband I'd drink it"
grapedog
Profile Joined August 2010
United States151 Posts
May 20 2012 05:16 GMT
#621
this sucks, it's going to be like 3am here for me in japan to watch that.
At the end of the game, the king and the pawn go in the same box.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
May 23 2012 12:01 GMT
#622
Guys, this showmatch happened quite a long time ago :|
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