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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 28 2017 10:49 GMT
#34181
On July 28 2017 09:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
They just got electricity, have no running water, but somehow they have internet?

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Another win for me at work today amidst some annoyances. Patient's family doctor calls me thanking me profusely for referring me back to them for testing; turns out based on what I reported and recommended, she got tested, ended up with some form of unknown liver issue, requiring blood transfusion which she had yesterday and is now seeing oncology.

Get your eyes checked, people.

That's really awesome all round. Kind of brightens my shitty week as my phone just died on Wednesday so I've been running around trying to get it working and now sent it in for repairs.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-28 22:38:53
July 28 2017 22:26 GMT
#34182
I'll never understand old peoples obsession with printing and scanning things....

Like come on we have print to pdf now.... please make intelligent workable data. Zzz...
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
July 28 2017 23:19 GMT
#34183
Hey, I had to fax something to the government just yesterday. But evidently that tech is so old it's accidentally more secure than emailing PDFs.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
July 28 2017 23:20 GMT
#34184
On July 29 2017 07:26 iCanada wrote:
I'll never understand old peoples obsession with printing and scanning things....

Like come on we have print to pdf now.... please make intelligent workable data. Zzz...

Not even in the light of recent major virus outbreaks?
Hmm I wonder what the cost/benefit cost check would say about it.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 29 2017 00:01 GMT
#34185
One of my biggest pet peeves at school was when a supervisor demanded paper copies, and rather than email them to her so she could print them at her desk to read, I had to walk across the school to the staff printer which is next to her desk, print them myself, hand them to her and walk back.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
July 29 2017 00:48 GMT
#34186
On July 29 2017 08:19 phyvo wrote:
Hey, I had to fax something to the government just yesterday. But evidently that tech is so old it's accidentally more secure than emailing PDFs.


the only other place I can think fax's are important is college football recruiting. It's caused some hilarious problems over the years
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 29 2017 02:28 GMT
#34187
I think I got my sweetest deck of the format (and the whole block) already, Wave's gonna be jealous. I'm never going to get something like this again tho. UR spells archetype is sweet but it can't compare, and even 5c nonsense won't come close.

Also we had someone open God-Pharaoh's Gift in the other pod, then get passed Gate to the Afterlife pack 3 and ignore it by reflex, without reading it. I think he still ended with a good record but regrets were probably had.

+ Show Spoiler [dumbest pile I've ever had] +
Rather than split the pods by level, since the store clerk had to play as our 16th and I came a bit late, he just let things sort randomly for once, so our pod was missing probably the 2 best players, there were still 4 of us veterans, a mid-level player, the store clerk (who mostly lacks experience since he barely drafts anymore) and 2 new drafters, but not players.

Pack 1: Dreamstealer, then Torment of Scarabs (he picked Chaos Maw over it and mentioned hoping it'd wheel w/o naming it), then Vizier of the Anointed. Yeah I certainly hope this is gonna be my pair. Torment of Venom, later Supreme Will, Consign // Oblivion, and some mediocre creatures (boneslasher, that 1/4 mill). Took an early Liliana's Defeat too, partly to really cut B and try to assert the pair to myself, and passed a pick 5 Desert's Hold so I know someone shouldn't bother me.

Pack 2: Ifnir Deadlands passign Torment of Hailfire and Torment of Venom (they won't wheel). Pick 2 Champion of Wits, later another Consign // Oblivion, Spellweaver Eternal... bit short on 2-drops by mid-pack, I prioritise them as I hope to get some curve and removal to go with my eternalize/torment control plan. G looks ridiculously open (Sharpshooters on the wheel and similar stuff) and I pass an Unraveling Mummy to my right.

Pack 3: open Glory-Bound Initiate, Engima Drake and Khenra Charioteer. Strong if specific pack, take U cartouche. Pick 2 I get passed Vizier of Many Faces. Daaaamn. My luck is unreal. I pick up Angler Drake, Baleful Ammit, a late Shadowstorm Vizier, and Tah-Crop Skirmisher and Shimmerscale Drake on the wheel, Miasmic Mummy since what the hell there's so much shit I can afford to discard in my picks so far. I have so many playables I even end up cutting some G cards on purpose.

I'll let the monster I end up with speak for itself.
The Vile Manifestation was early pack 2, and when it was obvious I wouln't be cycling and should cut it I only had 2 others 2-drops and the Proven Combattant, I ended up with 7+ and cuts to make.
Also, yes, the tally is 12 commons, 11 uncommons and 3 rares (counting lands).

Starting with me, we get:
UB eternalize control
RW aggro
GW embalm
RW zombies (P1P1 Unconventional Tactics and forced W)
BW control (started U tho)
UR (prob didn't get much, one of the new drafters)
RGb (the other one, he waffled on B but has no fixing to splash the BB ones)
RGb (my right neighbour, who can, and splashes Torment of Hailfire)

Round 1 vs BW control
+ Show Spoiler +
Store clerk, lost a bunch of picks on U early on, not sure why he moved out since W should have been cut on his side (4 people in a row!) and I was the closest U, across from him.
Game 1 s slow 'cause I play a bunch of 2/1s and stuff and he plays Dune Beetle or Moaning Wall... then puts a bit of pressure with Unraveling Mummy. Vizier of the Anointed gets things going for me tho, and I kept Supreme Will from my starting hand, when with his 8th land he drops... foil Razaketh. What. I expected Overwhelming Splendor! So I counter it. I already have flyers of my own out so the game ends relatively fast after that, and eternalized champion of wits reading "draw 5 discard 2" is fucking gas.
Game 2 I get to play a t4 Torment of Scarabs, so even with Festing Mummy and Doomed Dissenter, the grind and Consign // Oblivion doom his slow deck.

For the record he has Overwhelming Splendor. So "play Razaketh, sac wall, fetch instawin aura" wouldn't have sit well.
1-0


As I come back from the store where we were playing to the main room, I hear "Look at my horse, my horse is amazing!" from a table of the other pod. Well we know what he drafted.

Round 2 vs RW zombies
+ Show Spoiler +
That's the guy who recently went the exact same colours as me as my left neighbour because he didn't care about what was open but rather whether the cards looked pretty/cool. He P1P1'd Unconventional Tactics, and ended up forcing W, not sure if straight from the start or only after his P2P1 Angel of Condemnation. R wasn't as cut as B and Frontline Devastator is a zombie so that convinced him apparently.
One of the people between us was pretty vocal about in his disapproval of the forcing, but his W half is super consistent.

Game 1 he laments playing Disposal Mummy turn 3 when my Vizier of the Anointed dumps Dreamstealer in the yard. The ground is mucked a bit between my 2/4s and his zombies, but since he has a Binding Mummy he could easily push damage, and he drops Angel of Condemnation. I'd like to use my Consign // Oblivion to nuke his hand (he missed his 5th land drop so he's obviously full of gas) but that means not using Dreamstealer... and if I eternalize he'll blink the token anyway.
I blink it to get in, he replays it, I Angler Drake to get in and buy more time, and force blocks. His plays tell me he's got Kindled Fury but he's afraid to block the Drake and get blown out. He ends up exerting to remove the Drake, so I make him discard knowing I've got one turn for me and he loses a Sparing Mummy, yay me. Torment of Scarabs ends the game because he's low life, no hand, so he'll end up too short on blockers or having to sac the angel.

Game 2 he's got Unconventional Tactics in starting hand, races me, and despite nuking his hand a couple times to get rid of zombies he topdecks one and forced me to chump with Angler Drake, so I can't finish him off. He then topdecks Angel and pings me as I draw lands over the next couple of turns (Ifnir Deadlands shrank it).

Time is approaching for game 3, but I still want to make sure I can find my answers and bounce/kill stuff he casts Tactics on so he can't race me, so I go t4 Vizier, bin the Vizier of Many Faces, t5 embalm copying the Vizier, netting me a card and binning Dreamstealer, which he promptly exiles with Disposal Mummy (saving them after game 1). Torment of Venom gets me rid of the damn angel as soon as it shows up, Champion of Wits followed by eternalizing Sinuous Striker (bin a land, draw 2) lets me sculpt my hand (and nuke his with Oblivion), and casting Torment of Scarabs while he's low on life seals the deal as he knows he can't push through before it finishes him off.
2-0


Round 3 vs GW embalm
+ Show Spoiler +
He's the guy who complained about getting cut from W, but I don't think he'd have wanted any of these zombies anyway. He also says he's only won the previous game because he got lucky and his deck isn't that strong.
Obviously by the time he's lost the round he'll say his deck has a bunch of good shit that he never saw and that'd changed everything.

Game 1 Shadowstorm Vizier -> Ammit elicits a groan, and a I gain a bunch of life after bouncing his Solitary Camel, only to regret it when he replays it and slaps a Cartouche of Solidarity on it. He seems to be content not attacking, groans again when I draw Torment of Venom and trades his Sharpshooters for the Ammit, but doesn't say much when I play Vizier of the Anointed. That's still my biggest play and eternalizing Champion of Wits finding myself flyers makes him scoop.

Game 2 I mull, keep a 2-lander and my 3rd land is the tapped desert so I can't play the Ammit that made me keep it. He groands again when it comes down, but still Sand Blasts it. He then plays Anointed Procession, "you want to play it slow? I'm fine with playing it slow" is the idea as I play Torment of Scarabs t5... and he just nods, looking satisfied. Uh, no groan this time?
During his upkeep he bins Honored Hydra. Oops.
I have Consign // Oblivion and the clone, so I'd rather play the latter, trade it, then embalm it and bounce his other token, but he just plays Ambuscade and I scoop because going from 18 to 7 and still facing at least 6 trampling power is a lot.

Game 3 Ammit in starting hand so I keep, but play another 3-drop to trade with his. He still groans when Ammit comes down, but has a removal for it. The heck, you kept saying it's the best card in my deck, my best start possible (when I sandbagged it on purpose), while also bragging that you have a bunch of removal I just haven't seen it. Then why do you complain about using your removal on my best cards?
He's stunned when I make him discard again since he just bins a Sunscourge Champion, and that's only then that I realise he may have a bunch more embalm creatures than I initially thought. Still not as bad, I played the Vizier of the Anointed so I eternalize Sinuous Striker to have a blocker (Champion of Wits in hand, no 6th land for Dreamstealer and I wanna attack with it).
He drops Sifter Wurm, reveals Sharshooters and now sits at 28 life but still grumbling... well at least I'll give him reasons to do so and embalm the clone for it, with an interesting choice: Dreamstealer or Consign // Oblivion? 7 life is a lot but I'd rather hide my trick shot so I put it below Dreamstealer. When I shrink the Wurm with Ifnir Deadlands to bait a double block (so I can bounce the token, kill the Wurm and keep my 7/7 trample) he kills the clone with Ambuscade. Back to the card advantage plan.
A couple turns later, he plays Pride Sovereign—and Anointed Procession definitely feels justified with all these cards now— but obviously, I untap, bounce it, make him discard his 2 cards, don't say a word while he's ranting about my deck and complains that he doesn't draw his answers.
At that point I'm actually a bit low in cards and he's very high in life. I drop Shimmerscale Drake and Dreamstealer then start beating, using Sinuous Striker's ability to trade with the Wurm and making him discard. Embalming Tah-Crop Skirmisher finds me Angler Drake and he scoops since my board is overwhelming enough that I won't deck out.
3-0


During my first draft, I thought t4 Vizier of the Anointed -> bin Sinuous Striker -> cycle a card and get a 4/4 next turn was sweet.
Oh boy was I innocent back then.
It's still the best play tempo-wise probably, but getting to t4 Vizier of the Anointed -> t5 embalm Vizier of Many Faces for a draw and another tutor -> t6 embalm whatever to draw 2 cards on top of it is both so greedy and so satisfying, maaaan. Too bad eternalizing Champion of Wits costs 7.

I was a bit light on removal and unsure how it'd shake out, and indeed playing aggression was hard for me and facing the RW deck with a low curve, 2x Desert's Hold and some elusive exerters would have been a different story entirely.
This is what I play magic for, anyway. All of the synergies, the small combos, the satisfaction of making the pieces click together, and the payoffs for doing so. I'll take absolutely no credit for my absurd deck as it fell into my lap but that didn't make it any less satisfying to play. It was super mana-hungry so I actually had to think ahead about how to sequence my plays, when to bounce or setup an Oblivion based on knowlede of opponent deck, missed land drops and amount of cards in hand, etc.

Dreamstealer didn't really do much aside from making my r2 opponent freak out and push a couple points of damage in the last game. On the other hand I always had something to do with the deck so I didn't mind holding it till I could actually make it survive the obvious double block.
Vizier of the Anointed confirmed first pickable bomb, but you guys already knew that.
Torment of Scarabs only really did things because I could nuke my opponent's hand and had a couple flyers or a pseudo-race going on turns 2-3 to lower their life total, against anything remotely aggressive/pro-active than I can't stall the board against (hi 2/X zombies) it'd have been a sideboard candidate.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-29 02:47:33
July 29 2017 02:46 GMT
#34188
Your deck isn't remotely aggressive enough for maindeck Torment of Scarabs to be correct. The card's only really good in a deck aggressive enough to put the opponent low enough that that "lose 3 life" stops being an option. I'm also not convinced you have the right mix of 2-drops between maindeck/sideboard given the more controlling slant of your deck.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 29 2017 03:31 GMT
#34189
I moved them around between games, with more deserts I'd def have shoved the camel in just to act as some more card advantage. The Miasmic Mummy played that role for me (while having better stats) and did decently, since I had so many aftermath/eternalize cards to dump.
Shadowstorm Vizier was clearly there for the stat line and flying and not to beat down, even if it did a bit.

Seeker of Insight was one of the first cuts just because I didn't have that many non-creature spells to cast, I got pointed out that Consign // Oblivion both count for 2, but Torment of Scarabs should be shoved asap and Supreme Will held as long as possible, so I felt like I had constraints on my spells on top of their number.
In the end except when I mulliganed and kept a 2-lander, my deck was so mana hungry that even hitting my land drops on time, I had more than enough choice (obviously "always loot" but I didn't feel like I needed it compared to a better statline/way to shrink my opponent's hand).

I wanted to test Torment of Scarabs even knowing it wasn't the best deck for it so I wouldn't have cut it. The "make your opponent hellbent" plan helped a bit in justifying it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 29 2017 03:46 GMT
#34190
Seeker of Insight is still better than Spellweaver Eternal in your deck. Spellweaver Eternal is a good card but its an aggressive card, and your deck isn't really aggressive at all.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
July 29 2017 04:25 GMT
#34191
On July 29 2017 09:48 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 08:19 phyvo wrote:
Hey, I had to fax something to the government just yesterday. But evidently that tech is so old it's accidentally more secure than emailing PDFs.


the only other place I can think fax's are important is college football recruiting. It's caused some hilarious problems over the years


A lot of health care stuff is still done on fax. We keep almost everything stored in PDF form somewhere but it will eventually get printed out and faxed.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 29 2017 06:37 GMT
#34192
On July 29 2017 13:25 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 09:48 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On July 29 2017 08:19 phyvo wrote:
Hey, I had to fax something to the government just yesterday. But evidently that tech is so old it's accidentally more secure than emailing PDFs.


the only other place I can think fax's are important is college football recruiting. It's caused some hilarious problems over the years


A lot of health care stuff is still done on fax. We keep almost everything stored in PDF form somewhere but it will eventually get printed out and faxed.

Every referral or letter I write gets faxed.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
July 29 2017 08:07 GMT
#34193
On July 29 2017 08:20 Duvon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 07:26 iCanada wrote:
I'll never understand old peoples obsession with printing and scanning things....

Like come on we have print to pdf now.... please make intelligent workable data. Zzz...

Not even in the light of recent major virus outbreaks?
Hmm I wonder what the cost/benefit cost check would say about it.


Lol. Most of these people don't even understand what viruses are, think you only get them by playing games.

I've recieved 500 page RFP packages that were basically faxed PDF's with no intelligent data whatsoever. Like what are we, fucking animals? Your document is longer than 2 pages that shit should be searchable. I shouldn't have to hand type half these damn specs out to use them; you clearly already typed that shit... Even worse is that these PDF files end up fucking massive 75 mB files that might have 6000 kB word documents on them.

I hate reading scanned PDF's with a passion that could fuel 1000 suns. It isn't even like it shard to print to PDF, its not even called "export to PDF" anymore, it is "print to PDF" and ON LITERALLY EVERY SOFTWARE ANYWHERE IT REQUIRES YOU MOVE YOUR MOUSE 3 PIXELS FROM THE PRINT BUTTON. Might be a bit of a pain to find a hotkey, but none of these people use hotkeys... most of them hunt and peck all day every day. It is remarkable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 29 2017 09:57 GMT
#34194
Law firms also use fax machines sometimes.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 29 2017 10:21 GMT
#34195
On July 29 2017 08:19 phyvo wrote:
Hey, I had to fax something to the government just yesterday. But evidently that tech is so old it's accidentally more secure than emailing PDFs.

Yeah if you wanna steal a fax you gotta splice into the line. which is a physical thing you gotta do. so it's a lot more secure. xD
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
July 29 2017 13:28 GMT
#34196
It's like how in the 90s we weren't supposed to write down our passwords but now (if you practice good password habits) you're expected to write down your passwords somewhere because no human brain can remember all that crap.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
July 29 2017 17:31 GMT
#34197
On July 29 2017 18:57 Holyflare wrote:
Law firms also use fax machines sometimes.

Isn't that something to do with faxes being more admissable/proveable in court than emails, or did cable tv lie to me again.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 29 2017 18:51 GMT
#34198
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 29 2017 22:28 phyvo wrote:
It's like how in the 90s we weren't supposed to write down our passwords but now (if you practice good password habits) you're expected to write down your passwords somewhere because no human brain can remember all that crap.


I thought good password habits now were to just put 2 factor authentication on your Gmail, remember one password, set it as recovery for everything, and then never remember anything else and do password recovery any time you use anything.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-29 18:57:32
July 29 2017 18:57 GMT
#34199
On July 30 2017 02:31 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2017 18:57 Holyflare wrote:
Law firms also use fax machines sometimes.

Isn't that something to do with faxes being more admissable/proveable in court than emails, or did cable tv lie to me again.

Depends on the country I guess. Email here is legally binding and I'm sure it is in most other countries too. Arguably even more secure and less prone to mistakes too.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
July 29 2017 19:46 GMT
#34200
On July 30 2017 03:57 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2017 02:31 killerdog wrote:
On July 29 2017 18:57 Holyflare wrote:
Law firms also use fax machines sometimes.

Isn't that something to do with faxes being more admissable/proveable in court than emails, or did cable tv lie to me again.

Depends on the country I guess. Email here is legally binding and I'm sure it is in most other countries too. Arguably even more secure and less prone to mistakes too.

Considering most legal firms probably have internal mail servers, its rather easily editable though.
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