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AsmodeusXI
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jcarlsoniv
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Also, add Xenocide to the Ender's game list. It's the third of the Speaker series, and it's quite good. Although I still maintain my "I really wish Orson Scott Card wasn't a douche" stance. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
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AsmodeusXI
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On September 19 2013 23:37 jcarlsoniv wrote: Yes Req, yes I would. If you put something together, count me in. Also, add Xenocide to the Ender's game list. It's the third of the Speaker series, and it's quite good. Although I still maintain my "I really wish Orson Scott Card wasn't a douche" stance. I was considering throwing in the "You could start reading Ender's Game, but maybe not since OSC is such a gargantuan asshole." 2 cents but thought that'd be better left to someone else. :/ Maybe not. BY THE WAY CARD IS A BAG OF DICKS. #dutydischarged That out of the way, I like all of the rest of the Ender saga. On September 19 2013 23:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Interesting opinion, Xenocide is usually considered the worst of the Ender Quartet, and I share that opinion =[ I'm a little surprised it's not Children of the Mind. :/ | ||
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Requizen
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1) Power levels are fucking insane for league as opposed to a traditional tabletop system, it's almost impossible to balance in the confines of, say, 3.5/4.0/Pathfinder. A blowgun dart does as much as a fireball which does more than a tidal wave which does damage and buffs and debuffs, sharks appearing out of the earth and doing more damage than a viking throwing an axe at your face... there's just no equivalent spells/equipment/fluff to justify the various abilities. 2) If you play traditional classes, it's hard to differentiate characters. Garen, Darius, J4, maybe Xin, Aatrox would all end up being Fighter/Warblade/whatever 3rd party book you can find, but in a campaign combat they wouldn't feel as different as they do in game. Mostly a fluff detail, but yeah. 3) Wizards are broken 4) My campaign would be mostly set in Valoran (as in, not the Rift), but I don't know if people would rather play Champions or random people that live in the world. My first idea is to have people playing hopeful Champions/Summoners on a quest to get recognized by the League, but idk if that's interesting enough. 5) I kind of suck at things so I would probably let all of you down >.> | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Wait what am I saying there's cho gath and he eats things. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Interesting opinion, Xenocide is usually considered the worst of the Ender Quartet, and I share that opinion =[ I agree, but I still enjoyed it. The transition from Ender's Game/Shadow to Speaker of the Dead was really weird for me. It felt like a completely different story even though I knew it was still completely connected. | ||
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Requizen
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: god i hope the movie doesnt suck... just assume it will suck ![[image loading]](http://gra.midco.net/5937/Random%20Images/yahtzee%20flowchart.jpg) But seriously, + Show Spoiler [spoilers?] + The trailer gave away a lot of the latter half of the book, and it seems they're focusing more on the "omg child soldiers!" than Ender being brilliant and a bit insane. Anyway, it can't butcher the book as bad as World War Z did. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: god i hope the movie doesnt suck... Whenever I think about it my whole body clenches. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:44 Requizen wrote: Well here are the issues that I've found. 1) Power levels are fucking insane for league as opposed to a traditional tabletop system, it's almost impossible to balance in the confines of, say, 3.5/4.0/Pathfinder. A blowgun dart does as much as a fireball which does more than a tidal wave which does damage and buffs and debuffs, sharks appearing out of the earth and doing more damage than a viking throwing an axe at your face... there's just no equivalent spells/equipment/fluff to justify the various abilities. 2) If you play traditional classes, it's hard to differentiate characters. Garen, Darius, J4, maybe Xin, Aatrox would all end up being Fighter/Warblade/whatever 3rd party book you can find, but in a campaign combat they wouldn't feel as different as they do in game. Mostly a fluff detail, but yeah. 3) Wizards are broken 4) My campaign would be mostly set in Valoran (as in, not the Rift), but I don't know if people would rather play Champions or random people that live in the world. My first idea is to have people playing hopeful Champions/Summoners on a quest to get recognized by the League, but idk if that's interesting enough. 5) I kind of suck at things so I would probably let all of you down >.> I think #4 would be the most interesting way to go about it. It would be fun role playing our favorite champions, but it's MORE fun building your own identity (that's, IMO, the whole point of DnD). It would also probably be way easier for the DM from a design/balance perspective. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Interesting opinion, Xenocide is usually considered the worst of the Ender Quartet, and I share that opinion =[ I've avoided the issue by deciding I was only going to read Ender's Game and that's it haha. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:51 jcarlsoniv wrote: I think #4 would be the most interesting way to go about it. It would be fun role playing our favorite champions, but it's MORE fun building your own identity (that's, IMO, the whole point of DnD). It would also probably be way easier for the DM from a design/balance perspective. Well there's this system called Mutants and Masterminds, which is basically d20 Superheroes. You can make psychics, magicians, elementalists, tanks, strongmen, Iron Man armor ripoffs, etc. It's a bit iffy because a lot of the spells are the same, just with different fluff, and the combat is kinda strange (there's no HP you just have lethal/nonlethal damage and a shitton of saves wtf), but it would give more character customization from a fluff/lore perspective. But I'm most inundated with D&D 3.5 on, and always open to learning new stuff. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
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Alaric
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On September 19 2013 23:04 AsmodeusXI wrote: Holy shit the roll20 site is incredible. Also owb, I ALWAYS GET MY SHIT DONE ALREADY DON'T EVEN FRONT Edit: Interesting that I just bought a new webcam for streaming... WHO FROM TL.LOL WOULD WATCH TL.LOL ROLLPLAY huehuehuehue First campaign all LoL inspired, people pick Champions and roll stats based on them. So y u no stream? | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:56 Alaric wrote: Fuck you Req I'm not clicking down that spoiler chain. So y u no stream? I only just got the webcam. Will start streaming soon most likely.  Edit: And by "got" I mean "ordered and it's on the way. Thanks Newegg!" | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:54 Requizen wrote: Well there's this system called Mutants and Masterminds, which is basically d20 Superheroes. You can make psychics, magicians, elementalists, tanks, strongmen, Iron Man armor ripoffs, etc. It's a bit iffy because a lot of the spells are the same, just with different fluff, and the combat is kinda strange (there's no HP you just have lethal/nonlethal damage and a shitton of saves wtf), but it would give more character customization from a fluff/lore perspective. But I'm most inundated with D&D 3.5 on, and always open to learning new stuff. I've only ever played DnD Next (beta), so I'm not really sure about all the different systems out there. But I kind of like have HP and all that shit. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 19 2013 23:56 Alaric wrote: Fuck you Req I'm not clicking down that spoiler chain. So y u no stream? + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/Lh4fkfXXtr0/hqdefault.jpg) | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Scheduled a day off tomorrow and Monday cuz my brother-in-law's bachelor party is this weekend. Focus level is lower than roffles' MMR | ||
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