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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
December 21 2013 23:42 GMT
#16501
had like 5 truesilver champs in my deck earlier (have choice between priest, warrior and paladin decks, priest my main, warrior 2nd main and did well in arena in past, PICK PALADIN 2 OP)
was 6 wins in, lost 1 to a really bad start,and servers are bad so i lost to DC twice, once in a win game

weird form of RNG lol
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 21 2013 23:49 GMT
#16502
TBH that kind of "randomly getting screwed by a better deck" is also a problem of the format. Overall card quality of peoples' decks is far more normalized when everyone gets to toss the bottom 50% of the cards they picked as is the case with MtG's pick 42, use ~20 draft formats. You get more extreme variations in card quality when people have to play 100% of the cards they picked.

The other side of it is that a format that heavily emphasizes card quality over cohesive deck construction is bound to be subject to players getting lucky based on picking better cards. This IS true of Arena, and is a point that it emphasized by quite a few good players--in Arena, you are usually going to just pick the better card (Trump being the biggest proponent of this). When you don't, it's usually for mana curve considerations and very rarely for deck archetype considerations.

The MtG equivalent of this is a core set draft that has weak archetyping and is therefore usually considered to be a poor draft format. Again, it is understandable that the base card set will behave like this, and it's a problem that should solve itself when additional cards are added to the pool. But we have to at least worry a bit about the base format promoting this kind of safe, overly card quality-focused drafting.
yango pls
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
December 21 2013 23:52 GMT
#16503
ASKY is just abbreviating what MakNooN says to Shy. Shy says "If you like someone, try to confess your feelings to him/her". Then MakNooN gives him that ASKY paper, which is: (A)n (S)eng (K)yuh (Y)o = It's not going to show. MakNooN's basically saying "Yeah right, like you're going to get a girlfriend" and afterwards says "We gotta practice" implying they don't have time for girls. Shy's just like "fuk u"
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 22 2013 00:08 GMT
#16504
On December 22 2013 08:52 MCMilo wrote:
ASKY is just abbreviating what MakNooN says to Shy. Shy says "If you like someone, try to confess your feelings to him/her". Then MakNooN gives him that ASKY paper, which is: (A)n (S)eng (K)yuh (Y)o = It's not going to show. MakNooN's basically saying "Yeah right, like you're going to get a girlfriend" and afterwards says "We gotta practice" implying they don't have time for girls. Shy's just like "fuk u"

Priorities
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 22 2013 00:33 GMT
#16505
I'm bad at picking presents for people. Life is hard.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 00:39:12
December 22 2013 00:38 GMT
#16506
Girls: I spent 8 hours at the shops yesterday looking for a present (and didnt get anything or 1 thing)
Req: Day 1: should go shopping but ima play vidya games
....
Req: Day10: Should go shopping but ima play smite
Req: Xmas eve: Spend 5 mins with everything in the shops gone and i suck at it guys
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 22 2013 00:52 GMT
#16507
On December 22 2013 06:56 NotYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 02:09 Slayer91 wrote:
arena is totally fair, and if you grind daily quests you'll get a lot of cards from being good and playing arena
if you really are good you'll get lots of wins consistently in it and you'll still beat better decks consistently in constructed

Arena's fair, it's just boring as fuck after a few drafts, because by and large you're drafting so many of the same safe picks every time.

It's honestly the biggest barrier for me in HS. In order to earn enough cards to play with things better than Yetis in constructed, I have to play with Yetis for hours and hours in Arena.

Eh? Yeti are like the first card I kick out when I find a nice 4 drops to integrate in the deck.

Holy fuck Paladins have such good free class cards when you started with shit like Rogue and Warlock D: My curve is so weird compared to the rest, so many 4-drops. Probably my highest winrate on leveling with Mage and Warrior.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 22 2013 00:52 GMT
#16508
Soooo I "hacked" into my brother's old steam account. If I buy a game from there, or gift him a game from my account, will it send him an email? It says the email that is connected to it is unverified.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 22 2013 00:54 GMT
#16509
On December 22 2013 09:52 Alaric wrote:
Eh? Yeti are like the first card I kick out when I find a nice 4 drops to integrate in the deck.

I didn't mean Yeti in particular, I'm using the term to refer broadly to boring midrangy neutral commons that are both among the first cards you will use for constructed and are overly common picks in draft.

"Yetis" encompasses shit like SSC, Dark Iron Dwarf, Gnomish Inventor, etc.
yango pls
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 22 2013 01:07 GMT
#16510
On December 22 2013 09:52 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 06:56 NotYango wrote:
On December 22 2013 02:09 Slayer91 wrote:
arena is totally fair, and if you grind daily quests you'll get a lot of cards from being good and playing arena
if you really are good you'll get lots of wins consistently in it and you'll still beat better decks consistently in constructed

Arena's fair, it's just boring as fuck after a few drafts, because by and large you're drafting so many of the same safe picks every time.

It's honestly the biggest barrier for me in HS. In order to earn enough cards to play with things better than Yetis in constructed, I have to play with Yetis for hours and hours in Arena.

Eh? Yeti are like the first card I kick out when I find a nice 4 drops to integrate in the deck.

Holy fuck Paladins have such good free class cards when you started with shit like Rogue and Warlock D: My curve is so weird compared to the rest, so many 4-drops. Probably my highest winrate on leveling with Mage and Warrior.

Could be worse. Could be hunter. Literally the only worthwhile cards hunter has is the removal, weapons. and secrets.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 22 2013 01:13 GMT
#16511
On December 22 2013 09:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Girls: I spent 8 hours at the shops yesterday looking for a present (and didnt get anything or 1 thing)
Req: Day 1: should go shopping but ima play vidya games
....
Req: Day10: Should go shopping but ima play smite
Req: Xmas eve: Spend 5 mins with everything in the shops gone and i suck at it guys

But I'm laaaaaazy.

Actually I did well for everyone but my sister. She always gives a list but it's all like gift cards and DVDs, I feel like I should get her something nice instead of a bunch of stuff.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 22 2013 01:19 GMT
#16512
On December 22 2013 10:13 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 09:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Girls: I spent 8 hours at the shops yesterday looking for a present (and didnt get anything or 1 thing)
Req: Day 1: should go shopping but ima play vidya games
....
Req: Day10: Should go shopping but ima play smite
Req: Xmas eve: Spend 5 mins with everything in the shops gone and i suck at it guys

But I'm laaaaaazy.

Actually I did well for everyone but my sister. She always gives a list but it's all like gift cards and DVDs, I feel like I should get her something nice instead of a bunch of stuff.

If somebody gives you a list, you get something from the list.

I have a similar issue, from your sisters side. My parents ask me what I want all the time, and I don't really have an answer because they won't want to get those things, so I just say to give me money. Then they throw a fit that it's insulting to just give somebody money.

No, what's insulting is being asked what I want as a gift, then being told what I want is insulting for me to receive.

/rant
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
December 22 2013 01:22 GMT
#16513
On December 22 2013 09:52 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 06:56 NotYango wrote:
On December 22 2013 02:09 Slayer91 wrote:
arena is totally fair, and if you grind daily quests you'll get a lot of cards from being good and playing arena
if you really are good you'll get lots of wins consistently in it and you'll still beat better decks consistently in constructed

Arena's fair, it's just boring as fuck after a few drafts, because by and large you're drafting so many of the same safe picks every time.

It's honestly the biggest barrier for me in HS. In order to earn enough cards to play with things better than Yetis in constructed, I have to play with Yetis for hours and hours in Arena.

Eh? Yeti are like the first card I kick out when I find a nice 4 drops to integrate in the deck.

Holy fuck Paladins have such good free class cards when you started with shit like Rogue and Warlock D: My curve is so weird compared to the rest, so many 4-drops. Probably my highest winrate on leveling with Mage and Warrior.


yeti is stronk wtf
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 22 2013 01:24 GMT
#16514
On December 22 2013 10:19 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 10:13 Requizen wrote:
On December 22 2013 09:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Girls: I spent 8 hours at the shops yesterday looking for a present (and didnt get anything or 1 thing)
Req: Day 1: should go shopping but ima play vidya games
....
Req: Day10: Should go shopping but ima play smite
Req: Xmas eve: Spend 5 mins with everything in the shops gone and i suck at it guys

But I'm laaaaaazy.

Actually I did well for everyone but my sister. She always gives a list but it's all like gift cards and DVDs, I feel like I should get her something nice instead of a bunch of stuff.

If somebody gives you a list, you get something from the list.

I have a similar issue, from your sisters side. My parents ask me what I want all the time, and I don't really have an answer because they won't want to get those things, so I just say to give me money. Then they throw a fit that it's insulting to just give somebody money.

No, what's insulting is being asked what I want as a gift, then being told what I want is insulting for me to receive.

/rant

I got stuff off the list, but like for my parents I put a lot of thought into it and got something that I know will make them happy and surprise them, and for my sister it's like "hey here's a DVD and a Camelbak because they were on your list, not like you didn't know exactly what you were going to get".

Blah.
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 22 2013 01:37 GMT
#16515
On December 22 2013 10:24 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 10:19 Gahlo wrote:
On December 22 2013 10:13 Requizen wrote:
On December 22 2013 09:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Girls: I spent 8 hours at the shops yesterday looking for a present (and didnt get anything or 1 thing)
Req: Day 1: should go shopping but ima play vidya games
....
Req: Day10: Should go shopping but ima play smite
Req: Xmas eve: Spend 5 mins with everything in the shops gone and i suck at it guys

But I'm laaaaaazy.

Actually I did well for everyone but my sister. She always gives a list but it's all like gift cards and DVDs, I feel like I should get her something nice instead of a bunch of stuff.

If somebody gives you a list, you get something from the list.

I have a similar issue, from your sisters side. My parents ask me what I want all the time, and I don't really have an answer because they won't want to get those things, so I just say to give me money. Then they throw a fit that it's insulting to just give somebody money.

No, what's insulting is being asked what I want as a gift, then being told what I want is insulting for me to receive.

/rant

I got stuff off the list, but like for my parents I put a lot of thought into it and got something that I know will make them happy and surprise them, and for my sister it's like "hey here's a DVD and a Camelbak because they were on your list, not like you didn't know exactly what you were going to get".

Blah.

Next time go half and half then.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 01:49:44
December 22 2013 01:47 GMT
#16516
On December 22 2013 10:24 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 10:19 Gahlo wrote:
On December 22 2013 10:13 Requizen wrote:
On December 22 2013 09:38 Slayer91 wrote:
Girls: I spent 8 hours at the shops yesterday looking for a present (and didnt get anything or 1 thing)
Req: Day 1: should go shopping but ima play vidya games
....
Req: Day10: Should go shopping but ima play smite
Req: Xmas eve: Spend 5 mins with everything in the shops gone and i suck at it guys

But I'm laaaaaazy.

Actually I did well for everyone but my sister. She always gives a list but it's all like gift cards and DVDs, I feel like I should get her something nice instead of a bunch of stuff.

If somebody gives you a list, you get something from the list.

I have a similar issue, from your sisters side. My parents ask me what I want all the time, and I don't really have an answer because they won't want to get those things, so I just say to give me money. Then they throw a fit that it's insulting to just give somebody money.

No, what's insulting is being asked what I want as a gift, then being told what I want is insulting for me to receive.

/rant

I got stuff off the list, but like for my parents I put a lot of thought into it and got something that I know will make them happy and surprise them, and for my sister it's like "hey here's a DVD and a Camelbak because they were on your list, not like you didn't know exactly what you were going to get".

Blah.

One thing I got for my parents was a magnetic bottle opener that you stick on the fridge. Pretty OP for a Czech family. Also got my dad AoE2HD since we grew up playing that together and we haven't played a game together in like 5 years :/ I know the HD version isn't the best but w.e
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 22 2013 01:48 GMT
#16517
On December 22 2013 10:07 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2013 09:52 Alaric wrote:
On December 22 2013 06:56 NotYango wrote:
On December 22 2013 02:09 Slayer91 wrote:
arena is totally fair, and if you grind daily quests you'll get a lot of cards from being good and playing arena
if you really are good you'll get lots of wins consistently in it and you'll still beat better decks consistently in constructed

Arena's fair, it's just boring as fuck after a few drafts, because by and large you're drafting so many of the same safe picks every time.

It's honestly the biggest barrier for me in HS. In order to earn enough cards to play with things better than Yetis in constructed, I have to play with Yetis for hours and hours in Arena.

Eh? Yeti are like the first card I kick out when I find a nice 4 drops to integrate in the deck.

Holy fuck Paladins have such good free class cards when you started with shit like Rogue and Warlock D: My curve is so weird compared to the rest, so many 4-drops. Probably my highest winrate on leveling with Mage and Warrior.

Could be worse. Could be hunter. Literally the only worthwhile cards hunter has is the removal, weapons. and secrets.

I looked at the Hunter cards less than 10 minutes ago to level it. Started including Beasts... looked at the rest of the class cards... removed all of them.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 01:51:12
December 22 2013 01:50 GMT
#16518
hunter has pretty good removal spells at least
just run multi shot+deadly shot+the flame shot thing+a standard good neutral deck
would probably be as good as my priest deck lol

except steady shot<<<lesser heal for my priest deck i guess
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-22 02:30:16
December 22 2013 01:58 GMT
#16519
These secrets are so good wtf. o_o
Got to use all 4 of them in my first game, against a mage. I didn't think the "when your hero is attacked" one would be very useful, but they potentially made me win the game after I ate a Pyroblast to the face (mage with crafted/"pack'd" cards vs level 1 Hunter, welp).
Since I have a somewhat low mana curve and have learnt not to get baited into Flamestrike it makes it easy to fit some hero power shots in, too, helps a bunch to counteract his board clearing.

Secrets feel pretty satisfying to play too, since they're the only interaction you can have outside of your turn.

The sniping secret probably sucks versus Shaman or Paladin though.
Edit: nvm it doesn't get triggered by their hero powers.

A mage suicided trying to attack me. :3
(Well I had 14 HP and it was his last action with a 7-7, while he only had 2 HP left so I'd won either way, but it was fun seeing the secret finish the match.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
December 22 2013 02:09 GMT
#16520
Ysera being summoned into a Freezing Trap.

Awwww yisssss~
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
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