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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
November 08 2013 19:07 GMT
#10901
Okay, so I've finally decided to actually get into superhero stuff. Every time I've tried to in the past I'm just like "uh, some of these characters at a bajillionty years old and I don't know where to start."

tl;dr Where should I start for the current continuity for the major titles on the Marvel side?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 08 2013 19:08 GMT
#10902
On November 09 2013 02:59 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 02:33 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
So Cheep, what about the modern movies which aren't pewpew? Like The Grey?

Damn two in a row


dk what the grey is gg u

i dont really watch a lot of modern movies other than stuff like ender's game...

i used to do this more but not much time atm, i watch random hipster art films from random euros keke


No joke, you should all watch the shit out of this movie.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 19:12 GMT
#10903
Generally if you really really want to know backgrounds just use the Marvel Wiki or regular wikipedia, it's easier than finding ancient comics.

If you just want to get into them... go buy comics lol. Pretty much every time an arc is finished they release it as a full compilation, so find stories you think sound interesting and then buy those. For Marvel, Civil War is the one a lot of people enjoy starting with. You can get Civil War compilations, and then there's like Civil War: Captain America or Civil War: Iron Man or whatever you can read to see their side of the story.

Don't just like go buy the most recent volume of whatever, find a full story. If you like Iron Man, Demon in a Bottle is a bit dated but decent, Extremis is good and pretty recent. Hulk has the Planet Hulk and World War Hulk stories (though WWHulk is a Marvel-wide story). etc.
It's your boy Guzma!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
November 08 2013 19:14 GMT
#10904
On November 09 2013 04:05 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 02:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


i dont like old movies cause they're basically shitty watered down books

Well, a lot of them were like that, yeah, but there's no way it's even 50%. Comedies basically never, some like it hot or big business or modern times or safety last come to mind. Only high profile adaption I can think of is the philadelphia story and it's not even from a book.

Actually comedies today are much much more likely to be aping a novel because so many of them are basically just modernized jane austen.

It's when you get into the drama that adaptions (and if you saw a movie that was trying to be novelistic, it was an adaptation) start to clog up the works. Some of them turn out well like treasure of the sierra madre or gone with the wind or the big sleep, but for every one of those there's some bullshit like the hustler. So I can buy that argument, sorta-ish, except it's easy to display the tiniest shred of selectively instead of just selecting movies at random, so the relative proportion of shit to money is not that significant.


well i dont really watch comedies so those are out

i confess i have no desire to read or watch gone with the wind the story seems so boring to me lol orz same with the big sleep

for me, books and movies and anime and manga are just about the story, and i think im after a different sort of story when im reading compared to when im watching a movie

like i'd never watch a movie adaptation of anna karenina or crime and punishment cause it'd just feel super boring lol

and the kinds of stories that dominated "older" films all feel boring to me

i'd much rather watch inception than read a book version of inception (god that'd be awful); similar i'd rather read a lot of books than watch a movie adaptation...
TranslatorBaa!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 19:15 GMT
#10905
On November 09 2013 04:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:05 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 09 2013 02:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


i dont like old movies cause they're basically shitty watered down books

Well, a lot of them were like that, yeah, but there's no way it's even 50%. Comedies basically never, some like it hot or big business or modern times or safety last come to mind. Only high profile adaption I can think of is the philadelphia story and it's not even from a book.

Actually comedies today are much much more likely to be aping a novel because so many of them are basically just modernized jane austen.

It's when you get into the drama that adaptions (and if you saw a movie that was trying to be novelistic, it was an adaptation) start to clog up the works. Some of them turn out well like treasure of the sierra madre or gone with the wind or the big sleep, but for every one of those there's some bullshit like the hustler. So I can buy that argument, sorta-ish, except it's easy to display the tiniest shred of selectively instead of just selecting movies at random, so the relative proportion of shit to money is not that significant.


well i dont really watch comedies so those are out

i confess i have no desire to read or watch gone with the wind the story seems so boring to me lol orz same with the big sleep

for me, books and movies and anime and manga are just about the story, and i think im after a different sort of story when im reading compared to when im watching a movie

like i'd never watch a movie adaptation of anna karenina or crime and punishment cause it'd just feel super boring lol

and the kinds of stories that dominated "older" films all feel boring to me

i'd much rather watch inception than read a book version of inception (god that'd be awful); similar i'd rather read a lot of books than watch a movie adaptation...

So you want stories from books and just blockbusters from movies? That's cool, I can respect that, but that's not really a reason to call movies trash just because it's outside your wheelhouse.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 19:17:58
November 08 2013 19:17 GMT
#10906
On November 09 2013 04:07 Gahlo wrote:
Okay, so I've finally decided to actually get into superhero stuff. Every time I've tried to in the past I'm just like "uh, some of these characters at a bajillionty years old and I don't know where to start."

tl;dr Where should I start for the current continuity for the major titles on the Marvel side?

The most important things you need to keep track of superheros for the movies.
Super powers (limitation of powers can change based on publication, for example superman used to not have the ability to fly, just had super jumping abilities), origin story (may differ slightly depending on publication), general demeanor/attitude, beliefs, and that's pretty much it.
Plot/story are usually just reflection of the era it was written in.
On November 09 2013 04:15 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 09 2013 04:05 UniversalSnip wrote:
On November 09 2013 02:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


i dont like old movies cause they're basically shitty watered down books

Well, a lot of them were like that, yeah, but there's no way it's even 50%. Comedies basically never, some like it hot or big business or modern times or safety last come to mind. Only high profile adaption I can think of is the philadelphia story and it's not even from a book.

Actually comedies today are much much more likely to be aping a novel because so many of them are basically just modernized jane austen.

It's when you get into the drama that adaptions (and if you saw a movie that was trying to be novelistic, it was an adaptation) start to clog up the works. Some of them turn out well like treasure of the sierra madre or gone with the wind or the big sleep, but for every one of those there's some bullshit like the hustler. So I can buy that argument, sorta-ish, except it's easy to display the tiniest shred of selectively instead of just selecting movies at random, so the relative proportion of shit to money is not that significant.


well i dont really watch comedies so those are out

i confess i have no desire to read or watch gone with the wind the story seems so boring to me lol orz same with the big sleep

for me, books and movies and anime and manga are just about the story, and i think im after a different sort of story when im reading compared to when im watching a movie

like i'd never watch a movie adaptation of anna karenina or crime and punishment cause it'd just feel super boring lol

and the kinds of stories that dominated "older" films all feel boring to me

i'd much rather watch inception than read a book version of inception (god that'd be awful); similar i'd rather read a lot of books than watch a movie adaptation...

So you want stories from books and just blockbusters from movies? That's cool, I can respect that, but that's not really a reason to call movies trash just because it's outside your wheelhouse.

Depends. Batman movies were good movies, but I wouldn't say they're good "Batman" movies.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 19:22 GMT
#10907
Well yes, of course there are good movies and bad movies, but that's not what Cheep was getting at before.



Side topic: Blizzcon has started. New WoW expansion confirmed, Heroes of the Storm (Blizz Dota) cinematic so far. Watching live blogs is so fun~
It's your boy Guzma!
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
November 08 2013 19:24 GMT
#10908
I dislike comedy movies too
I used to kinda like them but then I discovered standups. Offering me to watch a comedy movie is like offering mildly sweetened water to a heroine addict.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
November 08 2013 19:24 GMT
#10909
Anyone going to blizzcon / at blizzcon?
Jaedong :3
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 08 2013 19:25 GMT
#10910
On November 09 2013 04:22 Requizen wrote:
Well yes, of course there are good movies and bad movies, but that's not what Cheep was getting at before.



Side topic: Blizzcon has started. New WoW expansion confirmed, Heroes of the Storm (Blizz Dota) cinematic so far. Watching live blogs is so fun~


Cinematic was awesome, alpha teaser looked solid(color wise it looked very WC3'ish on the SC2 engine, so excited).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 19:26 GMT
#10911
On November 09 2013 04:24 Scip wrote:
I dislike comedy movies too
I used to kinda like them but then I discovered standups. Offering me to watch a comedy movie is like offering mildly sweetened water to a heroine addict.

Depends on what you like imo. Standups obviously superior for jokes, but they obviously can't really do situational comedy or slapstick (outside of a few performers, but then it's really more of a show than just a standup).

On November 09 2013 04:25 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:22 Requizen wrote:
Well yes, of course there are good movies and bad movies, but that's not what Cheep was getting at before.



Side topic: Blizzcon has started. New WoW expansion confirmed, Heroes of the Storm (Blizz Dota) cinematic so far. Watching live blogs is so fun~


Cinematic was awesome, alpha teaser looked solid(color wise it looked very WC3'ish on the SC2 engine, so excited).

You there or just got DirecTV?
It's your boy Guzma!
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 08 2013 19:27 GMT
#10912
On November 09 2013 04:26 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:24 Scip wrote:
I dislike comedy movies too
I used to kinda like them but then I discovered standups. Offering me to watch a comedy movie is like offering mildly sweetened water to a heroine addict.

Depends on what you like imo. Standups obviously superior for jokes, but they obviously can't really do situational comedy or slapstick (outside of a few performers, but then it's really more of a show than just a standup).

Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 04:25 red_ wrote:
On November 09 2013 04:22 Requizen wrote:
Well yes, of course there are good movies and bad movies, but that's not what Cheep was getting at before.



Side topic: Blizzcon has started. New WoW expansion confirmed, Heroes of the Storm (Blizz Dota) cinematic so far. Watching live blogs is so fun~


Cinematic was awesome, alpha teaser looked solid(color wise it looked very WC3'ish on the SC2 engine, so excited).

You there or just got DirecTV?


They're showing the keynote on the WCS stream for SC2.

Battle.net just exploded because they announced beta signups for Heroes going live today(they're not up just yet, don't contribute to the explosion).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 19:29 GMT
#10913
Woop opened stream and yes please.

inc open beta for Hearthstone
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 19:30:53
November 08 2013 19:30 GMT
#10914
fking Heroes of the Storm looks hilarious amusing.

LOL DAT BLIZZCON CARD
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 08 2013 19:32 GMT
#10915
I'm always annoyed when new games that I might want to play are announced because I know I either won't have time to play them, or I won't have the drive to break free of the games I'm comfortable playing.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 19:34:40
November 08 2013 19:32 GMT
#10916
On November 09 2013 04:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm always annoyed when new games that I might want to play are announced because I know I either won't have time to play them, or I won't have the drive to break free of the games I'm comfortable playing.


Dat father tax

Ranked constructed yes plz~


EDIT PHONE HEARTHSTONE YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Blizzard knows how to put on a fucking show, Jesus
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 08 2013 19:34 GMT
#10917
hearthstone on ios and android, yes. but 2nd half of 2014
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 08 2013 19:34 GMT
#10918
iPhone HS gg life
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 19:37:21
November 08 2013 19:36 GMT
#10919
On November 09 2013 04:34 AsmodeusXI wrote:
iPhone HS gg life

Work bathroom breaks = ranked games

I'm tentatively hyped for a Warcraft movie. Tentatively.

Oh my gosh I love this presentation
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 08 2013 19:37 GMT
#10920
All this nostalgia.
liftlift > tsm
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