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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 08 2013 15:46 GMT
#10861
I liked Ender's Game


I guess that's because coming in I expected absolutely no redeeming qualities. Just goes to show something about life.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#10862
On November 09 2013 00:44 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
the david lynch dune movie was an unmitigated the disaster, but the 6 episode miniseries adaptation of dune + dune messiah + children of dune was, in my opinion, actually pretty good.

like you dont even need some huge series, a solid 3 hours per book is enough (stick another hour if it's a huge book like dune), instead hollywood gives us barely 100 minutes ~_~

i agree req, as i said in my post, a 2 movie setup would've probably been perfect.

when lord of the rings adaptations came out i was really happy cause i thought it might herald an era of good book to movie adaptatations, but the past few years have dashed those hopes qq

At least we get Marvel making pgud comic movies, so the era of the nerd isn't all lost.

I'm also of the opinion that the Star Trek films are good. They're just... it's blockbuster with Star Trek wrap, not an adaptation of the series and if you can look past that then it's really easy to have a good time despite the not-spectacular writing.

The Harry Potter movies were also pretty good, though they did have to end up skipping a handful of details (if I remember right, I didn't read any book past 5 and that was a long time ago).
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 15:51 GMT
#10863
On November 09 2013 00:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I liked Ender's Game


I guess that's because coming in I expected absolutely no redeeming qualities. Just goes to show something about life.

I didn't hate it. I was critical because it's one of the formative books of my childhood and (especially when taken alongside SftD) is one of my favorite books of all time, so I had to nitpick and I couldn't just shut out the inner fanboy. It was beautifully shot, the CGI was phenominal, the actors did a decent job (hard with a mixed bag of child actors), and it got through the story well enough. I had a good enough time.
It's your boy Guzma!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 08 2013 15:54 GMT
#10864
i like th estar trek movies, they're not trying to be somethign they're not which makes them much better

i never read comics and i dont really like superhero movies so they're kinda meh for me

thought the harry potter movies were good, thats what happens when you get money and time to do w\e you want though zz i wish ender's game got that sort of leeway
TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 08 2013 16:03 GMT
#10865
Eh, I guess it's because of the public: when you said "bite-sized chunk" it was spot on, people want to have a sense of closure after watching "the" movie", rather than a movie and have to come back next year to get the full story. Especially when you tell them "experiment the best-seller on full screen!", people who didn't read it may perceive it as the opportunity to experience it now, as it is offered to them, than as a announcement of "you will get to experience it in the near-future".

French publishers already split English and American books in several parts, Royal Assassin from Robin Hobb went from 3 to 13 books zzz (unsurprisingly I imported them). Honor Harrington books are also split in 2 after they start passing 600 pages, even when it's not the pocket edition.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 08 2013 16:09 GMT
#10866
On November 09 2013 00:20 Alaric wrote:
LotR isn't that hard to read tbh, it's mostly the first part (the lengthy and detailed description of the Shire that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the plot) that makes people give up because its like throwing an obstacle at thm before they even start racing.
The wording of the story itself isn't too "heavy" (you can look into Zola and Flaubert novels for how you can abuse the shit out of our language to kill brain cells and breed boredom), at least compared to the original version. It tends to be very straight-forward during dialogues and action scenes actually (the way dialogues are written tended to remind me of the very simplified language used in the Bible I had younger).


^ I resort to cursing in English in some situations where I find equivalents sound sharper than in French. Prob. wouldn't if TL wasn't one my most frequented sites though, makes me practice English a bunch. Pretty much only do it when I'm alone to (so there's ironically noone to hear the difference; I guess it's to vent out better then >>).
"Fucking" has that "spit out" thing and you can just slap it anywhere so it's way easier to use. In French you'd use something like "saleté/saloperie de" (longer) or "foutu" (not that sharp of a sound) so you can't really use direct equivalents. "Son of a bitch" is more insulting in French than in English too.

When French people whine or rage in soloQ most of the time it's a combo of stfu, you're trash/shit/a piece of shit with insults like noob or fag, or whining with "normal" sentences punctuated by random "bitch" or "fag" intersped here and there. They aren't very creative.
(In case you're wondering, I rage in English with long-winded sentences explaining what's going wrong and why, calling out people without cursing at them, because I've got a niche to fill.)

He's drunk, but he can pretend it's both if he wants to lessen the blow.

it's not hard to read it's just very slow. I read it a couple times in middle school but went back to it a couple years ago and couldn't make it through, just so plodding, especially in the beginning.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 16:49:59
November 08 2013 16:48 GMT
#10867
My guess is the same thing has happened to books which I've seen happen to movies and media in general. Namely, they've sped up over the years to accommodate changing tastes coming from the cultural influence of technology.

I mean, I like Tolkein and taking things slow and even I sometimes find myself skimming all the articles I'm reading rather than actually reading them start to finish.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 16:53 GMT
#10868
Writing is a lot more varied though, I think. You still get ponderous stories in books, while it's few and far between that you get a movie that takes its time telling a story.

I like to go back and watch older movies and see how long and different they are. Anime movies are also really like this, probably one of the reasons I like to watch them. Trust and Betrayal, the original Ghost in the Shell, Ghibli flicks - they take their time and stop to smell the roses, so to speak.

I just feel like a lot of modern movies are all about "tell the story quickly so we can get from A to B and show off our cool SFX and action scenes!". I'm not the biggest fan.
It's your boy Guzma!
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 08 2013 17:02 GMT
#10869
On November 09 2013 01:53 Requizen wrote:
Writing is a lot more varied though, I think. You still get ponderous stories in books, while it's few and far between that you get a movie that takes its time telling a story.

I like to go back and watch older movies and see how long and different they are. Anime movies are also really like this, probably one of the reasons I like to watch them. Trust and Betrayal, the original Ghost in the Shell, Ghibli flicks - they take their time and stop to smell the roses, so to speak.

I just feel like a lot of modern movies are all about "tell the story quickly so we can get from A to B and show off our cool SFX and action scenes!". I'm not the biggest fan.


Blockbusters have always been that way, at least since the idea of a blockbuster has existed. Even other mediums have had their 'blockbuster' style works, like plays that were specifically written to be understood by masses of poor and uneducated people to sellout massive theaters and drive ticket sales(sound familiar?) as opposed to high art.

If you should be mad about it it's because Hollywood is taking novels that probably shouldn't be blockbusters and fitting them to that style.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
November 08 2013 17:06 GMT
#10870
I like the tension in old westerns caused by nothing happening on screen for a significant amount of time.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 17:08:14
November 08 2013 17:07 GMT
#10871
i hate old movies they're mostly super boring lol

ghibli movies are trash

ghost in the shell was hour and a half of nothing happening and watching shitty anime matrix
TranslatorBaa!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 17:11 GMT
#10872
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.
It's your boy Guzma!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 17:12:47
November 08 2013 17:12 GMT
#10873
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


i dont like old movies cause they're basically shitty watered down books

new movies have no pretensions of the sort and are therefore more enjoyable

boom boom explosions pew pew lasers #1

i like the seventh seal though that's like one of my favorite movies of all time
TranslatorBaa!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 08 2013 17:13 GMT
#10874
On November 09 2013 00:40 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I'm that guy. I skip over description paragraphs when they start to run too long, and I don't look back. I'd never do it for Tolkien tho :F

<3

+ Show Spoiler +
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 08 2013 17:16 GMT
#10875
On November 09 2013 02:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i hate old movies they're mostly super boring lol

ghibli movies are trash

ghost in the shell was hour and a half of nothing happening and watching shitty anime matrix

fine old movies, fine boring anime, but how you gonna hate on ghibli movies like that tho
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
November 08 2013 17:16 GMT
#10876
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


If I go to watch a movie for explosions I will indeed be disappointed by the lack of explosions. For example, I intend on going to see Thor this weekend, and while I'd like for there to be SOME semblance of a story related to the comics, I more just want to see the God of Thunder and his demigod brother kick some ass and save the world in glorious fashion from a fantastically powerful villain who does unbelievable stuff. I want to see Natalie Portman's ass, and the woman I go with will want to see Chris Hemsworth's bare chest, and we'll both probably be very entertained.

I see nothing uncultured about being able to relax and enjoy something made for relaxation and enjoyment. When I want high art I seek out high art, blockbusters are not where you should go to find it.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 08 2013 17:18 GMT
#10877
On November 09 2013 02:16 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


If I go to watch a movie for explosions I will indeed be disappointed by the lack of explosions. For example, I intend on going to see Thor this weekend, and while I'd like for there to be SOME semblance of a story related to the comics, I more just want to see the God of Thunder and his demigod brother kick some ass and save the world in glorious fashion from a fantastically powerful villain who does unbelievable stuff. I want to see Natalie Portman's ass, and the woman I go with will want to see Chris Hemsworth's bare chest, and we'll both probably be very entertained.

I see nothing uncultured about being able to relax and enjoy something made for relaxation and enjoyment. When I want high art I seek out high art, blockbusters are not where you should go to find it.

Well yeah, different forms of entertainment are different. Just like Cheep is different from cool people.


Anything special going to happen at Blizzcon you think? We shouldn't be expecting LotV news yet, should we?
It's your boy Guzma!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 08 2013 17:19 GMT
#10878
On November 09 2013 02:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


i dont like old movies cause they're basically shitty watered down books

Dr. Strangelove says MEIN FURHER, I CAN WALK.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
November 08 2013 17:24 GMT
#10879
On November 09 2013 02:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 02:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


i dont like old movies cause they're basically shitty watered down books

Dr. Strangelove says MEIN FURHER, I CAN WALK.


unsurprisingly, dr strangelove is another one of my favorite movies lol
TranslatorBaa!
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 08 2013 17:32 GMT
#10880
On November 09 2013 02:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 02:19 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 09 2013 02:12 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On November 09 2013 02:11 Requizen wrote:
Cheep please, I like to have this image of you where you're a cultured intellectual. Now I can only picture you as the dude in the movie theater looking at his phone sighing loudly when 15 minutes have passed without an explosion.

Go back to books you're not wanted here.


i dont like old movies cause they're basically shitty watered down books

Dr. Strangelove says MEIN FURHER, I CAN WALK.


unsurprisingly, dr strangelove is another one of my favorite movies lol

Well obviously. If you didn't, I'd have to think you were a commie out to sap and impurify our bodily fluids.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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