Off-Topic General Discussion - Page 4684

On April 02 2015 04:58 Frudgey wrote:
I'm not entirely sure if there has been a revolution in the gaming industry.

On April 02 2015 05:03 red_ wrote:


Wait, you're arguing that George Lucas REVOLUTIONIZED cinema with Star Wars, but you are at the same time wanting to argue that there has not been a revolution in the gaming industry ever?

This is why I said earlier: this can't be a discussion(if you hold a view like this).

On April 02 2015 05:03 red_ wrote:


Wait, you're arguing that George Lucas REVOLUTIONIZED cinema with Star Wars, but you are at the same time wanting to argue that there has not been a revolution in the gaming industry ever?

This is why I said earlier: this can't be a discussion(if you hold a view like this).

On April 02 2015 01:33 Requizen wrote:
Otter wants to apply to the company I work at. Different departments and probably even different floors, so there should be no issue there. I don't think it would be awkward, but is it? I don't really hear about couples that both join the same company separately that often, unlike couples that meet through work. Is it strange?

On April 02 2015 05:05 MoonBear wrote:

Not really?

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 02 2015 04:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Star Trek (2009) is one of my favorite movies.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 02 2015 05:05 Numy wrote:


Who said he revolutionized cinema with Star Wars? I've been talking about ILM not Star Wars. Did Frudgey mention Star Wars?

On April 02 2015 05:08 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
My god MoonBear lol...



Is that like culture Apples to Apples/CAH/etc.? o.O

On April 02 2015 04:40 Frudgey wrote:

I see your point. Basically what I said is that "Oh Blizzard didn't create MOBAs they only gave the community the tools to do so", but then I go around and say "Oh Dune 2 was revolutionary" when you are saying that basically the same thing happened.

I think what I wanted to get across was that when Dune 2 came out, it was essentially the first RTS. You have a team of people who created a game, which was the first RTS. Yes they paved the way for others, and in a sense they only gave others the tools to do so, while they didn't contribute anything themselves. However, I believe that they did contribute something to the RTS - namely, they created the first one!

Where for Warcraft 3, Warcraft 3 was not a MOBA. Instead, people outside of the Warcraft 3 production team used their map editor to create the first MOBA. Granted, it wouldn't have been possible to for them to do so if Blizzard never made the map editor. In a way, Blizzard did help create the first MOBA. However, I maintain that they only gave the tools - the community created the first MOBA. Dune 2 didn't just give the tools - I also think that they created the first RTS. And at the time no one had seen anything like it! But compared to today's standards, yeah Dune 2 didn't age well!

I don't know if my distinction makes sense, or even if I made my point clear. And I concede that my point is possibly contradictory, as I don't know if that distinction that I attempted to make is even significant enough. Hope I cleared up the point that I was trying to make though.

On April 02 2015 05:10 red_ wrote:


Ok, put ILM in place of Star Wars, the point is still ridiculous if it is indeed your stance. Frudgey has clarified that he doesn't ILM to have been revolutionary to movies either though(which I would also dispute), but it is a far more coherent stance.

On April 02 2015 05:14 Zess wrote:

Looks baahwring

On April 02 2015 05:14 Numy wrote:


Well yea it's silly to say there's been no gaming revolutions but I don't really see why you say ILM wasn't revolutionary to movies unless what you said means you dispute Frudgey's point? Even on the small scale without ILM there may never have been Pixar which falls in your earlier point surely. In fact looks like ILM "invented" CGI use. Idk how you can get more revolutionary than that.