EPTOn March 29 2015 06:36 MoonBear wrote:
On the issue of business relationships I don't see the moderators and Riot having one? It seems to just be a convenient way to talk to each other, and the NDA gives Riot comfort that anything they say won't be used inappropriately. (Like, say a mod selling information or giving it to a competitor company or whatever.)
And for journalists I mean not really? A lot of journalists write in-depth about issues but they're not experts in their field. So they go find someone who is. Or maybe they approach the company or employees directly. And these people are happy to help, but for whatever reason they're not comfortable with having their name and the fact they talked disclosed. This could be for totally innocent and valid reasons. For example, maybe you're a Community Credit Union and you're happy to talk about how ELA requests to the central bank work, but you know what if you're disclosed as the source of information then weird angry people on the internet will spam your company with death threats and honestly it's not worth your time and effort dealing with them. NDAs like that aren't as rare as you think they might be.
On the issue of business relationships I don't see the moderators and Riot having one? It seems to just be a convenient way to talk to each other, and the NDA gives Riot comfort that anything they say won't be used inappropriately. (Like, say a mod selling information or giving it to a competitor company or whatever.)
And for journalists I mean not really? A lot of journalists write in-depth about issues but they're not experts in their field. So they go find someone who is. Or maybe they approach the company or employees directly. And these people are happy to help, but for whatever reason they're not comfortable with having their name and the fact they talked disclosed. This could be for totally innocent and valid reasons. For example, maybe you're a Community Credit Union and you're happy to talk about how ELA requests to the central bank work, but you know what if you're disclosed as the source of information then weird angry people on the internet will spam your company with death threats and honestly it's not worth your time and effort dealing with them. NDAs like that aren't as rare as you think they might be.
I don't think its a strict business relationship in the sense that money is exchanging hands, but information is, in a manner that has no source to protect. it's an entity of "Riot" giving the information. not an individual. It's not dissimilar to a source, but it's not the same either.
Riot isn't asking not to be disclosed as the source for information, like an individual would, riot is asking for the mod's to be complicit with what riot wants to be released and what they do not want to be released. and the expectation of that can interfere with the impartiality of what a moderator of a media site should be. It's not outright unethical. but it gives the appearance of it, and at the level of importance reddit is to the league scene, they should be held to higher standards than as moderators trying to keep the peace as they really become gatekeepers of what media is allowed in the community when it comes to league of legends.
EDIT: an example of this would be if a company gave exclusive information to a specific Journalist, citing when announcements would be and what would be announced, with an NDA citing that the journalist couldn't mention the information existing. The journalist is a freelancer, and books his flight early for the location of the announcement (a press conference/E3/Whatever), arrives early, is first in line to interview a representative of the company about the announcement and uploads his article that was written with advanced knowledge within seconds of the announcement, with no disclosure of the relationship between that company and the journalist.
that goes further than a source that asks not to be published, which should be kept secret. it's a relationship that benefits both the company (by coloring the reception of said announcement by the journalist, in a favorable manner, intentionally or not), and the journalist. outside of that of an anonymous source, which wouldn't have colored the article in the same manner, the journalist would be beholden to that individual, rather than a corporate entity.
While reddit mods are not journalists, they occupy a similar space as editors do for league of legends, controlling which content is put through with what language is acceptable or whatever.
It's one thing to do what you can to protect your sources, its another when you are getting extra information officially from an entity in order to write about that entity. When your source is your subject things get a little fuzzy, which is why journalists will recuse themselves from such topics, but its not like a league of legends reddit mod can do so. unless they delegate the jobs where certain mods are only allowed to remove duplicate posts with no quality concerns, purely basing their judgement on time posts, and they can be in with riot, while the quality judgement come from less biased mods.
On March 29 2015 06:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So you still don't know what an NDA is.
So you still don't know what an NDA is.
LOL never change Cheep.
Maybe I'll record it on twitch while watching it, it was a bloodbath.
