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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-28 22:12:59
March 28 2015 21:44 GMT
#93141
On March 29 2015 06:36 MoonBear wrote:

On the issue of business relationships I don't see the moderators and Riot having one? It seems to just be a convenient way to talk to each other, and the NDA gives Riot comfort that anything they say won't be used inappropriately. (Like, say a mod selling information or giving it to a competitor company or whatever.)

And for journalists I mean not really? A lot of journalists write in-depth about issues but they're not experts in their field. So they go find someone who is. Or maybe they approach the company or employees directly. And these people are happy to help, but for whatever reason they're not comfortable with having their name and the fact they talked disclosed. This could be for totally innocent and valid reasons. For example, maybe you're a Community Credit Union and you're happy to talk about how ELA requests to the central bank work, but you know what if you're disclosed as the source of information then weird angry people on the internet will spam your company with death threats and honestly it's not worth your time and effort dealing with them. NDAs like that aren't as rare as you think they might be.

I don't think its a strict business relationship in the sense that money is exchanging hands, but information is, in a manner that has no source to protect. it's an entity of "Riot" giving the information. not an individual. It's not dissimilar to a source, but it's not the same either.

Riot isn't asking not to be disclosed as the source for information, like an individual would, riot is asking for the mod's to be complicit with what riot wants to be released and what they do not want to be released. and the expectation of that can interfere with the impartiality of what a moderator of a media site should be. It's not outright unethical. but it gives the appearance of it, and at the level of importance reddit is to the league scene, they should be held to higher standards than as moderators trying to keep the peace as they really become gatekeepers of what media is allowed in the community when it comes to league of legends.

EDIT: an example of this would be if a company gave exclusive information to a specific Journalist, citing when announcements would be and what would be announced, with an NDA citing that the journalist couldn't mention the information existing. The journalist is a freelancer, and books his flight early for the location of the announcement (a press conference/E3/Whatever), arrives early, is first in line to interview a representative of the company about the announcement and uploads his article that was written with advanced knowledge within seconds of the announcement, with no disclosure of the relationship between that company and the journalist.

that goes further than a source that asks not to be published, which should be kept secret. it's a relationship that benefits both the company (by coloring the reception of said announcement by the journalist, in a favorable manner, intentionally or not), and the journalist. outside of that of an anonymous source, which wouldn't have colored the article in the same manner, the journalist would be beholden to that individual, rather than a corporate entity.

While reddit mods are not journalists, they occupy a similar space as editors do for league of legends, controlling which content is put through with what language is acceptable or whatever.

It's one thing to do what you can to protect your sources, its another when you are getting extra information officially from an entity in order to write about that entity. When your source is your subject things get a little fuzzy, which is why journalists will recuse themselves from such topics, but its not like a league of legends reddit mod can do so. unless they delegate the jobs where certain mods are only allowed to remove duplicate posts with no quality concerns, purely basing their judgement on time posts, and they can be in with riot, while the quality judgement come from less biased mods.
On March 29 2015 06:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
So you still don't know what an NDA is.

LOL never change Cheep.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
March 28 2015 21:47 GMT
#93142
On March 29 2015 06:44 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 06:36 MoonBear wrote:

On the issue of business relationships I don't see the moderators and Riot having one? It seems to just be a convenient way to talk to each other, and the NDA gives Riot comfort that anything they say won't be used inappropriately. (Like, say a mod selling information or giving it to a competitor company or whatever.)

And for journalists I mean not really? A lot of journalists write in-depth about issues but they're not experts in their field. So they go find someone who is. Or maybe they approach the company or employees directly. And these people are happy to help, but for whatever reason they're not comfortable with having their name and the fact they talked disclosed. This could be for totally innocent and valid reasons. For example, maybe you're a Community Credit Union and you're happy to talk about how ELA requests to the central bank work, but you know what if you're disclosed as the source of information then weird angry people on the internet will spam your company with death threats and honestly it's not worth your time and effort dealing with them. NDAs like that aren't as rare as you think they might be.

I don't think its a strict business relationship in the sense that money is exchanging hands, but information is, in a manner that has no source to protect. it's an entity of "Riot" giving the information. not an individual. It's not dissimilar to a source, but it's not the same either.

Riot isn't asking not to be disclosed as the source for information, like an individual would, riot is asking for the mod's to be complicit with what riot wants to be released and what they do not want to be released. and the expectation of that can interfere with the impartiality of what a moderator of a media site should be. It's not outright unethical. but it gives the appearance of it, and at the level of importance reddit is to the league scene, they should be held to higher standards than as moderators trying to keep the peace as they really become gatekeepers of what media is allowed in the community when it comes to league of legends.


So you still don't know what an NDA is.
TranslatorBaa!
Marmy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Iran1697 Posts
March 28 2015 22:25 GMT
#93143
Glad you guys liked the video
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 00:10:13
March 29 2015 00:01 GMT
#93144
In the finals of this tournament, watching the semis atm, might stream this one to test if i can stream the finals.

http://www.twitch.tv/crusnik77 currently in pick/ban, have 5 minute delay because I'm lazy and dont want to shut down/start up again if it's working.
Steam: rook492
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 29 2015 00:10 GMT
#93145
DO IT CRUSINIK
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
March 29 2015 00:12 GMT
#93146
I'm not playing yet! ~
Steam: rook492
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 02:23:40
March 29 2015 00:58 GMT
#93147
OK, waiting on the other team

Game is starting soon, they finally got in the lobby.

Had to end the stream, I started lagging.

And we won, would have liked to stream it since it was funny and I got 1st hit bashes constantly on a Puck.
Steam: rook492
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
March 29 2015 02:36 GMT
#93148
1357350394 is the match ID if anyone wants to watch it.
Steam: rook492
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 29 2015 02:44 GMT
#93149
On March 29 2015 11:36 Crusnik wrote:
1357350394 is the match ID if anyone wants to watch it.

Private game, can't watch it.
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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 02:45:33
March 29 2015 02:45 GMT
#93150
Fuck Maybe I'll record it on twitch while watching it, it was a bloodbath.

Actually, what's your id Yango? Maybe friends can watch it.
Steam: rook492
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 03:41:11
March 29 2015 03:35 GMT
#93151
It's hilarious for me how many UW/UWR/UWB control decks I play against in Modern around my area, and how many of them rely on literally just Colonnades as their win condition (some run a single Gideon maindeck). Gifts for Edges/Raven's Crime + Life from Loam
Forever Young
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 29 2015 06:18 GMT
#93152
For whatever reason its popular, the deck gets a bit stronger with ojatai backing it up. I expect there to be quite a few jeskai control decks in the pt in two weeks.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
March 29 2015 06:40 GMT
#93153
I've been working on this Philosophy Paper for two days straight now. Magical things happen to one's state of mind when they do Philosophy late at night.

How are you guys doing? Figured I'd post here to get a breath of fresh air so to speak.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
March 29 2015 06:42 GMT
#93154
I am tired. I also worked with someone today that I haven't seen since 8th grade. It was weird.

Philosophy sounds much more interesting than my life at the moment. I would go back.
Writer@WriterYamato
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
March 29 2015 07:13 GMT
#93155
I'm packing for my move next week. I should really go to bed tho.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 29 2015 07:31 GMT
#93156
Aaaaaaand no idea what to do in Bloodborne. So many dead ends.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
March 29 2015 08:11 GMT
#93157
On March 29 2015 16:31 onlywonderboy wrote:
Aaaaaaand no idea what to do in Bloodborne. So many dead ends.


Stack the werewolves on the stairs.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Sunaj
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada2041 Posts
March 29 2015 09:08 GMT
#93158
yay being awake at 6am to shovel out the driveway again. Only 2-3 more weeks, then maybe spring starts pls?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 29 2015 11:42 GMT
#93159
My eyes hurt. Think I "slept" something like 7-8 hours though. But took me a good hour to fall sleep again. Just got up at 1:30 PM, urgh, what a way to start a day.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 29 2015 12:43 GMT
#93160
On March 29 2015 20:42 Alaric wrote:
My eyes hurt. Think I "slept" something like 7-8 hours though. But took me a good hour to fall sleep again. Just got up at 1:30 PM, urgh, what a way to start a day.


Sounds like me most nights . Hate the whole waking up and your eyes feel like shit. Hope your day will be better :D
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