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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 23 2015 00:19 GMT
#87001
Why does the existence of 'basic bitches and bros' at the gym deter you from going?
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 23 2015 00:20 GMT
#87002
On February 23 2015 09:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:08 PrinceXizor wrote:
On February 23 2015 09:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno there's way more disturbing movies out there than that these days. Not to say it's a bad movie or anything, cause it's really good.

I mean yeah but silence of the lambs covers making people bits into things pretty well. I guess AHS season 2 does it pretty well as well.

I've never seen ahs;I hear it's good.
As far as disturbing shows go, I won't watch sons of anarchy with my wife because it's literally violence gore and rape just for the hell of it on that show, but even worse is probably criminal minds.

The shit the writers come up with for serial killers to do on that show actually made me stop watching it. I mean I love a good horror/gore movie (SoA took its dealings with it too seriously when the action was far from, so I was less disturbed by it and more 'this is just stupid') but some of that criminal minds stuff is so truly disturbing and worst of all plausible.

AHS is definitely more drama and off-screen horror(or gore), barring a couple zombie-themed scenarios in one of the seasons. i definitely would recommend it if you like those sorts of things, each season is self contained as a story so you don't need to worry about that sort of thing. literally completely new characters.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 23 2015 00:22 GMT
#87003
I'm changed into gym clothes we are making progress.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
February 23 2015 00:23 GMT
#87004
On February 23 2015 09:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm changed into gym clothes we are making progress.


You'll feel great once you get a good workout in.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 23 2015 00:27 GMT
#87005
On February 23 2015 09:13 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:06 Parnage wrote:
On February 23 2015 09:03 TheYango wrote:
On February 23 2015 08:58 Parnage wrote:
The RPGs I use to measure all others is Arcanum and Plane Scape Torment. They give you good settings, lot of options on how to play, and don't ask you to be the iconic hero of prophecy unless you want to.

If Arcanum/PST are your benchmarks, I'd expect you to be disappointed quite often.


As far as I'm concerned, rpg's haven't been particularly good in sometime yes.

I mean, I don't disagree, I just would never go into Divinity expecting PST or Arcanum, though that's also because I've played Divine Divinity, so I have some idea of what kind of game to expect from the series.

I haven't played it yet, though while I expect it's good, it's probably not Black-Isle-golden-age-good, but I have no clue why you'd ever expect that. You don't go into games expecting them to be that good, because that just sets you up to be disappointed (see SC2).

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On February 23 2015 09:11 Holyflare wrote:
If you were looking for something more open ended like skyrim it wouldn't really be this. KOTOR is the best comparison imo.

Bethesda games aren't RPGs, IMO.

They're more like exploration games with ham-fisted RPG mechanics tacked on top.


The very idea that I can't expect games made in 2015 to not be as solid as those made 2001 just breaks my little nerd heart. I have no idea about the series I'm just looking for something that is actual open ended preferably that doesn't also make me sick after an hour of playing it due to camera view.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
February 23 2015 00:29 GMT
#87006
On February 23 2015 09:19 red_ wrote:
Why does the existence of 'basic bitches and bros' at the gym deter you from going?

Superiority complex.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
February 23 2015 00:29 GMT
#87007
I mean don't you at least enjoy looking at dem basic bitches.
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crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
February 23 2015 00:30 GMT
#87008
On February 23 2015 09:29 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:19 red_ wrote:
Why does the existence of 'basic bitches and bros' at the gym deter you from going?

Superiority complex.

Somewhat, I'll admit.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 23 2015 00:38 GMT
#87009
On February 23 2015 09:27 Parnage wrote:
The very idea that I can't expect games made in 2015 to not be as solid as those made 2001 just breaks my little nerd heart. I have no idea about the series I'm just looking for something that is actual open ended preferably that doesn't also make me sick after an hour of playing it due to camera view.

I mean, the good games in 2001 were anomalous too. Most of the games released then were also shit, it's just that after playing video games for like 15-20 years, there's gonna be some outliers that were exceptionally good and you happen to remember those. It's still unreasonable to expect games that come out to be as good as the outliers that got lucky.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 23 2015 00:40 GMT
#87010
On February 23 2015 09:29 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:19 red_ wrote:
Why does the existence of 'basic bitches and bros' at the gym deter you from going?

Superiority complex.


I guess that's the expected answer. Saying it's silly is obvious and doesn't fix anything, but really it is silly.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
February 23 2015 00:41 GMT
#87011
On February 23 2015 06:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:02 Numy wrote:
EDIT: I actually don't want to get into an argument in OT. Let's just be happy shitposting. Sorry

This exactly.
Who the fuck cares about lol, stop talking about it

Edit:

The silent c sheep
Strikes those who get on his nerves
From the deep shadow


I just woke up I wasn't even here D:
TranslatorBaa!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 23 2015 00:42 GMT
#87012
On February 23 2015 09:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 06:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 23 2015 06:02 Numy wrote:
EDIT: I actually don't want to get into an argument in OT. Let's just be happy shitposting. Sorry

This exactly.
Who the fuck cares about lol, stop talking about it

Edit:

The silent c sheep
Strikes those who get on his nerves
From the deep shadow


I just woke up I wasn't even here D:

See, he even punishes the shitposters in his dreams.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 23 2015 00:44 GMT
#87013
On February 23 2015 09:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:27 Parnage wrote:
The very idea that I can't expect games made in 2015 to not be as solid as those made 2001 just breaks my little nerd heart. I have no idea about the series I'm just looking for something that is actual open ended preferably that doesn't also make me sick after an hour of playing it due to camera view.

I mean, the good games in 2001 were anomalous too. Most of the games released then were also shit, it's just that after playing video games for like 15-20 years, there's gonna be some outliers that were exceptionally good and you happen to remember those. It's still unreasonable to expect games that come out to be as good as the outliers that got lucky.


I don't think it's unreasonable to ask to have the same amount of options and freedom in a rpg made in 2001 as a modern blockbuster rpg made in 2011. I mean I could understand more thematic experiences(along the lines of bioware qusi linear/look at this awesoem story RPG) but when your game is supposed to be some open world awesome freedom and it's being outdone in that freedom by a game made by a now defunct studio a decade previously. We got problems in the gaming industry.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 23 2015 00:45 GMT
#87014
On February 23 2015 09:05 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:04 crimethinking wrote:
On February 23 2015 09:02 onlywonderboy wrote:
Someone give me the motivation to go to the gym, feelings so lazy :<

I hate going to the gym because of the basic bitches and the annoying "bro" crowd there. Better to stay at home and do bodyweight training.


I'm inclined to agree with this, but you don't get gainz from bodyweight training. Depends on what you're looking for.

I do that too (mostly because too lazy since I know there's at least one, if not two gyms under 15 minutes from my flat). Prob will have to do more though because atm it's not enough to prevent me from gaining weight.
Aging surely plays a part since after years of never putting on weight (even being underweight) no matter what I eat and in which quantities gotta catch up at some point and I'm past 26 now.

On February 23 2015 07:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
WB btw, frudgey.
Your post yesterday made me smile.

See guys he dodged the mafia grudge match mention.
Think you're sneaky, Shadow dude?

On February 23 2015 07:04 mordek wrote:
I got all hypey watching soniv, bought viktor, feed in mid lane to a jarv.

I don't know how to play lol

J4 is a dick lane to a bunch of mages. Viktor is closer (in design, release date doesn't matter) to the old champions than the young ones, so don't be surprised. Pantheon would fuck him up too, but Panth's trades take too long so W would kinda work on him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
crimethinking
Profile Joined February 2015
Vietnam765 Posts
February 23 2015 00:47 GMT
#87015
On February 23 2015 09:44 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:38 TheYango wrote:
On February 23 2015 09:27 Parnage wrote:
The very idea that I can't expect games made in 2015 to not be as solid as those made 2001 just breaks my little nerd heart. I have no idea about the series I'm just looking for something that is actual open ended preferably that doesn't also make me sick after an hour of playing it due to camera view.

I mean, the good games in 2001 were anomalous too. Most of the games released then were also shit, it's just that after playing video games for like 15-20 years, there's gonna be some outliers that were exceptionally good and you happen to remember those. It's still unreasonable to expect games that come out to be as good as the outliers that got lucky.


I don't think it's unreasonable to ask to have the same amount of options and freedom in a rpg made in 2001 as a modern blockbuster rpg made in 2011. I mean I could understand more thematic experiences(along the lines of bioware qusi linear/look at this awesoem story RPG) but when your game is supposed to be some open world awesome freedom and it's being outdone in that freedom by a game made by a now defunct studio a decade previously. We got problems in the gaming industry.

Indeed. A lot of studios now chase after profit with DLCs and fluff rather than polishing and innovating. Of course, there are polished products, but there are a lot of turds out there too.
ktrolster | OMG | worldelite
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 00:56:38
February 23 2015 00:49 GMT
#87016
On February 23 2015 09:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:27 Parnage wrote:
The very idea that I can't expect games made in 2015 to not be as solid as those made 2001 just breaks my little nerd heart. I have no idea about the series I'm just looking for something that is actual open ended preferably that doesn't also make me sick after an hour of playing it due to camera view.

I mean, the good games in 2001 were anomalous too. Most of the games released then were also shit, it's just that after playing video games for like 15-20 years, there's gonna be some outliers that were exceptionally good and you happen to remember those. It's still unreasonable to expect games that come out to be as good as the outliers that got lucky.

I mean 2001 is a bad example for that, because 2001 was an insane year for game releases.

runescape, FFIX, Black and white, Bejeweled, throne of Bhaal, FFX, Advance wars, Silent hill 2, Ico, GTA 3, Wrath of Cortex, Stronghold, DMC, Halo, Super monkey ball, Melee, Pikmin, Arcanum,

EDIT: forgot animal crossing, Lord of Destruction, galactic battlegrounds, Train simulator, fatal frame

entire genres were defined that year.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 00:51:07
February 23 2015 00:50 GMT
#87017
Super Monkey Ball was 2001??????

holy crap man..

it's really weird to think back and know I've been playing melee for over a decade
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 00:59:54
February 23 2015 00:52 GMT
#87018
On February 23 2015 09:49 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 09:38 TheYango wrote:
On February 23 2015 09:27 Parnage wrote:
The very idea that I can't expect games made in 2015 to not be as solid as those made 2001 just breaks my little nerd heart. I have no idea about the series I'm just looking for something that is actual open ended preferably that doesn't also make me sick after an hour of playing it due to camera view.

I mean, the good games in 2001 were anomalous too. Most of the games released then were also shit, it's just that after playing video games for like 15-20 years, there's gonna be some outliers that were exceptionally good and you happen to remember those. It's still unreasonable to expect games that come out to be as good as the outliers that got lucky.

I mean 2001 is a bad example for that, because 2001 was an insane year for game releases.

runescape, FFIX, Black and white, Bejeweled, throne of Bhaal, FFX, Advance wars, Silent hill 2, Ico, GTA 3, Wrath of Cortex, Stronghold, DMC, Halo, Super monkey ball, Melee, Pikmin, Arcanum,

Yeah I just looked at the list and now I feel super old.

On February 23 2015 09:44 Parnage wrote:
I don't think it's unreasonable to ask to have the same amount of options and freedom in a rpg made in 2001 as a modern blockbuster rpg made in 2011. I mean I could understand more thematic experiences(along the lines of bioware qusi linear/look at this awesoem story RPG) but when your game is supposed to be some open world awesome freedom and it's being outdone in that freedom by a game made by a now defunct studio a decade previously. We got problems in the gaming industry.

IDK, design elements in creative media tend to improve super slowly. Ideally it could be an incremental process like you say, but the industries never really work that way.

If you think about it, other media are exactly the same, it's not really unique to games. Like other than the obvious technological advancements that apply to both industries, can you really say that the creative/design elements in movies are better now than they were 20 years ago?
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 23 2015 00:54 GMT
#87019
Writing 26 in the last post I felt super old.
I remember getting Advance Wars at the videogame store and I thought I was 1-2 years older when it came out. Man the memories with that store.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 01:00:54
February 23 2015 00:59 GMT
#87020
On February 23 2015 09:52 TheYango wrote:
IDK, design elements in creative media tend to improve super slowly. Ideally it could be an incremental process like you say, but the industries never really work that way.

If you think about it, other media are exactly the same, it's not really unique to games. Like other than the obvious technological advancements that apply to both industries, can you really say that the creative/design elements in movies are better now than they were 20 years ago?

Its only slowly over time, it tends to happen in jumps, someone with a vision drags the medium along with him all at once, and then the people iterate on that until the next great mind comes along.

I'd say most of the advances in film in the last 20 years have come from shit people outside of film rarely notice as good or exceptional. Cinematography has improved leaps since then.
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