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On February 20 2015 01:05 AlterKot wrote:
Do you guys who say it's about nostalgia goggles tried rewatching TLA? I did and I just don't understand how can people say that Korra is even close when it comes to pacing, character development, tact of tackling the issues, overall maturity and humour. The only thing that's a clear upgrade for me is animation and build-up of the villains, altough the conclusions weren't satysfying at all.
Every time I watch TLA, I like it less. I still like it, but nowhere near as much as I used to.
On February 20 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote:who the fuck sends money by post , that's just asking for thieves to steal it
Pretty much nobody anymore, afaik. People nowadays send money through a money order company like Western Union.
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Oh absolutely, S3 of Korra was one of my favorite seasons of an animated show of recent years (and thus all shows since I watch mostly animated stuff). But still, if TLA is a 5/5, I'd give Korra a 3/5 - still recommendable and quite enjoyable, but I doubt it would hold it's fanbase without TLA's groundwork.
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I dunno. Both of them to me were entertaining enough but nothing "classic" or anything, so I don't really feel pressured to pick one over the other. The universe is a great idea and in the hands of someone really talented, and without the shackles of Nickelodeon, they could probably make something really cool out of it.
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See, I didn't really like Korra S3.
I liked it more than S2 because it had cooler bad guys, and a pretty cool ending fight scene where S2's big final fight was lame.
But it's like, it felt super disjointed from the rest of the narrative. We've got these sudden bad guys who show up out of nowhere only apparently they're super important we just haven't heard about them, and one of them becomes like the best airbender in the world in a few weeks when he just got the ability recently which was super unbelievable, etcetera.
The end of Korra season 2 set up what could have been a narrative that lasted for the rest of its run, opening the spirit portals and getting access to the spirit world. They could have done things with spirits for the rest of the show and it would have expanded the existing universe and stayed interesting. But instead the big plot point that S2 was all about was never really used again except to show cute floating bunnies from time to time.
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Part of it for me is that I'm just so drawn to the thought of "elemental casting". It's always been such a boss concept for me.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On February 19 2015 23:52 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2015 23:48 Holyflare wrote:On February 19 2015 23:40 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Steel will fix all your flaws, Holyflare and nothing can fix viktors! you aren't even using the viktor portrait, you have no resolve! I have allowed Alaric the use of Viktor portrait out of the kindness of my heart. My tablet and phone backgrounds are Viktor, and my cat's name is Viktor. Get your weak English ass outta here. Go get hit stunned.
He did.
Yesterday.
Also he forgot how to air dash.
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-18 before windchill
no class :D
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On February 20 2015 01:42 Requizen wrote:
I dunno. Both of them to me were entertaining enough but nothing "classic" or anything, so I don't really feel pressured to pick one over the other. The universe is a great idea and in the hands of someone really talented, and without the shackles of Nickelodeon, they could probably make something really cool out of it.
I just ooze at the thought of a mature avatar series with music by Hiroyuki Sawano. Director I'm not sure honestly. All I know is I want Hiroyuki Sawano doing the soundtrack. It's a pity western animation are either for kids or comedy shows for adults. Personally feel there's so so much potential with animation compared to live action that just gets completely unused due to these preconceived notions.
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On February 20 2015 01:35 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 01:28 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 20 2015 01:25 ComaDose wrote:On February 20 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
who the fuck sends money by post, that's just asking for thieves to steal it i believe i would just be sending them proof/forms and then they mail me a debit/visa card of some variety? yeah you send a form that usually comes in the packaging and you get sent a prepaid you have to activate. that's lame cause it takes so long to get it and then you have to buy something that expensive again to actually use it. wish i could just get a check or something.
you don't really need to buy something expensive, you can just use it to pay for your groceries and indirectly put money in your bank account that way.
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On February 20 2015 01:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:Part of it for me is that I'm just so drawn to the thought of "elemental casting". It's always been such a boss concept for me. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tQk7Ce8glE
I mean yeah if the big draw of the show to you was the fight scenes, Korra season 3 is fantastic.
That's not my favorite part of the universe, my favorite part is the story and worldbuilding, which Korra just did not have, especially in season 3.
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On February 20 2015 01:47 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 01:35 ComaDose wrote:On February 20 2015 01:28 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 20 2015 01:25 ComaDose wrote:On February 20 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
who the fuck sends money by post, that's just asking for thieves to steal it i believe i would just be sending them proof/forms and then they mail me a debit/visa card of some variety? yeah you send a form that usually comes in the packaging and you get sent a prepaid you have to activate. that's lame cause it takes so long to get it and then you have to buy something that expensive again to actually use it. wish i could just get a check or something. you don't really need to buy something expensive, you can just use it to pay for your groceries and indirectly put money in your bank account that way.
yeah but then it gets declined eventually which is embarrassing, then you have to find out how much is left on it and ask someone to use that much next time and pay with multiple methods. It would just be so much nicer if they just dumped it back into my account. or even better just refunded my visa.
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Release notes are done. I feel so ashamed of how many forced love-related jokes/puns there are...
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Korra S3 explored the modern Earth kingdom, showed the life of common folks, shown the Metalbenders city, Lin's family and their culture, shown another air temple and airbenders culture, gave us another secret society and fleshed out the airbender's philosophy with approach of Guru Laghima and Zaheer, shown how the royalty works and what would happen to Ba Sing Se if there was no royalty... That's so much more than other seasons.
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On February 20 2015 01:57 ComaDose wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 01:47 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 20 2015 01:35 ComaDose wrote:On February 20 2015 01:28 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 20 2015 01:25 ComaDose wrote:On February 20 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
who the fuck sends money by post, that's just asking for thieves to steal it i believe i would just be sending them proof/forms and then they mail me a debit/visa card of some variety? yeah you send a form that usually comes in the packaging and you get sent a prepaid you have to activate. that's lame cause it takes so long to get it and then you have to buy something that expensive again to actually use it. wish i could just get a check or something. you don't really need to buy something expensive, you can just use it to pay for your groceries and indirectly put money in your bank account that way. yeah but then it gets declined eventually which is embarrassing, then you have to find out how much is left on it and ask someone to use that much next time and pay with multiple methods. It would just be so much nicer if they just dumped it back into my account. or even better just refunded my visa.
could just paypal it back an forth and eat the fee. or you could use it to pay your credit card bill, so you can just enter the full amount online and be done with it.
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On February 20 2015 01:59 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 01:57 ComaDose wrote:On February 20 2015 01:47 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 20 2015 01:35 ComaDose wrote:On February 20 2015 01:28 PrinceXizor wrote:On February 20 2015 01:25 ComaDose wrote:On February 20 2015 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
who the fuck sends money by post, that's just asking for thieves to steal it i believe i would just be sending them proof/forms and then they mail me a debit/visa card of some variety? yeah you send a form that usually comes in the packaging and you get sent a prepaid you have to activate. that's lame cause it takes so long to get it and then you have to buy something that expensive again to actually use it. wish i could just get a check or something. you don't really need to buy something expensive, you can just use it to pay for your groceries and indirectly put money in your bank account that way. yeah but then it gets declined eventually which is embarrassing, then you have to find out how much is left on it and ask someone to use that much next time and pay with multiple methods. It would just be so much nicer if they just dumped it back into my account. or even better just refunded my visa. could just paypal it back an forth and eat the fee. or you could use it to pay your credit card bill, so you can just enter the full amount online and be done with it.
that credit card bill is a good idea. not sure how to do that with online banking but thanks for the tip!
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On February 20 2015 01:31 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 01:25 Requizen wrote:On February 20 2015 01:19 AlterKot wrote:On February 20 2015 01:08 Numy wrote:
There are some flashy moments but got Korra is a moron for 4 seasons. Her main cast are all dumb except Asami. Mako is a completely incompetent fire bender. The adults act like children most of the time. The whole pacing was just iffy. The comic relief scientist was cringey most of the time. How does the guy not get put in prison? The bending was the worst part for me. TLA bending was raw and savage. Korra bending was small and polished. Sorry no the worst part was that they try bring up these big political and social issues but don't take the time or effort to really explore them. I understand it's primarily a kids show but if you going to bring up all these things at least do it properly. This is another thing that pales in comparison with TLA. That show had those small, subtle mentions of concepts from different philosophies and for the most part dealt with simple and personal issues (why lying is bad for one), but tackled them with a lot of maturity and depth. LoK pretty much just takes those ideas of communism, anarchy and fascism, tries to show things aren't so black&white by showing where they come from and how they hurt some people while helping others, but ultimately resort to portraying their leaders as maniacs who need to be stopped. Aside from the crazy dude in Season 2 (Unalaq... so forgettable I had to look it up), I think it was less that they were all maniacs, and more that any idea, even ones with a good basis, can turn bad if taken too far. That's not a new concept, and most of the ideas had been played out before in other media, but aside from S2 I didn't think any of the villains felt like just crazy people. They all felt fleshed out enough to have purpose that had been twisted, imo. The crazy Earth Queen. Also pushing the "United Earth States" in 30 seconds in the last episode was absolutely atrocious. They just didn't have a clear narrative they wanted for Korra. They had the random monarchy/anarchy/communism/fascism stuff while didn't really tie together well then they have Korra's personal journey of how not to be an idiot and lastly the whole "life in balance with nature" aspect. If instead of pulling all these concepts throughout the whole show they instead dealt with them some of them fully within 1/2 seasons they could have had a lot stronger narrative throughout the whole show. Instead it's just a jumbled mess. Oh I forget, throw in sexuality there as an afterthought like they did.
Am I the only one who thought their relationship had far more basis than literally any other one in either show? There are signs of that happening WAY before that last scene. They're just subtle and oriented around a growing friendship like, you know, real relationships.
Edit: Wait, THIRD best relationship. #1 is Zaheer and P'li. #2 is Varruk and Zhu Li.
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On February 20 2015 02:03 ComaDose wrote:
that credit card bill is a good idea. not sure how to do that with online banking but thanks for the tip!
Just throwing out the things i've done with prepaids. xD rebate shopping is a good way to save money if you keep on top of things.
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On February 20 2015 02:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 01:31 Numy wrote:On February 20 2015 01:25 Requizen wrote:On February 20 2015 01:19 AlterKot wrote:On February 20 2015 01:08 Numy wrote:
There are some flashy moments but got Korra is a moron for 4 seasons. Her main cast are all dumb except Asami. Mako is a completely incompetent fire bender. The adults act like children most of the time. The whole pacing was just iffy. The comic relief scientist was cringey most of the time. How does the guy not get put in prison? The bending was the worst part for me. TLA bending was raw and savage. Korra bending was small and polished. Sorry no the worst part was that they try bring up these big political and social issues but don't take the time or effort to really explore them. I understand it's primarily a kids show but if you going to bring up all these things at least do it properly. This is another thing that pales in comparison with TLA. That show had those small, subtle mentions of concepts from different philosophies and for the most part dealt with simple and personal issues (why lying is bad for one), but tackled them with a lot of maturity and depth. LoK pretty much just takes those ideas of communism, anarchy and fascism, tries to show things aren't so black&white by showing where they come from and how they hurt some people while helping others, but ultimately resort to portraying their leaders as maniacs who need to be stopped. Aside from the crazy dude in Season 2 (Unalaq... so forgettable I had to look it up), I think it was less that they were all maniacs, and more that any idea, even ones with a good basis, can turn bad if taken too far. That's not a new concept, and most of the ideas had been played out before in other media, but aside from S2 I didn't think any of the villains felt like just crazy people. They all felt fleshed out enough to have purpose that had been twisted, imo. The crazy Earth Queen. Also pushing the "United Earth States" in 30 seconds in the last episode was absolutely atrocious. They just didn't have a clear narrative they wanted for Korra. They had the random monarchy/anarchy/communism/fascism stuff while didn't really tie together well then they have Korra's personal journey of how not to be an idiot and lastly the whole "life in balance with nature" aspect. If instead of pulling all these concepts throughout the whole show they instead dealt with them some of them fully within 1/2 seasons they could have had a lot stronger narrative throughout the whole show. Instead it's just a jumbled mess. Oh I forget, throw in sexuality there as an afterthought like they did. Am I the only one who thought their relationship had far more basis than literally any other one in either show? There are signs of that happening WAY before that last scene. They're just subtle and oriented around a growing friendship like, you know, real relationships. Edit: Wait, THIRD best relationship. #1 is Zaheer and P'li. #2 is Varruk and Zhu Li.
I honestly like Combustion Man more than P'li. Not for character or anything, but I felt like the casting style was way cooler.
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On February 20 2015 02:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 02:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 20 2015 01:31 Numy wrote:On February 20 2015 01:25 Requizen wrote:On February 20 2015 01:19 AlterKot wrote:On February 20 2015 01:08 Numy wrote:
There are some flashy moments but got Korra is a moron for 4 seasons. Her main cast are all dumb except Asami. Mako is a completely incompetent fire bender. The adults act like children most of the time. The whole pacing was just iffy. The comic relief scientist was cringey most of the time. How does the guy not get put in prison? The bending was the worst part for me. TLA bending was raw and savage. Korra bending was small and polished. Sorry no the worst part was that they try bring up these big political and social issues but don't take the time or effort to really explore them. I understand it's primarily a kids show but if you going to bring up all these things at least do it properly. This is another thing that pales in comparison with TLA. That show had those small, subtle mentions of concepts from different philosophies and for the most part dealt with simple and personal issues (why lying is bad for one), but tackled them with a lot of maturity and depth. LoK pretty much just takes those ideas of communism, anarchy and fascism, tries to show things aren't so black&white by showing where they come from and how they hurt some people while helping others, but ultimately resort to portraying their leaders as maniacs who need to be stopped. Aside from the crazy dude in Season 2 (Unalaq... so forgettable I had to look it up), I think it was less that they were all maniacs, and more that any idea, even ones with a good basis, can turn bad if taken too far. That's not a new concept, and most of the ideas had been played out before in other media, but aside from S2 I didn't think any of the villains felt like just crazy people. They all felt fleshed out enough to have purpose that had been twisted, imo. The crazy Earth Queen. Also pushing the "United Earth States" in 30 seconds in the last episode was absolutely atrocious. They just didn't have a clear narrative they wanted for Korra. They had the random monarchy/anarchy/communism/fascism stuff while didn't really tie together well then they have Korra's personal journey of how not to be an idiot and lastly the whole "life in balance with nature" aspect. If instead of pulling all these concepts throughout the whole show they instead dealt with them some of them fully within 1/2 seasons they could have had a lot stronger narrative throughout the whole show. Instead it's just a jumbled mess. Oh I forget, throw in sexuality there as an afterthought like they did. Am I the only one who thought their relationship had far more basis than literally any other one in either show? There are signs of that happening WAY before that last scene. They're just subtle and oriented around a growing friendship like, you know, real relationships. Edit: Wait, THIRD best relationship. #1 is Zaheer and P'li. #2 is Varruk and Zhu Li. I honestly like Combustion Man more than P'li. Not for character or anything, but I felt like the casting style was way cooler.
She gets the least fight time out of those four AWESOME villains, which sucks. Also she mostly is just a sniper, which is never particularly interesting, sadly.
Octopus arm lady tho.
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On February 20 2015 02:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2015 02:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:On February 20 2015 02:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 20 2015 01:31 Numy wrote:On February 20 2015 01:25 Requizen wrote:On February 20 2015 01:19 AlterKot wrote:On February 20 2015 01:08 Numy wrote:
There are some flashy moments but got Korra is a moron for 4 seasons. Her main cast are all dumb except Asami. Mako is a completely incompetent fire bender. The adults act like children most of the time. The whole pacing was just iffy. The comic relief scientist was cringey most of the time. How does the guy not get put in prison? The bending was the worst part for me. TLA bending was raw and savage. Korra bending was small and polished. Sorry no the worst part was that they try bring up these big political and social issues but don't take the time or effort to really explore them. I understand it's primarily a kids show but if you going to bring up all these things at least do it properly. This is another thing that pales in comparison with TLA. That show had those small, subtle mentions of concepts from different philosophies and for the most part dealt with simple and personal issues (why lying is bad for one), but tackled them with a lot of maturity and depth. LoK pretty much just takes those ideas of communism, anarchy and fascism, tries to show things aren't so black&white by showing where they come from and how they hurt some people while helping others, but ultimately resort to portraying their leaders as maniacs who need to be stopped. Aside from the crazy dude in Season 2 (Unalaq... so forgettable I had to look it up), I think it was less that they were all maniacs, and more that any idea, even ones with a good basis, can turn bad if taken too far. That's not a new concept, and most of the ideas had been played out before in other media, but aside from S2 I didn't think any of the villains felt like just crazy people. They all felt fleshed out enough to have purpose that had been twisted, imo. The crazy Earth Queen. Also pushing the "United Earth States" in 30 seconds in the last episode was absolutely atrocious. They just didn't have a clear narrative they wanted for Korra. They had the random monarchy/anarchy/communism/fascism stuff while didn't really tie together well then they have Korra's personal journey of how not to be an idiot and lastly the whole "life in balance with nature" aspect. If instead of pulling all these concepts throughout the whole show they instead dealt with them some of them fully within 1/2 seasons they could have had a lot stronger narrative throughout the whole show. Instead it's just a jumbled mess. Oh I forget, throw in sexuality there as an afterthought like they did. Am I the only one who thought their relationship had far more basis than literally any other one in either show? There are signs of that happening WAY before that last scene. They're just subtle and oriented around a growing friendship like, you know, real relationships. Edit: Wait, THIRD best relationship. #1 is Zaheer and P'li. #2 is Varruk and Zhu Li. I honestly like Combustion Man more than P'li. Not for character or anything, but I felt like the casting style was way cooler. She gets the least fight time out of those four AWESOME villains, which sucks. Also she mostly is just a sniper, which is never particularly interesting, sadly. Octopus arm lady tho.
Yeah she was my favorite. #watertribe
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