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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 12 2014 16:05 GMT
#48821
On July 12 2014 17:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
I haven't bothered with the official Chinese casts, but according to Reddit, the official Chinese TI4 casters are apparently awful.

It depends who you're listening to. The SCNTV commentators blow, for example, but anyone who's watched WPC-ACE would already know that.
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 12 2014 16:10 GMT
#48822
Huh, for me it was the opposite. Wasn't a big fan of dailies, liked day9's casting a LOT though
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 12 2014 16:13 GMT
#48823
On July 13 2014 01:10 Scip wrote:
Huh, for me it was the opposite. Wasn't a big fan of dailies, liked day9's casting a LOT though

I guess after the initial year of SC2's release, his casting felt extremely fake. Like over the top fake enthusiasm, and it just started to rub me the wrong way. Also wasn't really a fan of the common Husky+day9 combo, nor the itmejp+day9 combo.
liftlift > tsm
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 12 2014 16:19 GMT
#48824
Yeah, itmejp and djwheat both were really bad. I guess I didn't watch much at all after the initial year of sc2 release which might be why I remember day9 to be so good.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 12 2014 16:20 GMT
#48825
On July 13 2014 01:05 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 17:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
I haven't bothered with the official Chinese casts, but according to Reddit, the official Chinese TI4 casters are apparently awful.

It depends who you're listening to. The SCNTV commentators blow, for example, but anyone who's watched WPC-ACE would already know that.

Which ones are the good ones? I'm watching mostly through the client
Bronze player stuck in platinum
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 12 2014 16:46 GMT
#48826
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 12 2014 16:49 GMT
#48827
Don't think anyone has done the stats nicely yet but datdota has the raw data. http://www.datdota.com/tournament.php?q=285&tournament=The International 2014&p=heroes


Just a quick look at that seems like 89 heroes been picked/banned.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 12 2014 16:50 GMT
#48828
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

Better than league.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 12 2014 16:50 GMT
#48829
On July 13 2014 01:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

Better than league.

Yes thanks for that. Clearly what I was looking for.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 12 2014 16:51 GMT
#48830
On July 13 2014 01:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

Better than league.

Surprising no one.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 16:53:41
July 12 2014 16:53 GMT
#48831
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

skywrath/enigma/rhasta also very popular. Skywrath is a new one to me though, but hard to argue with 1k damage nuke + 6 second silence. Void also pretty popular right now. Even saw clinkz once.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 12 2014 16:53 GMT
#48832
On July 13 2014 01:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

Better than league.

I thought my steak was missing a little bit of something but after reading this comment it tastes just right
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 16:54:27
July 12 2014 16:53 GMT
#48833
Is there a reason why we don't see more shadow fiend? Everytime I see it played, if the team can funnel right amount of farm early on to it, it just seems to take over the game.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 16:55:38
July 12 2014 16:55 GMT
#48834
On July 13 2014 01:53 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

skywrath/enigma/rhasta also very popular. Skywrath is a new one to me though, but hard to argue with 1k damage nuke + 6 second silence. Void also pretty popular right now. Even saw clinkz once.

Who is rhasta?
Shadow shaman?
Kinda dumb how each dota hero has two names and the one commonly used is completely arbitrary. It would be like calling xin zhao 'seneschal.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 17:00:38
July 12 2014 16:57 GMT
#48835
On July 13 2014 01:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

Better than league.

Yes thanks for that. Clearly what I was looking for.

there are close to 40 heroes picked in 10 games or more. i'd expect the distribution of picks to change as we go into bracket play and its not solely BO1's anymore.

On July 13 2014 01:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Is there a reason why we don't see more shadow fiend? Everytime I see it played, if the team can funnel right amount of farm early on to it, it just seems to take over the game.

SF plays like a balloon. easy to pop but gets big quickly if left unattended. SF is shut down pretty heavily by good ganks and TPs. he also struggles mightily against razor sapping all of his already crappy level 1 damage.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 12 2014 16:57 GMT
#48836
yea sorry rhasta's shadow shaman. I use whatever I'm most familiar with so it's like a weird combination of the hero's names and titles lol
Bronze player stuck in platinum
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
July 12 2014 17:05 GMT
#48837
On July 12 2014 21:34 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 13:03 red_ wrote:
C9 possibly catching Vici off guard with the Drow+Visage draft. Whether or not VG was prepared for it or has seen it before, C9 played it well, Aui farmed up so huge my god.

Edit: Fucking Lysander casting yet another iG game, I am so sick of him. Fuck you and your casting choices Valve.

How does Visage works with Drow? Iirc Drow sucks versus gapclosers and stuff like that (or she needs Abyssal Blade, and even then her ult gets disabled), if he a good peeler? Because of familiars to keep stunning people and zone them?


Drow turnsVisage birds into pushing machines because they count as ranged creeps for her aura, C9 give Aui far more farm than a standard Visage and he pumps out an Agh's really quickly for the 3rd bird and rushes towers down across the map with them. It's like 0 risk splitpushing.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 12 2014 17:08 GMT
#48838
On July 13 2014 02:05 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2014 21:34 Alaric wrote:
On July 12 2014 13:03 red_ wrote:
C9 possibly catching Vici off guard with the Drow+Visage draft. Whether or not VG was prepared for it or has seen it before, C9 played it well, Aui farmed up so huge my god.

Edit: Fucking Lysander casting yet another iG game, I am so sick of him. Fuck you and your casting choices Valve.

How does Visage works with Drow? Iirc Drow sucks versus gapclosers and stuff like that (or she needs Abyssal Blade, and even then her ult gets disabled), if he a good peeler? Because of familiars to keep stunning people and zone them?


Drow turnsVisage birds into pushing machines because they count as ranged creeps for her aura, C9 give Aui far more farm than a standard Visage and he pumps out an Agh's really quickly for the 3rd bird and rushes towers down across the map with them. It's like 0 risk splitpushing.

Like that horseshit natures prophet?
Who I might add I don't think we've seen very much of so far?
Also I could swear leshrac wished to be around a ton. What happened to him?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-12 17:13:46
July 12 2014 17:11 GMT
#48839
Isn't the bounty on them pretty high if they get popped, though? So it's not exactly 0-risk compared to PL or Naga (but comes online much faster I guess).

On July 13 2014 01:53 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

skywrath/enigma/rhasta also very popular. Skywrath is a new one to me though, but hard to argue with 1k damage nuke + 6 second silence. Void also pretty popular right now. Even saw clinkz once.

Skywrath's E was massively buffed in the last patch, the damage amplification on it at level 1 was doubled or something, to 36%? Huge one-point-wonder for any pick/gank comp I guess.

Skywrath, Tidehunter, Mirana in almost every game from what I saw. Void, Enigma, Rubick popular too.

And I went 8-2 on my smurf, Gold V. I wanted to be placed in Silver to goof around. T_T Smurfs and trolls too strong, I needed more smurfs against me.
(Can confirm that Ziggs is stupidly low skill floor and annoying as heck to play against as soon as he gets Chalice. I really like Brand's comboing but it shines in longer fights, which don't happen in lane, and later on he easily gets popped so he can't stick around. I have my window of fun with him, kinda. :<)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 12 2014 17:13 GMT
#48840
On July 13 2014 02:11 Alaric wrote:
Isn't the bounty on them pretty high if they get popped, though? So it's not exactly 0-risk compared to PL or Naga (but comes online much faster I guess).

Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 01:53 Nos- wrote:
On July 13 2014 01:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
What does the hero distribution look like so far? I could swear I see the same 20 heroes every game with a few exceptions here and there. (Razor, ember spirit, tide, etc)

skywrath/enigma/rhasta also very popular. Skywrath is a new one to me though, but hard to argue with 1k damage nuke + 6 second silence. Void also pretty popular right now. Even saw clinkz once.

Skywrath's E was massively buffed in the last patch, the damage amplification on it at level 1 was doubled or something, to 36%? Huge one-point-wonder for any pick/gank comp I guess.

Skywrath, Tidehunter, Mirana in almost every game from what I saw. Void, Enigma, Rubick popular too.


The damage amp is nice but it's more about the instant silence. He destroys initiators with cast times like Void/Panda.
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