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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 14 2014 01:23 GMT
#39161
On May 14 2014 10:18 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 10:14 Slayer91 wrote:
there also can't be a 12, 6, 9 right triangle, whats your point?
if it was a right triangle we wouldn't need the other trinagle for anything because of pythagoras' theorem


So you're saying you instantly caught on to the picture being misleading because the second triangle was there at all? My instinct was just that there was extra information present(or that the kids don't know Pythag's yet), but that I would still just solve it that way. It wasn't until I realized that working in either direction(3:2 or 2:3) worked with pythag's that I considered the picture was incredibly retarded and neither are right triangles.

Maybe you're just more intelligent than me, I suppose that's what you're fishing for.


everything about the question is incredibly retarded though
you will never take a college class where people draw right triangles and then go LOL BUT I DIDNT DRAW THE RETARDED L THING IN THE CORNER BAITED BROHAN
diagrams are a useful aid for solving problems and drawing bad diagrams on purpose is just all around retarded
you defended the question as teaching critical thinking the only thing the problem teaches is how to cross multiply fractions and ignore things that you shouldn't ignore in any other situation where you have to solve with less numerical information but more geometric or other information
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 01:30:04
May 14 2014 01:29 GMT
#39162
On May 14 2014 10:18 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 10:14 Slayer91 wrote:
there also can't be a 12, 6, 9 right triangle, whats your point?
if it was a right triangle we wouldn't need the other trinagle for anything because of pythagoras' theorem


So you're saying you instantly caught on to the picture being misleading because the second triangle was there at all? My instinct was just that there was extra information present(or that the kids don't know Pythag's yet), but that I would still just solve it that way. It wasn't until I realized that working in either direction(3:2 or 2:3) worked with pythag's that I considered the picture was incredibly retarded and neither are right triangles.

Maybe you're just more intelligent than me, I suppose that's what you're fishing for.

Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 10:17 LaNague wrote:
the picture isnt wrong, 90 degree angles have a special notation. If it is absent, then it is not 90 degrees, even in grade school


You know what, that's actually true, and I'm far more ashamed about missing that than anything else now.

Better than lord tolkien on stream
I was like "red can't get that 6 9 12 isn't a right triangle" and he was like
"lol, you can't even make a triangle out of that"

help me toxic his stream more pls
twitch.tv/lortolk
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
May 14 2014 01:30 GMT
#39163
i think its good that the teacher confronts the students with the "worst case".


Also, math in its "true form" (university stuff) is always at least as confusing as this little geometry exercise.
usually in highschool you dont get into contact with that shit since all you do is boring calculus.
I think its a good idea to let people have a taste of it, teach them their instincts are worthless in "true form" math nad that they have to rely on the rules they learned in class.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 14 2014 01:33 GMT
#39164
its more confusing in the sense that "a set can be both closed and open" or "the negative transcendental number to the power of an imaginary number times another transcendtal number is 1"
you cant always interpret things in the correct way that makes sense to you but showing things that are flat out wrong seems dumb
anyway like 95%+ of people arent going to study much if any maths in post secondary so it seems dumb to confuse everyone and put them off early
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 01:47:07
May 14 2014 01:39 GMT
#39165
On May 14 2014 10:23 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 10:18 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2014 10:14 Slayer91 wrote:
there also can't be a 12, 6, 9 right triangle, whats your point?
if it was a right triangle we wouldn't need the other trinagle for anything because of pythagoras' theorem


So you're saying you instantly caught on to the picture being misleading because the second triangle was there at all? My instinct was just that there was extra information present(or that the kids don't know Pythag's yet), but that I would still just solve it that way. It wasn't until I realized that working in either direction(3:2 or 2:3) worked with pythag's that I considered the picture was incredibly retarded and neither are right triangles.

Maybe you're just more intelligent than me, I suppose that's what you're fishing for.


everything about the question is incredibly retarded though
you will never take a college class where people draw right triangles and then go LOL BUT I DIDNT DRAW THE RETARDED L THING IN THE CORNER BAITED BROHAN
diagrams are a useful aid for solving problems and drawing bad diagrams on purpose is just all around retarded
you defended the question as teaching critical thinking the only thing the problem teaches is how to cross multiply fractions and ignore things that you shouldn't ignore in any other situation where you have to solve with less numerical information but more geometric or other information


I wasn't trying to defend the question really, that's just how my reply to Aus came out(since he was discussing the questions merits as a pure math question forcing you to fight your intuitive processes). I actually agree with you in regards to diagrams/drawings and their use in a question.

On May 14 2014 10:29 Scip wrote:
I was like "red can't get that 6 9 12 isn't a right triangle" and he was like


I don't appreciate you spreading false information.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
May 14 2014 01:48 GMT
#39166
On May 14 2014 10:00 Frudgey wrote:
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On May 14 2014 09:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
On May 14 2014 09:34 Frudgey wrote:
On May 14 2014 09:30 kainzero wrote:
On May 14 2014 09:18 nafta wrote:
On May 14 2014 09:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Somebody please explain Twitch to me.
How in the hell do people have the disposable income to throw $100 at a time at people streaming who you could watch for free, and who are doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING BUT PLAYING GAMES THEY'D BE PLAYING ANYWAY

People doing speedruns, people playing Isaac, DotA, LoL....I get following so if you like a guy for whatever reason you can see when he/she gets online and shit but subscribing/donating...I dunno I guess I'm just cheap or something but I don't get it.

People have money and they want to support what they like.

maybe wave is mad because no one likes him

Hey I like Wave. I just don't watch his streams at all because he doesn't stream anything that I care to watch.

He still has a sexy awesome voice though.

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Hey sweet I'm a Firebat now. Slammin'

I forget if you answered this, but what DO you like?
All I remember is the stuff you don't

You did ask me this and I DID respond. It was a nice and long answer too, I'm glad it made such an impression.

;_;

Basically when it comes to things that I watch, I'd put myself down for mostly fighting games and Warhammer 40k Dawn of War II replays. I'll watch other things as well, but those are the ones I watch the most.

Of course the things that I watch and the things that I play are two different categories. I'll happily watch someone play some game that I do play, but I do like watching fighting games and DoWII because I suck at fighting games and the caster for DoWII replays is probably the best caster I've ever seen. Ever.

lol I kinda don't feel bad because I don't remember that as being your answer.
Yeah so you really don't like anything I play haha
You should just watch my stream to hang out with the other TLers and make fun of me

In other news, a really good friend of mine just got engaged so I'm off to New York (Manhattan I think) at some point in the future! Who wants to hang?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 14 2014 01:48 GMT
#39167
On May 14 2014 10:30 LaNague wrote:
i think its good that the teacher confronts the students with the "worst case".


Also, math in its "true form" (university stuff) is always at least as confusing as this little geometry exercise.
usually in highschool you dont get into contact with that shit since all you do is boring calculus.
I think its a good idea to let people have a taste of it, teach them their instincts are worthless in "true form" math nad that they have to rely on the rules they learned in class.

Nah, intuition is a pretty big part of math.
It's just that you have to get used to the structures enough that your intuition points you in the right direction. And then you have to actually prove that your intuition was right.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 01:56:57
May 14 2014 01:50 GMT
#39168
3 way tiebreakers in American Qualifier group stage, on TS if anyone wants to watch together(and if you don't want to watch with me on TS, you should totally just watch anyways, it should be pretty hype).

Linky:Should be on this stream.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 14 2014 01:52 GMT
#39169
On May 14 2014 10:50 red_ wrote:
3 way tiebreakers in American Qualifier group stage, on TS if anyone wants to watch together(and if you don't want to watch with me on TS, you should totally just watch anyways, it should be pretty hype).

I thought the NA team for Worlds gets picked at the end of Summer split?
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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
May 14 2014 01:55 GMT
#39170
red is referring to dota2 and the NA qualis for TI4
Hey! Listen!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 14 2014 01:57 GMT
#39171
On May 14 2014 10:23 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 10:18 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2014 10:14 Slayer91 wrote:
there also can't be a 12, 6, 9 right triangle, whats your point?
if it was a right triangle we wouldn't need the other trinagle for anything because of pythagoras' theorem


So you're saying you instantly caught on to the picture being misleading because the second triangle was there at all? My instinct was just that there was extra information present(or that the kids don't know Pythag's yet), but that I would still just solve it that way. It wasn't until I realized that working in either direction(3:2 or 2:3) worked with pythag's that I considered the picture was incredibly retarded and neither are right triangles.

Maybe you're just more intelligent than me, I suppose that's what you're fishing for.


everything about the question is incredibly retarded though
you will never take a college class where people draw right triangles and then go LOL BUT I DIDNT DRAW THE RETARDED L THING IN THE CORNER BAITED BROHAN
diagrams are a useful aid for solving problems and drawing bad diagrams on purpose is just all around retarded
you defended the question as teaching critical thinking the only thing the problem teaches is how to cross multiply fractions and ignore things that you shouldn't ignore in any other situation where you have to solve with less numerical information but more geometric or other information

I now desperately want to draw a triangle and then scream BAITED BROHAN
Bronze player stuck in platinum
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 14 2014 01:59 GMT
#39172
On May 14 2014 10:57 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 10:23 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 14 2014 10:18 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2014 10:14 Slayer91 wrote:
there also can't be a 12, 6, 9 right triangle, whats your point?
if it was a right triangle we wouldn't need the other trinagle for anything because of pythagoras' theorem


So you're saying you instantly caught on to the picture being misleading because the second triangle was there at all? My instinct was just that there was extra information present(or that the kids don't know Pythag's yet), but that I would still just solve it that way. It wasn't until I realized that working in either direction(3:2 or 2:3) worked with pythag's that I considered the picture was incredibly retarded and neither are right triangles.

Maybe you're just more intelligent than me, I suppose that's what you're fishing for.


everything about the question is incredibly retarded though
you will never take a college class where people draw right triangles and then go LOL BUT I DIDNT DRAW THE RETARDED L THING IN THE CORNER BAITED BROHAN
diagrams are a useful aid for solving problems and drawing bad diagrams on purpose is just all around retarded
you defended the question as teaching critical thinking the only thing the problem teaches is how to cross multiply fractions and ignore things that you shouldn't ignore in any other situation where you have to solve with less numerical information but more geometric or other information

I now desperately want to draw a triangle and then scream BAITED BROHAN


There's probably something close enough on imgur, but do care enough to find it?(no)
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
May 14 2014 02:02 GMT
#39173
It's funny how different GD and BTS are. BTS guys are being serious in a studio, giving actual analysis. GD guys are basically lounging around shooting the shit. The kitten cam on GD's stream is pretty adorable.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 14 2014 02:08 GMT
#39174
On May 14 2014 11:02 caelym wrote:
It's funny how different GD and BTS are. BTS guys are being serious in a studio, giving actual analysis. GD guys are basically lounging around shooting the shit. The kitten cam on GD's stream is pretty adorable.


I don't know who runs BTS so I can't say on their end, but GDStudio is 100% an extension of 2GDs personality.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 14 2014 02:08 GMT
#39175
Don't know how into the EDM scene everyone here is, but Porter Robinson put a track out that's going on his EP/Album/Compilation from later this year and it's fantastic.

https://soundcloud.com/edmmahineexclusive/porter-robinson-sad-machine-edm-machine-exclusive
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 14 2014 02:12 GMT
#39176
Can you guys explain to me why everyone is so salty towards Liquid on Reddit right now? And did they qualify for TI or not?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 14 2014 02:15 GMT
#39177
On May 14 2014 11:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Can you guys explain to me why everyone is so salty towards Liquid on Reddit right now? And did they qualify for TI or not?


People are questioning whether or not they threw their final match on purpose to force the 3 way tiebreaker(which could potentially eliminate SNA, who was considered a competitor for top2, but underperformed). They basically played the game like a pub(Radiance Treant).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
May 14 2014 02:16 GMT
#39178
On May 14 2014 11:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Can you guys explain to me why everyone is so salty towards Liquid on Reddit right now? And did they qualify for TI or not?



Pretty distasteful from Liquid, having Demon carry and just generally not caring about this game, when it has huge influence over playoffs.

Basicly, DeMoN used to play carry for EG, now plays support. They were already locked for top 4, and could have potentially dicked someone out of top 4.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 14 2014 02:22 GMT
#39179
On May 14 2014 11:15 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 11:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Can you guys explain to me why everyone is so salty towards Liquid on Reddit right now? And did they qualify for TI or not?


People are questioning whether or not they threw their final match on purpose to force the 3 way tiebreaker(which could potentially eliminate SNA, who was considered a competitor for top2, but underperformed). They basically played the game like a pub(Radiance Treant).
Has Liquid qualified? Would this game have affected their qualifications if they havent?

Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 14 2014 02:29 GMT
#39180
On May 14 2014 11:22 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 11:15 red_ wrote:
On May 14 2014 11:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Can you guys explain to me why everyone is so salty towards Liquid on Reddit right now? And did they qualify for TI or not?


People are questioning whether or not they threw their final match on purpose to force the 3 way tiebreaker(which could potentially eliminate SNA, who was considered a competitor for top2, but underperformed). They basically played the game like a pub(Radiance Treant).
Has Liquid qualified? Would this game have affected their qualifications if they havent?



Liquid is secured top2(winners bracket final birth), which is why I think throw accusations are just stupid(I really don't think they fear/hate SNA enough to do that). It's still debatable how their actions were/weren't disrespectful to the competition and whatnot though.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
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