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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
August 25 2013 16:47 GMT
#221
The lag wouldn't be that terrible, it is about 200-230 ping, but my NA account is lvl2, so someone would have to lend me an account. If anyone is willing to do that, I can participate in a few games.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
August 25 2013 17:03 GMT
#222
On August 25 2013 23:56 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 22:10 Scip wrote:
The thing about people constantly giving bad advice and being respected, it kinda makes me want to not post anything. It's not just a masturbatory thing, where I would like to be appreciated for good advice, but giving advice just doesn't feel particularly helpful, because it oftentimes gets drowned in shit.


I think you underestimate the amount of readers that will read something that a respected member of the forum posts, but not actually respond to - they'll just think "hmm, that is interesting, maybe i'll try it out," or whatever. Like anyone who has been on this fourm for awhile knows who the good posters are and follows what they say.



This is basically me. When someone posts something stupid and doesn't listen to reason I find it rather easy to ignore and take in the more pertinent information from forum veterans.

+ Show Spoiler [ramble] +
I think the discussion around stupid ideas can be important: simpler stupid things can be taken care of by semi-vets and for complex stupid things vets can step in and educate newbies, readers, and semi-vets all. If demoralized vets pull out of GD things can only get worse, it's a brain drain. There is certainly room for more elitist jerks style banning here where if you post something super stupid and don't back it up or refuse to back it up you get banned. But that will only work if vets are willing to engage in GD discussions as a result.

Talking about vets vs stupid though has me thinking about when zulu_nation was arguing back when T.R.O.L.L.S. started and even before that, that newbies just can't possibly understand the game the way pros do and so pros can't really explain it to them. I think in some ways he's right but at the same time my favorite discussions have come from high level analysis that simply blew my mind wide open to stuff I'd never thought about before, regardless of my ability to understand it, like when I first discovered the pro-scene and day9 dailies back in BW. I know day9 got his share of criticism but watching him was far cooler than giving up and saying "well I'm a terrible newbie so I can only appreciate the pretty lights".
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 25 2013 18:02 GMT
#223
I've mostly enjoy Fire Emblem: Awakening, but now I'm on the Endgame.

AND FUCK. THAT. LAST. LEVEL.

Seriously?! Neverending reinforcements with a nearly unkillable commander?! PLS DIE.

I cruised through levels 20-25 and now the last one is KICKING ME IN THE BALLS.

BACK TO LEVEL GRINDING I GUESS.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
August 25 2013 18:07 GMT
#224
What difficulty are you on and who are you using?
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 19:29:35
August 25 2013 18:12 GMT
#225
On August 26 2013 03:07 Frudgey wrote:
What difficulty are you on and who are you using?


Hard/Classic, so it's moderately tough. I'll edit in a bit with my character list.

Edit: Chrom, <Main Character>, Libra, Lissa, Severa, Vaike, Say'ri, Gregor, Lon'qu, Frederick, Maribelle, Cordelia, Anna, Kellam, Gaius, and Basilio.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
August 25 2013 19:59 GMT
#226
Oi that's a lot of people you're using!
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
August 25 2013 20:54 GMT
#227
On August 26 2013 04:59 Frudgey wrote:
Oi that's a lot of people you're using!


That's what they give me!
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
August 25 2013 21:28 GMT
#228
On August 26 2013 03:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 03:07 Frudgey wrote:
What difficulty are you on and who are you using?


Hard/Classic, so it's moderately tough. I'll edit in a bit with my character list.

Edit: Chrom, <Main Character>, Libra, Lissa, Severa, Vaike, Say'ri, Gregor, Lon'qu, Frederick, Maribelle, Cordelia, Anna, Kellam, Gaius, and Basilio.


You should get Roy and Marth on that team too.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
August 25 2013 21:36 GMT
#229
The bigger question is why are you using Jagen?
Frudgey
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada3367 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 22:08:57
August 25 2013 22:03 GMT
#230
On August 26 2013 06:36 MCMilo wrote:
The bigger question is why are you using Jagen?


Dude Frederick is legit. Thanks to second seals you can literally use anyone in this game. That aside, Frederick actually has some pretty decent growths anyways. I wouldn't call him a Jeigen; He's more of an Oifey.
It is better to die for The Emperor than live for yourself.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 22:08:06
August 25 2013 22:06 GMT
#231
Jeigen > Jagen

pls

jeigens #1 always and forever
TranslatorBaa!
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 25 2013 22:29 GMT
#232
Yo Scip, I read what you post. The eve post was amazing and I've had great results and a lot of fun playing her after your post. Prior to reading your take on Eve I was failing miserably when I played her. I don't comment on good advice much because by the time I've tried it for myself the topics have moved on.

I'm not the only one.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
August 26 2013 00:12 GMT
#233
On August 26 2013 07:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Jeigen > Jagen

pls

jeigens #1 always and forever


It's not Jeigan. His name is obviously Marcus
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 26 2013 03:54 GMT
#234
200-230 is playable, i do it all the time
Useless wet fish.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 26 2013 04:13 GMT
#235
On August 26 2013 09:12 Dark_Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 07:06 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Jeigen > Jagen

pls

jeigens #1 always and forever


It's not Jeigan. His name is obviously Marcus


apparently in the new advanced chogosu system of fe character classifications, there's a new class of characters who are better than jeigens

marcus apparently belongs in that category

marcus was a bro too needed him to put in so much work to s rank hhm
TranslatorBaa!
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
August 26 2013 06:54 GMT
#236
And thus my summer comes to an end. Funny thing was I think I spent more time writing about League than I did playing it.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
August 26 2013 07:18 GMT
#237
On August 26 2013 15:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
And thus my summer comes to an end. Funny thing was I think I spent more time writing about League than I did playing it.


Be serious. As if any of us actually play League. hah.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 26 2013 07:27 GMT
#238
On August 26 2013 16:18 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 15:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
And thus my summer comes to an end. Funny thing was I think I spent more time writing about League than I did playing it.


Be serious. As if any of us actually play League. hah.

I'm just here for the Costco pizza and vodka
liftlift > tsm
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
August 26 2013 07:37 GMT
#239
On August 25 2013 23:56 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2013 22:10 Scip wrote:
The thing about people constantly giving bad advice and being respected, it kinda makes me want to not post anything. It's not just a masturbatory thing, where I would like to be appreciated for good advice, but giving advice just doesn't feel particularly helpful, because it oftentimes gets drowned in shit.


I think you underestimate the amount of readers that will read something that a respected member of the forum posts, but not actually respond to - they'll just think "hmm, that is interesting, maybe i'll try it out," or whatever. Like anyone who has been on this fourm for awhile knows who the good posters are and follows what they say.



This js so true it hurts. jonnyLaw also mentioned how by the Time you read everything it is too late to really respond.

I still encourage more people to give thanks to those who give advice. even if you are just s lurker.

I just find it difficult to have intelligent discussions when I can't play the game, so all my theories are exactly that - theories.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 26 2013 07:38 GMT
#240
Why go through the effort of playing when you can watch other's do it on Twitch, amirite guys?
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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