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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
June 23 2025 06:23 GMT
#121
On June 23 2025 02:29 SHODAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2025 02:10 TeamMamba wrote:
Now we can put gumiho deserve a spot yo EWC to rest.

He was simply not good enough. Same with all the other Koreans who didn’t made it

All the Koreans that should be in EWC has already qualified.

Gumi got robbed by the patchtoss imba. make zealot, a-move, storm your own units over and over again. no problem! toss can simultaneously mass expand and defend harass effortlessly with shield batteries while playing with disposable, easy-to-use armies. meanwhile, terran has to take massive risks and break their wrists just for the privilege of playing to lategame. the game is in this sorry condition so that the balance council clowns can feel good about themselves!

Death. Taxes. People complaining whenever Protoss wins a game.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3512 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-23 14:13:17
June 23 2025 14:10 GMT
#122
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.
TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
262 Posts
June 23 2025 17:38 GMT
#123
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort

Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
June 24 2025 09:19 GMT
#124
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.
WriterMaru
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1451 Posts
June 24 2025 10:03 GMT
#125
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
June 24 2025 11:38 GMT
#126
On June 24 2025 19:03 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.

I guess dragging a game for as long as possible when the opponent is playing at 4am+ is a winning strategy regardless of race. He could have ended the game safely very early on but it looked like he had no intention of doing so
WriterMaru
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1328 Posts
June 24 2025 12:33 GMT
#127
On June 24 2025 20:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 19:03 MJG wrote:
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.

I guess dragging a game for as long as possible when the opponent is playing at 4am+ is a winning strategy regardless of race. He could have ended the game safely very early on but it looked like he had no intention of doing so


This will probably be an unpopular take, buuut: If the game was that over, Gumiho could have just attacked himself and left if the time was a concern of his. It isn't particular uncommon that players sometimes leave a game a bit prematurely, just to conserve energy and motivation for the rest of the series.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13011 Posts
June 24 2025 12:47 GMT
#128
On June 24 2025 21:33 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 20:38 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 19:03 MJG wrote:
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.

I guess dragging a game for as long as possible when the opponent is playing at 4am+ is a winning strategy regardless of race. He could have ended the game safely very early on but it looked like he had no intention of doing so


This will probably be an unpopular take, buuut: If the game was that over, Gumiho could have just attacked himself and left if the time was a concern of his. It isn't particular uncommon that players sometimes leave a game a bit prematurely, just to conserve energy and motivation for the rest of the series.

I was talking about the game versus Ryung on Ley Lines
WriterMaru
TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
262 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-24 13:18:03
June 24 2025 13:14 GMT
#129
On June 24 2025 20:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 19:03 MJG wrote:
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.

I guess dragging a game for as long as possible when the opponent is playing at 4am+ is a winning strategy regardless of race. He could have ended the game safely very early on but it looked like he had no intention of doing so


I could make the argument for the other side as well

If you know the game is over, you should leave instead. Just like most people hated the “fantasy gg timing”. Dragging the game when he already lost long time ago.

At the end, both players are entitled to play the game how they want and end on their terms

4am + is not an excuse. Gumiho and ryung just ain’t good enough to qualify. These are pros and they know how to adjust their time schedule. Scarlett already mentioned this is a post on TL couple years ago.



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