• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:48
CET 00:48
KST 08:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros9[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win52025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed
Tourneys
Kirktown Chat Brawl #9 $50 8:30PM EST 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review Ladder Map Matchup Stats BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
KPDH "Golden" as Squid Game…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1756 users

EWC 2025 Online Qualifiers (May 28-June 1, June 21-22) - P…

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
128 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1321 Posts
June 23 2025 06:23 GMT
#121
On June 23 2025 02:29 SHODAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2025 02:10 TeamMamba wrote:
Now we can put gumiho deserve a spot yo EWC to rest.

He was simply not good enough. Same with all the other Koreans who didn’t made it

All the Koreans that should be in EWC has already qualified.

Gumi got robbed by the patchtoss imba. make zealot, a-move, storm your own units over and over again. no problem! toss can simultaneously mass expand and defend harass effortlessly with shield batteries while playing with disposable, easy-to-use armies. meanwhile, terran has to take massive risks and break their wrists just for the privilege of playing to lategame. the game is in this sorry condition so that the balance council clowns can feel good about themselves!

Death. Taxes. People complaining whenever Protoss wins a game.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-23 14:13:17
June 23 2025 14:10 GMT
#122
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.
TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
134 Posts
June 23 2025 17:38 GMT
#123
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort

Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
June 24 2025 09:19 GMT
#124
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.
WriterMaru
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1321 Posts
June 24 2025 10:03 GMT
#125
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
June 24 2025 11:38 GMT
#126
On June 24 2025 19:03 MJG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.

I guess dragging a game for as long as possible when the opponent is playing at 4am+ is a winning strategy regardless of race. He could have ended the game safely very early on but it looked like he had no intention of doing so
WriterMaru
Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1227 Posts
June 24 2025 12:33 GMT
#127
On June 24 2025 20:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 19:03 MJG wrote:
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.

I guess dragging a game for as long as possible when the opponent is playing at 4am+ is a winning strategy regardless of race. He could have ended the game safely very early on but it looked like he had no intention of doing so


This will probably be an unpopular take, buuut: If the game was that over, Gumiho could have just attacked himself and left if the time was a concern of his. It isn't particular uncommon that players sometimes leave a game a bit prematurely, just to conserve energy and motivation for the rest of the series.
"Wenn die Zauberin runter geht, dann macht sie die Beine breit" - Khaldor, trying to cast WC3 German-only
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
June 24 2025 12:47 GMT
#128
On June 24 2025 21:33 Balnazza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 20:38 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 19:03 MJG wrote:
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.

I guess dragging a game for as long as possible when the opponent is playing at 4am+ is a winning strategy regardless of race. He could have ended the game safely very early on but it looked like he had no intention of doing so


This will probably be an unpopular take, buuut: If the game was that over, Gumiho could have just attacked himself and left if the time was a concern of his. It isn't particular uncommon that players sometimes leave a game a bit prematurely, just to conserve energy and motivation for the rest of the series.

I was talking about the game versus Ryung on Ley Lines
WriterMaru
TeamMamba
Profile Joined June 2025
134 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-24 13:18:03
June 24 2025 13:14 GMT
#129
On June 24 2025 20:38 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2025 19:03 MJG wrote:
On June 24 2025 18:19 Poopi wrote:
On June 24 2025 02:38 TeamMamba wrote:
On June 23 2025 23:10 tigera6 wrote:
The way Astrea slow-play thing even when hes securely ahead is tilting if I were his opponent, damn. I am watching him playing against Clem in Wardi tournament and there was no reason for dragging it. To be fair Clem also disconnect or something.


I think it was a fantastic way to play especially against gumiho is game 1. Slowly picked gumiho apart, once gumiho lost his 6k/3k bank. He just tried to A move his Thor army as a last resort


Against Gumiho it was valid, but the game vs Ryung where Astrea had like 20k/10k in bank and just wouldn't try to end the game was imo bad manner even for the viewers.

Attacking is the easiest and most consistent way of throwing when playing Protoss.

I guess dragging a game for as long as possible when the opponent is playing at 4am+ is a winning strategy regardless of race. He could have ended the game safely very early on but it looked like he had no intention of doing so


I could make the argument for the other side as well

If you know the game is over, you should leave instead. Just like most people hated the “fantasy gg timing”. Dragging the game when he already lost long time ago.

At the end, both players are entitled to play the game how they want and end on their terms

4am + is not an excuse. Gumiho and ryung just ain’t good enough to qualify. These are pros and they know how to adjust their time schedule. Scarlett already mentioned this is a post on TL couple years ago.



Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #54
CranKy Ducklings69
Liquipedia
The PiG Daily
20:00
Best Games of SC
herO vs Clem
Solar vs Clem
Zoun vs Spirit
Clem vs MaxPax
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft475
Nathanias 102
Dota 2
capcasts304
League of Legends
Cuddl3bear7
Counter-Strike
Foxcn211
adren_tv21
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor167
Other Games
summit1g9179
Grubby2771
FrodaN2716
C9.Mang0257
Liquid`Hasu195
KnowMe137
Skadoodle87
ArmadaUGS40
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1449
StarCraft 2
angryscii 19
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 76
• RyuSc2 51
• davetesta31
• musti20045 27
• Adnapsc2 11
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21245
League of Legends
• Doublelift5390
Other Games
• imaqtpie1051
• WagamamaTV269
• tFFMrPink 13
Upcoming Events
Epic.LAN
12h 12m
BSL Team A[vengers]
14h 12m
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
LAN Event
14h 12m
BSL 21
19h 12m
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 14h
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
LAN Event
1d 15h
BSL 21
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.