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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
August 18 2024 17:30 GMT
#1281
On August 19 2024 02:28 stilt wrote:
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On August 19 2024 02:26 JJH777 wrote:
Damn a gg with 8k/3k bank. I don't even necessarily think it was wrong but has that ever happened before in a premier tournament?


Pretty sure there are some pvz with such outcome during the infested terran area


I remember the one with Stats where he had like 20k but I think that was just an online cup. Not sure it's ever happened in an event with real stakes.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
August 18 2024 17:30 GMT
#1282
On August 19 2024 02:29 Glorfindel1989 wrote:
For me who has been away for a long time, how good would 10 Swarm Hosts going in and out from Nyduses been in that game?

Likely a waste of supply
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18134 Posts
August 18 2024 17:30 GMT
#1283
On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost?

Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard

Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro.


The good old "kill him before he gets there".

Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10094 Posts
August 18 2024 17:31 GMT
#1284
i hope all players go to the main stage and lift Clem in to the air. what a tournament he is playing
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
HeroSandro
Profile Joined July 2019
532 Posts
August 18 2024 17:31 GMT
#1285
On August 19 2024 02:30 Hider wrote:
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On August 19 2024 02:27 HeroSandro wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:26 Hider wrote:
GGing with 8k/3k bank. Yes feels like Serral has given up. Expecting an all-in in game 5.

There was nothing he coukd do against that army. The game was over before the fight. Clem is having the tournament of his life.


It was over, but compare this to his loss vs Maru where didn't leave despite it being even more over for such a long time. In every other situation against any other player he would not have left there with there with this bank. He would have confidnece in his own micro to potentially turn it around.

Clem was almost at Serrals natural. It was gg.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
August 18 2024 17:31 GMT
#1286
Revenge for those 4-0 finals towards Maru.
Please take a map Serral, make this a series
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3443 Posts
August 18 2024 17:31 GMT
#1287
On August 19 2024 02:29 Captain Peabody wrote:
I think Artosis is right, Clem does actually look like he's playing better than anyone ever has--the speed, execution, precision, and strategy are all just there

Well, there is still TvT that he need to improve upon, but he certainly has become the best TvZ player ever.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
August 18 2024 17:32 GMT
#1288
On August 19 2024 02:30 tigera6 wrote:
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On August 19 2024 02:28 Azzur wrote:
When Serral crushes Maru, I'm sure all the Maru fanboys will be crying imbalance

Not when Maru keep dying to early Roach attack like he did, nor when he nonchalantly doing Medivac drop against a max out army of Zerg. What Clem did here was perfect lategame execution, simple as that.

Yep, my point is that it's all about Clem's skill, not imbalance
SamirDuran
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines895 Posts
August 18 2024 17:32 GMT
#1289
holy fck looks like this will be 4:0, 4:0 and 5:0 after all
Don't practice until you can get it right, practice until you can't get it wrong.
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
August 18 2024 17:32 GMT
#1290
Clem can win as many games as he wants against Serral, but nothing can stop Ryung from taking a map off him after some weird raven tank push
Year of MaxPax
Starcloud
Profile Joined September 2018
138 Posts
August 18 2024 17:32 GMT
#1291
On August 19 2024 02:27 Supter wrote:
Honestly the people crying about balance right now are just straight up insulting how absolutely insane Clem is playing right now. That's one of the best performance ever by anyone, in terms of decision making, transitions, map play, macro and micro, and we get way too many "lol terran op".


Have you ever been in a thread where Maru loses to a zerg in a tournament ???

Clem is playing like absolute GOD and definitely deserves this win.

You can of course enlighten us, how you counter the terran with this composition with infinite scans and ghost basically countering every zerg endgame unit.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
August 18 2024 17:33 GMT
#1292
On August 19 2024 02:30 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost?

Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard

Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro.


The good old "kill him before he gets there".

Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here.

Serral is the only one to destroy Maru regularly with burrowed Infestors and Dark does it to everyone not named Maru, so burrowed Infestors are the problem?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
August 18 2024 17:33 GMT
#1293
On August 19 2024 02:28 Charoisaur wrote:
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On August 19 2024 02:26 Blitzball04 wrote:
Hope they finally nerf ghosts just like how they nerfed the infestor after the tournament

Ghosts really is an embarrassing unit that counter everything Zerg and Protoss throws at them

Ahahaha the salt is hilarious


Good to see you come out of your hole after crying how Maru got wrecked lol haha

Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
August 18 2024 17:34 GMT
#1294
On August 19 2024 02:32 Starcloud wrote:
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On August 19 2024 02:27 Supter wrote:
Honestly the people crying about balance right now are just straight up insulting how absolutely insane Clem is playing right now. That's one of the best performance ever by anyone, in terms of decision making, transitions, map play, macro and micro, and we get way too many "lol terran op".


Have you ever been in a thread where Maru loses to a zerg in a tournament ???

Clem is playing like absolute GOD and definitely deserves this win.

You can of course enlighten us, how you counter the terran with this composition with infinite scans and ghost basically countering every zerg endgame unit.

Well, he beat Maru in that situation. So, like that
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Telephone
Profile Joined October 2010
United States143 Posts
August 18 2024 17:34 GMT
#1295
I really wish this tournament would have had more open qualifier spots and less welfare region spots. It sucks not having Bunny or Rogue or DRG or Nightmare, all of whom are probably better than for example Coffee, Showtime, Spirit.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18134 Posts
August 18 2024 17:34 GMT
#1296
On August 19 2024 02:33 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:30 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost?

Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard

Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro.


The good old "kill him before he gets there".

Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here.

Serral is the only one to destroy Maru regularly with burrowed Infestors and Dark does it to everyone not named Maru, so burrowed Infestors are the problem?

Maybe. They've already gotten nerfed 3 times now, so the zerg cabal seems to think so
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
August 18 2024 17:35 GMT
#1297
On August 19 2024 02:34 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:33 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:30 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:26 Sent. wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:25 Acrofales wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:21 Charoisaur wrote:
On August 19 2024 02:18 Acrofales wrote:
Is there any late-game zerg unit that isn't countered by ghost?

Not this again, Serral is getting outplayed hard

Yes, but what should he have done here? Ghosts seem impossible to deal with when you have Clem level micro.


The good old "kill him before he gets there".

Maybe, and it's fair to just say that Clem is a step ahead of Serral at the moment and there is no counter to Clem. If nobody else is able to do what Clem does with ghosts, then that's fair. But Maru does it to zergs who aren't Serral, so it's fair to say that ghosts are a problem here.

Serral is the only one to destroy Maru regularly with burrowed Infestors and Dark does it to everyone not named Maru, so burrowed Infestors are the problem?

Maybe. They've already gotten nerfed 3 times now, so the zerg cabal seems to think so

Same as Ghosts
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1797 Posts
August 18 2024 17:35 GMT
#1298
Serral is looking better ever game but it may be too late
Blitzball04
Profile Joined June 2024
191 Posts
August 18 2024 17:35 GMT
#1299
On August 19 2024 02:32 Starcloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:27 Supter wrote:
Honestly the people crying about balance right now are just straight up insulting how absolutely insane Clem is playing right now. That's one of the best performance ever by anyone, in terms of decision making, transitions, map play, macro and micro, and we get way too many "lol terran op".


Have you ever been in a thread where Maru loses to a zerg in a tournament ???

Clem is playing like absolute GOD and definitely deserves this win.

You can of course enlighten us, how you counter the terran with this composition with infinite scans and ghost basically countering every zerg endgame unit.



Well Terran late game is op since 2010. They don’t need any scvs and can have free scans and have higher army.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26155 Posts
August 18 2024 17:36 GMT
#1300
On August 19 2024 02:31 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 02:29 Captain Peabody wrote:
I think Artosis is right, Clem does actually look like he's playing better than anyone ever has--the speed, execution, precision, and strategy are all just there

Well, there is still TvT that he need to improve upon, but he certainly has become the best TvZ player ever.

His peak is insane, I feel he needs to brutalise the majority of the Zerg field more consistently to get such an honour.

He can play like a god and step up a level, but frequently lose to players far below someone like Serral’s level too.

Quite odd really!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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