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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
August 18 2024 16:57 GMT
#1201
On August 19 2024 01:56 Penev wrote:
Take good care of your wrists please Clem, they're worth a lot.

OTOH aren't we fairly sure that this tournament is basically a last hurrah? From this perspective this is the best tournament there is to kill your wrists winning.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14463 Posts
August 18 2024 16:57 GMT
#1202
If Clem wins this also would help TL a lot on the Club Championship
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
UnLarva
Profile Joined March 2019
458 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-18 16:58:32
August 18 2024 16:58 GMT
#1203
Clem is dominating Serral like we've used to see from Serral vs the field.

This is the way to go, Clem! Pushing the limits further.

Saying it already: VERY Deserved victory Clem, GG!
Part-time Serralogist
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
August 18 2024 16:58 GMT
#1204
Someone needs to tell Serral to speed-dial Ryung and switch to terran
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
August 18 2024 16:58 GMT
#1205
Serral handily defeated Maru a couple of days ago and cleaned up Dark easily. But against Clem, he seems to be out of ideas. This shows that skill >>>> anything else
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
August 18 2024 16:58 GMT
#1206
Serral just doesn't seem to be making the right strategic calls, and micro execution, like why were those roaches going to corner themselves near the gas at the start, felt perfect for Clem to sandwich with scvs and win..

Feels like he is keeping up with Clem just about but maybe that's taking all his effort and focus away from the bigger picture.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-18 16:59:07
August 18 2024 16:58 GMT
#1207
On August 19 2024 01:53 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 01:43 Charoisaur wrote:
Just worry he can't keep this up. Bo9 is brutal

Nobody in SC2’s history has. The question with Clem was always could he more consistently deliver it, plus round out his TvT, the matchup where sheer speed is less of a win condition.

He reminds me of a tennis player who’s trying to hit winners off every shot. If they can nail it consistently they’ll blow you off the court, but it’s very high risk high reward stuff.

As I was typing this of course game 3 is maybe going in a direction where Clem doesn’t have to be quite as on-point


I felt on Clem he generally has been able to consistently outmicro his opponents. His micro was always very stable. However,
(a) not always to the extent he is doing this tournament
(b) Previously he would have other holes in his gameplay, e.g. weak to runbys or not having a plan-b.

It feels like he doesn't suffer from B anymore. He can be behind in a game, and still defend and be able to turn the game around through outplays. It felt in the past he didn't know how to defend when getting behind.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
August 18 2024 16:59 GMT
#1208
On August 19 2024 01:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 01:56 Penev wrote:
Take good care of your wrists please Clem, they're worth a lot.

OTOH aren't we fairly sure that this tournament is basically a last hurrah? From this perspective this is the best tournament there is to kill your wrists winning.

Good point if true, 400k is worth a bit of wrist pain. Hopefully there's some more to earn in the future though.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
FCHK
Profile Joined August 2020
203 Posts
August 18 2024 16:59 GMT
#1209
On August 19 2024 01:54 Lazzarus wrote:
Blizzcon 2018 ended a 20 year dynasty of Korean domination. If you told me in 2017 that the world championship in 2024 would be between two Europeans, I would have told you you were crazy.

Happened already at 2022 IEM Katowice
Starcloud
Profile Joined September 2018
138 Posts
August 18 2024 17:00 GMT
#1210
WTH.....Clem is playing like a GOD

Serral isnt playing even that badly, but is being stomped like a scrub in a laddergame, lol

Of course, its not the Prime Serral either unfortunately, which is what we would need to get more even series. Absolutely master class from Clem.

Go Serral, try to reach deep !
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
August 18 2024 17:00 GMT
#1211
On August 19 2024 01:58 Azzur wrote:
Serral handily defeated Maru a couple of days ago and cleaned up Dark easily. But against Clem, he seems to be out of ideas. This shows that skill >>>> anything else

This is more than just skill, Clem clearly studied Serral build habit and in both games 1 and 3 defend the Roach attack by going with 2-1-1 build and early stim. He would have died both times if he went for the standard 3CC 2 Banshee build.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-18 17:02:03
August 18 2024 17:00 GMT
#1212
On August 19 2024 01:55 True_Spike wrote:
Serral is geting outplayed so hard, wow

This all-in was poor, but then again, I'm not sure what other options there are on this mappool. On Ghost River the 4th is hard to hold, the 5th impossible and the 6th might as well not exist for Zerg. Macro play just isn't possible. I'm guessing the 3-base Ultra rush Serral did against Maru hits too late, or he just doesn't believe it can work against Clem. So that leaves Roaches. It's a 5-0 in the making, but losing Ghost River to one of the most aggressive players in the world after a failed rush is not unexpected.

That's not to say Clem isn't doing eveyrthing right. Killing the drone that's suppose to build the 3rd base should not happen.
allmotor1
Profile Joined December 2017
153 Posts
August 18 2024 17:01 GMT
#1213
this is what I expect to see in TvZ.

Punish the Z for doing roach attacks early, keep Z honest with multi drops and don't let zerg just eat the whole damn map with 90+ drones.

We used to see this quite alot, finally Clem is able to implement this again.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
August 18 2024 17:01 GMT
#1214
On August 19 2024 01:57 lolfail9001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 01:56 Penev wrote:
Take good care of your wrists please Clem, they're worth a lot.

OTOH aren't we fairly sure that this tournament is basically a last hurrah? From this perspective this is the best tournament there is to kill your wrists winning.


I think the rumours lately have been more positive about future big tournaments, honestly I don't think anyone knows either way.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10129 Posts
August 18 2024 17:02 GMT
#1215
i would like to know Marus opinion right now
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
August 18 2024 17:02 GMT
#1216
Btw, the level of innovations in this tournament is insane. I've never ever seen Terrans deny hatcheries like what Clem has done. Surely something that he practiced to gain an advantage
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
August 18 2024 17:03 GMT
#1217
On August 19 2024 01:50 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2024 01:46 Hider wrote:
It's impressive how good Clem really is. We look at Hero vs any terran and Hero seems much better than them. Then against Clem he is clearly a level below.

Then Serral - cannot lose to any other terran player - but against Clem he can't do anything.

It is like Artosis says - it's a whole new level of skill we never seen before.

On the other hand he's trading series back and forth with Ragnarok while Maru has never lost to Ragnarok in his life. It's really weird


The discrepancy of Clems TvZ vs Serral compared to his TvZ vs all other Zergs is odd. Maru has higher win rates vs basically every other Zerg besides Serral including Reynor but literally can't beat Serral while Clem occasionally has these brutal one sided series (though has an overall losing record) against him despite regularly dropping series to Zergs like Solar/Ragnarok and being 50-50 with Reynor.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18487 Posts
August 18 2024 17:04 GMT
#1218
Serral going for roaches again. Clem ready for it, again.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6333 Posts
August 18 2024 17:04 GMT
#1219
Clem simply has a better gaming chair.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
August 18 2024 17:04 GMT
#1220
On August 19 2024 02:02 Topin wrote:
i would like to know Marus opinion right now

My guess is Maru has seen how Clem does it, and just doesn’t feel he can replicate what he does in the matchup for whatever reason.

Perhaps he now knows how ‘just play like Maru’ felt like for other Terrans!
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