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darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3511 Posts
August 16 2024 20:35 GMT
#501
On August 17 2024 05:33 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2024 05:30 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2024 05:27 darklycid wrote:
On August 17 2024 05:26 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2024 05:21 Acrofales wrote:
Maru watched Clem yesterday, right? You gotta keep the pressure on. This is just letting Serral get away with murder.


I just don't think Maru matches up very well against Serral. Serral is simply better at everyting Maru is good at.

Clem at least is faster/can react faster - when he is on his A-game than Serral.

We'd need the Young Maru Here for that i feel.


Yeh its funny becasue today's Maru is the opposite of Maru today. Today Maru is very good at technical compositions - which does him well in TvT. But if you go technical vs techincal, Zerg wins vs terran.

In his early days he was the least-non technical player and more focused on going pure bio and outpacing opponents. Although players in general were so much worse - so playing fast paced with a spellcaster was not feasible given the skill level back then. If you just had a single spellcaster in your comp you had to play a very slow deathbally game.

The problem is all of Maru technical tool got nerfed during recent years, Ghost nerfed, Mines nerfed, Libs range nerfed. So he cant just play the same way he used to 2-3 years ago. And its not like he cant play like Clem or Oliveira, but its more like whether he wants to and willing to practice for it.

I mean i am Not Sure If He can still Play Like clem or Oli for a series If all we heard about him having injuries is true. Same reason as to why dark is playing so much roach zvt even tho He was an og ling bane (corruptor) master.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25467 Posts
August 16 2024 20:35 GMT
#502
On August 17 2024 05:29 Zzzapper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2024 05:26 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2024 05:21 Acrofales wrote:
Maru watched Clem yesterday, right? You gotta keep the pressure on. This is just letting Serral get away with murder.


I just don't think Maru matches up very well against Serral. Serral is simply better at everyting Maru is good at.

Clem at least is faster/can react faster - when he is on his A-game than Serral.

Definitely, Maru's problem is that their strengths are very similar but Serral has the edge overall.

Serral vs. Clem's matchup is much more asymmetrical and if Clem manages to keep the game in a state where he's favored, it looks like what we saw yesterday

I wonder if Maru just suffers from not having someone who plays like Serral, even close to his level to workshop some stuff between tournaments.

I mean he must know his current style doesn’t match up that well to Serral’s strengths, but he returns next tourney trying the same thing that didn’t work before
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
August 16 2024 20:35 GMT
#503
I can feel it. Maru is not gonna lose 40 scvs and 15 ghosts this time and give us a beautiful game!
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9200 Posts
August 16 2024 20:36 GMT
#504
Again, only light harass until 2/2. Why is Maru sooo passive
You're now breathing manually
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-16 20:38:33
August 16 2024 20:36 GMT
#505
On August 17 2024 05:26 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2024 05:21 Acrofales wrote:
Maru watched Clem yesterday, right? You gotta keep the pressure on. This is just letting Serral get away with murder.


I just don't think Maru matches up very well against Serral. Serral is simply better at everyting Maru is good at.

Clem at least is faster/can react faster - when he is on his A-game than Serral.

Fair, I don't think Maru can do what Clem can. But he can run reapers and hellions into serral's base while banshees fly in the back. He can do some marine drops. I mean... Clem shouldn't have gotten those ridiculous drone bbq shots, but 5 or 6 drones should be consistently doable. And just making Serral actually pay attention to defending on his side of the map instead of letting him get a 2-minute hive

E: also, creep spread. The pressure, as well as continuous scouting on the edge of creep kept creep really far back.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9390 Posts
August 16 2024 20:37 GMT
#506
On August 17 2024 05:36 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2024 05:26 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2024 05:21 Acrofales wrote:
Maru watched Clem yesterday, right? You gotta keep the pressure on. This is just letting Serral get away with murder.


I just don't think Maru matches up very well against Serral. Serral is simply better at everyting Maru is good at.

Clem at least is faster/can react faster - when he is on his A-game than Serral.

Fair, I don't think Maru can do what Clem can. But he can run reapers and hellions into serral's base while banshees fly in the back. He can do some marine drops. I mean... Clem shouldn't have gotten those ridiculous drone bbq shots, but 5 or 6 drones should be consistently doable. And just making Serral actually pay attention to defending on his side of the map instead of letting him get a 2-minute hive


But I also think the reason these opportunities can exist for Clem is that he plays fast. When you constantly challenge your opponent and look for opportunities, they are more likely to falter.
Zzzapper
Profile Joined September 2011
1796 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-16 20:46:16
August 16 2024 20:40 GMT
#507
On August 17 2024 05:35 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2024 05:29 Zzzapper wrote:
On August 17 2024 05:26 Hider wrote:
On August 17 2024 05:21 Acrofales wrote:
Maru watched Clem yesterday, right? You gotta keep the pressure on. This is just letting Serral get away with murder.


I just don't think Maru matches up very well against Serral. Serral is simply better at everyting Maru is good at.

Clem at least is faster/can react faster - when he is on his A-game than Serral.

Definitely, Maru's problem is that their strengths are very similar but Serral has the edge overall.

Serral vs. Clem's matchup is much more asymmetrical and if Clem manages to keep the game in a state where he's favored, it looks like what we saw yesterday

I wonder if Maru just suffers from not having someone who plays like Serral, even close to his level to workshop some stuff between tournaments.

I mean he must know his current style doesn’t match up that well to Serral’s strengths, but he returns next tourney trying the same thing that didn’t work before

There's probably some truth to that. Dark and Serral are like night and day.

At this point you've got to wonder if there isn't a mental aspect to it as well

Finally, we're getting a proper Maru game. I was scared when Serral started mining from 8 o'clock but he's slowly losing control, it seems
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-16 20:48:01
August 16 2024 20:45 GMT
#508
Why is Serral at 5k/3k but not getting +3 melee/ranged attack? He started it now. Just very weirdly late. He could've been fully upgraded for a while now. As well as starting on Ultras or Broods for a tech switch, which is also weirdly absent.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25467 Posts
August 16 2024 20:47 GMT
#509
On August 17 2024 05:45 Acrofales wrote:
Why is Serral at 5k/3k but not getting +3/+3?

Flexing.

Joking aside Maru might have crawled his way back into this one
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9200 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-16 20:48:37
August 16 2024 20:48 GMT
#510
On August 17 2024 05:45 Acrofales wrote:
Why is Serral at 5k/3k but not getting +3 melee/ranged attack?


That or even double spire ugprading for ultra late game. It's weird he just stopped investing in tech for so long.
You're now breathing manually
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9390 Posts
August 16 2024 20:49 GMT
#511
Maru looks.. good this game?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18004 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-16 20:51:29
August 16 2024 20:49 GMT
#512
On August 17 2024 05:47 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2024 05:45 Acrofales wrote:
Why is Serral at 5k/3k but not getting +3/+3?

Flexing.

Joking aside Maru might have crawled his way back into this one

Agreed. This is very very very wasteful by Serral. He got overconfident and sloppy.
E: and now Maru's bank is bigger than Serral's. Maru might actually have taken this!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 16 2024 20:54 GMT
#513
Army Serral is not peak Serral.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3398 Posts
August 16 2024 20:58 GMT
#514
On August 17 2024 05:49 Hider wrote:
Maru looks.. good this game?

Maru has always looks good when it got to this part of the game, the issue has been he couldnt get into it easily. And apparently this is the only way he can play against top Zerg.
Nasigil1
Profile Joined March 2024
114 Posts
August 16 2024 20:59 GMT
#515
I honestly don't know why Serral hasn't tapped out this game, he should've done so 5 mins ago and save some stamina for next game. This is a lost cause.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
August 16 2024 21:03 GMT
#516
On August 17 2024 05:59 Nasigil1 wrote:
I honestly don't know why Serral hasn't tapped out this game, he should've done so 5 mins ago and save some stamina for next game. This is a lost cause.

He knows Maru has wrist issues. No wrists = Serral wins.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 16 2024 21:04 GMT
#517
I mean, common, this is getting silly Serral.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-08-16 21:04:34
August 16 2024 21:04 GMT
#518
Serral inheriting Fantasy legacy for a minute. But hey, strategic wrist delay.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 16 2024 21:04 GMT
#519
One does not simply 11 0 Maru.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Solio
Profile Joined June 2016
France145 Posts
August 16 2024 21:04 GMT
#520
wooof he finally wins a map
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