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Zzzapper
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nojok
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Acrofales
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Acrofales
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geokilla
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DBooN
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On August 17 2024 05:20 nojok wrote: Maru playing 10 minutes no rush against zergs. The main problem seems to be serral also knowing exactly that is what Maru is gonna do. | ||
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Topin
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On August 17 2024 05:21 Acrofales wrote: Maru watched Clem yesterday, right? You gotta keep the pressure on. This is just letting Serral get away with murder. I just don't think Maru matches up very well against Serral. Serral is simply better at everyting Maru is good at. Clem at least is faster/can react faster - when he is on his A-game than Serral. | ||
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dysenterymd
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On August 17 2024 05:21 Acrofales wrote: Maru watched Clem yesterday, right? You gotta keep the pressure on. This is just letting Serral get away with murder. Maru is the best Terran in the world, but his skillset is different from Clem's. When non Clem Terrans try and pressure Serral, they often look silly. Not sure what the solution really is.In this game Maru seemed like he could've tried late game turtle Terran, but then he lost so many ghosts on creep. | ||
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darklycid
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On August 17 2024 05:26 Hider wrote: I just don't think Maru matches up very well against Serral. Serral is simply better at everyting Maru is good at. Clem at least is faster/can react faster - when he is on his A-game than Serral. We'd need the Young Maru Here for that i feel. | ||
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Captain Peabody
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Blitzball04
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Acrofales
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On August 17 2024 05:27 dysenterymd wrote: Maru is the best Terran in the world, but his skillset is different from Clem's. When non Clem Terrans try and pressure Serral, they often look silly. Not sure what the solution really is.In this game Maru seemed like he could've tried late game turtle Terran, but then he lost so many ghosts on creep. Before the ghost murder happened, Serral was also already just guzzling up the entire map. If he had tried to turtle harder, he would just have lost because Serral would've had the bank to just build 3 consecutive armies. | ||
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Zzzapper
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On August 17 2024 05:26 Hider wrote: I just don't think Maru matches up very well against Serral. Serral is simply better at everyting Maru is good at. Clem at least is faster/can react faster - when he is on his A-game than Serral. Definitely, Maru's problem is that their strengths are very similar but Serral has the edge overall. Serral vs. Clem's matchup is much more asymmetrical and if Clem manages to keep the game in a state where he's favored, it looks like what we saw yesterday | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
On August 17 2024 05:27 darklycid wrote: We'd need the Young Maru Here for that i feel. Yeh its funny becasue today's Maru is the opposite of Maru today. Today Maru is very good at technical compositions - which does him well in TvT. But if you go technical vs techincal, Zerg wins vs terran. In his early days he was the least-non technical player and more focused on going pure bio and outpacing opponents. Although players in general were so much worse - so playing fast paced with a spellcaster was not feasible given the skill level back then. If you just had a single spellcaster in your comp you had to play a very slow deathbally game. | ||
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dysenterymd
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On August 17 2024 05:28 Acrofales wrote: Before the ghost murder happened, Serral was also already just guzzling up the entire map. If he had tried to turtle harder, he would just have lost because Serral would've had the bank to just build 3 consecutive armies. Yeah he was in a bad position, but Maru can make ridiculous things happen with 5 base ghost mech. Getting a fifth base solidified would be hard and even that wouldn't ensure anything. Some sort of strong push that isn't fully all-in that allows Maru to transition to late game only a few bases behind is probably the best approach? But Serral has such good scouting and game sense that any committed pressure is dangerous. | ||
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nojok
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darklycid
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tigera6
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On August 17 2024 05:30 Hider wrote: Yeh its funny becasue today's Maru is the opposite of Maru today. Today Maru is very good at technical compositions - which does him well in TvT. But if you go technical vs techincal, Zerg wins vs terran. In his early days he was the least-non technical player and more focused on going pure bio and outpacing opponents. Although players in general were so much worse - so playing fast paced with a spellcaster was not feasible given the skill level back then. If you just had a single spellcaster in your comp you had to play a very slow deathbally game. The problem is all of Maru technical tool got nerfed during recent years, Ghost nerfed, Mines nerfed, Libs range nerfed. So he cant just play the same way he used to 2-3 years ago. And its not like he cant play like Clem or Oliveira, but its more like whether he wants to and willing to practice for it. | ||
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Zzzapper
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On August 17 2024 05:30 dysenterymd wrote: Yeah he was in a bad position, but Maru can make ridiculous things happen with 5 base ghost mech. Getting a fifth base solidified would be hard and even that wouldn't ensure anything. Some sort of strong push that isn't fully all-in that allows Maru to transition to late game only a few bases behind is probably the best approach? But Serral has such good scouting and game sense that any committed pressure is dangerous. I think in that particular spot, Maru sitting back and securing a 5th lets Serral mine way too much off the corner bases that need to be split or at least contested if the game goes late. Maru has had some unbelievably efficient turtle wins but he's not gonna make that happen 2 bases down against Serral | ||
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