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Balance whining will be moderated aggressively

-Wax
GoloSC2
Profile Joined August 2014
712 Posts
February 12 2023 20:23 GMT
#1681
amazing
"Code S > IEM > Super Tournament > Homestory Cup > Blizzcon/WESG > GSL vs The World > Invitational tournaments in China with Koreans > WCS events" - Rodya
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
February 12 2023 20:24 GMT
#1682
On February 13 2023 05:22 tigera6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:18 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:17 Monochromatic wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:15 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:13 swarminfestor wrote:
That was the worst TvT games I have seen from Maru. Obviously he did not practice much in TvT.

Btw Oliveira delivered good game overall. GG.

Its actually could be the map pool, like how Terran is mainly about positioning, so you need to understand the map to know where to put the seige, close the path, ect...It seems to me that Maru just didnt grab the whole thing, his army movement was just not accurate enough in that last game.


I thought he was worse than just not understanding the map pool. He just played sloppy and missed many of the free moves we typically see him do. Like missing the base in the last game or not diving on sieged tanks with medivacs.

That last game he did his best, I believe, you play enough TvT you will get out-positioned. But yeah, the other 3 game losses were just bad.

But he used to be the absolute master of the positioning game

I know, but even a master has down game as well, thats why I am okay with him dropping that last game like that. But the first 3 game he lost was pure shit. Now hes having more 2nd place even than Soo in his career.

Yeah that's why I'm okay with him losing. To win the world championship you need to be clutch, TIME was, Maru wasn't.
If Maru was playing at his best I think he would've won but that doesn't matter, with this performance he didn't deserve to win
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Shathe
Profile Joined July 2017
Hungary422 Posts
February 12 2023 20:24 GMT
#1683
He played insane in the playoffs. Outplayed everyone
Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 20:25:08
February 12 2023 20:24 GMT
#1684
On February 13 2023 05:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:22 Monochromatic wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:21 True_Spike wrote:
That has got to be the most amazing tournament run of all time in Starcraft. I've been a part of this community since 2000 and I haven't seen anything as impressive as this.


I'm trying to remember if there was ever a bigger upset and I'm coming up blank.

in Premier tournaments where the best of the worlds were competing, nothing comes close.


The only thing I can remotely think of was qXc all killing IM in GSTL. Obviously way less impactful though.
MC: "Guys I need your support! iam poor make me nerd baller" __________________________________________RIP Violet
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
February 12 2023 20:24 GMT
#1685
On February 13 2023 05:16 Creager wrote:
I'm positive now that Maru keeps his youthful appearance by siphoning off the hopes of his fans.


He's a five time GSL champion. Maybe his fans expect too much of him?

Speaking as a Protoss fan, I mean.
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
February 12 2023 20:24 GMT
#1686
I'm so happy for Oliveira. I knew he was good and that his TvZ was top notch, but I didn't expect him to win it. He went through a hell of a gauntlet too. What a story
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3835 Posts
February 12 2023 20:25 GMT
#1687
Holy shit i forgot AcE was the first champion haahaha. Beautiful lineage
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
February 12 2023 20:25 GMT
#1688
On February 13 2023 05:23 RYZmooN wrote:
Chinese translation (ish)
"Nothing is impossible, If I can win the world champion, you can do anything.
I waited for this world championship for way too long. Last year was really hard. I thought that my career was over after ___ tourney (didnt get it), that SC was over for me. But I told myself that if i practiced hard enough, that I could maybe win the world championship, that I can prove to every1"

Thank you for translation xoxo

What a great person. You can't help but like the guy!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3483 Posts
February 12 2023 20:25 GMT
#1689
On February 13 2023 05:24 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:22 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:20 Charoisaur wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:18 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:17 Monochromatic wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:15 tigera6 wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:13 swarminfestor wrote:
That was the worst TvT games I have seen from Maru. Obviously he did not practice much in TvT.

Btw Oliveira delivered good game overall. GG.

Its actually could be the map pool, like how Terran is mainly about positioning, so you need to understand the map to know where to put the seige, close the path, ect...It seems to me that Maru just didnt grab the whole thing, his army movement was just not accurate enough in that last game.


I thought he was worse than just not understanding the map pool. He just played sloppy and missed many of the free moves we typically see him do. Like missing the base in the last game or not diving on sieged tanks with medivacs.

That last game he did his best, I believe, you play enough TvT you will get out-positioned. But yeah, the other 3 game losses were just bad.

But he used to be the absolute master of the positioning game

I know, but even a master has down game as well, thats why I am okay with him dropping that last game like that. But the first 3 game he lost was pure shit. Now hes having more 2nd place even than Soo in his career.

Yeah that's why I'm okay with him losing. To win the world championship you need to be clutch, TIME was, Maru wasn't.
If Maru was playing at his best I think he would've won but that doesn't matter, with this performance he didn't deserve to win

Oh we both agree on that, I dont want to hear about how many more GSL Maru win after this terrible performance.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
February 12 2023 20:25 GMT
#1690
On February 13 2023 05:24 Monochromatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:22 Monochromatic wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:21 True_Spike wrote:
That has got to be the most amazing tournament run of all time in Starcraft. I've been a part of this community since 2000 and I haven't seen anything as impressive as this.


I'm trying to remember if there was ever a bigger upset and I'm coming up blank.

in Premier tournaments where the best of the worlds were competing, nothing comes close.


The only thing I can remotely think of was qXc all killing IM in GSTL. Obviously way less impactful thouse.


Has and Mana in 2018 were the second closest I could think of but those pale in comparison to Oliveira
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1923 Posts
February 12 2023 20:25 GMT
#1691
And now announce EPT for another year
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
February 12 2023 20:26 GMT
#1692
Oli played like a god.
My emotions are spent - best storyline in SC2 history.
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 12 2023 20:26 GMT
#1693
On February 13 2023 05:25 Creager wrote:
And now announce EPT for another year

I'm pretty confident EPT is continuing in some form because all the insiders are acting as if it's continuing, but confirmation sure would be nice...
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
Andi_Goldberger
Profile Joined July 2018
Germany1608 Posts
February 12 2023 20:26 GMT
#1694
On February 13 2023 05:25 Creager wrote:
And now announce EPT for another year

oh god please yes
~~~~~
Ickle
Profile Joined June 2021
1 Post
February 12 2023 20:26 GMT
#1695
It's crazy how much this mirrors soo's run, 2-3 in the group stage, beating the favourite (serral/reynor) in the ro8, beating hero (even 3-1) in the ro4. wow
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-12 20:27:24
February 12 2023 20:27 GMT
#1696
I don't think Oliveira will consider retiring after winning this championship. He may study abroad but keep playing like Polt and the rest.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
February 12 2023 20:27 GMT
#1697
On February 13 2023 05:25 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2023 05:24 Monochromatic wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:23 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:22 Monochromatic wrote:
On February 13 2023 05:21 True_Spike wrote:
That has got to be the most amazing tournament run of all time in Starcraft. I've been a part of this community since 2000 and I haven't seen anything as impressive as this.


I'm trying to remember if there was ever a bigger upset and I'm coming up blank.

in Premier tournaments where the best of the worlds were competing, nothing comes close.


The only thing I can remotely think of was qXc all killing IM in GSTL. Obviously way less impactful thouse.


Has and Mana in 2018 were the second closest I could think of but those pale in comparison to Oliveira

was thinking of duckdeok / Pigbaby / Stardust too, but that's miles away from the impact of that one
dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
February 12 2023 20:27 GMT
#1698
Now for the important question... did TIME win enough to break top 10 in aligulac?
Serral | Inno | sOs | soO | Has | Classic
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
February 12 2023 20:27 GMT
#1699
"Maybe the most memorable Katowice ever?" As someone who's only seen 2020-2023, I agree.
FF, KH, Persona, Uncharted, Yakuza | Porter, Illenium, MitiS, Dabin, Seven Lions, Petit Biscuit | Diablo II, SC2 | Pho, sushi, tacos
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3835 Posts
February 12 2023 20:27 GMT
#1700
Yay!
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
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