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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 01 2022 19:12 GMT
#101
On July 02 2022 04:11 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Solar just looked clueless

I don't think he's just looking the part. He's stagnating heavily.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24231 Posts
July 01 2022 19:12 GMT
#102
"novata cinqui lavoratori", dunno if I got that right, but sustaining those insane worker counts without problem was pivotal
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
July 01 2022 19:13 GMT
#103
Idk solar looks like someone stole his Gamesense in one night.
mark_lenders
Profile Joined July 2019
74 Posts
July 01 2022 19:15 GMT
#104
On July 02 2022 04:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:
"novata cinqui lavoratori", dunno if I got that right, but sustaining those insane worker counts without problem was pivotal


novantacinque :D
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24231 Posts
July 01 2022 19:16 GMT
#105
Scarlett DRG was a cheese, here it was rather straightforward PvZ domination. Has to be the best offrace performance
warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-01 19:18:02
July 01 2022 19:16 GMT
#106
reynor won that without needing to clear creep. it's as if the vision, map control, and speed buff from creep is useless against what reynor is doing.

i think creep should be changed to reduce movement speed of protoss, rather than buffing movement speed of zerg. at the minimum the recent creep nerfs (armored tag, growth rate, cancellable) should be reverted
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24231 Posts
July 01 2022 19:16 GMT
#107
On July 02 2022 04:15 mark_lenders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2022 04:12 [PkF] Wire wrote:
"novata cinqui lavoratori", dunno if I got that right, but sustaining those insane worker counts without problem was pivotal


novantacinque :D

ha ha thanks. It's surprising how much you actually understand if you know the game, French and a bit of latin.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 01 2022 19:17 GMT
#108
Solar didn't play great.
But let's be real, when has there ever been someone winning series (with macro games!) with their offrace in tournament play like this??
Insane stuff by Reynor.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24231 Posts
July 01 2022 19:18 GMT
#109
On July 02 2022 04:17 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Solar didn't play great.
But let's be real, when has there ever been someone winning series (with macro games!) with their offrace in tournament play like this??
Insane stuff by Reynor.

yeah ofc Solar played quite a poor series, but that's insane and unheard of
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
July 01 2022 19:19 GMT
#110
On July 02 2022 04:16 warnull wrote:
reynor won that without needing to clear creep. it's as if the vision, map control, and speed buff from creep is useless against what reynor is doing.

i think creep should be changed to reduce movement speed of protoss, rather than buffing movement speed of zerg. at the minimum the recent creep nerfs (armored tag, growth rate, cancellable) should be reverted

Yeah creep is quite useless if the toss waits for you to kill yourself.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 01 2022 19:20 GMT
#111
Solar plays like someone who's about to join the army.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ciaus_Dronu
Profile Joined June 2017
South Africa1848 Posts
July 01 2022 19:21 GMT
#112
Was Dark vs Special casted btw?
Seems like a shame for such a series to go missed (although I'm sure it was rough but still).
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
July 01 2022 19:22 GMT
#113
Maru looking fantastic but so many streams going on
WriterMaru
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 01 2022 19:22 GMT
#114
On July 02 2022 04:21 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:
Was Dark vs Special casted btw?
Seems like a shame for such a series to go missed (although I'm sure it was rough but still).

Only on the Spanish stream as far as I can tell.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
July 01 2022 19:23 GMT
#115
On July 02 2022 04:19 darklycid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2022 04:16 warnull wrote:
reynor won that without needing to clear creep. it's as if the vision, map control, and speed buff from creep is useless against what reynor is doing.

i think creep should be changed to reduce movement speed of protoss, rather than buffing movement speed of zerg. at the minimum the recent creep nerfs (armored tag, growth rate, cancellable) should be reverted

Yeah creep is quite useless if the toss waits for you to kill yourself.


by "kill yourself", do you mean throwing away ling/bane to damage protoss economy? because that's how zerg is supposed to counter high drone count gateway styles
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 01 2022 19:24 GMT
#116
On July 02 2022 04:23 warnull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2022 04:19 darklycid wrote:
On July 02 2022 04:16 warnull wrote:
reynor won that without needing to clear creep. it's as if the vision, map control, and speed buff from creep is useless against what reynor is doing.

i think creep should be changed to reduce movement speed of protoss, rather than buffing movement speed of zerg. at the minimum the recent creep nerfs (armored tag, growth rate, cancellable) should be reverted

Yeah creep is quite useless if the toss waits for you to kill yourself.


by "kill yourself", do you mean throwing away ling/bane to damage protoss economy? because that's how zerg is supposed to counter high drone count gateway styles

No he means throwing away ling/bane without damaging the Protoss economy.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24231 Posts
July 01 2022 19:24 GMT
#117
what is that format lol. So players who finish 3rd or 4th in their groups aren't eliminated from the tourney, they go into the LB which apparently is going on as we speak.
darklycid
Profile Joined May 2014
3515 Posts
July 01 2022 19:24 GMT
#118
On July 02 2022 04:23 warnull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2022 04:19 darklycid wrote:
On July 02 2022 04:16 warnull wrote:
reynor won that without needing to clear creep. it's as if the vision, map control, and speed buff from creep is useless against what reynor is doing.

i think creep should be changed to reduce movement speed of protoss, rather than buffing movement speed of zerg. at the minimum the recent creep nerfs (armored tag, growth rate, cancellable) should be reverted

Yeah creep is quite useless if the toss waits for you to kill yourself.


by "kill yourself", do you mean throwing away ling/bane to damage protoss economy? because that's how zerg is supposed to counter high drone count gateway styles

Except he didn't really damage the toss economy and there units away for not much in the end while taking massive damage himself, so that is killing himself.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
July 01 2022 19:25 GMT
#119
On July 02 2022 04:23 warnull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2022 04:19 darklycid wrote:
On July 02 2022 04:16 warnull wrote:
reynor won that without needing to clear creep. it's as if the vision, map control, and speed buff from creep is useless against what reynor is doing.

i think creep should be changed to reduce movement speed of protoss, rather than buffing movement speed of zerg. at the minimum the recent creep nerfs (armored tag, growth rate, cancellable) should be reverted

Yeah creep is quite useless if the toss waits for you to kill yourself.


by "kill yourself", do you mean throwing away ling/bane to damage protoss economy? because that's how zerg is supposed to counter high drone count gateway styles

Yeah, while teching up your own Zerg army at the same time. Solar end up with mass Ultra, which is great for the first few wave, then Reynor start to make Immortal like any other Protoss would do, and Solar still making more Ultra.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
July 01 2022 19:26 GMT
#120
On July 02 2022 04:24 [PkF] Wire wrote:
what is that format lol. So players who finish 3rd or 4th in their groups aren't eliminated from the tourney, they go into the LB which apparently is going on as we speak.

Yeah, basically everyone got 2 chance, one from the group stages and one from the bracket.
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