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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24232 Posts
July 02 2022 17:27 GMT
#381
that g4 !!! (DRG - Neeb)
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 02 2022 17:27 GMT
#382
On July 03 2022 02:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
that g4 !!! (DRG - Neeb)

You are probably mesmerized that DRG managed to win that game? Rightfully so, he really shouldn't have.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24232 Posts
July 02 2022 17:29 GMT
#383
On July 03 2022 02:27 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 02:27 [PkF] Wire wrote:
that g4 !!! (DRG - Neeb)

You are probably mesmerized that DRG managed to win that game? Rightfully so, he really shouldn't have.

completely mesmerized yeah that was a cool tense game though I agree Neeb kinda botchered it
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-02 17:31:42
July 02 2022 17:31 GMT
#384
Hero doesn't use control groups???

This is why I like Pig's casting, he knows lots of really interesting details like this.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 02 2022 17:32 GMT
#385
If herO actually doesn't use control groups he's even faster than I gave him credit for. That'd be mental.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
July 02 2022 17:38 GMT
#386
Good analysis of herO's mindset here, though it's portrayed in a negative light.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16006 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-02 17:40:41
July 02 2022 17:38 GMT
#387
On July 03 2022 02:31 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Hero doesn't use control groups???

This is why I like Pig's casting, he knows lots of really interesting details like this.

he said he doesn't use control groups the way other Protoss players do.
As in he doesn't have a setup like main army 1, harassment units 2 etc but always switches it around

edit: Did you turn the sound off after the first part of his statement??
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
July 02 2022 17:42 GMT
#388
On July 03 2022 02:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 02:31 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Hero doesn't use control groups???

This is why I like Pig's casting, he knows lots of really interesting details like this.

he said he doesn't use control groups the way other Protoss players do.
As in he doesn't have a setup like main army 1, harassment units 2 etc but always switches it around

edit: Did you turn the sound off after the first part of his statement??

I did actually disconnect the headphones by accident right after that.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 02 2022 17:44 GMT
#389
I didn't expect DRG to do so well against Protoss this tournament to be honest. Like I was fully ready for him to get dumpstered by Neeb but he actually made it really close.

Now for Maru to somehow lose...
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3126 Posts
July 02 2022 17:44 GMT
#390
On July 03 2022 02:38 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 02:31 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Hero doesn't use control groups???

This is why I like Pig's casting, he knows lots of really interesting details like this.

he said he doesn't use control groups the way other Protoss players do.
As in he doesn't have a setup like main army 1, harassment units 2 etc but always switches it around

yeah it wasn't quite as extreme as "no control groups," from what I understood Pig was saying that he uses a few control groups heuristically based on what he's microing at the moment or what he wants to be able to rapidly switch between and esp switch back to. so 1 is his harassing adepts, then a minute later he switches to 1 being his harassing oracles, 2 his blink stalkers, then a minute later, 1 is his blink stalkers, etc, etc. while just hitting F2 for when he wants to rally his main army. instead of having a consistent set up of "1 is my main army, 2 is my harassing units, 3 is..."
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
July 02 2022 17:45 GMT
#391
On July 03 2022 02:44 Captain Peabody wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 02:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 03 2022 02:31 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Hero doesn't use control groups???

This is why I like Pig's casting, he knows lots of really interesting details like this.

he said he doesn't use control groups the way other Protoss players do.
As in he doesn't have a setup like main army 1, harassment units 2 etc but always switches it around

yeah it wasn't quite as extreme as "no control groups," from what I understood Pig was saying that he uses a few control groups heuristically based on what he's microing at the moment or what he wants to be able to rapidly switch between and esp switch back to. so 1 is his harassing adepts, then a minute later he switches to 1 being his harassing oracles, 2 his blink stalkers, then a minute later, 1 is his blink stalkers, etc, etc. while just hitting F2 for when he wants to rally his main army. instead of having a consistent set up of "1 is my main army, 2 is my harassing units, 3 is..."

that is so weird.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24232 Posts
July 02 2022 17:45 GMT
#392
On July 03 2022 02:44 Elentos wrote:
I didn't expect DRG to do so well against Protoss this tournament to be honest. Like I was fully ready for him to get dumpstered by Neeb but he actually made it really close.

Now for Maru to somehow lose...

I had faith at some point in g5, but yeah that was barely not enough. In the end, his ZvP didn't look bad at all this tourney.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16006 Posts
July 02 2022 17:46 GMT
#393
On July 03 2022 02:44 Captain Peabody wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 02:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 03 2022 02:31 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Hero doesn't use control groups???

This is why I like Pig's casting, he knows lots of really interesting details like this.

he said he doesn't use control groups the way other Protoss players do.
As in he doesn't have a setup like main army 1, harassment units 2 etc but always switches it around

yeah it wasn't quite as extreme as "no control groups," from what I understood Pig was saying that he uses a few control groups heuristically based on what he's microing at the moment or what he wants to be able to rapidly switch between and esp switch back to. so 1 is his harassing adepts, then a minute later he switches to 1 being his harassing oracles, 2 his blink stalkers, then a minute later, 1 is his blink stalkers, etc, etc. while just hitting F2 for when he wants to rally his main army. instead of having a consistent set up of "1 is my main army, 2 is my harassing units, 3 is..."

yeah exactly, seems really inconvenient but if it works for him...
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
July 02 2022 17:47 GMT
#394
On July 03 2022 02:46 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2022 02:44 Captain Peabody wrote:
On July 03 2022 02:38 Charoisaur wrote:
On July 03 2022 02:31 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Hero doesn't use control groups???

This is why I like Pig's casting, he knows lots of really interesting details like this.

he said he doesn't use control groups the way other Protoss players do.
As in he doesn't have a setup like main army 1, harassment units 2 etc but always switches it around

yeah it wasn't quite as extreme as "no control groups," from what I understood Pig was saying that he uses a few control groups heuristically based on what he's microing at the moment or what he wants to be able to rapidly switch between and esp switch back to. so 1 is his harassing adepts, then a minute later he switches to 1 being his harassing oracles, 2 his blink stalkers, then a minute later, 1 is his blink stalkers, etc, etc. while just hitting F2 for when he wants to rally his main army. instead of having a consistent set up of "1 is my main army, 2 is my harassing units, 3 is..."

yeah exactly, seems really inconvenient but if it works for him...


I think it kinda makes sense given that herO used to play Z in BW, and you can't really hotkey an entire Zerg army in BW a lot of the time anyway
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 02 2022 17:47 GMT
#395
Mad shoutout to herO for that 1 anti-baneling sentry in his 4th tbh.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Husyelt
Profile Blog Joined May 2020
United States837 Posts
July 02 2022 17:52 GMT
#396
Probably going to have 4 Koreans / 4 Foreigners in the ro8 less Maru fears the great shadow of GigaGabe
You're getting cynical and that won't do I'd throw the rose tint back on the exploded view
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16006 Posts
July 02 2022 17:52 GMT
#397
Well, 3 Protoss in the ro8 is pretty good compared to the usual distribution
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
July 02 2022 17:56 GMT
#398
On July 03 2022 02:52 Charoisaur wrote:
Well, 3 Protoss in the ro8 is pretty good compared to the usual distribution


I'm excited, but in truth I fear a ZvZ finals .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 02 2022 17:58 GMT
#399
Our Ro8 is looking solid.

Clem vs herO - best Terran outside of Korea (outside of Maru really) against the alleged best Protoss in the world, both have something to prove here. Clem's never done too hot at a big offline event, herO still has to show that he can deliver big time outside of online events in his new groove.

Dark vs Elazer - that's a ZvZ story for the ancients at this point. Dark's probably still upset about the times he lost to Elazer.

Creator vs Neeb - Creator has already beaten 2 of the top 3 NA players, will Neeb be just another addition to his collection?Both guys with a pretty surprising upswing this year I have to say.

Maru/Heromarine vs Reynor - Maybe Heromarine gets a chance at revenge for Katowice? A chance to prove that he was the best Italian player all along? Or maybe we get what the people want to see which is Maru turtling on ghosts for 30 minutes to win 2 games and then lose 3 more because it's 2022 and he still can't wall off his natural properly.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 02 2022 17:59 GMT
#400
Heromarine is the most 42 year-old looking 24 year-old I've ever seen.
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