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Niyanyo
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico71 Posts
March 07 2022 22:35 GMT
#21
So exited! Already backed.
FCHK
Profile Joined August 2020
202 Posts
March 08 2022 06:12 GMT
#22
If you are going to use snake format in the draft, please swap the order of the 3rd and 4th rounds

i.e.
1st round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
2nd: round: H > G > F > E > D > C > B > A
3rd round: H > G > F > E > D > C > B > A
4th round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
5th round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden592 Posts
March 08 2022 13:45 GMT
#23
A caster free for all to determine snake draft order? That will be among the most hype of this entire thing. There are so few hyped free for alls nowadays. They are the most chaotic variant that have been here year after year.
Random Platinum EU
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
March 08 2022 18:15 GMT
#24
OMG YES!
I absolutely loved the first event, I'll gladly kickstart a bit!
ROOTCatZ
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Peru1226 Posts
March 15 2022 07:27 GMT
#25
On March 08 2022 15:12 FCHK wrote:
If you are going to use snake format in the draft, please swap the order of the 3rd and 4th rounds

i.e.
1st round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
2nd: round: H > G > F > E > D > C > B > A
3rd round: H > G > F > E > D > C > B > A
4th round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
5th round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H


I got 8th pick last time, I suggested this be done then, but it wasn't, idk why.

This time there's a FFA to determine pick order so hoping not to get 8th pick again but who knows :D
Progamerwww.root-gaming.com
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
597 Posts
March 18 2022 11:18 GMT
#26
Player Sign-up!!

Draft - 30th March

Group Stages - 8th, 9th, 10th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 22nd April

Playoffs - 24th April
Commentator
InvictusRage
Profile Joined August 2011
United States230 Posts
March 21 2022 08:16 GMT
#27
On March 08 2022 15:12 FCHK wrote:
If you are going to use snake format in the draft, please swap the order of the 3rd and 4th rounds

i.e.
1st round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
2nd: round: H > G > F > E > D > C > B > A
3rd round: H > G > F > E > D > C > B > A
4th round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
5th round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H


Can someone explain why this would be a good idea?
t5Fab
Profile Joined July 2018
183 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-21 09:20:55
March 21 2022 09:16 GMT
#28
On March 21 2022 17:16 InvictusRage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2022 15:12 FCHK wrote:
If you are going to use snake format in the draft, please swap the order of the 3rd and 4th rounds

i.e.
1st round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
2nd: round: H > G > F > E > D > C > B > A
3rd round: H > G > F > E > D > C > B > A
4th round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H
5th round: A > B > C > D > E > F > G > H


Can someone explain why this would be a good idea?


Ideally in a world of perfect information and deterministic outcomes, the players have a univocal rank from best to worst. So each caster picks the best player available in the pool at his turn.

Even if in the end of both drafts the sum of ranking is the same, the reality is that the difference in player's ability flattens in the lower rankings.

So when you get to the fourth pick there is no actual difference between rank 25 and 32, and caster H would not get the same advantage that caster A got by picking 17 over 24. The disadvantage is even exacerbated by picking 1 over 8 (Serral vs Solar if we use aligulac)

Flipping the third draft makes it so caster H gains rank 8-9-17-32, and caster A 1-16-24-25.
Now:
1 is much better than 8
9 is better than 16
17 is slightly better than 24
25 and 32 are interchangeable in skill (Time and Spirit on aligulac)

So the sum of skills in the team is more even, with the same sum of ranks

This is how I see it, and it makes more sense to me. Hope it was clear enough!
d3r3
Profile Joined December 2018
4 Posts
March 22 2022 05:56 GMT
#29
thank you wardi, this sounds great
WardiTV
Profile Joined September 2016
597 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-28 11:55:22
March 28 2022 11:48 GMT
#30
Final registration list (barring any final entries we will allow if they sign-up today) :

milkicow
MaNa
CuKu
Gerald
Legendk#2729
¿Mad?Reynor
ByuN
ShoWTimE
Neeb
FoxeR
Solar
Prince
goblin
Lambo
Zoun
ArT
Spirit
Harstem
HateMe
GuitarKing
FightingFrog#2985
GunGuBanda
Vindicta
Armani
Aristori
Snoxtar
uThermal
Kelazhur
Trifax
SortOf
krystianer
SKillous
DnS
PtitDrogo
Esarel#11579
special
HeroMarine
Astrea
Twitchjinioh
Has
Ryung
MaxPax
Quantel
Zest
Bunny
Rattata
Nice
KeeN
Gumiho
dream
ForJumy
NightMare
AqueroN
Creator
BabyMarine
Maru
Trap
Clem
Rime
cyan
Chance
HolyHit
Mixu
EON
Serral
Cure
Elazer
Commentator
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3475 Posts
March 28 2022 12:59 GMT
#31
excuse my language, but WTF is this roster, man, are you guys trying to upping WTL? Serral, Maru, Reynor, Clem. No Rogue or Dark should balance out the race, hopefully.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7104 Posts
March 28 2022 13:39 GMT
#32
On March 18 2022 20:18 WardiTV wrote:
Player Sign-up!!

Draft - 30th March

Group Stages - 8th, 9th, 10th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 22nd April

Playoffs - 24th April


Sorry if this was mentioned before:
Is the FFA on the 30th as well? And drafting right after? Live?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England898 Posts
March 28 2022 14:34 GMT
#33
On March 28 2022 22:39 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2022 20:18 WardiTV wrote:
Player Sign-up!!

Draft - 30th March

Group Stages - 8th, 9th, 10th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 22nd April

Playoffs - 24th April


Sorry if this was mentioned before:
Is the FFA on the 30th as well? And drafting right after? Live?


Yes!
CommentatorOwner of WardiTV. Streamer, caster & event organizer. / / www.wardi.tv
buzz_bender
Profile Joined August 2019
445 Posts
March 29 2022 04:47 GMT
#34
On March 28 2022 23:34 Wardi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2022 22:39 Harris1st wrote:
On March 18 2022 20:18 WardiTV wrote:
Player Sign-up!!

Draft - 30th March

Group Stages - 8th, 9th, 10th, 15th, 16th, 17th, 22nd April

Playoffs - 24th April


Sorry if this was mentioned before:
Is the FFA on the 30th as well? And drafting right after? Live?


Yes!


Awesome! Any idea what map all of you will be playing on? Is it one of those special maps that the Korean players had some bonkers FFA in? Like this one?
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3475 Posts
March 30 2022 03:28 GMT
#35
Okay, time to put on the draft expert hat, my guess on the draft order of round 1 would be, Serral > Reynor > Maru > Clem > HM > Trap > Zest > Cure. The exception would be if Rotti or Feardragon land the #1 pick because that would be Reynor or a Protoss off the board.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7104 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-30 08:23:13
March 30 2022 08:22 GMT
#36
HYPE!!! This gonna go live in like 3 hours!

On March 30 2022 12:28 tigera6 wrote:
Okay, time to put on the draft expert hat, my guess on the draft order of round 1 would be, Serral > Reynor > Maru > Clem > HM > Trap > Zest > Cure. The exception would be if Rotti or Feardragon land the #1 pick because that would be Reynor or a Protoss off the board.


I don't think anyone is gonna pass Serral as #1 pick
Curious to see when the first Protoss is gonna get picked and if it's a Korean or MaxiPaxi
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
maneatingshoe
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada484 Posts
March 30 2022 12:44 GMT
#37
On March 30 2022 12:28 tigera6 wrote:
Okay, time to put on the draft expert hat, my guess on the draft order of round 1 would be, Serral > Reynor > Maru > Clem > HM > Trap > Zest > Cure. The exception would be if Rotti or Feardragon land the #1 pick because that would be Reynor or a Protoss off the board.


My Prediction is

Serral > Maru > Reynor > Zest > Solar > Clem > Cure > Trap

I could see Bunny, Heromarine, or MaxPax all going first round too.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-03-30 13:04:14
March 30 2022 12:59 GMT
#38
Nvm
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7104 Posts
March 30 2022 13:26 GMT
#39
Meme team again feardragon? Really?
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain884 Posts
March 30 2022 13:51 GMT
#40
Favourite teams for you?
For me it is DeMusliM > RotterdaM > CatZ > PiG
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
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