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[WTL 2021] Winter - Week 1 - Page 2
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Die4Ever
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Elentos
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Nakajin
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digmouse
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swarminfestor
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warnull
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Elentos
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On October 02 2021 02:07 warnull wrote: https://twitter.com/lambosc2/status/1443920227583111168 What the fuck kind of lunatic decided this would be a good idea? And also, if the teams don't decide these things anymore, who does? | ||
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Durnuu
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tigera6
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Also, with WTL right in the middle of DH EU, it probably would inferere with the prepartion of those EU guys. I just hope they get the schedule work out and we dont have to see the ugly situation like with Clem last season. | ||
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Wardi
England898 Posts
On October 02 2021 11:21 tigera6 wrote: To be honest, I dont hate it. So, in the previous WTL season, teams would send their starting player by map choice from the 3-maps pool. This season, player is sent out by match order, the map order shall be revealed a day before the match? Yeah that means players cant pick their favorite map anymore (from the 3-map pool) and will have to adapt to the stranger map. Also, with WTL right in the middle of DH EU, it probably would inferere with the prepartion of those EU guys. I just hope they get the schedule work out and we dont have to see the ugly situation like with Clem last season. Knowing players aren’t set based on maps takes away a lot of the team strategy. There were a lot of mirror matches before, but I like this much less, much more randomness to each match | ||
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Elentos
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Possibly having less mirror matches (and it's not even guaranteed) isn't worth basically killing the strategic aspect of a preparation style teamleague to me. If anything, actually give me more mirrors and spare me from ever having to watch a PvZ again. | ||
TheOneAboveU
Germany3367 Posts
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tigera6
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On October 02 2021 17:11 Elentos wrote: If you now want to snipe the opposing team's ace player or want to have them play your weakest player so the ace doesn't beat anyone you're counting on, you're entering a total gamble (and this whole process lowers the chance we'll get to see specific snipe builds too). And then even if you got your snipe pick right, you can still get unfavorable maps and get fucked anyway. Possibly having less mirror matches (and it's not even guaranteed) isn't worth basically killing the strategic aspect of a preparation style teamleague to me. If anything, actually give me more mirrors and spare me from ever having to watch a PvZ again. I fail to see how teams can plan the snipe or avoid the opponent Ace player just base on the map selection alone. Unless there is a map that clearly favor that player race or play, aka Beckett for Terran, its still a 33% chance to get the right matchup. As the player, I would hate it because of having less time to prepare. As a viewer, I dont mind to see it unless everyone going to play like Bunny did last night. | ||
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Elentos
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On October 02 2021 18:32 tigera6 wrote: I fail to see how teams can plan the snipe or avoid the opponent Ace player just base on the map selection alone. Unless there is a map that clearly favor that player race or play, aka Beckett for Terran, its still a 33% chance to get the right matchup. As the player, I would hate it because of having less time to prepare. As a viewer, I dont mind to see it unless everyone going to play like Bunny did last night. Past teamleagues have shown beyond doubt that maps are the single most important predictor when it comes to sniping players. Even if it's only a minor advantage as opposed to a clear imbalance, you use that to maximize your chances. On top of that there's player tendencies and preferences (e. g. what maps do they veto the most?) for maps. The reliability of predictions around that are what made the idea of snipe plays in Proleague viable and something teams had to plan around. When the maps are known, predicting which player plays what map is actually nowhere near random chance unless all players on the opposing team play the same race. | ||
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Nakajin
Canada8990 Posts
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Poopi
France12912 Posts
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tigera6
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edit: Apparently the game is a replay from earlier. | ||
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digmouse
China6331 Posts
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2450 Posts
On October 03 2021 21:50 digmouse wrote: What the hell was that play Rogue? Experimenting on some units, maybe? But, that one was not good strategy. That's why he slammed the desk. | ||
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