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Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 17 2021 20:38 GMT
#221
Can't belive Clem managed to retake command of that game after such a lousy start. He seems sensitive to tilt but can really fight from behind too.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4937 Posts
September 17 2021 20:38 GMT
#222
On September 18 2021 05:37 swarminfestor wrote:
What wrong with Solar 10-15 seconds after he resumed the game?


he didnt react to anything, got 10+ drones lost, a base snipped and a bunch of lurkes dead without any visible reaction from the zerg.
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4407 Posts
September 17 2021 20:38 GMT
#223
Sad result. That first 30 seconds after the pause ended was so crazy terrible for Solar. Lurker snipes and mine drops took 50 supply in that 30 seconds.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12861 Posts
September 17 2021 20:39 GMT
#224
On September 18 2021 05:31 geokilla wrote:
KR > EU

Maru > EU but Clem > Solar. Would have been over before lurkers if Clem could micro as usual with no ping imo
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JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
September 17 2021 20:39 GMT
#225
On September 18 2021 05:38 Calliope wrote:
Can't belive Clem managed to retake command of that game after such a lousy start. He seems sensitive to tilt but can really fight from behind too.


Yeah I thought Clem was done about ~3-5 minutes before the pause, which did Solar no favor. And after that, everything changed.
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4937 Posts
September 17 2021 20:39 GMT
#226
but to be fair, he said gogo
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
September 17 2021 20:40 GMT
#227
Solar tried to be too agressive, he never took control of the 2 bases on his side while some Lurker and Queen could have done the job. And lingbane bust into the same base over and over again isnt great neither, initially the trade was good when Clem was off-guard but later Clem defended so damn well.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12861 Posts
September 17 2021 20:41 GMT
#228
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something
WriterMaru
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
September 17 2021 20:41 GMT
#229
Hah, hadn't noticed those two low health Overseers disintegrate by running into the Medivac's Parasitic Bomb in the game itself .
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
September 17 2021 20:44 GMT
#230
something definitely went wrong here after the pause
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
September 17 2021 20:44 GMT
#231
On September 18 2021 05:41 Poopi wrote:
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something


Clem was already taking good trades tho.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-17 20:47:43
September 17 2021 20:45 GMT
#232
On September 18 2021 05:41 Poopi wrote:
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something


I felt like Clem was bit lucky with Solar being unresponsive for a couple of seconds. Clem's TvZ was pretty good like Maru in old days, but since became vulnerable to the Korean Zerg players lately. Dark just beat him, then Solar almost killed him today. As far I knew, Reynor and Serral haven't beat him yet, right in any other matchup?
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12861 Posts
September 17 2021 20:45 GMT
#233
On September 18 2021 05:44 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2021 05:41 Poopi wrote:
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something


Clem was already taking good trades tho.

Yes for sure but it would be relatively close, the lurker snipe and 29 drones kill completely swung the game in Clem’s favor
WriterMaru
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15952 Posts
September 17 2021 20:45 GMT
#234
On September 18 2021 05:44 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2021 05:41 Poopi wrote:
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something


Clem was already taking good trades tho.

I think it was still 50/50 before the pause. Solar was mining much more
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
September 17 2021 20:48 GMT
#235
On September 18 2021 05:45 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2021 05:41 Poopi wrote:
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something


I felt like Clem was bit lucky with Solar being unresponsive for a couple of seconds. Clem's TvZ was pretty good like Maru in old days, but since became vulnerable to the Korean Zerg players lately.

Clem is lacking the large panel of strats that Koreans gain from scheduled bo5, he's relying too much on his mechanics imo. He's a week-end tournament player.
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Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4937 Posts
September 17 2021 20:48 GMT
#236
haha, clem chuckle made me chuckle
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stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2749 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-17 20:50:33
September 17 2021 20:49 GMT
#237
On September 18 2021 05:45 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2021 05:44 stilt wrote:
On September 18 2021 05:41 Poopi wrote:
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something


Clem was already taking good trades tho.

I think it was still 50/50 before the pause. Solar was mining much more


I would almost still give the edge to solar considering his resistance despite the big losses.
But overall while terran on ping is considered harder, some of clem difficulties seem a bit to be a tilt question, even on ping it's rare to see a terran at this level missing a pick up.
Anyway his super dynamic style must suffer more than other player in these conditions.
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3397 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-17 21:00:40
September 17 2021 20:52 GMT
#238
Like I said, if Solar could mine from the 2 bases close to his side, he would still be ahead. It would have been 8 bases Zerg vs 6 base Terran because Clem could not take the top right base and they were fighting for the other base on Clem side.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12861 Posts
September 17 2021 20:52 GMT
#239
On September 18 2021 05:49 stilt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2021 05:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 18 2021 05:44 stilt wrote:
On September 18 2021 05:41 Poopi wrote:
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something


Clem was already taking good trades tho.

I think it was still 50/50 before the pause. Solar was mining much more


I would almost still give the edge to solar considering his resistance despite the big losses.
But overall while terran on ping is considered harder, some of clem difficulties seem a bit to be a tilt question, even on ping it's rare to see a terran at this level missing a pick up.
Anyway his super dynamic style must suffer more than other player in these conditions.

Have you seen Bunny vs Serral? You could see the ping in many exchanges.
But since Katowice is held offline, we will have an incredibly hype event, I got the chills thinking about it

Maru looked phenomenal today, maybe he can win the whole thing if Clem takes care of Serral / Reynor
WriterMaru
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-17 21:06:37
September 17 2021 21:00 GMT
#240
On September 18 2021 05:52 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2021 05:49 stilt wrote:
On September 18 2021 05:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 18 2021 05:44 stilt wrote:
On September 18 2021 05:41 Poopi wrote:
What happened to Solar after the pause? I think it killed his rhythm so he failed everything :/. Not glad Clem won like that but a win is a win, great fighting
Solar can be really good at times but he always lacks something


Clem was already taking good trades tho.

I think it was still 50/50 before the pause. Solar was mining much more


I would almost still give the edge to solar considering his resistance despite the big losses.
But overall while terran on ping is considered harder, some of clem difficulties seem a bit to be a tilt question, even on ping it's rare to see a terran at this level missing a pick up.
Anyway his super dynamic style must suffer more than other player in these conditions.

Have you seen Bunny vs Serral? You could see the ping in many exchanges.
But since Katowice is held offline, we will have an incredibly hype event, I got the chills thinking about it

Maru looked phenomenal today, maybe he can win the whole thing if Clem takes care of Serral / Reynor


Definitely, but I have feeling that bracket luck may rule in favor of either one again this time.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
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