[GSL 2021] Code S - Grand Finals

On July 30 2021 08:06 [Phantom] wrote:


TL was shutdown for a day in support of actiBlizz staff.

I must keep saying this: Zerg is just too versatile. M They have too many strategies and you need to account for alm of them limiting Protons builda. On top of that Nydia is completely dumb. "oh they saw the nydus, I'll guess is just make five more". I'm not even convinced Trap could have stopped that push even if dark just had the Nydus at the front.

There's also that other game where trap was about to win, and then suddenly two vipers come out of nowhere kill 3 colossus AND still have energy for blinding cloud.

Or how Queens are and make everything else immortal.

Protoss won't win a major tournament as long as they have two viable builds and Zerg is still so versatile.

Want to know the reason why Protoss still do the terrible adept build? It's not because the pros think it's good. It's because if they do the same strategy all games they will lose even harder, so they need to mix it up. And if for some reason you don't scout the adepts, it can still work Ok compared to most other Protoss builds. It at least gets some drone kills. Still, that doesn't make it good, but necessary. This is a result of years of nerfing different Protoss early agression strategies. (Some deservingly, some not).

Basically: Protists needs some buffs to help build variety. Or Zerg needs some nerfs to help Protoss have some build variety.

Because Protoss is fairly strong against Terran in the Late game, Zerg should be nerfed. I think at least 1 or 2 of these would help a lot:

[*]Nerf queen max energy so they don't have infinite transfuses.
[*]Nerf the Lurker. It's too cost efficient for a race that's supposed not to be and basically counters all Protoss ground units. I suggest removing at least one of the two completely asinine Hive upgrades that eliminate their counterplay, forcing the protoss into Air every game, which is a big problem when it comes to build variety.

(Basically lurker weakness is having to reposition and not being able to move while burrowed which limits their effective range and zoning. This is completely negated by their instant burrow and extra range upgrade. Which is dumb even as a concept. This limits ground based counterplay, forcing protists into Air every game).

[*]Remove Abduct, it's a totally unnecessary ability in LotV. Useful in HotS, overkill now.
[*]Remove vipers energy Regen ability. They might as well have infinite energy at the moment. Almost as broken as Kaydarin Amulet High Templars in WoL. At least put a limit to the amount of energy they can recover (Recover up to 100 energy, instead of all the energy you want, for example).
[*]Change energy cost of Viper abilities.
[*]Increase the cost of the nydus, or have a cap of 1-2 max.


I would honestly just remove Nydus. Just like the Mother ship core it should have never existed. But alas, not going to happen.

I think one or two of those proposed Nerfs would help the matchup a lot without affecting TvZ or PvT considerably.