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Poll: Who Advances?DRG & Zest (13) 34% Solar & Cure (6) 16% DRG & Solar (6) 16% Zest & Cure (5) 13% Zest & Solar (4) 11% Cure & DRG (4) 11% 38 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): DRG & Zest (Vote): Solar & Cure (Vote): Zest & Solar (Vote): Cure & DRG (Vote): DRG & Solar (Vote): Zest & Cure
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Group A was amazing, so Group B is probably gonna be a letdown, but I will be more than happy to be wrong about that!
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DRG > Cure Solar > Zest Solar > DRG Zest > Cure Zest > DRG
EZ
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On September 26 2020 07:20 WTCO wrote: DRG > Cure Solar > Zest Solar > DRG Zest > Cure Zest > DRG
EZ predicting a protoss to beat a zerg, you are a bold one
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On September 26 2020 11:02 starkiller123 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 07:20 WTCO wrote: DRG > Cure Solar > Zest Solar > DRG Zest > Cure Zest > DRG
EZ predicting a protoss to beat a zerg, you are a bold one
lol normally I wouldn't but unless DRG changed his style up from the DH season finals where he lost to Stats twice, I think Zest'll beat him.
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60 year old Tastosis casting young players sounds awesome
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Wait, DRG forgot bane speed?
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speed bane at 10 minute mark ? ;OOo
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DRG has been so cost inefficient this game it's absurd. Where is the DRG that 3-0'd Inno so cleanly?
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How is Zerg even still in this game? Am I watching BW or what?
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On September 26 2020 13:20 RKC wrote: How is Zerg even still in this game? Am I watching BW or what? Mostly fantasy gg timing or something.
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That was just like, winning with pure mechanics
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On September 26 2020 13:20 RKC wrote: How is Zerg even still in this game? Am I watching BW or what?
You can really hang on on four bases on Deathaura when behind though you'll never manage to get a fifth.
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On September 26 2020 13:20 JJH777 wrote: DRG has been so cost inefficient this game it's absurd. Where is the DRG that 3-0'd Inno so cleanly? That on was on Inno playing terribly.
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Artosis talking about lurkers being slow is kind of funny.
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On September 26 2020 13:20 JJH777 wrote: DRG has been so cost inefficient this game it's absurd. Where is the DRG that 3-0'd Inno so cleanly? jet lag cuz dude lives in busan
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Purely random - is it just me, or do SC2 lurkers have less epic killing splash than BW lurkers ? Purely from an aesthetic perspective, of course. BW lurkers kill graphic can tilt the opponent into rage-quitting...
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On September 26 2020 13:25 RKC wrote: Purely random - is it just me, or do SC2 lurkers have less epic killing splash than BW lurkers ? Purely from an aesthetic perspective, of course. BW lurkers kill graphic can tilt the opponent into rage-quitting... I think part of it is that the SC2 camera is farther away?
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On September 26 2020 13:25 RKC wrote: Purely random - is it just me, or do SC2 lurkers have less epic killing splash than BW lurkers ? Purely from an aesthetic perspective, of course. BW lurkers kill graphic can tilt the opponent into rage-quitting... It's because brood war units explode in a shower of blood, and have much more satisfying sound effects imo
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On September 26 2020 13:26 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:25 RKC wrote: Purely random - is it just me, or do SC2 lurkers have less epic killing splash than BW lurkers ? Purely from an aesthetic perspective, of course. BW lurkers kill graphic can tilt the opponent into rage-quitting... I think part of it is that the SC2 camera is farther away? Nah, animation of splash is also far more subtle.
Lurkers are still tilt inducing because 200 HP kekeke.
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On September 26 2020 13:28 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:26 Die4Ever wrote:On September 26 2020 13:25 RKC wrote: Purely random - is it just me, or do SC2 lurkers have less epic killing splash than BW lurkers ? Purely from an aesthetic perspective, of course. BW lurkers kill graphic can tilt the opponent into rage-quitting... I think part of it is that the SC2 camera is farther away? Nah, animation of splash is also far more subtle. Lurkers are still tilt inducing because 200 HP kekeke.
Yeah, SC2 lurker spines are not as sharp-looking. More like sneaky DT blades.
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DRG spots all these drops, he grew up playing against MMA "oh you thought drops were your ally?"
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On September 26 2020 13:23 Morbidius wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:20 JJH777 wrote: DRG has been so cost inefficient this game it's absurd. Where is the DRG that 3-0'd Inno so cleanly? That on was on Inno playing terribly.
He beat TY last season too though.
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On September 26 2020 13:31 Die4Ever wrote: DRG spots all these drops, he grew up playing against MMA "oh you thought drops were your ally?"
Can't recall, but how did DRG do against Captain America way back? Polt should be a more annoying and harder opponent?
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On September 26 2020 13:33 RKC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:31 Die4Ever wrote: DRG spots all these drops, he grew up playing against MMA "oh you thought drops were your ally?" Can't recall, but how did DRG do against Captain America way back? Polt should be a more annoying and harder opponent? compared to MMA? nah MMA was better vs zerg
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On September 26 2020 13:34 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:33 RKC wrote:On September 26 2020 13:31 Die4Ever wrote: DRG spots all these drops, he grew up playing against MMA "oh you thought drops were your ally?" Can't recall, but how did DRG do against Captain America way back? Polt should be a more annoying and harder opponent? compared to MMA? nah MMA was better vs zerg
True, MMA is more solid. But Polt just pulls off these weird pushes and timings, kinda like Parting. Must be hard to play against, psychologically.
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These have been some textbook games from Cure win or lose.
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Great games so far. I always like watching games on golden wall.
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The mention of MMA makes me miss his chaotic drop style against zerg. Makes for great games. A pity it no longer works.
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On September 26 2020 13:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: These have been some textbook games from Cure win or lose. dude lost on golden wall and won on deathaura this is madness
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On September 26 2020 13:39 NoS-Craig wrote: Great games so far. I always like watching games on golden wall.
It's really too bad Golden Wall isn't getting a third season. If any map could have stayed fresh for three season it would have been Golden Wall.
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On September 26 2020 13:40 rayl991 wrote: The mention of MMA makes me miss his chaotic drop style against zerg. Makes for great games. A pity it no longer works.
I used to hate how abusive and effective MMM drops were. I was pro-Zerg years back.
Now I'm the complete opposite. Banes - ugh! How times have changed....
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On September 26 2020 13:42 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: These have been some textbook games from Cure win or lose. dude lost on golden wall and won on deathaura this is madness Deathaura is terran favored, according to Liquipedia though.
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These liberators are just being dirty at the moment lol.
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On September 26 2020 13:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:39 NoS-Craig wrote: Great games so far. I always like watching games on golden wall. It's really too bad Golden Wall isn't getting a third season. If any map could have stayed fresh for three season it would have been Golden Wall. people are gonna love lightshade LE tho looks pretty promising
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On September 26 2020 13:45 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:42 seemsgood wrote:On September 26 2020 13:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: These have been some textbook games from Cure win or lose. dude lost on golden wall and won on deathaura this is madness Deathaura is terran favored, according to Liquipedia though.
It's pretty close to 50/50.
As for Golden Wall I think it's by far the second best map for Terran in TvZ (after Submarine), but a few Terran players like INno really hate it. Dunno why.
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On September 26 2020 13:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:45 lolfail9001 wrote:On September 26 2020 13:42 seemsgood wrote:On September 26 2020 13:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote: These have been some textbook games from Cure win or lose. dude lost on golden wall and won on deathaura this is madness Deathaura is terran favored, according to Liquipedia though. It's pretty close to 50/50. As for Golden Wall I think it's by far the second best map for Terran in TvZ (after Submarine), but a few Terran players like INno really hate it. Dunno why. Because Golden Wall is 8rax all-in map, not 4 base parade push one, duh.
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On September 26 2020 13:47 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 26 2020 13:39 NoS-Craig wrote: Great games so far. I always like watching games on golden wall. It's really too bad Golden Wall isn't getting a third season. If any map could have stayed fresh for three season it would have been Golden Wall. people are gonna love lightshade LE tho looks pretty promising
Eh... it's probably going to be a decent map, but it's not the most interesting. Similar to Acropolis, even more similar to Simulacrum (and Simulacrum is a very generic map) except with quite a short rush distance. I feel like I already know how it's going to play out.
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Alright that lib range debut is exactly what i want to see in GSL.
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On September 26 2020 13:49 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:47 seemsgood wrote:On September 26 2020 13:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On September 26 2020 13:39 NoS-Craig wrote: Great games so far. I always like watching games on golden wall. It's really too bad Golden Wall isn't getting a third season. If any map could have stayed fresh for three season it would have been Golden Wall. people are gonna love lightshade LE tho looks pretty promising Eh... it's probably going to be a decent map, but it's not the most interesting. Similar to Acropolis, even more similar to Simulacrum (and Simulacrum is a very generic map) except with quite a short rush distance. I feel like I already know how it's going to play out. its either shitty roach ravager all in or bail
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DRG has apparently been taking splitting vs mines lessons from Reynor.
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DRG 91 drones. Cure needs a miracle to win this plus he just killed the ultra cavern so he can't hope for Ultra into lose.
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Being good at engagements isn't enough when you don't damage your opponent's economy, and you lose half your SCVs.
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On September 26 2020 13:54 NoS-Craig wrote: DRG 91 drones. Cure needs a miracle to win this plus he just killed the ultra cavern so he can't hope for Ultra into lose. remember when mutas were into lose unit ;Oo
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Why does Cure have so many Marauders? That seems.. not correct? He sniped the Cavern, I guess he's expecting them to come up still?
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On September 26 2020 13:57 Supah wrote: Why does Cure have so many Marauders? That seems.. not correct? He sniped the Cavern, I guess he's expecting them to come up still?
To trade better against banelings.
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That seems like a little bit of an overkill on them, though.
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On September 26 2020 13:57 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:54 NoS-Craig wrote: DRG 91 drones. Cure needs a miracle to win this plus he just killed the ultra cavern so he can't hope for Ultra into lose. remember when mutas were into lose unit ;Oo In 2016?
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Maybe? Hard to say what would have been optimal since there really was no winning composition for Terran for the last 5+ minutes of that game.
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How have the games been so far?
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On September 26 2020 14:00 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 13:57 seemsgood wrote:On September 26 2020 13:54 NoS-Craig wrote: DRG 91 drones. Cure needs a miracle to win this plus he just killed the ultra cavern so he can't hope for Ultra into lose. remember when mutas were into lose unit ;Oo In 2016?
As much as I dislike Zerg now, I kinda like the state of mutas now - counterattacking, sniping reinforcements in middle of map. Very BW-eque.
The 'imba' part is how banelings and Queens can hold the fort at home, so mutas don't need to worry heading back to defend against pushes.
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On September 26 2020 14:04 The_Templar wrote: How have the games been so far? DRG vs Cure was... a bit obvious. When DRG got to 90 drones, he won, when he did not, he lost.
That said, if you are a fan of juicy mine hits, this series had plenty in all games.
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On September 26 2020 14:04 The_Templar wrote: How have the games been so far?
Rather standard.
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On September 26 2020 07:20 WTCO wrote: DRG > Cure Solar > Zest Solar > DRG Zest > Cure Zest > DRG
EZ This is unfortunately the accurate prediction
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On September 26 2020 14:04 The_Templar wrote: How have the games been so far? DRG forgot bane speed and lost hard.
He remembered bane speed and got 90 drones and rolled over Cure in the next two games. Super standard macro games.
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On September 26 2020 14:05 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:04 The_Templar wrote: How have the games been so far? DRG vs Cure was... a bit obvious. When DRG got to 90 drones, he won, when he did not, he lost.
So... ZvT is kinda like some single-player campaign mode?
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Okay I gotta say I didn't see that coming.
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I saw that build done by Serral on everdream in that ESL Cup.
It is so dirty.
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between this and when reynor sent a changeling zealot into trap's wall, this is dumb
only protoss loses to this dumb stuff
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That's one build where you really need to scout it (if you're going twilight. If you're going stargate it might be okay).
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God Zest loses is the most hilarious ways
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Solar probably did not shower for weeks when preparing that against Zest
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That was really dumb and should not be possible.
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On September 26 2020 14:10 JJH777 wrote: That was really dumb and should not be possible. just don't be bad at the game like Zest and you'll be fine
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On September 26 2020 14:09 BerserkSword wrote: between this and when reynor sent a changeling zealot into trap's wall, this is dumb
only protoss loses to this dumb stuff Why do you think FFE is standard build in BW (and was standard in WoL as well)?
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I don't think Protoss has a good answer for something like that honestly. Hard to scout and difficult to hold. Meanwhile Zerg gets free scout with a spot made exclusively for Zerg for some reason.
What a disgusting push
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On September 26 2020 14:11 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:10 JJH777 wrote: That was really dumb and should not be possible. just don't be bad at the game like Zest and you'll be fine time to give spawning pool the bunker treatment : ]
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On September 26 2020 14:14 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:11 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 26 2020 14:10 JJH777 wrote: That was really dumb and should not be possible. just don't be bad at the game like Zest and you'll be fine time to give spawning pool the bunker treatment : ] But you start with an overlord.
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On September 26 2020 14:14 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:11 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 26 2020 14:10 JJH777 wrote: That was really dumb and should not be possible. just don't be bad at the game like Zest and you'll be fine time to give spawning pool the bunker treatment : ] Make it salvageable?
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Triple stargate? Can you afford three voids at a time continuously?
edit: I guess he has a third.
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On September 26 2020 14:12 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:09 BerserkSword wrote: between this and when reynor sent a changeling zealot into trap's wall, this is dumb
only protoss loses to this dumb stuff Why do you think FFE is standard build in BW (and was standard in WoL as well)?
would be cool if protoss has a straight up defensive macro build in pvz
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if you don't rush with the voids don't you just die to mutas?
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I checked out the august balance patch. Dang, they buffed void rays quite a bit.
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On September 26 2020 14:16 The_Templar wrote: I checked out the august balance patch. Dang, they buffed void rays quite a bit. which doesnt do shiet unless u r zoun
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The most bemusing part of this build is that it doesn't involve +1 air weapon.
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I guess if you force them into mutas you can go phoenix yourself to counter that, but then what about hydras lol
EDIT: Well, nevermind I guess you just make chargelots and archons and roll through the hydras lol
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I think he wanted to snipe the main hatch but he missclicked.
And I think he's now dead.
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That did not look like it was going to work.
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Zest didn't do enough damage with the void rays to justify them, but then Solar went for a bunch of mutas that did nothing.
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I'm so confused by Zest this game
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Now that's where it gets interesting because i don't see how Zest breaks lurker viper turtle.
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On September 26 2020 14:21 lolfail9001 wrote: Now that's where it gets interesting because i don't see how Zest breaks lurker viper turtle.
With this many phoenixes I think he could break this. But maybe he doesn't need to since he's up in bases and going carriers.
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Even if you go carriers Solar goes vipers and starts yanking into spores
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That would have gone better if the obs hadn't been loitering in the back out of range from some of the lurkers.
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I keep saying lurker is the real problem in PvZ. Ridiculous how it counters every ground protoss unit.
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Zest needs to attack like right now no?
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I do wonder thought....how good are Phoenix with range against Vipers?
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feedbacks every viper...doesn't move in
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Okay, that was one of the most stylish wins I've ever seen
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Makes me think of TvP brood war.
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harlem globetrotters win right there.
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So, who is still complaining about game 1?
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this code s season is so entertaining
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On September 26 2020 14:26 [Phantom] wrote: I do wonder thought....how good are Phoenix with range against Vipers?
Vipers are armored, have 150 health, and abduct has 9 range. And parasitic bomb can kill all the phoenixes.
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Go Zest you deserve to win GSL after that move.
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On September 26 2020 14:29 [Phantom] wrote: Go Zest you deserve to win GSL after that move. What was the difference between that and what Solar did in game 1?
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On September 26 2020 14:31 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:29 [Phantom] wrote: Go Zest you deserve to win GSL after that move. What was the difference between that and what Solar did in game 1? Im going to need you to explain this
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On September 26 2020 14:32 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:31 HeroSandro wrote:On September 26 2020 14:29 [Phantom] wrote: Go Zest you deserve to win GSL after that move. What was the difference between that and what Solar did in game 1? Im going to need you to explain this Just funny, that some people called foul on what Solar did in game one, and thought mothership recall was an act of god. Both were auto-win strategies.
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On September 26 2020 14:29 [Phantom] wrote: Go Zest you deserve to win GSL after that move. but dude tends to perform pretty shit in the final tho not getting 4-0d is already a huge win ;0
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On September 26 2020 14:34 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:32 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 26 2020 14:31 HeroSandro wrote:On September 26 2020 14:29 [Phantom] wrote: Go Zest you deserve to win GSL after that move. What was the difference between that and what Solar did in game 1? Im going to need you to explain this Just funny, that some people called foul on what Solar did in game one, and thought mothership recall was an act of god. Both were auto-win strategies.
Never thought I'd hear the -400/-400 flying paperweight get called an auto-win strat.
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That adept is definitely not blocking properly, pretty sure my heart just palpitated
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That was a really nice transition out of not doing any damage with the adepts but retaining them all.
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Last game felt like a total stomp. Looked like there was nothing he could do against those Disruptors.
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On September 26 2020 14:34 HeroSandro wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 14:32 Cricketer12 wrote:On September 26 2020 14:31 HeroSandro wrote:On September 26 2020 14:29 [Phantom] wrote: Go Zest you deserve to win GSL after that move. What was the difference between that and what Solar did in game 1? Im going to need you to explain this Just funny, that some people called foul on what Solar did in game one, and thought mothership recall was an act of god. Both were auto-win strategies. i mean i don't think either was that bad, but like what Zest did required a very specific late game build, and then being clever enough to hid the mommaship and then do that. No one else really does that.
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these zergling rushes against protoss are getting kinda ridiculous...
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dude stop bring shitty game 1 man ;OOO shit like this is getting out of hand
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DRG brace yourself...Jest is angry
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That's StarCraft 2 PvZ baby!
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On September 26 2020 14:56 [Phantom] wrote: #giveprotossdoors
it's too dishonorable for protoss to use filthy terran technology
like in the lore as to why zealots wont use guns
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Oh it's this again. Dark went for it last time.
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thank Flash i play t erran
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Honestly, a big part of the problem is that Everdream has basically 3 different routes to the natural that Zerg can take with these early pool builds so it's almost impossible to scout every possible potential route. It's why we see this specific build on this map so often.
That doesn't make it any less frustrating though.
I'm just glad Everdream's gone soon.
edit: for fuck's sake. Another one.
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how does artosis not know it was dark vs stats
this is their only job
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On September 26 2020 15:00 BerserkSword wrote: how does artosis not know it was dark vs stats
this is their only job
They forgot about who the players were. No big deal.
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On September 26 2020 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 15:00 BerserkSword wrote: how does artosis not know it was dark vs stats
this is their only job They forgot about who the players were. No big deal.
it's not a bit deal but i dont get it lol
im piss drunk when i watch code s and i remember
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On September 26 2020 15:02 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 15:00 BerserkSword wrote: how does artosis not know it was dark vs stats
this is their only job They forgot about who the players were. No big deal. Indeed. They watch not only all the GSL games but lots of other games to study builds, strategies, etc. for casting so I imagine it all starts to blur together for them.
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Going into voids from a totally winning position is interesting. Like if Zest went for a regular chargelot archon timing he'd win 95 times out a 100 from that position. With voids who knows--maybe Zest knows it's just as good or better. But so far it looks like a bit of a throw.
edit: Well Zest clutched it out but it did look uncomfortably close at times.
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I want both of these players to go to the next round.
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On September 26 2020 15:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Going into voids from a totally winning position is interesting. Like if Zest went for a regular chargelot archon timing he'd win 95 times out a 100 from that position. With voids who knows--maybe Zest knows it's just as good or better. But so far it looks like a bit of a throw. the one thing that made it ok was the fact that DRG has been really bad vs storms recently...but then you can make the argument why didn't he do storm with chargechon and idk
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On September 26 2020 15:06 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Going into voids from a totally winning position is interesting. Like if Zest went for a regular chargelot archon timing he'd win 95 times out a 100 from that position. With voids who knows--maybe Zest knows it's just as good or better. But so far it looks like a bit of a throw.
this might be something only zest will be able to pull off
seems like this build limits creep spread and starves zerg of gas, not to mention the fact that the carrier storm transition is faster
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Don't quite understand how this will win..
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Vipers would be excellent for DRG.
edit: Oh really nice timing from Zest.
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I feel Zerg needs mutas or something. Disruptors just unstoppable looking at the moment.
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On September 26 2020 15:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Vipers would be excellent for DRG.
edit: Oh really nice timing from Zest. even with vipers drg is still not on dark level yet ;O
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those couple of big disruptor hits dam,
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those disruptor shots were disgustingly cost efficient holy
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i'm shocked drg of all people didn't just win with mutas there
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zest showing how its done, so exciting when he shows new stuff.
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1-0 for my LB so far. Hoping for DRG to win the final match to ge me 2-0 for this afternoon.
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God I hope Armani beats Zest, that would be hilarious
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Why do they keep taunting us with the giant carbot plushies that are only on sale in Korea
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On September 26 2020 15:21 NoS-Craig wrote: I feel Zerg needs mutas or something. Disruptors just unstoppable looking at the moment. its a very strong against roach ravager but i am not sure against ling bane tho
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On September 26 2020 15:22 Waxangel wrote:Why do they keep taunting us with the giant carbot plushies that are only on sale in Korea I thought she was going to give it to Zest as an award or something.
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On September 26 2020 15:21 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 15:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Vipers would be excellent for DRG.
edit: Oh really nice timing from Zest. even with vipers drg is still not on dark level yet ;O
If he'd had the vipers ready he would have smashed this. But Zest knew exactly when to attack.
On September 26 2020 15:23 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 15:21 NoS-Craig wrote: I feel Zerg needs mutas or something. Disruptors just unstoppable looking at the moment. its a very strong against roach ravager but i am not sure against ling bane tho
Well that's why colossus exist.
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Ah yes, getting hive and you're still on roach/ravager against stalker/immortal/disruptor. DRG deserved to lose there.
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On September 26 2020 15:24 WTCO wrote: Ah yes, getting hive and you're still on roach/ravager against stalker/immortal/disruptor. DRG deserved to lose there.
He might have thought that he could get the vipers up before there were enough disruptors. It's not awful even if it didn't work out for him.
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On September 26 2020 15:23 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 15:21 seemsgood wrote:On September 26 2020 15:19 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Vipers would be excellent for DRG.
edit: Oh really nice timing from Zest. even with vipers drg is still not on dark level yet ;O If he'd had the vipers ready he would have smashed this. But Zest knew exactly when to attack. Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 15:23 seemsgood wrote:On September 26 2020 15:21 NoS-Craig wrote: I feel Zerg needs mutas or something. Disruptors just unstoppable looking at the moment. its a very strong against roach ravager but i am not sure against ling bane tho Well that's why colossus exist. well its his fault for taking too much big reaver hits unnecessarily
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Huh. It's a 4-rax where you bring 4 SCVs. I'm not sure if I've seen that one anytime recently--usually you build the fourth rax with the same SCV that built the first.
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On September 26 2020 15:34 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Huh. It's a 4-rax where you bring 4 SCVs. I'm not sure if I've seen that one anytime recently--usually you build the fourth rax with the same SCV that built the first. while its not OP as 2 rax ,still matters not if zerg doesnt drone scouting : ]
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OMFG that overlord game 1.
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I think Cure used my build lol. SC2 ladder gonna be fun this week. :D
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Cure's just proxied more barracks than were seen in the entire Dreamhack season finals.
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You know, I was going to start try laddering again...
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So this group is 90% cheese?
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On September 26 2020 15:40 The_Templar wrote: You know, I was going to start try laddering again...
You could try cheesing every game. It's very efficient--you get more games practiced per hour.
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lol nice catch by the marines. I wonder if he'll still go over and mine out the back of Cures base anyway.
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solar is going to lose. cant beat terran like this
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Solar's the perennial Ro16 player. He often has the skills to make the Ro8, but then almost always falls short.
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well i think he lasted much longer than last last season tho ;o solar in ss1 just was like... dude got birthday party and diarrhea at the damn time ....
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Alright DRG lets do this. Give me my much needed 2-0 for my LB. My LB rank at the end of last season was shite house.
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Must be annoying for Solar to never get past the RO16 despite inferior players always making it in second place of group A.
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On September 26 2020 15:53 Morbidius wrote: Must be annoying for Solar to never get past the RO16 despite inferior players always making it in second place of group A.
solar got past the ro16 2 or 3 years ago iirc
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soO: you can drink and smoke but don't do zerg
did one of the zerg players just call his own race imba
lololol
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This "praise your own race" interview thing is so unintentionally hilarious.
Best *real* T responses: Bomber, Byun P: Parting ("Pervert"), Stats, actually lots Z: Solar, DRG, Dark (lol the cute side, repeated by soO)
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On September 26 2020 15:56 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 15:53 Morbidius wrote: Must be annoying for Solar to never get past the RO16 despite inferior players always making it in second place of group A. solar got past the ro16 2 or 3 years ago iirc In LotV Solar has 7 Ro32 eliminations, 6 Ro16 eliminations, 1 Ro8 elimination. Much better weekender results and also did way better in SSL than GSL.
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On September 26 2020 16:07 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 15:56 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 15:53 Morbidius wrote: Must be annoying for Solar to never get past the RO16 despite inferior players always making it in second place of group A. solar got past the ro16 2 or 3 years ago iirc In LotV Solar has 7 Ro32 eliminations, 6 Ro16 eliminations, 1 Ro8 elimination. Much better weekender results and also did way better in SSL than GSL.
true that
i just assumed he was saying he literally never got past ro 17
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That was a widow mine if I've ever seen one
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And ......... the monitor extra screen is falling off. What a strange way to start the series.
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My LB :-( come on DRG you can do it.
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This is basically how souL's games go.
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Terrans slowly realising that Mines are just... ranged version of Banelings...
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LOL right before 2-2 finishes. Hell yer DRG lets go.
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Cure needs to decide what he wants to do
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On September 26 2020 16:15 Elentos wrote: Cure needs to decide what he wants to do still no ghosts so all dude can do is hoping drg fucks up with ultra into lose ;O
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He could have at least focused down the hatch with the marauders before he runs away tbh
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Cure ca. April/May would have never lost this game from the advantage he had.
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We'll be entering Fantasy GG timing zone soon.
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skipped the cure solar series, come in to see drg 35 drones up and with a muta flock. life is good
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Mexico2169 Posts
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idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt
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Zerg grew too big to fail
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On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt And yet DRG was never meant to win that game and Cure really enabled him to. If he cleans up his play he can beat DRG just fine.
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On September 26 2020 16:24 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt And yet DRG was never meant to win that game and Cure really enabled him to.
yea cure seems a bit slow tonight, but idk why he'd pick drg lol
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On September 26 2020 16:25 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:24 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt And yet DRG was never meant to win that game and Cure really enabled him to. yea cure seems a bit slow tonight, but idk why he'd pick drg lol Well he didn't have great options. He wanted a Terran but the only Terran left was Maru so he went to pick a Zerg. Didn't want Dark obviously and nobody even considered touching Armani and Zoun because of the 1st seed swap. Between DRG and Solar I don't think you're inherently wrong if you pick DRG (especially if you still get Solar anyway).
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You're not supposed to fall this far behind in upgrades vs LBM every game either.
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"there are some firebats." Gee I wonder if Artosis has been playing a lot of SC1 recently?
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On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt Pretty sure it was the other way around, serral said he was a JD fan, he never cared for DRG
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DRG has been doing well in this series obviously but Cure seems very very off.
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On September 26 2020 16:34 Elentos wrote: DRG has been doing well in this series obviously but Cure seems very very off. he doesn't seem great no
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On September 26 2020 16:31 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:25 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 16:24 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt And yet DRG was never meant to win that game and Cure really enabled him to. yea cure seems a bit slow tonight, but idk why he'd pick drg lol Well he didn't have great options. He wanted a Terran but the only Terran left was Maru so he went to pick a Zerg. Didn't want Dark obviously and nobody even considered touching Armani and Zoun because of the 1st seed swap. Between DRG and Solar I don't think you're inherently wrong if you pick DRG (especially if you still get Solar anyway).
i honestly think solar woouldve been better pick for him.
i also dont understand why basically a terran horseman is afraid of protoss. parting is annoying to play but i think beatable for cure
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This creep spread is damn satisfying
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this creep spread is disgusting
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I do wish DRG would start to get more gas though
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diukure finally attemped to play late game ; ]
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On September 26 2020 16:35 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:31 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:25 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 16:24 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt And yet DRG was never meant to win that game and Cure really enabled him to. yea cure seems a bit slow tonight, but idk why he'd pick drg lol Well he didn't have great options. He wanted a Terran but the only Terran left was Maru so he went to pick a Zerg. Didn't want Dark obviously and nobody even considered touching Armani and Zoun because of the 1st seed swap. Between DRG and Solar I don't think you're inherently wrong if you pick DRG (especially if you still get Solar anyway). i honestly think solar woouldve been better pick for him. i also dont understand why basically a terran horseman is afraid of protoss. parting is annoying to play but i think beatable for cure No Terran in GSL is actually confident against Protoss because late game is basically not an option at all and the alternative to late game is not exactly solid.
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On September 26 2020 16:37 Cricketer12 wrote: I do wish DRG would start to get more gas though
Yeah. Without gases 8,9,10 he can't instantly turn his 150 zergling remax into banelings.
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PAAAAAARK SOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO
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drg got carried by his outstanding ZvT again :Oo
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On September 26 2020 16:38 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:37 Cricketer12 wrote: I do wish DRG would start to get more gas though Yeah. Without gases 8,9,10 he can't instantly turn his 150 zergling remax into banelings. Exactly, it's quite sad
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Dude DRG has a terran in ro8. Semis here we go!
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DRG, the destroyer of Terrans in ZvT. Damn he just smack Cure holy shit. Felt like Cure was so below DRG that game.
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On September 26 2020 16:38 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:35 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 16:31 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:25 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 16:24 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt And yet DRG was never meant to win that game and Cure really enabled him to. yea cure seems a bit slow tonight, but idk why he'd pick drg lol Well he didn't have great options. He wanted a Terran but the only Terran left was Maru so he went to pick a Zerg. Didn't want Dark obviously and nobody even considered touching Armani and Zoun because of the 1st seed swap. Between DRG and Solar I don't think you're inherently wrong if you pick DRG (especially if you still get Solar anyway). i honestly think solar woouldve been better pick for him. i also dont understand why basically a terran horseman is afraid of protoss. parting is annoying to play but i think beatable for cure No Terran in GSL is actually confident against Protoss because late game is basically not an option at all and the alternative to late game is not exactly solid. except tae yang caster until zoun totally brought him back to earth ;ooo
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Painful series for Cure, jesus christ.
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DRG will probably get into the semis, I don't see TY beating him unless he cheeses like every game
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I think TY can beast DRG though. I'm going to pick TY to advance to the Ro.4
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Who makes it out of C and D?
Stats Parting Inno Dark imo
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I assume the Ro8 will be on the new map pool. That should be good for TY.
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Mexico2169 Posts
DRG never went below 180 supply nice.
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On September 26 2020 16:42 Cricketer12 wrote: Who makes it out of C and D?
Stats Parting Inno Dark imo dark is sure as fuck tho
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On September 26 2020 16:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I assume the Ro8 will be on the new map pool. That should be good for TY. Yeah that's pretty massive
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On September 26 2020 16:38 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:35 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 16:31 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:25 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 16:24 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt And yet DRG was never meant to win that game and Cure really enabled him to. yea cure seems a bit slow tonight, but idk why he'd pick drg lol Well he didn't have great options. He wanted a Terran but the only Terran left was Maru so he went to pick a Zerg. Didn't want Dark obviously and nobody even considered touching Armani and Zoun because of the 1st seed swap. Between DRG and Solar I don't think you're inherently wrong if you pick DRG (especially if you still get Solar anyway). i honestly think solar woouldve been better pick for him. i also dont understand why basically a terran horseman is afraid of protoss. parting is annoying to play but i think beatable for cure No Terran in GSL is actually confident against Protoss because late game is basically not an option at all and the alternative to late game is not exactly solid.
but why choose drg over solar or cowboy protoss players like parting and zest...
idk just seems weird to me, since drg has been killing zvt lately
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On September 26 2020 16:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I assume the Ro8 will be on the new map pool. That should be good for TY.
?? next map pool is more zerg favored than the current one
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On September 26 2020 16:45 Mlord wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I assume the Ro8 will be on the new map pool. That should be good for TY. ?? next map pool is more zerg favored than the current one YO GET HYPE
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On September 26 2020 16:45 BerserkSword wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:38 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:35 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 16:31 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:25 BerserkSword wrote:On September 26 2020 16:24 Elentos wrote:On September 26 2020 16:23 BerserkSword wrote: idk why cure picked this cat
serral himself said he learned from drg's zvt And yet DRG was never meant to win that game and Cure really enabled him to. yea cure seems a bit slow tonight, but idk why he'd pick drg lol Well he didn't have great options. He wanted a Terran but the only Terran left was Maru so he went to pick a Zerg. Didn't want Dark obviously and nobody even considered touching Armani and Zoun because of the 1st seed swap. Between DRG and Solar I don't think you're inherently wrong if you pick DRG (especially if you still get Solar anyway). i honestly think solar woouldve been better pick for him. i also dont understand why basically a terran horseman is afraid of protoss. parting is annoying to play but i think beatable for cure No Terran in GSL is actually confident against Protoss because late game is basically not an option at all and the alternative to late game is not exactly solid. but why choose drg over solar or cowboy protoss players like parting and zest... idk just seems weird to me, since drg has been killing zvt lately He's on a team with PartinG, who on that skill level does he practice with if he chooses him? Also Zest eliminated him last season.
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Today cure finally suceeded in ending all the undeserved hype he had.
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On September 26 2020 16:46 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:45 Mlord wrote:On September 26 2020 16:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I assume the Ro8 will be on the new map pool. That should be good for TY. ?? next map pool is more zerg favored than the current one YO GET HYPE luckily no blizzcon this year so we dont get to watch another ZvZ final : ]]
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On September 26 2020 16:45 Mlord wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:43 ZigguratOfUr wrote: I assume the Ro8 will be on the new map pool. That should be good for TY. ?? next map pool is more zerg favored than the current one
Is it though?
In TvZ Ever Dream and especially Ice and Chrome were good for zerg. Eternal Empire was fine for Terran but still macro. Golden Wall is good for terran but tricky.
Meanwhile for the new maps, Oxide's a rush map with a good siege spot against the third, Lightshade's Simulacrum with a very short rush distance. Jagannatha and Romanticide are harder to place, but still less macro than I&C or EE.
At the very least I don't think next map pool's as good for Zerg if your strategy involves building 90+ drones.
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Liquibets are safe. Eat it nerds!
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Russian Federation40169 Posts
Got a blackout, came back to watch the VOD.
Ouch, the amount of storm baths DRG took in that deathaura game was brutal. That said, ain't 2/3 stargate void ray into chargelot archon a build sOs did in early HotS?
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Dang, I missed the Zest fiesta clown show! Which games to watch?
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Watch. Game 2 of both his series. Game 3s were okay. Both game 1s were Zest dying to lings at the very start.
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Russian Federation40169 Posts
On September 26 2020 18:03 RKC wrote: Dang, I missed the Zest fiesta clown show! Which games to watch? Every game is hilarious, whether it is old sOs build from 2013, dying to ling flood or the gateway push into disruptor push.
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Hm watched the zvps and the zergs seem to need to figure Out how to play vs some of the stuff protoss is doing rn, felt Like DRG and Solar both did some pretty questionable moves.
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Game 2's Zest vs Solar was beautiful to watch.
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I had Cure and DRG getting out. Didn’t think Cure would be the one that didn’t
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I’m getting playback errors when trying to watch the matches on YouTube
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On September 26 2020 16:44 seemsgood wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2020 16:42 Cricketer12 wrote: Who makes it out of C and D?
Stats Parting Inno Dark imo dark is sure as fuck tho
Dark and Rogue are heavy favorites vs. Stats, but I like Rogue's ZvZ and Inno's TvZ.
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Guys after reading some comments, I realized maybe protoss have not won a championship in a long time because terran are slacking at killing zerg xD
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Czech Republic12116 Posts
Isn't DRG the person selected by Cure? Cure must be pretty salty right now
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DRG!!!!!!!!!! i thought Solar was going to win vs Zest but well, its nice to have DRG in the ro8 thats enough for me xD
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On September 27 2020 08:08 Topin wrote:DRG!!!!!!!!!! i thought Solar was going to win vs Zest but well, its nice to have DRG in the ro8 thats enough for me xD
This is really random, but I remember wayyy back in the day I was at MLG Raleigh, saw DRG in the flesh, and yelled "DRG Fighting!!" and he looked at me like I was an idiot. Still a great memory :D
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On September 27 2020 21:20 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2020 08:08 Topin wrote:DRG!!!!!!!!!! i thought Solar was going to win vs Zest but well, its nice to have DRG in the ro8 thats enough for me xD This is really random, but I remember wayyy back in the day I was at MLG Raleigh, saw DRG in the flesh, and yelled "DRG Fighting!!" and he looked at me like I was an idiot. Still a great memory :D
I met him (among a lot of other pros) back at MLG Anaheim 2012. I shook his hand said I was a fan and he just smiled and bowed like most of the other Koreans and said thank you.
He signed the back of my brother's Keyboard also.
He did strike me as a little shy but most of the Koreans did, I don't blame them. They're in a gigantic convention hall surrounded by a bunch of loud foreign fans in a different country. But if you were polite to them they were always very polite back.
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