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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:58 AttackZerg wrote: This is how a scene dies. People who do nothing and never have, bully and mistreat people that do contribute. Happened in bw as well. Assholes have been tolerated too long. This | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7701 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:57 feardragon wrote: I said it multile times that Clem is a fantastic player. But it’s hard to be “ranked” up with Serral and Reynor without having won a premier tournament. He’s absolutely still competitive with them but in terms of ranking he’s still missing that. Dude, you made an off the cuff comment from the imaginary perspective of Reynor. You did nothing wrong. | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16129 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:58 AttackZerg wrote: This is how a scene dies. People who do nothing and never have, bully and mistreat people that do contribute. Happened in bw as well. Assholes have been tolerated too long. Oh bullshit, don't give us that. People are critical because they care. Do you know when a scene actually dies? When no one cares enough to point out when a performance is sub par. Apathy is the killer. Criticism is the result of passion. Learn the difference. | ||
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Swisslink
2958 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:55 WardiTV wrote: Nothing really, I just want to be able to finish a day of work and not feel like shit that I let people down and that I'm taking up peoples space that could do a better job than me. Saviour of sc2 and esports =/= good caster, people are also very clear about that when they always say "I respect what he does, but I can't stand his casting because xyz." Yeah I do a lot of cool tournaments and stuff but at the end of the day I don't stand up to the other casters in the scene. Personally, I just wouldn't take the criticism personally. People tend to be more vocal about what they dislike than what they like. The people that wholeheartetly hate something mention this all over the place, while people that appreciate what you're doing keep quite and enjoy the cast. I don't think you are singled out here, to be brutally honest. I would argue most casters are confronted with a lot of flaming. I understand that it's frustrating. I just don't think this is ever going to change, unfortunately. | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
Prediction: Reynor 4-2. | ||
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Lexender
Mexico2665 Posts
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greenturtle23
86 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:50 WardiTV wrote: I mean, I say stuff like that a lot on my own stream, but then I get flamed and told to never cast again because how dare I be the one to deem somebody played badly. Kind of puts you off. Honestly kind of done with reading feedback and chat etc, my mentality isn't good again for it lately and I honestly think I might have to take a step back from casting for a while because of it. I know it's a vocal minority and you can't please everyone etc but it just feels impossible to be happy with what I do lately, maybe better to just let the better casters take my place until I'm actually ready to do a proper job of it t-t I like your casting and commentary Wardi. | ||
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Calliope
297 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:57 feardragon wrote: I said it multile times that Clem is a fantastic player. But it’s hard to be “ranked” up with Serral and Reynor without having won a premier tournament. He’s absolutely still competitive with them but in terms of ranking he’s still missing that. Has any foreign terran won a premier tournament in 3 years? You have to look at context too. Why put someone down in this unnecessary manner when he recently beat both Reynor and Serral. | ||
Waxangel
United States33714 Posts
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Wardi
England898 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:58 Argonauta wrote: I dont know, I feel you have a lot of great "good caster comments" too, look at this thread. 1 bad 5 good. Maybe dont put so much weigth onto them?, Im sad you feel shitty after your workday but maybe its not the fault of the criticism but other factors? If its that then yes, Stop reading them. TL is always nice to me tbh, just venting from some stuff I read elsewhere mostly | ||
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
And wardii is a fucking awesome caster also | ||
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stilt
France2755 Posts
Around 4 years with Thorzain winning the dh now ? | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
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AttackZerg
United States7701 Posts
On September 21 2020 02:00 Vindicare605 wrote: Oh bullshit, don't give us that. People are critical because they care. Do you know when a scene actually dies? When no one cares enough to point out when a performance is sub par. Apathy is the killer. Criticism is the result of passion. Learn the difference. Bullshit - that is just an excuse for a bunch of people to be over critical over nothing. All the time, maybe not you. You are taking the perspective of "all the assholes he is referring to are constructive and caring" Really? You really think the constant bitching and negativity is a positive? Speak for yourself, most of the people that are dicks are not "caring so much". They are just trollish assholes. Get real. If you feel attacked by my comments, then either A) you aren't the problem or B) you are the problem. Keep endoring and protecting the assholes in the community. They need it. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9224 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On September 21 2020 01:54 kaykoose wrote: Every match devolving into balance whine on here is annoying. I like to troll in Twitch chat but I expect better from TL.net posters. Haha - I'll admit that I'm guilty of it at times. That said, I think there's a fine line between constructive meta-game critique and low effort spam / whine. It's natural for members of a community who are invested in a eSport to want to improve it, rather than accept what Blizzard gives us point blank. Over the years, there's definitely been periods of imbalance in the metagame, and it was community feedback that helped Blizzard take action. Whether it was the ridiculous rush maps that disproportionately hurt Zerg (remember Steppes of War?), the 1-1-1 build against Protoss in TvP, or BL-infestor during WoL, there's definitely periods where we look back and can see - "yea, that was really imbalanced" I don't envy the mods - not an easy task. And users should strive to be more constructive when posting (and don't hate on the players - they don't control game design). But metagame discussion is expected and natural, and to me a sign of an invested community | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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stilt
France2755 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33714 Posts
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 21 2020 02:05 Weavel wrote: I hope Trap can play at 2am. Dunno what sleep schedules pros use. I think it's alright. I seem to remember his stream being live at times like this. | ||
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