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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
September 20 2020 16:59 GMT
#1501
On September 21 2020 01:58 AttackZerg wrote:
This is how a scene dies. People who do nothing and never have, bully and mistreat people that do contribute.

Happened in bw as well. Assholes have been tolerated too long.

This
Faker is the GOAT!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
September 20 2020 16:59 GMT
#1502
On September 21 2020 01:57 feardragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 01:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I don't understand Feardragon, he keeps bringing Clem down with his commentary, how he is not yet on the Reynor and Serral's level etc... what the heck?

I said it multile times that Clem is a fantastic player. But it’s hard to be “ranked” up with Serral and Reynor without having won a premier tournament. He’s absolutely still competitive with them but in terms of ranking he’s still missing that.


Dude, you made an off the cuff comment from the imaginary perspective of Reynor.

You did nothing wrong.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
September 20 2020 17:00 GMT
#1503
On September 21 2020 01:58 AttackZerg wrote:
This is how a scene dies. People who do nothing and never have, bully and mistreat people that do contribute.

Happened in bw as well. Assholes have been tolerated too long.


Oh bullshit, don't give us that.

People are critical because they care. Do you know when a scene actually dies? When no one cares enough to point out when a performance is sub par.

Apathy is the killer. Criticism is the result of passion. Learn the difference.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
September 20 2020 17:00 GMT
#1504
On September 21 2020 01:55 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 01:52 Argonauta wrote:
On September 21 2020 01:50 WardiTV wrote:
On September 21 2020 01:25 Lexender wrote:
I gotta admit I really dislike how much Wardi tries to be a "good guy" caster.

He just is incapable of saying one player played bad and that's why he lost, its always "the build was good to be this player is such a god that he came back from a position etc etc".

I don't think theres anything wrong with that and its only my opinion but it feels disengenuos sometimes.


I mean, I say stuff like that a lot on my own stream, but then I get flamed and told to never cast again because how dare I be the one to deem somebody played badly. Kind of puts you off.

Honestly kind of done with reading feedback and chat etc, my mentality isn't good again for it lately and I honestly think I might have to take a step back from casting for a while because of it. I know it's a vocal minority and you can't please everyone etc but it just feels impossible to be happy with what I do lately, maybe better to just let the better casters take my place until I'm actually ready to do a proper job of it t-t



What exactly do you want? Because honestly wardiii, you can read a lot of "based god wardii saviour of sc2 and esports" kind of coments around here too.


Nothing really, I just want to be able to finish a day of work and not feel like shit that I let people down and that I'm taking up peoples space that could do a better job than me.

Saviour of sc2 and esports =/= good caster, people are also very clear about that when they always say "I respect what he does, but I can't stand his casting because xyz." Yeah I do a lot of cool tournaments and stuff but at the end of the day I don't stand up to the other casters in the scene.


Personally, I just wouldn't take the criticism personally. People tend to be more vocal about what they dislike than what they like. The people that wholeheartetly hate something mention this all over the place, while people that appreciate what you're doing keep quite and enjoy the cast. I don't think you are singled out here, to be brutally honest. I would argue most casters are confronted with a lot of flaming. I understand that it's frustrating. I just don't think this is ever going to change, unfortunately.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-20 17:01:14
September 20 2020 17:00 GMT
#1505
Let's get some hype for the finals going. ZG & Maynarde are a good duo, looking forward to the cast.

Prediction: Reynor 4-2.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2655 Posts
September 20 2020 17:01 GMT
#1506
Man I really did conjure up a shit storm, damn wasn't my intention, I know he won't read my apology but I really didn't mean to insult him or his work.
greenturtle23
Profile Joined August 2019
86 Posts
September 20 2020 17:01 GMT
#1507
On September 21 2020 01:50 WardiTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 01:25 Lexender wrote:
I gotta admit I really dislike how much Wardi tries to be a "good guy" caster.

He just is incapable of saying one player played bad and that's why he lost, its always "the build was good to be this player is such a god that he came back from a position etc etc".

I don't think theres anything wrong with that and its only my opinion but it feels disengenuos sometimes.


I mean, I say stuff like that a lot on my own stream, but then I get flamed and told to never cast again because how dare I be the one to deem somebody played badly. Kind of puts you off.

Honestly kind of done with reading feedback and chat etc, my mentality isn't good again for it lately and I honestly think I might have to take a step back from casting for a while because of it. I know it's a vocal minority and you can't please everyone etc but it just feels impossible to be happy with what I do lately, maybe better to just let the better casters take my place until I'm actually ready to do a proper job of it t-t


I like your casting and commentary Wardi.
Calliope
Profile Joined July 2018
297 Posts
September 20 2020 17:01 GMT
#1508
On September 21 2020 01:57 feardragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 01:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I don't understand Feardragon, he keeps bringing Clem down with his commentary, how he is not yet on the Reynor and Serral's level etc... what the heck?

I said it multile times that Clem is a fantastic player. But it’s hard to be “ranked” up with Serral and Reynor without having won a premier tournament. He’s absolutely still competitive with them but in terms of ranking he’s still missing that.


Has any foreign terran won a premier tournament in 3 years? You have to look at context too. Why put someone down in this unnecessary manner when he recently beat both Reynor and Serral.
Clément 화이팅
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33527 Posts
September 20 2020 17:02 GMT
#1509
Time to roll those Adept dice
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Wardi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
England897 Posts
September 20 2020 17:03 GMT
#1510
On September 21 2020 01:58 Argonauta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 01:55 WardiTV wrote:
On September 21 2020 01:52 Argonauta wrote:
On September 21 2020 01:50 WardiTV wrote:
On September 21 2020 01:25 Lexender wrote:
I gotta admit I really dislike how much Wardi tries to be a "good guy" caster.

He just is incapable of saying one player played bad and that's why he lost, its always "the build was good to be this player is such a god that he came back from a position etc etc".

I don't think theres anything wrong with that and its only my opinion but it feels disengenuos sometimes.


I mean, I say stuff like that a lot on my own stream, but then I get flamed and told to never cast again because how dare I be the one to deem somebody played badly. Kind of puts you off.

Honestly kind of done with reading feedback and chat etc, my mentality isn't good again for it lately and I honestly think I might have to take a step back from casting for a while because of it. I know it's a vocal minority and you can't please everyone etc but it just feels impossible to be happy with what I do lately, maybe better to just let the better casters take my place until I'm actually ready to do a proper job of it t-t



What exactly do you want? Because honestly wardiii, you can read a lot of "based god wardii saviour of sc2 and esports" kind of coments around here too.


Nothing really, I just want to be able to finish a day of work and not feel like shit that I let people down and that I'm taking up peoples space that could do a better job than me.

Saviour of sc2 and esports =/= good caster, people are also very clear about that when they always say "I respect what he does, but I can't stand his casting because xyz." Yeah I do a lot of cool tournaments and stuff but at the end of the day I don't stand up to the other casters in the scene.



I dont know, I feel you have a lot of great "good caster comments" too, look at this thread. 1 bad 5 good. Maybe dont put so much weigth onto them?, Im sad you feel shitty after your workday but maybe its not the fault of the criticism but other factors? If its that then yes, Stop reading them.


TL is always nice to me tbh, just venting from some stuff I read elsewhere mostly
CommentatorOwner of WardiTV. Streamer, caster & event organizer. / / www.wardi.tv
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4959 Posts
September 20 2020 17:03 GMT
#1511
I honestly think Trap has more chances than casters/TL are giving to him.

And wardii is a fucking awesome caster also

Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
September 20 2020 17:03 GMT
#1512
Before Uthermal, was what the last time a foreign T won a premier tournament ?
Around 4 years with Thorzain winning the dh now ?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
September 20 2020 17:03 GMT
#1513
Surprised the finals aren't brought to us by PiG and Rotti, high level players of the represented races in their own right.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
September 20 2020 17:04 GMT
#1514
On September 21 2020 02:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2020 01:58 AttackZerg wrote:
This is how a scene dies. People who do nothing and never have, bully and mistreat people that do contribute.

Happened in bw as well. Assholes have been tolerated too long.


Oh bullshit, don't give us that.

People are critical because they care. Do you know when a scene actually dies? When no one cares enough to point out when a performance is sub par.

Apathy is the killer. Criticism is the result of passion. Learn the difference.


Bullshit - that is just an excuse for a bunch of people to be over critical over nothing.

All the time, maybe not you.

You are taking the perspective of "all the assholes he is referring to are constructive and caring"

Really? You really think the constant bitching and negativity is a positive?

Speak for yourself, most of the people that are dicks are not "caring so much".
They are just trollish assholes. Get real.

If you feel attacked by my comments, then either A) you aren't the problem or B) you are the problem.

Keep endoring and protecting the assholes in the community. They need it.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
September 20 2020 17:05 GMT
#1515
I hope Trap can play at 2am. Dunno what sleep schedules pros use.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
September 20 2020 17:05 GMT
#1516
On September 21 2020 01:54 kaykoose wrote:
Every match devolving into balance whine on here is annoying. I like to troll in Twitch chat but I expect better from TL.net posters.


Haha - I'll admit that I'm guilty of it at times. That said, I think there's a fine line between constructive meta-game critique and low effort spam / whine. It's natural for members of a community who are invested in a eSport to want to improve it, rather than accept what Blizzard gives us point blank.

Over the years, there's definitely been periods of imbalance in the metagame, and it was community feedback that helped Blizzard take action. Whether it was the ridiculous rush maps that disproportionately hurt Zerg (remember Steppes of War?), the 1-1-1 build against Protoss in TvP, or BL-infestor during WoL, there's definitely periods where we look back and can see - "yea, that was really imbalanced"

I don't envy the mods - not an easy task. And users should strive to be more constructive when posting (and don't hate on the players - they don't control game design). But metagame discussion is expected and natural, and to me a sign of an invested community
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
September 20 2020 17:05 GMT
#1517
How long until someone makes multiple threads shitting on feardragon on r/starcraft? So do those only apply to nathanias?
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2754 Posts
September 20 2020 17:05 GMT
#1518
Reynor is the favorite but he isn't as consistent as Serral in the mu, Trap can do it for sure.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33527 Posts
September 20 2020 17:05 GMT
#1519
How early in the series do you think we see the game where Trap goes "u know what lemme see how late-game plays out" only to learn his lesson and never do it again?
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
September 20 2020 17:05 GMT
#1520
On September 21 2020 02:05 Weavel wrote:
I hope Trap can play at 2am. Dunno what sleep schedules pros use.

I think it's alright. I seem to remember his stream being live at times like this.
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